No Starfield Thread?

[GRUD]

Hard to believe I'm the only one playing Starfield.   

Not in very far, only about 11 hours played, on the Series X.  Saw an article on my phone, so I chose the Kid Stuff Trait, and Hero Worshipped didn't sound too bad, so I got that one as well.  I went with the Professor background also.

Got lung damage on the 2nd planet you go to, found ONE dose of meds that would cure it.  Used it, was cured, 3 seconds later, "Lung Damage"!     Finished the mission though, and "Lung Damage Cured".      Currently carrying abut triple my weight limit, have the robot (Vasco) at HIS max weight capacity, AND my ship's cargo hold at its max limit!     I hope I can increase the cargo limit at some point.   


So far I've used the mining laser most in combat, since it recharges and doesn't use ammo.  I've "Acquired" several nice Modified weapons and some Modified suits as well.   

[glitterboy2098]

honestly it looks interesting, but my xbox can't run it and i suck at such first person perspective games on PC.

[I am Belch II]

Ive been playing it. Its ok not awesome but not terrible.

[JadeHellbringer]

Series X player here, in my snazzy black/green w/yellow trim Kestrel-class 'Turkina'.

Loving this so far- it's got its warts, as any Bethesda game does, but it's also been a whole lot of fun, as Bethesda games tend to be. Very happy with it so far. (Only Lv.14 as of last night's finishing of the Mantis mission, but I don't have as much video game time as I did for, say, Fallout 4 when it released)

If you're starting out, man, 'Wanted' is a hell of a perk. Those bounty hunters, especially early-on with the original ship, are ROUGH to deal with, so be ready to bribe your way out of those encounters- you're not shooting your way out.

[guardiandashi]

I have ~14 hours under my belt on it so far

starting system, new atlantis, sol system is where I have been, dropped ~30k on upgrades in sol (at mars) using a recommended upgrade I saw, basically I have a "fat" starter ship with a lab bay on 1 side and a different pod on the other, upgraded my reactor, and added 1 extra cargo pod, and recently upgraded to 2 of the grade A particle beam, and a second missile launcher.  I am not sure if I was able to upgrade to the dwarf 2010 engines from the 2000's you start with

[elf25s]

still had not gotten this game yet...ill do so i  4 months or so i just dont want to be a beta tester for it. still enjoying and thinking about it
oth i am still playing no man sky so no big loss but in 4 months ill take a look at it.

[GRUD]

still had not gotten this game yet...ill do so i  4 months or so i just dont want to be a beta tester for it. still enjoying and thinking about it
oth i am still playing no man sky so no big loss but in 4 months ill take a look at it.

Watched a Friend/Brother play a little bit of No Man's Sky on his PS4.  Thought it looked cool, so got it for the XBox One.

Yeah.   

I started calling it, The Ballad of Grindy Mcgrindypants.   

It's MUCH better now though!  Especially since you can stack more than 10 of any resource in one slot.  Geez that SUCKED! 


Saw a story about a guy that created his own ship in Starfield.  It looks like a plumber/pipefitter made it, all straight pieces and elbows!     Said the most danger he's been in was being attacked by 20+ pirates, playing at the hardest difficulty.  The game has enemies aim center mass, and there's no real "Center" to his ship!   

[elf25s]

i remember when nms was released it was hell...but it was a jewel that needed to be polished and i said so played it for a while stopped for about 2 years came back took break another 2 years and started to play last month...and its almost perfect
if starfield runs the course like most bethesda games it means starfield will be better after about 4 months after its release when most patches are there and mods exist that patches did not fix
i remeber fallout 3 and 4 both went that way and so did skyrim

[JadeHellbringer]

Came across a fun pistol in the gun shop on Akila called Eclipse. Big western-revolver kind of thing, in theory (and using rare and expensive .43 ammo), but... damage is impressive, armor-piercing ability is fantastic, and it even has a suppressor built into it.

Not a cheap gun, but I'm not sure I've put it down since I got it. If you're in the area, check and see if you can get one yourself.

[Øystein]

Eclipse is my goto gun for close range still. I am level 32 now, and like 70 hours in the game.

Enjoying it pretty good, playing it on PC.

Just blew 450k credits on building a new ship based on a youtube video :D

[Prospernia]

Yeah, a link to Starfield is popping up on my Win10 laptop.

[NeonKnight]

I'm absolutely Loving the game - Outpost though....Woof! Hard to get a hang of.

Currently Level 41

Funniest thing I've found so far (Do as early as Possible):

GO to TITAN and do a mission called TOURISTS GO HOME. It's a Scooby-Do-esque mission where the Doctor gives you a Monster Alien Costume to scare away tourists so she can devote her time to the Colonists. After doing this a bunch of times, she will give you the costume to keep.

If you then go the PORIMMA System and do the FIRST CONTACT mission (it's the one you see on all the trailers with the Woman saying "You're Human." as they were a generation ship that took 200 years to get to the system. If you put the Monster Costume before opening the Airlock you get some hilarious alternate dialogue. I had Andreja with me and she also laughed as I looked Silly with the Monster Costume.

Unfortunately no English videos I can find 

[JadeHellbringer]

Me: "Sure, I'll sign up with Vanguard. How hard could that be? Fine, I'll take some silly 'prove yourself' job in Tau Ceti, get it done before I go to bed, it'll be in and out in ten minu-"

Also me: "...I have regrets. Regrets and not nearly enough shotgun ammunition."

[NeonKnight]

Me: "Sure, I'll sign up with Vanguard. How hard could that be? Fine, I'll take some silly 'prove yourself' job in Tau Ceti, get it done before I go to bed, it'll be in and out in ten minu-"

Also me: "...I have regrets. Regrets and not nearly enough shotgun ammunition."

So many mission in Starfield star out this way. So, soooo, Soooooooo many missions.

The worst (in a good way) are the ones you get as you walk around and over hear the NPCs talking and a little mission thing pops up. Talk to Kelton about the Tree, sure ok....

[Dragon Cat]

I'm really enjoying Starfield not perfect nowhere near it but it's a great Fusion of Fallout/Skyrim and the best bits of No Man's Sky its quite polished for a Bethesda game there are bugs but the game is huge

It's size is actually a problem at times a) it's easy to get lost b) if you go off the story path you find a lot of the settlements are the same prefab over and over but its also a massive canvas for mods and DLC

I'll easily sink the next couple of years into this like fallout and skyrim before it

The ship building takes a bit of getting used to but once you do it's very creative and fun, the Outpost building is even more of a challenge

I'd give it an 8/10

[JadeHellbringer]

So many mission in Starfield star out this way. So, soooo, Soooooooo many missions.

The worst (in a good way) are the ones you get as you walk around and over hear the NPCs talking and a little mission thing pops up. Talk to Kelton about the Tree, sure ok....

No, no, you don't understand. I expected a back-and-forth fetch quest. What I actually got was white-knuckle, do-not-play-this-in-the-dark style horror.

TERRORMORPH. Tracking its location via sensor pings that tell you how many meters away it is from your location. Hearing that thing coming close to you is... somehow, the pings make it far scarier than if you were just dealing with it blindly. The sound is seared into my brain now. Things proceed in very unexpected directions from there, but that first encounter in Tau Ceti was better horror than anything I've ever gotten from something like, say, Fallout or even Metro.

That is NOT a complaint, mind you, because it was an exhilarating mission tree, but Sarah owes me some pie Chunks for recommending I take that job.

[NeonKnight]

No, no, you don't understand. I expected a back-and-forth fetch quest. What I actually got was white-knuckle, do-not-play-this-in-the-dark style horror.

Ahhhhh...THAT mission, I have not done yet (I think I have like 50 or so missions waiting for me to do).

I just love how there really is no quick fast mission (even those that are lead to bigger things)

[GRUD]

So many mission in Starfield star out this way. So, soooo, Soooooooo many missions.

I'll easily sink the next couple of years into this like fallout and skyrim before it.

I've yet to finish either F4 OR Skyrim!  And I pre-ordered both of them for the Xbox One!   

Migrated both to the Series X, with hundreds more hours played on that in addition to the hundreds played on the XBone.

Since I heard while playing F3 that (originally, before the DLC), once you finished the game you couldn't play anymore, I avoided the Main storyline in F3, then did the same in F4 and Skyrim.  I Eventually finished F3, and I've played 3 or 4 of the DLCs for it.  Maybe halfway done with F4 and Skyrim?  I know in F4 I need to talk to the guy about building the teleporter.


And now I've got Starfield to play on my days off!   

[JadeHellbringer]

Neighbors were a bit loud this morning in the hallway outside my apartment, couldn't get back to sleep, so I finished off the UC questline. If you haven't done it, you should- it can be started in the lobby of the MAST building in New Atlantis. Along the way, you'll learn some of UCs darkest secrets- I'm not even going to type it with spoiler tags here, I want you to go find out the truth yourself about the skeletons in their closets- and make some tough moral choices along the way while you're at it.

What an exhilarating quest line... I need a cigarette after that. I haven't smoked in almost 20 years. 

[Øystein]

Finished the game (rather, the main question and all the faction questions) and am now in a New Game+.

GOnna shelf it for a while (expansions etc) and go back to finish BG3 :)
But I did enjoy it - put 110 hours to finish it (still plenlty of loose quests left).

[JadeHellbringer]

Finished the Crimson Fleet quest line last night (sided with the UC... this time), and got my hands on the legendary rifle Revenant.

I may never use another gun again. This thing is hilarious. 

[parable]

about a week and 65 hours in.  It's fun.  It's flawed as hell; it plays like a game from the 90s where you need to consult the manual to understand what's going on, only there's no manual.  Controls are absolutely confounding for this oldhead, but I can deal.  Good game, good entertainment for the price, just know that it does a lot of Bethesda isht and that stuff is inescapable.

[GRUD]

Found a woman in Akila City that will buy old books, and for the FIRST copy of them she'll pay $2,000.00!     Want to say her name is Sinclair?

Things labeled "Contraband" (they've got a small yellow icon beside them) will get you in trouble with "The Authorities", and a guide I read on my phone claimed you can sell them at the UC Kiosks, as well as the UC Stores.  That isn't just a Lie, it's a DAMNED lie.     Yes, the stores will buy the stuff, NO, the kiosks will NOT, nor will the kiosks buy stolen items.  Stolen items have a red icon next to them, and have it before you pick them up, so you'll know you Shouldn't take it.  Yes, I've stolen/sold a LOT of things that I shouldn't!   

The Guide also talks like you'll get a LOT of credits for "Mech Components" and "Harvested Organs" (there are several other Contraband items), but in Typical Computer/Video Game RPG Fashion, what you ACTUALLY receive for anything you sell is nowhere near a tenth of the supposed "Value".     Saw another story, I think one of the Developers said, "You don't have to pick up everything!", but again, due to the meager amount you get for selling things, this is yet another Damned Lie!     I grab everything not nailed down, since I'm Over encumbered with resources anyway.     I doubt I'll EVER be able to Fast Travel playing this game.     Have a Boost Pack that reduces the weight of Resources by 5% or 10% (maybe more?), but I'm carrying a LOT of Resources, so it's not that much help.   

Found another guide (on IGN) about Contraband, and it tells you the truth about the UC Kiosks.   

[NeonKnight]

Put resources into your SHIP Cargo.

Sell Contraband at the KEY (Pirates) or RED MILE (bartender buys them) and no scanning.

Stolen items, Sell to any TRADE AUTHORITY and then immediately buy them back for the same cost as selling - instant Laundering.

Things like Mugs, Photo Frames, folders, etc...meh, never pick em up.

[guardiandashi]

Found a woman in Akila City that will buy old books, and for the FIRST copy of them she'll pay $2,000.00!     Want to say her name is Sinclair?

Things labeled "Contraband" (they've got a small yellow icon beside them) will get you in trouble with "The Authorities", and a guide I read on my phone claimed you can sell them at the UC Kiosks, as well as the UC Stores.  That isn't just a Lie, it's a DAMNED lie.     Yes, the stores will buy the stuff, NO, the kiosks will NOT, nor will the kiosks buy stolen items.  Stolen items have a red icon next to them, and have it before you pick them up, so you'll know you Shouldn't take it.  Yes, I've stolen/sold a LOT of things that I shouldn't!   

The Guide also talks like you'll get a LOT of credits for "Mech Components" and "Harvested Organs" (there are several other Contraband items), but in Typical Computer/Video Game RPG Fashion, what you ACTUALLY receive for anything you sell is nowhere near a tenth of the supposed "Value".     Saw another story, I think one of the Developers said, "You don't have to pick up everything!", but again, due to the meager amount you get for selling things, this is yet another Damned Lie!     I grab everything not nailed down, since I'm Over encumbered with resources anyway.     I doubt I'll EVER be able to Fast Travel playing this game.     Have a Boost Pack that reduces the weight of Resources by 5% or 10% (maybe more?), but I'm carrying a LOT of Resources, so it's not that much help.   

Found another guide (on IGN) about Contraband, and it tells you the truth about the UC Kiosks.   

misleading.

at base price you get ~10-15% of the price they claim the value is.
there is a skill I think its barter that boost the sell value you get and reduces the price you pay

[Dragon Cat]

Put resources into your SHIP Cargo.

Sell Contraband at the KEY (Pirates) or RED MILE (bartender buys them) and no scanning.

Stolen items, Sell to any TRADE AUTHORITY and then immediately buy them back for the same cost as selling - instant Laundering.

Things like Mugs, Photo Frames, folders, etc...meh, never pick em up.

Get shielded cargo and a jammer from the Red Mile ship guy as well and you will rarely be stopped by the scanners

I'm the same don't touch stuff that isn't ammunition, guns, armour ot crafting items

[guardiandashi]

Get shielded cargo and a jammer from the Red Mile ship guy as well and you will rarely be stopped by the scanners

I'm the same don't touch stuff that isn't ammunition, guns, armour ot crafting items

I am a pack rat, and I admit it.
I pick up everything that has a listed value of over ~55-60 cr and all resources guns and ammo.
I just recently unlocked the eye, which means the scan data that vendors offer ~500 cr for sells to the constellation guy for ~1000 cr which is not a horrible source of income

[glitterboy2098]

at base price you get ~10-15% of the price they claim the value is.
there is a skill I think its barter that boost the sell value you get and reduces the price you pay

this is typical for bethesda RPG games.

and i tried out the "cloud gaming" version available to my older xbox through the gamepass options. fun game, though i suspect i made a hash of the character build (i usually do)
took me a bit of time to get over the kleptomania instinct i picked up from Fallout 4 and Fallout76. being able to actually use all those misc items taught some bad habits. honestly i kinda wish the new game had a 'recycling' device to do similar with all the junk, breaking it down into crafting components.

[Dragon Cat]

I am a pack rat, and I admit it.
I pick up everything that has a listed value of over ~55-60 cr and all resources guns and ammo.
I just recently unlocked the eye, which means the scan data that vendors offer ~500 cr for sells to the constellation guy for ~1000 cr which is not a horrible source of income

When you unlock personal atmosphere power you can sprint while over encumbered with no health damage

this is typical for bethesda RPG games.

and i tried out the "cloud gaming" version available to my older xbox through the gamepass options. fun game, though i suspect i made a hash of the character build (i usually do)
took me a bit of time to get over the kleptomania instinct i picked up from Fallout 4 and Fallout76. being able to actually use all those misc items taught some bad habits. honestly i kinda wish the new game had a 'recycling' device to do similar with all the junk, breaking it down into crafting components.

I'm really glad it doesn't it means I don't need to pick up everything for little value/use

[GRUD]

Put resources into your SHIP Cargo.

Sell Contraband at the KEY (Pirates) or RED MILE (bartender buys them) and no scanning.

Stolen items, Sell to any TRADE AUTHORITY and then immediately buy them back for the same cost as selling - instant Laundering.

Things like Mugs, Photo Frames, folders, etc...meh, never pick em up.

My Ship Cargo is FULL of Resources!     I think I've got Vasco (or the ship?) hauling 4 Ship Repair Kits (or whatever they're called), and I'm lugging 4-6 more.  Vasco is of course at Max Capacity also.  Mainly "Aid" and "Resources" items.

Hadn't thought of the Money Laundering angle.     


Again, those first copies of the old books are the only thing I've encountered so far that you get a LOT of money for.   

misleading.

at base price you get ~10-15% of the price they claim the value is.
there is a skill I think its barter that boost the sell value you get and reduces the price you pay

According to the IGN Guide, it's "Commerce", but at Rank 4 you still only sell at 25% more, buy at 20% less.     Even at that it makes the "Values" listed for things like ships and high quality guns and armor look INSANE.   



I haven't been able to find any Info about them, but do you have to keep the Skill Books you find, in order to get the Benefit from them, or can you sell them after you pick them up?     I know you could sell them in F3/4/NV, but again I haven't Specifically seen you don't HAVE to keep them.  So I still have all the ones I've found so far.        Seems like I'll get a Whopping 13 Credits each though.     Maybe I should wait until I've got Commerce Rank 4 before selling them?

[Dragon Cat]

I'd upgrade your cargo one of the first things I do when I take a new ship

If I get too much resources I combine a bunch of them into more advanced components

[Øystein]

I love the shipbuilding part of the game (far more than basebuilding).

So many awesome designs people are making and posting on Youtube. :D

I've made two C-class ships based on some specs there. Saw a new one yesterday which I can't afford yet (costs like 1 mill creds to build), but was like 9000 cargo, etc.

[JadeHellbringer]

Me, in a particularly difficult space fracas between UC and Crimson Fleet: *DYING REPEATEDLY WITHOUT ANY GOOD PATH FORWARD*

Also me: *Realizing I leveled up recently, could use that to upgrade my ship type...*

Also me again: "...Hang in there, UC, I'll be right back!"

The difference in a fight between a good B-ship and a decent C-ship is astounding. Same fight I'd been struggling with all evening took a whole five minutes and no shield loss. I'll miss that old ship, but the new guy? That's an ugly bug wonderful craft.

Hulking, angular, slow, and armed with four massive particle cannons- there was never any question about whether or not to name it "Masakari".

[GRUD]

I'd upgrade your cargo one of the first things I do when I take a new ship

If I get too much resources I combine a bunch of them into more advanced components

Somewhere outside of Akila City I found a small farm, run by Spacers.  And what's this nearby?  Their ship!     Boarded it, killed the 3 in the cockpit, and had a new ship!  Looted it, sold it, was able to upgrade mine slightly (a slightly larger Cargo Hold), but immediately maxed out the storage space.     Don't yet have the Shipbuilding Skills OR credits to build a larger ship.     I keep spending my money on resources or ammo, some on "Aid" items, like food ingredients.  Can't find enough onions to make very many "Grandpa's Meatloaf"!

[NeonKnight]

Me...still using the basic frame of the STAR RANGERS free Ship at level 57.

I only just now upgraded the weapons to C-Class last night...

[Dragon Cat]

Me, in a particularly difficult space fracas between UC and Crimson Fleet: *DYING REPEATEDLY WITHOUT ANY GOOD PATH FORWARD*

Also me: *Realizing I leveled up recently, could use that to upgrade my ship type...*

Also me again: "...Hang in there, UC, I'll be right back!"

The difference in a fight between a good B-ship and a decent C-ship is astounding. Same fight I'd been struggling with all evening took a whole five minutes and no shield loss. I'll miss that old ship, but the new guy? That's an ugly bug wonderful craft.

Hulking, angular, slow, and armed with four massive particle cannons- there was never any question about whether or not to name it "Masakari".

Yup been there I encountered the Ecliptic Battleship Camulus and was slaughtered even with a maxed out class C ship, it took me a lot of go's

If anyone is interested in what I class as one of the best types of ships in the game go to the Serpentis system it is frequented with by the best Vu'ruun and Spacer ships

I captured a Eulogy in my first playthrough it's got 3 or four decks and is huge inside, absolute beast in combat especially after you put Obliterator Particle Beams on it

[Dragon Cat]

My current ship

[Daryk]

Where the heck do you get the crew to run those things? ???

[NeonKnight]

Where the heck do you get the crew to run those things? ???

Companions, Hireable NPCs in Bars, and others found about the Galaxy (I've got Amelia Earhart as a crew member after 1 mission)

[Daryk]

Nice!  I may have to check out the system requirements for that game... though I fear they're beyond my ancient machine... :/

[Dragon Cat]

Companions, Hireable NPCs in Bars, and others found about the Galaxy (I've got Amelia Earhart as a crew member after 1 mission)

Yeah levelling up that skill for ship command was a pain until a friend said use a ship gifted to you then it was simple

I just wish I could find better skilled crew outwith the main quest crews it's thin pickings for good crew

[glitterboy2098]

tip for the "ground pounder" mission at Altair II. the first keycard you get is for the stairs at the end of the hallway where you get the keycoard. those stairs (and some more gunfights) will lead you to the person who gives you the keycard which will open all the locked doors.

i thought the mission was bugged for a good while until i decided to google search what was going on.

[GRUD]

For anyone JUST starting to play.  Your robot (Vasco) Apparently has the processor from an ancient "Trash 80" (Radio Shack TRS-80) computer!     The idiot OFTEN walks in from of me when I'm using the cutter to mine some minerals.  Then he whines about taking damage.     The only other Crewmember I've got is the "Hero Worship" guy, but I've yet to take him with me anywhere.  Somehow I think he'd do the same thing.   


Found a space station (don't remember the name, but it had been a Zero-G Casino at some point), with a bunch of either Spacers or Pirates on board.  (One or the other, don't remember which.)  I'm having to float around, apparently using my boost pack.  Vasco is WALKING through Zero-G!   

[NeonKnight]

"Finished" the main game, as in just finished the first playthrough, and I must say (no spoilers), I understand now why they extol the NG+ as it is truly part of the game. Even the NPC companions have new lines of dialog for NG+.

[Dragon Cat]

"Finished" the main game, as in just finished the first playthrough, and I must say (no spoilers), I understand now why they extol the NG+ as it is truly part of the game. Even the NPC companions have new lines of dialog for NG+.

I've done different faction quests per NG+ just to give them different feels

[garhkal]

Since dont do console games, i'll give this a pass.  but i've had fun in the past, with some Bethesda games before, specifically terminator Skynet, and Terminator future shock.

[NeonKnight]

Since dont do console games, i'll give this a pass.  but i've had fun in the past, with some Bethesda games before, specifically terminator Skynet, and Terminator future shock.

You are aware it is also on STEAM yes?

[garhkal]

I don't do steam.  Just like i don't stream.

[GRUD]

I don't do steam.  Just like i don't stream.

+1 Trillion Likes!

 

I WAS a Happy PC Gamer until Steam came out.     I had dialup at the time, and Steam wasn't "Dialup Friendly", and I doubt they've changed it any.  I'm now a Happy Console (Xbox/PS) Gamer!  I've got plenty of games through GOG at least!   

I FONDLY remember playing both Terminator games on the PC also!  If only GOG would get them, I'd be Happy to buy them again.

[garhkal]

I WAS a Happy PC Gamer until Steam came out.     I had dialup at the time, and Steam wasn't "Dialup Friendly", and I doubt they've changed it any.  I'm now a Happy Console (Xbox/PS) Gamer!  I've got plenty of games through GOG at least!   

I FONDLY remember playing both Terminator games on the PC also!  If only GOG would get them, I'd be Happy to buy them again.

I have lots of games i'd love to see GOG get... 

[Bedwyr]

For me the big one is for MS to open up their Mechwarrior/Mechcommander library. There's some others that don't quite come to mind, but I think they're sitting on some properties that aren't just Age of Empires or Halo.

[Dragon Cat]

I kind of wish they had only released the most popular corner of starfield. I know its a canvas for both Bethesda and modders over the next several years but it gets very repetitive the further you go off the beaten path

I love the ship building, the base building is complicated but worth it

[JadeHellbringer]

Ran into a small problem this morning that I'm not thrilled with.

Landed on a windswept rock to do some scans. Was irritated to find that my ship then promptly took off without me. Irritating, to say the least! Reloaded save, landed again, this time the ship stayed put. Good boy. Did my scans, killed some time while waiting for the day-job uploads to finish up. Took off to head to orbit and move on to the next planet in the system.

And came under fire from a nearby ship. Several particle cannons, that's adding up fast- better take out his engines and turn thing arou-

That's my ship.

That's literally the same ship I'm on right now. I'm standing on the bridge and looking at my own ship's twin bearing down on me- even same name, 'Masakari' (because quad particle guns and big blocky armor plates, so of COURSE it got that name). I was fighting myself- and lost badly, since he got the jump on me.

Has this happened to anyone else? Or did I hit one HELL of a Bethesda-glitch?

[NeonKnight]

Nope but sounds cool based on some of the NG+ things I know.

[Daryk]

That's one heck of a glitch if that's what it is! 

[GRUD]

I kind of wish they had only released the most popular corner of starfield. I know its a canvas for both Bethesda and modders over the next several years but it gets very repetitive the further you go off the beaten path

I love the ship building, the base building is complicated but worth it

I've been inside the EXACT SAME frozen "Abandoned Lab" at least THREE TIMES now.    I found it as a random building the 1st and 3rd times, went there specifically on a mission the 2nd.  Bunch of Spacers (or Pirates?), with a Quad robot near the exit each time.  But I've been Ranking Up my Security skill, so I've been able to find more loot each time.   


And in other Random Weirdness News, a ship I'd "found" (and didn't have to kill any crew to take!) somehow renamed itself.     I encountered a Bounty Hunter on a planet, they told me to meet them somewhere to take out a Bounty and they'd split it with me.  I'd done this once before, so No Problem.  Along the way I see this ship.  I investigate, no crew, I take off with it and the Bounty mission gets "Updated".  I Guess I took the Bounty Hunter's ship?     Seems like it WAS called something like Railhaven (Rail "Something" anyway), but after encountering some Ecliptic Jerks on a mission to get the guy that calls you Friendo some Kraken ARs, the game froze. Had to restart, which lost ALL my progress on that mission.     Got back to the base (where I'd actually landed my ship, but saw something shiny, so I wandered off to check it out before going BACK to the "Abandoned Hangar" - which WASN'T!), and saw a ship sitting there, something like "Eclipse Combat Action 01".  ???     Weird, name, but whatever.  I go to it, I'm able to board it.  On board is the "Adoring Fan" (or "Annoying Fan"?), and I didn't have to re-register the damn thing.  Later tried talking to a Ship Tech, thinking I could rename it, but couldn't figure out How to do that.     I wanted to name it, "The Randy Capuchin"!   

Funny that the name of the ship HAD been the name of a Motel my Mom's Dad had owned years before I was born!  The Rail Haven was in Sikeston, Missouri, though Wiki only mentions one in Springfield, MO. 

[Dragon Cat]

You can rename it in the modding screen at a ship merchant

Do a flight check then the option is below

My hope for DLC/Mods (console) is they introduce new random buildings to encounter as you go through the game

[parable]

Kore Kinetics firearms are HAGs.  They're magnetically accelerated projectiles that use multiple firing tubes with small-caliber munitions to achieve otherwise-unattainable rates of fire.  A bit ironic that the Mag* guns boast near-perfect accuracy, whereas HAGs cluster well up close and poorly downrange.

[GRUD]

Found out by accident and frustration that you CAN'T kill yourself by damage from maxing out your CO2 gauge.     Yes, your health WILL drop down pretty low, to where the red in your Health Gauge is showing "Heal" (maybe "Healt"?), but it won't go away completely.  I've got a backpack that regenerates my health outside of combat, so that helps.  Sure, if your health is that low from you running while encumbered, and you get attacked, you could die from THAT damage.

Currently carrying over 8K of stuff!  I've seen meds that claim to heal hernias, yet I'm not sure HOW you can get a Hernia if I haven't gotten one by now.     At one time I was carrying over 9K of stuff!   

In other news, Vasco is STILL an idiot!      

[deathshadow]

I have tried repeatedly to give the game a chance, and I think I've just been ruined by quality storytelling and character development in games. Because to be brutally frank Starfield commits the greatest sin you can commit in gaming.

It is BORING.

People say it gets good around the 20 hour mark, and now at maybe 12 hours into it (and three weeks of not playing it) I cannot find anything that would make me want to do that extra 8 hours.

There is nothing to make me care about the characters, the story, and it feels like one of those "playground" games that makes Far Cry 6 look substansive.

And I SHOULD like the game. The space combat feels a lot like Freelancer (a game I spent years creating mods for), I usually like CRPG's... but.

You know, it FEELS like it was supposed to be a MMO and then was back-tracked on halfway through development. Sure, it has a very very large "world", but there's nothing in it. Even the core planet I can never remember the name of is this vast expanse -- like the hub on the Citadel scaled up 200x -- but the stores and places to interact are farther apart than walking from Helgen to Riverwood, To the point they needed to add a transit system to a single map... But there's little to nothing of interest or value to fill that space.

The writing and characters are equally bad. The dead stares on every character are ME:Andromeda levels of "my face is tired" and generally feels like they just ripped off models and design from "The Outer Worlds". The voice actors do a competent enough job, but it's like they were handed scripts written by Tommy Wiseau.

It just failed to engage me as a player.

I dunno, maybe Fallen Order, Days Gone, and HZD spoiled me as a player who's more interested in an engaging singleplayer experience where they tell me a story. Much less take the time to make me care about the characters.

I mean seriously, in Days Gone when Addy asks me to get her a liston knife, I lost it. I knew what that was for... No, Oh no. No no no, you're not taking...

Simply put -- for me at least -- Starfield is not a good game. It seems technically competent, but it breaks no new ground and feels like the effort was put everywhere except making you care.

And the action isn't fast paced enough for Carmack / Romero levels of "Story? Games don't need a story!" where you can get away with Michael Bay levels of vapidity.

In that way I guess you could also say it's poorly paced.

[guardiandashi]

I have tried repeatedly to give the game a chance, and I think I've just been ruined by quality storytelling and character development in games. Because to be brutally frank Starfield commits the greatest sin you can commit in gaming.

It is BORING.

People say it gets good around the 20 hour mark, and now at maybe 12 hours into it (and three weeks of not playing it) I cannot find anything that would make me want to do that extra 8 hours.

There is nothing to make me care about the characters, the story, and it feels like one of those "playground" games that makes Far Cry 6 look substansive.

And I SHOULD like the game. The space combat feels a lot like Freelancer (a game I spent years creating mods for), I usually like CRPG's... but.

You know, it FEELS like it was supposed to be a MMO and then was back-tracked on halfway through development. Sure, it has a very very large "world", but there's nothing in it. Even the core planet I can never remember the name of is this vast expanse -- like the hub on the Citadel scaled up 200x -- but the stores and places to interact are farther apart than walking from Helgen to Riverwood, To the point they needed to add a transit system to a single map... But there's little to nothing of interest or value to fill that space.

The writing and characters are equally bad. The dead stares on every character are ME:Andromeda levels of "my face is tired" and generally feels like they just ripped off models and design from "The Outer Worlds". The voice actors do a competent enough job, but it's like they were handed scripts written by Tommy Wiseau.

It just failed to engage me as a player.

I dunno, maybe Fallen Order, Days Gone, and HZD spoiled me as a player who's more interested in an engaging singleplayer experience where they tell me a story. Much less take the time to make me care about the characters.

I mean seriously, in Days Gone when Addy asks me to get her a liston knife, I lost it. I knew what that was for... No, Oh no. No no no, you're not taking...

Simply put -- for me at least -- Starfield is not a good game. It seems technically competent, but it breaks no new ground and feels like the effort was put everywhere except making you care.

And the action isn't fast paced enough for Carmack / Romero levels of "Story? Games don't need a story!" where you can get away with Michael Bay levels of vapidity.

In that way I guess you could also say it's poorly paced.

I get it.
I found I kind of like the game but I got distracted so took a break.

my big complaint why do all the characters faces (and the ones you can use for yourself) look like they came out of the post bomb fallout when there is the medical facility literally next door that can do plastic surgery and massively remake your appearance.  I am not saying EVERYONE should be movie star "pretty" but they should range from scars/pox all the way to drool at the pretty person

as to how I got into the game what helped was essentially doing some side quests.
scanning moons/planets to get 100% survey data.
do the quest at Demos shipyard to start bringing in 1000 units of lead
gather credits and upgrade your starting ship, like increasing your cargo, habs, drives and jump drive/fuel etc.

so far the "main quest" doesn't really engage me, which is why I get deathshadows complaint about it being boring

[deathshadow]

I am not saying EVERYONE should be movie star "pretty" but they should range from scars/pox all the way to drool at the pretty person

You mean like in Witcher 3 where visiting Novograd the audio ALONE makes you feel like you're gonna catch the pox?

[Bedwyr]

I visited a lecture by David McCullough once. I forget the question but he said that everyone in the room without exception was beautiful. The complexion of the audience was mostly beyond the comprehension of people living in the smallpox years.

[Øystein]

Starfield is also on Xbox Game Pass (on PC). (basically Microsofts PC gaming store).