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NOTE: This thread is for the second volume of the revised, two-volume edition of Tactical Operations.  We are no longer collecting errata for the original single-volume version.


This thread is for all issues and problems with Tactical Operations: Advanced Units & Equipment.

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There are four printings of TO:AUE - be sure to cite which release you're working from:
2020
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2023 - pending

Current errata version is 7.0, and can be found here:
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Please remember to follow the errata report template when reporting issues.  Thanks.



Developer-Level Errata:
In case of any contradiction, developer-level errata takes precedence over the current errata document.

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Re: Tactical Operations - Advanced Units and Equipment
« Reply #1 on: 07 June 2020, 13:08:49 »
Fourth Printing Tactical Operations - Advanced Units and Equipment

Patchwork Armor page 189

Error: Unclear wording

Third paragraph:
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Even under patchwork armor rules, a unit may not mount
multiple armor types in the same location (including locations
with a front and rear facing, such as ’Mech torsos). A unit may
also not mount armor types illegal for that unit type to mount.

Correction:
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Even under patchwork armor rules, a unit may not mount
multiple armor types in the same location (including locations
with a front and rear facing, such as ’Mech torsos). These rules do not allow a unit to mount armor illegal to it nor do they change what armors are legal to mount on a unit.
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Re: Tactical Operations - Advanced Units and Equipment
« Reply #2 on: 08 June 2020, 19:08:22 »
VERSION: PDF, initial release
LOCATION:
Page 9, Campaign Operations.
THE ERROR: "Campaign Operations (CO) is the rulebook you are holding in your hands and the foundational book to" -  This is Tactical Ops, not Campaign Ops
THE CORRECTION: "Campaign Operations (CO) is the foundational book to"...

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Re: Tactical Operations - Advanced Units and Equipment
« Reply #3 on: 24 June 2020, 08:55:48 »
Version: PDF

Weapon & Equipment Tables (Page 216 onward)

THE ERROR All References are based on the initial Combined Book (424 pages) as opposed to the split book.

EXAMPLE:

Bloodhound AP Active probe has a page reference of 278 (Correct for the combined book), should be page 90 (split book).

Correction, Update table to reflect new changes (seem to be a flat 188 page discrepancy across the board.)
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Re: Tactical Operations - Advanced Units & Equipment
« Reply #4 on: 31 July 2020, 14:33:23 »
Reposting from old thread:

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=68378.0

Per that thread, laser insulators do not take up any additional space on non-mechs

TO, pg 221 shows a series of +1** for CV SV F SC unit types

I believe those +1's should be changed to +0 for the sake of clarity.
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Re: Tactical Operations - Advanced Units & Equipment
« Reply #5 on: 10 October 2020, 09:03:41 »
Two copies of the same error:

Version: PDF (Corrected 4th printing)
Location: LARGE NAVAL VESSEL HEIGHTS TABLE (Advanced Support Vehicles Chapter, p24)
THE ERROR:
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Submersible Large Naval Vessels may not dive in water that exceeds the total sum of the above- and below-surface level values. If they attempt to do so, the vessel will run aground

(Underscore added to show error)

Explanation: if I have Depth 10 water, and a submarine that is a Class C Template (that has height 1 and depth 2), based on the above description the submarine cannot submerge because the Depth 10 water exceeds the sum of the above and below water height (1+2)

THE CORRECTION:
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Submersible Large Naval Vessels may not dive in water that is less than the total sum of the above- and below-surface level values. If they attempt to do so, the vessel will run aground


Version: PDF (Corrected 4th printing)
Location: AIRSHIP AND LARGE VESSEL TEMPLATE TABLE (Advanced Support Vehicle Construction Chapter, p57)
THE ERROR:
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Submersible Large Naval Vessels may not dive in water that exceeds the total sum of both the above- and below-surface Level values. If they attempt to do so, the vessel will run aground

(Underscore added to show error)

Explanation: if I have Depth 10 water, and a Submersible Mobile Structure submarine that has a total height of 5, based on the above description the submarine cannot submerge because the Depth 10 water exceeds the height of the Submersible Mobile Structure

THE CORRECTION:
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Submersible Large Naval Vessels may not dive in water that is less than the total sum of both the above- and below-surface Level values. If they attempt to do so, the vessel will run aground

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Re: Tactical Operations - Advanced Units & Equipment
« Reply #6 on: 20 October 2020, 13:12:53 »
Xotl: Much obliged, Alfaryn


Here are the page reference errors to TO: AR and TO: AUE I've found in the initial release of the TO: AUE pdf. Plus a few other problems I've found while looking for page reference errors.
Note that:
1. this is a product of just one afternoon and evening of my work, and it is entirely possible that I've missed penty of errors,
2. I have not checked page references to books other than TO: AR and TO: AUE,
3. I have not checked the table of contents and the index.

p. 25 First bullet point under Weapon Attacks
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: Large Naval Vessel Template (see p. 213)
SHOULD BE: Large Naval Vessel Template (see p. 215)

p. 35 Third paragraph of the Ground Mobile Structures section
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: Unit Displacement, p. 41
SHOULD BE: Unit Displacement, p. 40

p. 39 In Attacks Against Mobile Structures section
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: Aimed Shots, page 120
SHOULD BE: Aimed Shots, page 118, TO: AR

p. 88
Two kinds of errors:

INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCES 1.: All page references on the page are wrong.
CORRECTION: Subtract 188 from all page reference numbers.

PROBLEM 2.: One of the items depicted is incorrectly named "BattleMech".
CORRECTION: Rename it "Battletech Claws".

p. 89
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: All page references on the page are wrong.
CORRECTION: Subtract 188 from all page reference numbers.

p. 105 The first paragraph of the Game Rules section in the BattleMech/ProtoMech Partial Wing box
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: ProtoMech/BattleMech Partial Wing Performance Table on page 295.
SHOULD BE: ProtoMech/BattleMech Partial Wing Performance Table on page 107.

p. 107
Two errors in the Beast-mounted Infantry Box

INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE 1.: Beast-Mounted Infantry Sample Types Table on page 294.
SHOULD BE: Beast-Mounted Infantry Sample Types Table on page 106.

INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE 2.: continued on page 296
SHOULD BE: continued on page 108

p. 123 At the bottom of the Field Artillery box
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: Field Artillery may be used against airborne aerospace targets using the flak rules for direct-fire artillery (see Flak, p. 97).
SHOULD BE: Field Artillery may be used against airborne aerospace targets using the flak rules for direct-fire artillery (see Flak, p. 153, TO: AR).

p. 140
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: All page reference numbers on the page are incorrect.
SHOULD BE: Subtract 188 from all page reference numbers.

p. 141
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: All page reference numbers on the page are incorrect.
SHOULD BE: Subtract 188 from all page reference numbers.

p. 158 In the Game Rules section of the BattleMech Taser box.
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: general Taser rules described on page 345
SHOULD BE: general Taser rules described on page 157

p. 178 Last line in the Inferno Mines (Land/Sea) box
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: As with Standard (Conventional) Mines, unless cleared (see p. 176, TO: AR),
SHOULD BE: As with Standard (Conventional) Mines, unless cleared (see p. 178, TO: AR),

p. 187 Fifth paragraph of the Game Rules section in the Remote Sensors box
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE:Visual Range Tables on page 221. Infrared remote sensors use the Support Vehicle Basic Fire Control IR row on the Sensor Range Tables on page 222. Radar remote sensors use the Support Vehicle Basic Fire Control row on the Sensor Range Tables on page 222.
SHOULD BE: Visual Range Tables on page 189, TO: AR. Infrared remote sensors use the Support Vehicle Basic Fire Control IR row on the Sensor Range Tables on page 190, TO: AR. Radar remote sensors use the Support Vehicle Basic Fire Control row on the Sensor Range Tables on page 190, TO: AR.

p. 211 Advanced Conventional Infantry Record Sheet
Three problems: 

INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE 1.: In the footnotes of Morale Table - "See Infernos and Cruise Missile Attack (p. 211)."
SHOULD BE: See Infernos and Cruise Missile Attack (p. 179, TO: AR).

INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE 2.: In the footnotes of Morale Table - "Conventional Infantry with Armor (see p. 317)"
SHOULD BE: Conventional Infantry with Armor (see p. 129, TO: AUE)

INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE 3.: Footnote of Recovering Nerve Table - "Only applies if Commanders (see p. 191) are in use."
SHOULD BE: Only applies if Commanders (see p. 159, TO: AR) are in use.

pp. 216-228
INCORRECT PAGE REFERENCE: As NeonKnight said above, all page referencess on these pages are wrong. Note that it applies not only to the "Ref" column, but also the "See rules for this equipment in the Advanced Weapons And Equipment section, starting on p. 274." footnotes at the bottom of the Construction Data tables.
CORRECTION: Change the footnotes to "See rules for this equipment in the Advanced Weapons And Equipment section, starting on p. 86." As for the numbers in the "Ref" columns, someone would hace to go through them one by one to make sure, but a quick look at just some of them suggests that you should subtract around 188 (plus or minus 1 in some cases) from every one of them.
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The errata for the upcoming second printing has been posted.  Many of the corrections were page number references, but were not noted in the document.

Also, Alfaryn: I added you to the playtester/factchecker credits.  Thanks a ton for going through those page # references.
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p.194
PROBLEM: Not all PPC+Capacitor combos have the double-cross footnote indicating that a explosive crit BV discount should be provided.
FIX: Add a double-cross next to "PPC (Heavy) + PPC Capacitor" and "ER PPC + PPC Capacitor"
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p.195
Chaff Pod: Add the the "‡" footnote stating "Treat as Gauss weapon when calculating defensive battle rating."
M-Pod: Add the the "‡" footnote stating "Treat as Gauss weapon when calculating defensive battle rating."

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p.196, footnotes
Create and add the two following footnotes:
--"‡ Treat as Gauss weapon when calculating defensive battle rating."
--"N Explodes: Weapon/Equipment explodes when damaged"

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p.196
Improved Heavy Laser (Small/Medium/Large)
--Add "N" and "‡" symbols to each weapon's line.

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p.194-195
--Create new "Q" footnote stating "Treat weapon as a one crit Gauss weapon for defensive BV purposes"
--Add the "Q" symbol to the HV AC 2/5/10 lines.
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p.94, Reactive (Blazer) Armor rules

ERROR: The following sentence appears to have been added to the end of the wrong paragraph: "Note that if a ’Mech location contains nothing but Reactive Armor criticals, this second 2D6 roll is only made once; any result other than a 2 in this case means the critical hit transfers to the next location (see p. 125, TW)."

FIX: Delete from the first paragraph, add to the second paragraph.
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VERSION: 2020

LOCATION:
page 225, Infantry Construction Data

THE ERROR:
The WT column gives the unit as "kg". This is obviously wrong, otherwise a microcopter would weigh 1.9kg.

THE CORRECTION:
change the WT column weight unit to "Tons"
or
multiply the WT column weight values by 1000
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Corrected Fourth Printing

page 162, XCT troops construction rules

Error:
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Extreme Temperatures (Cold): XCT Troops equipped for extreme cold must use Snowsuit, Heatsuit, Environment Suit (Hostile or Combat), or Spacesuit (any) armor
types.
Extreme Temperatures (Hot): XCT Troops equipped for extreme heat must use Cooling Suit (any type), Environment Suit (Hostile or Combat), or Spacesuit (any)
armor types.

As per https://bg.battletech.com/forums/ask-the-writers/heat-suit-clarification Heatsuits are used for hot environments, not cold ones.

Fix: Delete heat suit from Extreme Temperatures (Cold), add Heat Suit to Extreme Temperatures (Hot).

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Corrected 4th printing PDF.

Naval Comm-Scanner Suit (NCSS) (pp. 144-145) does not have a listed BV. Per p.192 any equipment not listed on the tables as having a BV is considered to have 0 BV. However, because the NCCS provides an initiative bonus even in standard game play it should have a BV.

Since NCSS in canon units is not particularly widespread this would only affect the BV calculations of the Drake (JHS:T), Naga (JHS:T), Aesir (TRO:3085), Vanir (TRO:3085), Vengeance-PWS Prototype (TRO: Prototypes), and Bug Eye (IP3:IE)
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Corrected 4th Printing, page 224, the "Heavy Weapons Ammunition Combat Data" table.

The Flak entry should have a "**" in the "To-Hit Modifier" column in addition to the "**" marks under "Damage" to account for the Flak attack bonus (which is mentioned in its description).

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Corrected Fourth Printing.
p.195

Add footnote stating the following:
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*The damage used to calculate the item’s BV is based on the final damage the item can deal after all possible modifications (such as TSM) are applied.
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Corrected 4th printing (downloaded 2020 Oct 6)

p85:
Need to add a reference in "STEP 5: COMPLETE THE RECORD SHEET" that the price formula for a Mobile Structure is on p230

p200:
Need to add a line under Construction:
cost, p230

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Need to add a line under Mobile Structures:
cost, 230

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An erratum from the Physical weapon attack modifiers thread (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/tactical-operations/what-are-the-to-hit-modifier-of-to-mech-sized-melee-weapons/) which did not make into the current v. 6.0 PRE errata document:

P. 216, Claws, To-hit Modifier column

Change the mod from "0" to "+1".


Xotl: Just snuck in under the wire.
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Corrected Fourth Printing

p. 157 Second bullet point under Supercharger

PROBLEMATIC SENTENCE: For ’Mechs, any such hits are applied to the upper-most undamaged critical slot(s) in the center torso.
PROBLEM: While official 'Mech record sheets are always printed with Engine in three first slots in the Center Torso section of their Critical Hit Tables, the rules as far as I'm aware don't require such placement. This may cause problems with player-designed 'Mechs.
SUGGESTION: Change the problematic sentence to something like: "For ’Mechs, any such hits are applied to the upper-most undamaged Engine critical slot(s) in the center torso."

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p.100, Shield construction rules

PROBLEM: The third piece of errata here---regarding pod-mounting shields---was never implemented: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/errata/tactical-operations-4-june-2014-(v3-3)/msg710110/#msg710110


Xotl: managed to slip this into the 6th printing just before it went out.
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Tactical Operations, AUE: 6th Edition


On page 157, under the rules for the Supercharger, there are two bullet points which are repeated.  The last two points talk about TSM interacting with a Supercharger:

• A ’Mech may combine a Supercharger with Triple-Strength Myomer. If both are used in the same round, the Triple Strength Myomer modifier is added to the Super-
charger-modified speed.

• A ’Mech may combine a Supercharger with Triple-Strength Myomer. If both are used in the same round, the Triple Strength Myomer modifier is added before applying
the Supercharger modifier.

Having both is confusing and redundant, so delete one of them to simplify the rules.  I like the wording on the last bullet point the best!

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TO:AU&R, 6th Edition.

pp. 13 (two instances), 218, 219, and 228.
--Replace "MagShot" with "Magshot"
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HEAVY WEAPONS AND EQUIPMENT CONSTRUCTION DATA, page 219:

The "Landing Deck" row has the wrong data under the "Space" columns.  For "M", there should be NA.  For "MS", there should be 1xHX*.

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TO:AUE 4th Edition PDF. (2020)
Page 152 and 224 + 225

Page 152 There's a few issues with this paragraph. Problems
1) The statement for Combat Engineers and Marines makes it seem as if those weights are exclusive to those Infantry types. This is misleading as the base weight for Paramedics and TAG Infantry also vary depending on Motive Type.
2) The weights listed for Foot, Motorized, and Jump Infantry Platoons do not match those currently found in TechManual 6th Edition page 155 which are; Foot 0.085 ton, Motorized 0.195 ton, Jump 0.165 ton.
3) The listed weights of 1.5 for Microlite VTOL and 2 for Microcopter VTOL Infantry are either specifically for Combat Engineers and Marines or could be in conflict with the tables on page 225 where they're listed as +1.4 and +1.9.
4)  while other specializations presume a base weight of 0.1 ton per trooper. This includes other infantry types who's motive type varies. Also, presuming .1 is the old weight for Foot Infantry, the weight is no longer correct.
5) The example used, uses the old TM weights.

Correction 1) page 152
Rewrite the paragragh and page 152, with the updated weights, a set base weight for Microlight and Microcopter Infantry.

Example
The Added Tons value establishes additional weight over and above the base weight per trooper depending on Motive Type chosen (see p. 155, TM, and TO:AUE see p.255). They are reprinted here for your convienience (0.085 ton for Foot, 0.195 for Motorized, 0.165 for Jump, 1 for Hover/Tracked/Wheeled Mechanized, 1.5 for Microlite VTOL and 2 for Microcopter VTOL). If the Motive Type does not vary, use the base weight 0.085 of Foot Infantry. For example, a Motorized Marine Combat Engineer has a per-trooper weight of 0.185 (Motorized) + 0 (Marine) + 0.1 (Combat Engineer) tons, or 0.285 tons for each trooper.

Note:
This removes ambiguity as to which infantry use which weighs. Setting the base weight for VTOL infantry also makes them consistant with TM Infantry Types as Mechanized VTOL Infantry are a base Infantry type. It also eliminates confusion with the listed +1.4 and +1.9 weights on page 255. The base weight of 2/trooper for Microcopter would be consistant with the transport weight of 32 tons found for VTOL Infantry in TRO:3085.

Correction 2) page 255
Replace the weights for Microlite Infantry +1.4/trooper and Microcopter Infantry +1.9/trooper with the new weights Microlite 1.5/trooper and Microcoper 2/trooper.

Correction 3 and 4 ) page 224 and 225
Include a line for SCUBA (Mechanized) It isn't listed in mine and I don't see an errata for it.

Pg 224
Weapon/Item    Type    Damage Value    Range Min/Sht/Med/Lng    To-Hit Modifier    Rules Level    Ref

SCUBA (Mechanized)   PE            NA      NA      NS      Adv
253

Pg 225
Weapon/Item    Tech Base    Tech Rating    Latest Intro Date (IS / Clan)    Cost (C-bills)    WT (kg)    Space

IS / Clan    Var*    Var* / Var*    TCx???   +.9   NA

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p 142, Mobile Field Base entry

Change
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An MFB has no effect during combat, but it provides a number of benefits during repair and salvage operations, which are detailed in Strategic Operations.
to
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*snip* ...which are detailed in Campaign Operations.


Xotl: This reference is now correct in the most recent printing.
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Page 197:
Replace Long Tom, Sniper and Thumper BVs for Clan weapons with BV for IS weapons from page 195
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The advanced support vehicle armor table on page 69 differs heavily from the support vehicle armor table on page 134 of the tech manual. As near as I can tell, it was never errata'ed when the table in Tech Manual was adjusted.

Solution, swap the values listed on page 69 for the corrected values found in Tech Manual on page 134.


Xotl: TM is correct here; TO will be updated if there is an 8th printing.  For now, use the values found in the most recent TM printing.
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p. 223 Supercharger line and footnotes

PROBLEM: Collision of symbols - § symbol is used in the tables on pp. 216-223 both in "Type" column header (with corresponding footnote on p.222) and in "Item / Ammo Cost (C-bills)" column of supercharger entry on p. 223, with corresponding footnote also on p. 223.
RECOMMENDATION: Change the symbol used for Supercharger entry and footnote on p. 223 to something else. Do not change the symbol used for "Type" column instead to avoid potential problems with Additional Alternate Era Weapons and Equipment table on pp. 208-218 IO:AE, where the same symbol is used in the same context.

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TO:AU&E, pdf 4th Printing

I'm hoping this has been corrected in the later printings, but I noticed the page references in the table in the back are still to the OG single volume TacOps.  Fixing that would be a heavy lift, but one that really needs to be done.

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Page 3 of the version 6.0 TO:AUE errata document lists an errata for Field Guns, page 123:

Under “Game Rules”, second paragraph, last sentence
Ultra and Rotary Autocannon Field Guns are immune to jamming or fire control failure effects, and Gauss-based Field Guns are
immune to weapon explosion effects.
Change to:
Field Guns are immune to jamming, fire control failure, and ammunition or weapon explosion effects. All autocannons may use
special ammunition using the appropriate rules, though the entire platoon must use the same ammo type.

Checking my 6th printing PDF, this errata does not appear to have been applied, and should be applied in the next printing.

As a secondary question, is the section stating "the entire platoon must use the same ammo type" intended to apply to a single turn of fire? It would otherwise contradict an earlier line indicating that individual tons of Field Gun ammo may be of various types. If so, the last sentence could be changed to something like "[...] though the entire platoon must use the same ammo type when declaring weapons fire for the turn." to make this clearer.

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p. 224, Arrow IV (Homing) line, Damage Std (Aero) column.

Change the entry to "20** (NA)"

REASON: Arrow IV homing missiles don't always deal 20 damage, and should be treated similarly to Copperhead rounds in the same table (see Arrow IV Homing Missiles on p. 166 and Copperhead Artilery on p. 167 for more details).
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Re: Tactical Operations: Advanced Units & Equipment - 16 March 2022 (v6.0)
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6th printing, pdf, page 225

Top chart, headers, the weight of the BA equipment in the top chart is listed as "WT(Tons)".

Since BA can't mount a 400-ton BA LB-X AC, I suggest the WT be changed to "WT(kg)"

This way BA can mount a 400-kilogram BA LB-X AC


Xotl: This was thought to have been fixed in the previous printing, and so was missed for this one as well.  Noting it for a future printing correction.
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Solution: Change the Tech/Rating entry for Handheld Weapon from D/E-E-F to D/X-X-F.
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Pg 198 - Table for ALTERNATIVE MUNITIONS TABLE

On the table Replace BV Modifier with BV Multiplier.

Update values on table to the following.


Change the asterisk text at the bottom of the table from

Multiplier is applied to each ton of ammunition to find the additional base BV value for the ammunition. For single-shot weapons the multiplier is applied to the weapon itself.

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Multiplier is applied to each ton of ammunition to find the base BV value for the ammunition. For single-shot weapons the multiplier is applied to the weapon itself.
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Location: p. 219

Issue: Handheld Weapon is tagged as having E availability during the Star League and Succession Wars eras, despite debuting in 3055.

Solution: Change the Tech/Rating entry for Handheld Weapon from D/E-E-F to D/X-X-F.


No change needed. Per the fluff on page 127 handheld weapons have been used during the Star League Era. 3055 just saw the most recent use of them.

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Page 213

Issue: The rules for torso-mounted cockpits state that "If the ’Mech’s head is destroyed, excess damage does not transfer to other locations." However this creates room for abuse by putting all ammunition in the head and getting a location that is both difficult to hit and does not risk unit destruction in the event of ammunition explosion.
Suggestion: Add the following sentence: "The sole exception is ammunition stored in the head, which transfer remaining damage to the Center Torso."
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Page 213

Issue: The rules for torso-mounted cockpits state that "If the ’Mech’s head is destroyed, excess damage does not transfer to other locations." However this creates room for abuse by putting all ammunition in the head and getting a location that is both difficult to hit and does not risk unit destruction in the event of ammunition explosion.
Suggestion: Add the following sentence: "The sole exception is ammunition stored in the head, which transfer remaining damage to the Center Torso."

Isn't that inconsistent with how damage transfers in Total Warfare? And why should ammo explosion damage transfer but not headcapping damage?



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Isn't that inconsistent with how damage transfers in Total Warfare? And why should ammo explosion damage transfer but not headcapping damage?

Transfer diagram doesn't send anything from the head (TW p. 123), as most Mechs are Destroyed with head destruction. Clearly the intent was to leave that intact by having head damage not transfer and rerolling subsequent head hits. But ammo explosions are such an extraordinarily violent and dangerous event that being able to hide several tons of ammunition in a location essentially risk free (looking at you LGN-2F and Ostean) is just cheesy and broken. This singular exception remedies this.
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VERSION: TO:AU&E, pdf 4th Printing
LOCATION: p. 118, Energy Storage Batteries info box
THE ERROR: page error; the text points to the wrong page number in Strategic Operations
Quote from: TO:AU&E, p118
When an Energy Storage Battery’s power is delivered via the vessel’s solar sail, normal quick charging rules are followed (see pages 87-88 of Strategic
Operations
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THE CORRECTION: "(see pages 75-76 of Strategic Operations)."

I'm fairly certain that this has not been fixed in later versions, as I have neither seen it reported here nor found it in the Errata V 7.0 pdf. If it has already been reported or fixed, please disregard.
EDIT: I can't believe I put the wrong page number in the correction  :rolleyes:
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VERSION: TO:AU&E, pdf 6th Printing
LOCATION: p. 225
THE ERROR: Battle armor construction data and conventional infantry construction data have their WT units flipped - Battle Armor has its equipment listed in Tons while Conventional Infantry has its equipment listed in kg - this should be reversed so the Battle Armor equipment is listed in kg and conventional infantry should be listed in tons.