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Cannonshop

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240 engined Drones please.
« on: 04 September 2023, 01:06:47 »
that's your criteria; they need a 240 engine, armor, and a battlefield role, but with a drone control system.

Why a 240? because the 330 million ton space station with 8 million tons of artificial intelligence wants to use the same engine for 'mechs, fighters, and ground vehicles.

Kolossus, you see, has decided to interact with The Creators on a level they seem to understand...
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PuppyLikesLaserPointers

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #1 on: 04 September 2023, 11:47:33 »
Is there any non-canon drone operating system on there? Else we have to use exactly same thing on TO? It is too heavy so I wonder that how much I can add.

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #2 on: 04 September 2023, 13:42:27 »
Battlefield Role: Fire Support

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Rhino Fire Support Tank (Kolossus)

Mass: 80 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 LRM 15
     1 Rocket Launcher 10
     1 Anti-Missile System
     2 Medium Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 4,971,600 C-bills

Type: Rhino Fire Support Tank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 80
Battle Value: 1,468

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    8
Engine                        240 Fusion           17.5
Cruising MP: 3
Flank MP: 5
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  4.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             2.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          295                  16.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   8         71   
     R/L Side               8/8      61/61   
     Rear                    8         41   
     Turret                  8         61   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Rocket Launcher 10                        Front        0.5     
2 Medium Pulse Laser                      Turret       4.0     
2 LRM 15                                  Turret       14.0   
Anti-Missile System                       Turret       0.5     
CASE                                       Body        0.5     
Anti-Missile System Ammo (12)              Body        1.0     
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        6.0     
LRM 15 Ammo (32)                           Body        4.0     
ECM Suite                                  Body        1.5     


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Maingunnery

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #3 on: 05 September 2023, 13:07:38 »
Battlefield Role: Brawler

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Bulldog Medium Tank (Kolossus)

Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 60
Battle Value: 887

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    6
Engine                        240 Fusion           17.5
Cruising MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks:                   14                      4
Control Equipment:                                  3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          170                   9.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   6         40   
     R/L Side               6/6      32/32   
     Rear                    6         31   
     Turret                  6         35   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Light Machine Gun                         Front        0.5     
Light Machine Gun Ammo (100)               Body        0.5     
MML 3 SRM Ammo (33)                        Body        1.0     
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        4.5     
ECM Suite                                  Body        1.5     
MML 3 LRM Ammo (40)                        Body        1.0     
2 MML 3                                   Turret       3.0     
Large X-Pulse Laser                       Turret       7.0     

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #4 on: 06 September 2023, 17:18:09 »
Are 240 XL engine also acceptable?
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Cannonshop

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #5 on: 06 September 2023, 20:05:09 »
Are 240 XL engine also acceptable?
'Yes'

actually, sidebar here, but when you think about it, XL engines are MORE viable in conventional vees (not counting pricetag) than they are in 'mechs  thanks to how crit locations are done.  If you have the budget there's really no reason NOT to use them.  (Likewise, surprisingly, with ASF.)

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #6 on: 06 September 2023, 20:43:00 »
My attempt. Getting a 240 is kind of finicky outside 60/80 ton tanks.

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Springheel Jumptank

Mass: 43 tons
Movement Type: Hover
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 118.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 183.6 kph
Jump Jets: Vehicular Jump Jets
     Jump Capacity: 270 meters
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 Light PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 312X
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 6,350,970 C-bills

Type: Springheel Jumptank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Hover
Tonnage: 43
Battle Value: 1,098

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  4.5
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 11
Flank MP: 17
Jumping MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.5
Lift Equipment:                                     4.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    109                   5.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         24   
     R/L Side               5/5      20/20   
     Rear                    5         20   
     Turret                  5         25   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        3.5     
9 Jump Jet                                 Body        4.5     
Targeting Computer                          BD         2.0     
2 Light PPC                               Turret       6.0     


Liam's Ghost

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #7 on: 06 September 2023, 22:47:45 »
"A" role, huh? Tillamook Innovations considers having only one role to be rookie numbers.

40 ton base design, fourteen tons of pod space, all of which can fit in the turret if need be. Present configurations include a medium tank, a fire support unit, a close support unit, an infantry fighting vehicle, command vehicle, bridge layer, recovery vehicle, and medical response vehicle.

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Galahad UCS (Medium Tank)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 97.2 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     14.0 tons of pod space
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 5,664,750 C-bills

Type: Galahad UCS
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 828

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
MML 7                  Turret       4.5     
PPC                    Turret       7.0     
MML 7 LRM Ammo (17)     Body        1.0     
CASE                    Body        0.5     
MML 7 SRM Ammo (14)     Body        1.0     



Type: Galahad UCS (Fire Support)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 815

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo                    Location    Tonnage   
Extended LRM 15              Turret       12.0   
Extended LRM 15 Ammo (12)     Body        2.0     


Type: Galahad UCS (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 582

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
MML 7                  Turret       4.5     
Small Pulse Laser      Turret       1.0     
MML 7 LRM Ammo (17)     Body        1.0     
CASE                    Body        0.5     
MML 7 SRM Ammo (14)     Body        1.0     
Infantry                Body        6.0     


Type: Galahad UCS (Close Support)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 714

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
ER Small Laser         Turret       0.5     
2 MML 7                Turret       9.0     
MML 7 LRM Ammo (34)     Body        2.0     
CASE                    Body        0.5     
MML 7 SRM Ammo (28)     Body        2.0     


Type: Galahad UCS (Recovery Vehicle)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 440

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo                       Location    Tonnage   
2 Lift Hoist/Arresting Hoist     Rear        6.0     
Cargo                            Body        8.0     



Type: Galahad UCS (Bridge Layer)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 715

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
Bridge Layer            Rear        1.0     
Bridge Layer           Front        1.0     
PPC                    Turret       7.0     
Cargo                   Body        5.0     


Galahad UCS (Command Vehicle)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 97.2 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     8.0 tons of pod space
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 6,348,125 C-bills

Type: Galahad UCS
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 557

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo                            Location    Tonnage   
Angel ECM Suite                       Body        2.0     
Communications Equipment (6 tons)     Body        6.0     
Infantry                              Body        6.0     



Type: Galahad UCS (Medical Response Unit)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 440

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    128                   6.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         29   
     R/L Side               4/4      25/25   
     Rear                    4         20   
     Turret                  4         29   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  3.0

Weapons
and Ammo                      Location    Tonnage   
MASH Equipment (5 theaters)     Body        7.5     
Infantry                        Body        3.0     
Cargo                           Body        3.5     
Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #8 on: 07 September 2023, 01:43:36 »
that's your criteria; they need a 240 engine, armor, and a battlefield role, but with a drone control system.

Why a 240? because the 330 million ton space station with 8 million tons of artificial intelligence wants to use the same engine for 'mechs, fighters, and ground vehicles.

Kolossus, you see, has decided to interact with The Creators on a level they seem to understand...

Well, only drone control, on TO, right? Else any other choice are allowed such as robotic controls?

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #9 on: 07 September 2023, 11:29:19 »
Battlefield Role: IFV

Hetzer (Kolossus) "Drifting Turtle"
Based upon a reinforced Hetzer frame, this drone switches its weaponry to a Snub-PPC and adds four Sponson mounted Magshots.
It also features a more powerful engine and troop space for four Battle Armor suits.
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Drifting Turtle IFV

Mass: 43 tons
Movement Type: Wheeled
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 97.2 kph
Armor: StarSlab/6
Armament:
     4 Magshot
     1 Snub-Nose PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Johnston Q-Band
Targeting & Tracking System: Scantrex Dual Tac
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 4,336,335 C-bills

Type: Drifting Turtle IFV
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Wheeled
Tonnage: 43
Battle Value: 863

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  4.5
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          152                   8.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         46   
     R/L Side               5/5      38/38   
     Rear                    5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
4 Magshot                                Sponson       2.0     
Snub-Nose PPC                             Front        6.0     
Magshot Gauss Rifle Ammo (50)              Body        1.0     
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        3.5     
ECM Suite                                  Body        1.5     
Vehicular Sponson Turret                   Body        0.5     
Infantry                                   Body        4.0     

Features the following design quirks: Narrow/Low Profile
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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #10 on: 07 September 2023, 11:50:10 »
Battlefield Role: Scout


Angry Owl VTOL
Seemingly an Inner Sphere knockoff of the Balac, this VTOL is faster but the larger engine and increased electronics leaves less tonnage for weapons.
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Angry Owl VTOL

Mass: 29 tons
Movement Type: VTOL
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 140.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 216 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 LRM 5
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Xilex-2000
Targeting & Tracking System: N&D Handsfree
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 5,901,967 C-bills

Type: Angry Owl VTOL
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: VTOL
Tonnage: 29
Battle Value: 617

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    3
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 13
Flank MP: 20
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  1.5
Lift Equipment:                                     3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          53                      3

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   3         17   
     R/L Side               3/3      12/12   
     Rear                    3         10   
     Rotor                   3         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                       Location    Tonnage   
2 LRM 5                         Front        4.0     
Recon Camera                    Rotor        0.5     
Mast Mount                      Rotor        0.5     
LRM 5 Ammo (24)                  Body        1.0     
Angel ECM Suite                  Body        2.0     
Smart Robotic Control System     Body        1.5     
   
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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #11 on: 07 September 2023, 12:13:24 »
Well, only drone control, on TO, right? Else any other choice are allowed such as robotic controls?

robotic control is allowed.  The idea is simply that the vehicle be unmanned, has usful capabilities, and run a 240 engine.
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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #12 on: 07 September 2023, 12:18:05 »
Battlefield Role: Skirmisher

Regulator-D Hovertank
Drone version of the regulator that has been slightly downsized in order to mount a 240-rated engine.
It is faster than the original design and is armed with a Plasma Rifle.
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Regulator-D Hovertank (Kolossus)

Mass: 43 tons
Movement Type: Hover
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 118.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 183.6 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 Plasma Rifle
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 6,783,420 C-bills

Type: Regulator-D Hovertank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Hover
Tonnage: 43
Battle Value: 1,200

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  4.5
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 11
Flank MP: 17
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.5
Lift Equipment:                                     4.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          152                   8.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         40   
     R/L Side               5/5      30/30   
     Rear                    5         22   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        3.5     
Plasma Rifle Ammo (20)                     Body        2.0     
ECM Suite                                  Body        1.5     
Plasma Rifle                              Turret       6.0     

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #13 on: 08 September 2023, 14:01:30 »
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Dynastes Light Tank (Standard)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 97.2 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 TAG
     1 Snub-Nose PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 6,237,000 C-bills

Type: Dynastes Light Tank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 974

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    178                     9

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         40   
     R/L Side               4/4      35/35   
     Rear                    4         28   
     Turret                  4         40   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Trailer Hitch                              Rear        0.0     
Trailer Hitch                             Front        0.0     
Snub-Nose PPC                             Turret       6.0     
TAG                                       Turret       1.0     
Vehicular Mine Dispenser                   Body        0.5     
C3 Computer                                Body        1.0     
Angel ECM Suite                            Body        2.0     
Active Probe                               Body        1.5     
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        3.0     


It would be the skirmishers. I think that it is fine for a line tank, although it is squish.

edit: I found that it have CASE which it never uses. I swap it for a mine dispenser. Hope that the hordes of it may lay some mines before the battle.

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Dynastes Light Tank (Armor)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 54 kph
Maximum Speed: 108 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 Snub-Nose PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 8,729,000 C-bills

Type: Dynastes Light Tank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 1,074

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 5
Flank MP: 8(10)
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    178                     9

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         40   
     R/L Side               4/4      35/35   
     Rear                    4         28   
     Turret                  4         40   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Trailer Hitch                              Rear        0.0     
Modular Armor                              Left        1.0     
Trailer Hitch                             Front        0.0     
Modular Armor                             Front        1.0     
Modular Armor                             Right        1.0     
Snub-Nose PPC                             Turret       6.0     
Modular Armor                             Turret       1.0     
C3 Computer                                Body        1.0     
Supercharger                               Body        1.0     
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        3.0     


An armored version of the above, fills the same role but slightly better at survive.


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Caterpillar Tractor (Standard)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 97.2 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 6,034,000 C-bills

Type: Caterpillar Tractor
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 783

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    178                     9

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         46   
     R/L Side               4/4      46/46   
     Rear                    4         40   


Weapons
and Ammo                                  Location    Tonnage   
Trailer Hitch                               Rear        0.0     
Trailer Hitch                              Front        0.0     
Bulldozer                                  Front        2.0     
Drone Carrier Control System (4 drones)     Body        4.0     
Angel ECM Suite                             Body        2.0     
Armored Motive System                       Body        6.0     
Smart Robotic Control System                Body        2.0     


No actual combat role for this, for this is expected to be a tractor vehicle to have at least one 40 tons trailer or more. You can use it to deploy the drone controlled trailers.

I wonder how to rule this but I am imagine that the vehicle's own AI will control the trailers by using its own Drone Carrier Control System. So it is not only the trailer, but also the command vehicle of those drones.

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Gun Trailer (Drone Thunderbolt)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 10 ICE
Cruising Speed: 0 kph
Maximum Speed: 0 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 Thunderbolt 20
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 1,328,833 C-bills

Type: Gun Trailer
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 600

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        10 ICE                  1
Cruising MP: 0
Flank MP: 0
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    178                     9

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         35   
     R/L Side               4/4      35/35   
     Rear                    4         35   
     Turret                  4         38   


Weapons
and Ammo                  Location    Tonnage   
Trailer Hitch               Rear        0.0     
Trailer Hitch              Front        0.0     
Thunderbolt 20             Turret       15.0   
Drone Operating System      Body        4.5     
Thunderbolt 20 Ammo (9)     Body        3.0     


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Gun Trailer (Drone LRM)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 10 ICE
Cruising Speed: 0 kph
Maximum Speed: 0 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     6 LRM 5
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 1,538,833 C-bills

Type: Gun Trailer
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 543

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        10 ICE                  1
Cruising MP: 0
Flank MP: 0
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    178                     9

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         35   
     R/L Side               4/4      35/35   
     Rear                    4         35   
     Turret                  4         38   


Weapons
and Ammo                            Location    Tonnage   
Trailer Hitch                         Rear        0.0     
Trailer Hitch                        Front        0.0     
Drone Operating System                Body        4.5     
CASE                                  Body        0.5     
LRM 5 Semi-guided Ammo (72)           Body        3.0     
LRM 5 Thunder-Augmented Ammo (24)     Body        2.0     
6 LRM 5                              Turret       12.0   
Recon Camera                         Turret       0.5     


These are the example of the possible trailers it may tug.

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Caterpillar Tractor (Fire)

Mass: 40 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 129.6 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 8,410,500 C-bills

Type: Caterpillar Tractor
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 40
Battle Value: 573

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    4
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 6
Flank MP: 9(12)
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  2.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    148                   7.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   4         46   
     R/L Side               4/4      46/46   
     Rear                    4         10   


Weapons
and Ammo                 Location    Tonnage   
Trailer Hitch              Rear        0.0     
Trailer Hitch             Front        0.0     
Bulldozer                 Front        2.0     
Booby Trap                 Body        4.0     
Drone Operating System     Body        4.5     
Supercharger               Body        1.0     
Armored Motive System      Body        6.0     


An alternative for this, this is still no battlefield role for it lacks a weapon but it's more like striker - its intended role is to disguise it as the standard caterpillar and also pulls the trailors, and charge the enemy and initiate self destruct sequence when the enemy is close and aim for the unarmed caterpillars.


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Warrior II (Robotic)

Mass: 52 tons
Movement Type: VTOL
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 97.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 151.2 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 TAG
     1 Snub-Nose PPC
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 12,595,200 C-bills

Type: Warrior II
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: VTOL
Tonnage: 52
Battle Value: 1,042

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                 10.5
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 9
Flank MP: 14
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  3.0
Lift Equipment:                                     5.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    218                    11

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   6         44   
     R/L Side               6/6      43/43   
     Rear                    6         43   
     Turret                  6         43   
     Rotor                   6         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
C3 Computer                                Body        1.0     
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        4.0     
TAG                                       Turret       1.0     
Snub-Nose PPC                             Turret       6.0     


It is also skirmisher too. Although it is simple, but it would be not that squish.


« Last Edit: 09 September 2023, 01:47:31 by PuppyLikesLaserPointers »

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #14 on: 08 September 2023, 18:05:27 »
I think the armor needs some tweaking... ideally, armor is one point over a 5-point break.

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #15 on: 09 September 2023, 01:43:45 »
I think the armor needs some tweaking... ideally, armor is one point over a 5-point break.

It's not the aerospace unit(none of these should be on this subforum - you know this section is about combat vehicle, right?) and does not suffered by damage threshold so I don't think that it needs to have 1 point over than the multiple of ten. I do remember that there is an optional rule for that against CVs but I don't care for this for I don't think that it is worth considering to use.

Also armored version is aim for effectively same vehicle, but only add modular armor in exchange for some equipments.

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #16 on: 09 September 2023, 02:50:01 »
You want one point over multiples of five because damage tends to come in multiples of five - and having an extra point left over means you're not breached to atmosphere or exposing internal structure.  It has nothing to do with Aerospace and thresholding.
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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #17 on: 09 September 2023, 08:52:23 »
Exactly that, yes.  Thanks ANS Kamas P81! :)

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #18 on: 09 September 2023, 09:30:00 »
I made an older 40t FCE Gauss Rifle Tank Destroyer once and decided to upscale it for the challenge.

Role: Direct Fire Support

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Unicorn II Tank Destroyer

Mass: 60 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 2,680,000 C-bills

Type: Unicorn II Tank Destroyer
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 60
Battle Value: 1,027

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    6
Engine                        240 Fusion           17.5
Cruising MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor (Heavy Ferro)    138                     7

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   6         45   
     R/L Side               6/6      34/34   
     Rear                    6         25   


Weapons
and Ammo                                 Location    Tonnage   
Gauss Rifle                               Front        15.0   
Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)     Body        4.5     
Targeting Computer                          BD         4.0     
Gauss Rifle Ammo (24)                      Body        3.0     


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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #19 on: 09 September 2023, 09:51:11 »
The Targeting Computer is a particularly brutal touch! :)

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #20 on: 09 September 2023, 15:23:02 »
You want one point over multiples of five because damage tends to come in multiples of five - and having an extra point left over means you're not breached to atmosphere or exposing internal structure.  It has nothing to do with Aerospace and thresholding.

Oh, that makes sense. Still I wonder that a robotic/drone unit will care for this, though.

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #21 on: 09 September 2023, 16:27:39 »
Well if Kolossus wants to go full out, and make a completely new CV....

Rhodes Heavy OmniTank
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 240 XL
Armament: 22.0 tons of pod space

RDS-O
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Rhodes Heavy OmniTank RDS-O

Mass: 60 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     22.0 tons of pod space
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 10,356,000 C-bills

Type: Rhodes Heavy OmniTank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 60
Battle Value: 1,166

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    6
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks:                   12                      2
Control Equipment:                                  3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             2.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          215                    12

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   6         50   
     R/L Side               6/6      45/45   
     Rear                    6         30   
     Turret                  6         45   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          ECM Suite             1.5
                              Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  4.5

Weapons
and Ammo                        Location    Tonnage   
LB 10-X AC                       Turret       11.0   
Recon Camera                     Turret       0.5     
Anti-Missile System              Turret       0.5     
ER Large Laser                   Turret       5.0     
Anti-Missile System Ammo (12)     Body        1.0     
LB 10-X Cluster Ammo (10)         Body        1.0     
LB 10-X AC Ammo (10)              Body        1.0     




RDS-OA
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Rhodes Heavy OmniTank RDS-OA

Mass: 60 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     22.0 tons of pod space
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 10,222,000 C-bills

Type: Rhodes Heavy OmniTank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 60
Battle Value: 1,403

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    6
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             2.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          215                    12

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   6         50   
     R/L Side               6/6      45/45   
     Rear                    6         30   
     Turret                  6         45   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          ECM Suite             1.5
                              Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  4.5

Weapons
and Ammo                 Location    Tonnage   
TAG                       Turret       1.0     
Plasma Rifle              Turret       6.0     
Rotary AC/5               Turret       10.0   
Plasma Rifle Ammo (20)     Body        2.0     
Rotary AC/5 Ammo (60)      Body        3.0     




RDS-OB
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Rhodes Heavy OmniTank RDS-OB

Mass: 60 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     22.0 tons of pod space
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3140
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 10,268,000 C-bills

Type: Rhodes Heavy OmniTank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 60
Battle Value: 1,408

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    6
Engine                        240 XL                  9
Cruising MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Control Equipment:                                  3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             2.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          215                    12

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   6         50   
     R/L Side               6/6      45/45   
     Rear                    6         30   
     Turret                  6         45   

Fixed Equipment
Location                      Fixed               Tonnage
Body                          ECM Suite             1.5
                              Smart Robotic Control System(Improved)  4.5

Weapons
and Ammo                        Location    Tonnage   
Gauss Rifle                      Turret       15.0   
2 ER Medium Laser                Turret       2.0     
2 Anti-Missile System            Turret       1.0     
Anti-Missile System Ammo (24)     Body        2.0     
Gauss Rifle Ammo (16)             Body        2.0     




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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #22 on: 09 September 2023, 18:43:09 »
Rhodes Heavy OmniTank
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 240 XL
Armament: 22.0 tons of pod space

RDS-O (Prime)
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Rhodes Heavy OmniTank RDS-O (Prime)
Cost: 10,356,000 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,166

Weapons
and Ammo                        Location    Tonnage   
LB 10-X AC                       Turret       11.0   
Recon Camera                     Turret       0.5     
Anti-Missile System              Turret       0.5     
ER Large Laser                   Turret       5.0     
2 Heat Sinks                      Body        2.0
Anti-Missile System Ammo (12)     Body        1.0     
LB 10-X Cluster Ammo (10)         Body        1.0     
LB 10-X AC Ammo (10)              Body        1.0     


RDS-OA
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Rhodes Heavy OmniTank RDS-OA
Cost: 10,222,000 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,403

Weapons
and Ammo                 Location    Tonnage   
TAG                       Turret       1.0     
Plasma Rifle              Turret       6.0     
Rotary AC/5               Turret       10.0   
Plasma Rifle Ammo (20)     Body        2.0     
Rotary AC/5 Ammo (60)      Body        3.0     


RDS-OB
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Rhodes Heavy OmniTank RDS-OB
Cost: 10,268,000 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,408

Weapons
and Ammo                        Location    Tonnage   
Gauss Rifle                      Turret       15.0   
2 ER Medium Laser                Turret       2.0     
2 Anti-Missile System            Turret       1.0     
Anti-Missile System Ammo (24)     Body        2.0     
Gauss Rifle Ammo (16)             Body        2.0     

(I edited and rearranged them to get the non-fixed items together)

The Prime and OA designs have 17 tons in the Turret while the OB has 18 tons in the Turret.  I'd be tempted to remove one of the OB's ER Medium Lasers and add another ton of Gauss or AMS ammo into the Body.  The OB should be parking itself at long range and unleashing Tungsten hell on whichever opponent is easiest to hit.

This makes changing from one Rhodes variant to another a matter of changing the Turret, loading ammo into the body, and for the Prime design adding two heat sinks.

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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #23 on: 19 September 2023, 19:10:02 »
Has any of these gotten final picks which one will be in the stories?
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Re: 240 engined Drones please.
« Reply #24 on: 19 September 2023, 19:42:08 »
Has any of these gotten final picks which one will be in the stories?

not yet, so the thing is still running.  (Unlike the similar threads on battlearmor and battlemechs, both of which have had examples appearing either on screen or by mention.)

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