Anti-combined-arms-Orion ON-2PP

[Sabelkatten]

Inspired by Crimson Dawn's ON2-AM. I wanted to fit an LB10 for extra critseeking and flak bonus. It cost some durability and one ERML, but I think it works.

(Note: Tourney legal rules, no CASEII. The A-pod is just for teh lulz. ^-^ )

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Orion ON-2PP

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 13,301,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,837

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  ER PPC
    1  Plasma Rifle
    1  LB 10-X AC
    1  ER Medium Laser
    2  MML-3s
    1  A-Pod
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   114 points                4.00
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 1 LT, 7 RT, 2 LA, 2 LL, 1 RL
Engine:             Light Fusion Engine          300                      14.50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Light Ferro-Fibrous          AV - 228                 13.50
    Armor Locations: 7 RA
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     23           35       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     16           24       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     12           24       
                                             L/R Leg     16           31       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER PPC                                       RT        15        3         7.00
LB 10-X AC                                   LT        2         6        11.00
Plasma Rifle                                 RA        10        2         6.00
2 MML-3s                                     LA        4         4         3.00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
A-Pod                                        RL        0         1         0.50
@Plasma Rifle (20)                           CT        -         2         2.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      LT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         LT        -         1         1.00
@MML-3 (LRM) (40)                            LA        -         1         1.00
@MML-3 (SRM) (33)                            LA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      8    Points: 18
4          3       3       2       0      3     1   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 1/1/1

[Hptm. Streiger]

Somehow the placement of the weapons isn't sound.
the only thing it has in comon with the Orion is the ballistic in the side torso and this is even the wrong side.

weapon composition is ok - but maybe a single larger MML and the K2ination of the LRM

[Sabelkatten]

The idea was that the MMLs sit in the SRM position, the AC in the LRM position (to keep all the ammo on the same side), PPC in the old AC position, PR in the RA ML position.

Of course I could drop the A-pod for a second CASE and switch the AC/PPC positions.

[Cavgunner]

Not a bad design, but I agree with Streiger, this doesn't really hearken back to the Orion.

[fallen]

I like the 'Mech.  It can fight at all ranges, against many types of targets.  If you like the BattleMech as it is, keep it that way.  It's your design.

"Slavish adherence to formal ritual is a sign that one has nothing better to think about."
-Some quote I read in a Battletech novel years ago-

[Hptm. Streiger]

I like the 'Mech.  It can fight at all ranges, against many types of targets.  If you like the BattleMech as it is, keep it that way.  It's your design.

"Slavish adherence to formal ritual is a sign that one has nothing better to think about."
-Some quote I read in a Battletech novel years ago-

Of course it is Sabelkattens design and he did consider how and where to place stuff, but given the layout it could be a Catapract as well.
I like to have some similarities with the original layout, so I consider most Thunderbolt or Banshee or even the Hauptmann as abnormalities. Heck even the WD Zeus X or the Gargoyle Omnis do not fit my personal guidelines.
So no offense, just personal opinion

[Sabelkatten]

Well, it gets a bit troublesome when you try to fit 3 large guns i the space of one large gun, one small gun, and one missile launcher. Making it a Cataphract makes even less sense (add gun, add missiles, add 5 tons...).

[Hptm. Streiger]

Not so impossible to have a Cataphract with almost the same profile:

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Cataphract CTF-2Xi

Mass: 70 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Dry Cost: 11.618.820 C-Bills
Total Cost: 11.727.820 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1.646

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 280 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  Plasma Rifle
    1  LB 10-X AC
    2  Light PPCs
    1  MML-5
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     107 points                7,00
Engine:             Light Fusion Engine          280                      12,00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             11(22)                    1,00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 206                 11,50
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 3 LT, 2 RT, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0,50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     22           32       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     15           24       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  6         
                                             L/R Arm     11           22       
                                             L/R Leg     15           27       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LB 10-X AC                                   RT        2         6        11,00
Light PPC                                    RT        5         2         3,00
Light PPC                                    LT        5         2         3,00
Plasma Rifle                                 RA        10        2         6,00
MML-5                                        LA        3         3         3,00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      LT        -         1         1,00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         LT        -         1         1,00
@MML-5 (LRM) (24)                            LT        -         1         1,00
@MML-5 (SRM) (20)                            LT        -         1         1,00
@Plasma Rifle (20)                           RA        -         2         2,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 16
4          3       3       2       0      3     1   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 1/1/1


[Sabelkatten]

2xLPPC are not exactly a match for ERPPC+ERML...

[Daryk]

Heck, they're not really replacement for 2 ERMLs...

[kaliban]

Anti-combined-arms? Nothing can stop a swarm of Savannah Masters  :D

[Hptm. Streiger]

Indeed - nothing but an Artillery Cannon.

[Sabelkatten]

An LB10 is at least a tourney-legal attempt... Otherwise it's up to the classics - 2+ elevation and woods! :)

[Daryk]

True, but an LTAC can kill 14 in one blow, if they're clustered tightly enough...

[Sabelkatten]

But if you're not allowed to use experimental tech the LTAC is irrelevant...

Also, I hate the area-effect weapon rules. They are just to silly even for CBT.

[Daryk]

True on the Experimental point... though they are available in 3025, unlike Plasma weapons, MMLs, or ER lasers.