Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV

[Colt Ward]

Sure, those 'Mechs awaiting modifications to mount rockets.  ;)

Just think of how many you can put on the Caeser's Sunder with all that Omni-pod space.

[Sartris]

let's just say if you were were the marians and had to build an outfit that was largely home-produced, it would have a lot of rockets       

[Adacas]

Sure, those 'Mechs awaiting modifications to mount rockets.  ;)

No, Thanks, for RL there are already specific mechs for them, the others we use them as they come, except perhaps the RL lovers who will add them because if you just

[Baldur Mekorig]

Personally, i think the RL refits were a product of its time. Basically, they Marians need to add much punch to old introtech mechs, as acess to more advanced technology was dificult at best (without the help of WoB at least).

Now, in the Dark Age, the marians are making such advanced tech (at least things like AIV and Light Ferro). It is my opinion that RL, now, should be mounted were they belong: fast stuff that can unload them at a back of a mech and run away to rearm.

[Sartris]

Personally, i think the RL refits were a product of its time. Basically, they Marians need to add much punch to old introtech mechs, as acess to more advanced technology was dificult at best (without the help of WoB at least).

Now, in the Dark Age, the marians are making such advanced tech (at least things like AIV and Light Ferro). It is my opinion that RL, now, should be mounted were they belong: fast stuff that can unload them at a back of a mech and run away to rearm.

[Weirdo]

So very deeply saddened that we never got access to any of the RL Lightnings. Same with Katyushas.

[Colt Ward]

So very deeply saddened that we never got access to any of the RL Lightnings. Same with Katyushas.

Yeah . . . while the Karnov (RL) is fun, getting a conventional that can disappear in it's own fog bank would be fun.

[Baldur Mekorig]

So very deeply saddened that we never got access to any of the RL Lightnings. Same with Katyushas.

See, both the RL Lightning and RL Karnov are a good use of RL. And if for Katyushas you mean the Katya Ground Assault Craft, we got it from the Periphery General table in the MUL.

[Weirdo]

Wait, we do?!?

Oh happy day!

[Baldur Mekorig]

Wait, we do?!?

Oh happy day!

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4439/katya-ground-assault-craft-c-904

[Turaglas]

There are more than RL mechs on the MUL roster

Thanks.  I think rockets to making up for maintenance costs and lower tech pool is ingenious.  It reminds me of my Armored Core days.

I bought a MAD-4H because it looks good for an old mini and not because of impulse buying.  I'm so green though,  I don't know what else to get in a cohor: tanks, which other mechs, battle armors... I've been asking around but it's hard to gage what to do around it.  Rocket gunships sound cool too.

Also, what's a good way to pick which Legio (besides V) to run?  I know this isn't 40k with army special rules being force optional but I'm still reading up on background and history stuff.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

In a nutshell...

Legio I - elites
Legio II - heavy assault unit
Legio III - disorganized rabble(probably improved by the Dark Age)
Legio IV - mobile rapid reaction
Legio VI - light elements with arty, prefers to divide-and-conquer

There's also the hard-fighting dreaded Cohors Morituri.

[Colt Ward]

Depends what you want to do . . . while the line Legions are fine, you have the Cohors Morituri.  They went from 3 maniples to nearly 6 under Ignatius . . . they are the shock troopers. They were created to give players the Dirty Dozen 'we who are about to die salute you' feel for the MHAF.  Supposedly the death of Ignatius predecessor was all that saved them in the latest Lothian war from being used up since they were given the sharp stinky end of the stick in every assault as they led the way.

[Baldur Mekorig]

Legio III - disorganized rabble(probably improved by the Dark Age)

Actually, III Legio saw a lot of action during the last marian "adventure" (:facepalm:) into the nuFLW. III Legio Prefect´s Kilgore was worth mentioning.

[Turaglas]

In a nutshell...

Legio I - elites
Legio II - heavy assault unit
Legio III - disorganized rabble(probably improved by the Dark Age)
Legio IV - mobile rapid reaction
Legio VI - light elements with arty, prefers to divide-and-conquer

There's also the hard-fighting dreaded Cohors Morituri.

II or III make the most sense for my gaming styles.  III originally caught my attention from the field manual mini rules but we're past that now.  Then again I like both their paint jobs. 

No thanks on the penal legion.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

Actually, III Legio saw a lot of action during the last marian "adventure" (:facepalm:) into the nuFLW. III Legio Prefect´s Kilgore was worth mentioning.

Hence "probably improved a lot by the Dark Age" ;D

If the MHAF had added more Legions after the Jihad, they would be either Comitati or Limitanei for their utility.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

II or III make the most sense for my gaming styles.  III originally caught my attention from the field manual mini rules but we're past that now.  Then again I like both their paint jobs. 

No thanks on the penal legion.

Pre-Jihad, III is the Marian version of Harlock's Warriors.

[Turaglas]

Thank you, I'll read up on them.  Still greener than lawn grass in this setting.

Think I picked what Legio I like but I still have no idea about unit compositions when looking at MUL.  Of course I have all the time in the world tight now so that's fine.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

Have fun playing.

Nova Roma Victor :rockon:

[Adacas]

And so a new Warrior of the MHAF finds his way, the II Legio is probably the best of the MHF followed by the I and IV as it seems, the III Legio in Dark Age specialized in Raids

[Turaglas]

Thanks guys, appreciate the help and welcome.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

I doubt the Tamarind-Canopian offensive can go any further once II Legio is deployed against them in conjunction with local Marian patriots.

[Adacas]

I doubt the Tamarind-Canopian offensive can go any further once II Legio is deployed against them in conjunction with local Marian patriots.

They are extremely over-extended and Canopus fights against Marik taking out many more worlds than the Hegemony could have taken from them, it is a crazy military adventure in Tamarindo leaving its other borders unguarded both with Lira, with the Ex Circinus Frontier than himself. Fluff says that the pirates are attacking that border because there are no Marik troops, the Border with the Wolves without protection, and the idiot of the Duke said that the Hegemony had Liaoite weapons, they are the ones that are taken from Canopus I do not know if the type is it idiotic or is it done

[ArkRoyalRavager]

If Tamarind bleeds itself further and requires neoFWL reinforcements even the Regulans will revolt. Strange that the Duke can justify those Liao weapons as a Marian-Liao relationship. It's common knowledge the Marians raid Canopus and constantly pillage their Liao equipment.

[Adacas]

If Tamarind bleeds itself further and requires neoFWL reinforcements even the Regulans will revolt. Strange that the Duke can justify those Liao weapons as a Marian-Liao relationship. It's common knowledge the Marians raid Canopus and constantly pillage their Liao equipment.

If it's funny that Tamarind plays dumb about the Liao equipment used by the Hegemony, it sounds like a planned excuse to me. Moreover, it would not be strange that he has colluded with the Canopians for this attack, of course I want to think well and that they saw his face and just launched their political-military offensive with Andurien against the FWL

[Turaglas]

If it's funny that Tamarind plays dumb about the Liao equipment used by the Hegemony, it sounds like a planned excuse to me. Moreover, it would not be strange that he has colluded with the Canopians for this attack, of course I want to think well and that they saw his face and just launched their political-military offensive with Andurien against the FWL

I need to re-read SF because it just seems like Canopus is wish washy and doing its own thing... which seems normal.  Where as Tamarind is getting sanctioned and ordered to abandon it's attack of the Hegemony.  It's highly unlikely they'll get major reinforcements to defend its border, and Marik lost his supply lines so now he is going to be entrenched in a Marian province between Legionaires and resistance groups. 

[Adacas]

I need to re-read SF because it just seems like Canopus is wish washy and doing its own thing... which seems normal.  Where as Tamarind is getting sanctioned and ordered to abandon it's attack of the Hegemony.  It's highly unlikely they'll get major reinforcements to defend its border, and Marik lost his supply lines so now he is going to be entrenched in a Marian province between Legionaires and resistance groups.

The entire campaign appears to be written by the Tamarindo propaganda cabinet, the Troops of Marik and Canopus cheered, with little resistance etc etc, in short, according to them nothing is going to happen.

The Marians are ugly, dirty, murderous, retrograde and idiots, that the units have been Elite / Veteran for quite some time and commented on in the previous book as the most hardened and proven of the entire periphery is anecdotal.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

If it's funny that Tamarind plays dumb about the Liao equipment used by the Hegemony, it sounds like a planned excuse to me. Moreover, it would not be strange that he has colluded with the Canopians for this attack, of course I want to think well and that they saw his face and just launched their political-military offensive with Andurien against the FWL

Both Tamarind and Canopus are just being opportunistic.

The entire campaign appears to be written by the Tamarindo propaganda cabinet, the Troops of Marik and Canopus cheered, with little resistance etc etc, in short, according to them nothing is going to happen.

The Marians are ugly, dirty, murderous, retrograde and idiots, that the units have been Elite / Veteran for quite some time and commented on in the previous book as the most hardened and proven of the entire periphery is anecdotal.

What's strange is this. The black-and-white portrayal of this conflict doesn't seem like the usual neutral writing. Fresh Marians are losing to overstretched Tamarind units. Granted, those Tamarind units might have plenty of experience after the Lyran wars but they're not the sort of force that can sustain a conquest.

[Turaglas]

Both Tamarind and Canopus are just being opportunistic.

What's strange is this. The black-and-white portrayal of this conflict doesn't seem like the usual neutral writing. Fresh Marians are losing to overstretched Tamarind units. Granted, those Tamarind units might have plenty of experience after the Lyran wars but they're not the sort of force that can sustain a conquest.

I dunno where the bias is in the writing because I've heard a lot of stuff, I'm still new.

However Field Manual made it seem like the Legions were regularly fighting pirates, VI couldn't keep regular maintenance up from all the fighting.  Legio III was garrisoning worlds that were taken from the FWL a while back and conducting raids into it, which was even a special force rule for them for rats deployment and initiative.  Shattered Fortress comes around and the III can't even manage to stay ahead of Tamarind. 

I can't make heads or tails of it but the more I try to analyze the lack of information, the more bad it looks for everyone involved. 

[Colt Ward]

Both Tamarind and Canopus are just being opportunistic.

What's strange is this. The black-and-white portrayal of this conflict doesn't seem like the usual neutral writing. Fresh Marians are losing to overstretched Tamarind units. Granted, those Tamarind units might have plenty of experience after the Lyran wars but they're not the sort of force that can sustain a conquest.

Overstretched?  Hammerfall ended in '42 or so when Seth Ward dictated terms to Jessika before the Wolves about-faced to take on the Lyrans.  Twice . . . so roughly 8 years of relative peace for the Tamarind forces who also got some of the MSC survivors IIRC.