Mechwarriors who canonincally owned more than one mech at the same time

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I was just thinking about this while playing Mechwarrior 5, given how many different mechs I have in the game for different mission types.

Given that a single mech is usually a luxury, how many instances are there of mechwarriors who were confirmed to have owned more than one mech at the same time (and not just borrowed or otherwise ended up in a different mech from time to time, and also no rumors like Gray Noton's allegedly having more than one Rifleman).

Off the top of my head, I remember that according to the fluff in TRO 3060, Hohiro Kurita was gifted a Tai-Sho by the manufacturer at the same time he was still piloting his Daishi.  And in In The Shadow of the Dragon, Yori Kurita had both a Tenshi and a BattleMaster that had been Takashi Kurita's.  Any others?

[Church14]

Was Gray Noton owning two riflemans - one for low risk fights/inspections and one that's 'special' - canon or a fan theory?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Bounty Hunter comes to mind. For instance, in his Dossier he was in his Marauder II in January of 3068 and his Mad Cat in June of that year.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Was Gray Noton owning two riflemans - one for low risk fights/inspections and one that's 'special' - canon or a fan theory?

It's a rumor.  It's never been proven in canon that he had more than one mech.

The Bounty Hunter comes to mind. For instance, in his Dossier he was in his Marauder II in January of 3068 and his Mad Cat in June of that year.

The Bounty Hunter is kind of an oddball because their identity is intentionally obscured most of the time.  Was it the same person both times, that was right about the point when the identity switched characters.

[glitterboy2098]

Was Gray Noton owning two riflemans - one for low risk fights/inspections and one that's 'special' - canon or a fan theory?

fan theory. the only canon material supports the idea he had only one mech, a RFL-3N.

[Metallgewitter]

Danai comes to mind. She owns Yen-Lo-Wang, but now she pilots and owns a Black Knight

And for mercenaries you might argue that sometimes the unit commander is also the owner of several Mechs (or has legal ownership at the very least). Like in Gray Death Rising: Ronan Carlyle and his sister both have two Mechs in that book: Ronan first pilots a Gargoyle before switching to a revamped Marauder (his grandfather's that is) and his sister pilots a Hatchetman but at the end of the book has a Shadow Hawk. So you could argue they still own their first Mech but hand them to another trusted pilot without relinquishing ownership on paper

[Alan Grant]

Sarah Heart-Rose of the Black Heart Roses mercenary unit is described in FM: Supplemental II as a collector of BattleMechs. It says she renovated a Javelin pulled from a scrap heap and renovated it at age 15, then later an Assassin at age 18, then later acquired her "current' mech a Black Knight. When she inherited her father's mercenary command it says her collection grew considerably.

Her unit, a full battalion of functional combat capable 'mechs, has another battalion's worth of 'mechs in various states of repair. It also says her unit has Adam Steiner's Axman, and Grey Noton's "Legend Killer" Rifleman. A Victor sold for scrap by Katherine Steiner-Davion, an antique Striker and a couple rare Spartans.

The unit is better known for collecting 'mechs than anything. Painting them up in the colors of various famous units. The unit even sold their only dropship, a Union, to supply the funds to buy more 'mechs. The unit has built up enough technical support to maintain a regiment's worth. At one point they tried to acquire Morgan Kell's Archer from the Kell Hounds as part of negotiations for a contract, but the Hounds refused.

This definitely toes the line between an individual person and a mercenary unit. But it does sound like it started as a person, before she inherited her father's command she had two 'mechs of her own that she renovated or acquired on her own by the time she was 18.

[Metallgewitter]

Speaking of Mercenaries: the unit salvages Mechs or buys new Mechs (or junk from House scrapyards). I would say those Mechs are usually property of the unit, not of the pilot that pilots the Mech. Said pilot might buy the MEch or earn the ownership over time but I would argue the main holder of the property rights is usually the unit (or rather the unit's commander). And speaking of games just think of TBS Battletech: your character starts with a Blackjack, switches to a Centurion and later a Highlander. Heck you probably carry enough Mech parts for an entire regiment with you by the end of the game

[Crimson Dynamo]

Was it the same person both times, that was right about the point when the identity switched characters.

Pretty sure it's the same guy. The Dossier lists both 'Mechs under "Vic Travers."

[phoenixalpha]

It maybe written into a mercenary contracts that whilst salvage is lumped together as a unit, each warrior might have "dibs" on certain bits of salvage all things being equal and that might be open to negotiation with the quartermaster (if the merc unit has one).

It would encourage mercs to hone their skills to take out an opponent with the least amount of damage possible so they can lay claim to a better share

[Hellraiser]

Jerimiah Rose.

Owned his Charger-3K, then captured & Owned a Warhawk-Prime,  let one of his dispossessed new hires pilot the Charger.


As for Noton, it's not really fan theory when you have his own thoughts saying he was getting the 2nd mech "ready".
Widely known? No.     But his thoughts are canon.

Not to mention we have the mech stats now w/ all the Positive Quirks but none of that was seen in Justin's view of the mech being "Normal".

[BrianDavion]

Max Liao, per Legends II he owned the Marauder CounterBalace, and was gifted a Vindicator he gave to Canadac.

I think truthfully it's a safe bet that very house lord owns multiple battlemechs.

[Starfury]

Every Clan Mechwarrior, technically

Paul Masters, the first commander of the Knights of the Inner Sphere on Huntress and later on

He had an Anvil, then a Nobori Nin, and then went back to his modified 3M Phoenix Hawk.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Every Clan Mechwarrior, technically

No, Clan mechwarriors don't own their equipment, it's all owned by the Clan.  Therefore the Clans don't count, which is why I put this thread in the Inner Sphere forum.

[Metallgewitter]

That is true. In Paths of Glory Mechwarrior Zane lost his Jenner IIC in a training match against the Combine and he actually shudders on the IS practice of being disowned when your Mech gets destroyed.

Maybe Justin allard would fit. Pilots a Blackjack during a camapign against the Confederation, then a Valkyrie at the Kittery Training battalion, then first a Vindicator, then his trademark Centurion and the Legendkiller Rifleman from Grey Noton on Solaris. Though technically he only kept the Centurion until he gave it to Kai

Maybe Julian Davion would also fit. After his talks with Delin Stone he pilots a Mangonel while still owning his Templar III. And when his Templar gets destroyed on New Syrtis he later switches briefly to a Malice. Though I think right now he pilots a Marauder 2 right?

 

[Hellraiser]

Maybe Justin allard would fit. Pilots a Blackjack during a camapign against the Confederation, then a Valkyrie at the Kittery Training battalion, then first a Vindicator, then his trademark Centurion and the Legendkiller Rifleman from Grey Noton on Solaris. Though technically he only kept the Centurion until he gave it to Kai

Those are more changing over the years v/s "same time" as the OP asked for.
As noted, I think only the Centurion was actually "His" on Solaris v/s the Vindicator & Rifleman that were effectively stolen (borrowed).

[Hellraiser]

Paul Masters, the first commander of the Knights of the Inner Sphere on Huntress and later on

He had an Anvil, then a Nobori Nin, and then went back to his modified 3M Phoenix Hawk.

Hmm, I'm not familiar with his whole history but it makes me wondering if some of those were "Borrowed/Appropriated" for certain missions v/s "Owned".

I'm thinking in the Clan Era a lot of "Mechwarrior Families" might get "Issued" mechs from the "DoD" for use & their old SW era family heirloom put in storage or passed down to a lower ranked family member.

"Dear Sir Thomas,  Please accept this new "loaner" Gunslinger-1ERD fresh off the assembly lines for use in your service the the Federated Commonwealth, your family's 250 year old Centurion-9A with the finicky autocannon that jams 8% of the time & the random hip actuator electrical glitch no longer meets the needs of the Davion Heavy Guards at this time."

[Natasha Kerensky]

Victor S-D?  A Victor and the Dire Wolf Prometheus, IIRC?

[phoenixalpha]

I'm thinking in the Clan Era a lot of "Mechwarrior Families" might get "Issued" mechs from the "DoD" for use & their old SW era family heirloom put in storage or passed down to a lower ranked family member.

Wasn't just the Clan era. Happened pre 4th SW, when Minobu Tetsuhara was assigned a Dragon by the DCMS and the family Panther was passed to his younger brother.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Victor S-D?  A Victor and the Dire Wolf Prometheus, IIRC?

IIRC, his Victor was destroyed by the Falcons prior to him getting Prometheus.  And he never piloted another mech while he had Prometheus.

[Metallgewitter]

IIRC, his Victor was destroyed by the Falcons prior to him getting Prometheus.  And he never piloted another mech while he had Prometheus.

No, Victor's Mech survived both the battle on Trellwan and Twycross. And after that he was gifted his a Dire Wolf on Outreach which he used ever since. My theory would be he stored his Victor on New Avalon and Katherine sold that Mech when she took over. There is a note for the Blackheart Roses mercenary unit where it states it owns a Victor that was sold for scrap by Katherine Steiner-Davion. My Guess would be she sold Victor's old Mech.

In theory Kai also owned at least two different Mechs: his trademark Centurion but also a Penetrator he first used on Solaris 7 in the grudge match against Vandergriff and Edenhoffer and he also used it during Operation Bulldog.

[glitterboy2098]

As for Noton, it's not really fan theory when you have his own thoughts saying he was getting the 2nd mech "ready".
Widely known? No.     But his thoughts are canon

The MWO 'legendaries' fictions aren't canon though. Randall Bills, who write them, did when he was in charge, but they were never officially recognized by CGL, and once Randal stepped down they were decanonized because of how badly they screwed up the tech timelines.

Sadly parts of Sarna.net hasn't been updated in a long time.

[Hellraiser]

IIRC, his Victor was destroyed by the Falcons prior to him getting Prometheus.  And he never piloted another mech while he had Prometheus.

Destroyed?   I don't recall him ejecting on Trellwan
I'm assuming either it was on board the DS when they evacuated or it got left behind.
He had to pilot something at the 2nd Battle of Twycross didn't he?

Isn't there some fluff about Katie selling it off to a Merc unit or something?   (Or is that another famous mech?)
But as mentioned up thread, I can't imagine most House Lords can't call on 2 mechs as "owned".
Hohiro is the only one I can think of that actively seemed to flip between them based on his Op:Bulldog/Great Refusal fluff among other stuff.

[Hellraiser]

The MWO 'legendaries' fictions aren't canon though. Randall Bills, who write them, did when he was in charge, but they were never officially recognized by CGL, and once Randal stepped down they were decanonized because of how badly they screwed up the tech timelines.

Sadly parts of Sarna.net hasn't been updated in a long time.

I'm not sure where I read the Noton fluff but I never played MWO so not sure how I would have seen it there.

[Hellraiser]

Wasn't just the Clan era. Happened pre 4th SW, when Minobu Tetsuhara was assigned a Dragon by the DCMS and the family Panther was passed to his younger brother.

Good point & a solid example too.
Can't have a "Liason Officer" to such a prestigious unit running around in the DMCS version of a "Light-Sherman".   
A proper "Heavy" must be assigned for show.  Even if it is also the "Sherman" of DMCS Heavies.

[glitterboy2098]

I'm not sure where I read the Noton fluff but I never played MWO so not sure how I would have seen it there.

it got shared around a lot outside of MWO circles, and that is the only source from Noton's own perspective where he even hints at having 2 mechs. it also gets mentioned on Sarna. it was a short fiction bit as part of the introduction of the Legend Killer named unique mech in MWO. which was an absurdly high tech custom.


more on topic:
Theodore Kurita had at least two mechs early in his career. he'd been given(assigned?) a DRG-1N Dragon by his father on graduation from the military academy and start of his DCMS career, then was gifted an ON-1K built from the chassis of General Kerensky's personal mech by his Aunt Florimel. Theodore pilots "revenant" until the 4th succession war, where he has to use it as a decoy during a strategic maneuver. with one of his battalion commanders piloting the orion while Theodore left for another world. he's later seen piloting a Victor (presumably, the mech of the other officer). there is no indication that he ever got rid of the Dragon however. (given that Hohiro piloted a grand dragon before earning the Dire Wolf, i liek to think that Theodore had his old dragon refit into the more powerful variant, and gifted it to his heir)
i'm not counting the command console equipped battlemaster he's seen in during the war of 3039, mostly because i don't think that was 'his', i think it was just his ride. given it was a double rarity at the time, with command console and DHS, part of the gifts Comstar gave the DCMS, i suspect it wasn't owned by any individual.

[Hellraiser]

i'm not counting the command console equipped battlemaster he's seen in during the war of 3039, mostly because i don't think that was 'his', i think it was just his ride. given it was a double rarity at the time, with command console and DHS, part of the gifts Comstar gave the DCMS, i suspect it wasn't owned by any individual.

I call that "appropriation of spoils".   Or, House Lord Privileges (Heir).

[phoenixalpha]

Yeah I'm sure that above a certain level of nobility, or wealth, every mech you want is "yours". :)

[Starfury]

Oh the new leader of the GDL, Ronan comes to mind. He had a Gargoyle that he then gave up to another Mechwarrior after receiving Grayson's refitted Marauder from his parents (which I believe is supposed to be an 11D).

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

It's not stated precisely, but the weapon loadout matches the 11D.  The Man O' War was never specifically identified as his personal mech, only the mech that he was piloting.  I think that's what happens in a lot of cases when the mech isn't specifically identified as belonging to the pilot- it's the unit's mech and they're just the one piloting it at the time.