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Historical Record E/892 - The AEM-01 Dragoon.
« on: 10 September 2014, 02:59:48 »
For all his many faults, Stefan Amaris was a tinkerer and a lover of technology with many broad and sweeping ideas.  Some of which were unworkable or simple flamboyant displays of wealth whilst others had far more practical uses. 

Whilst living on Terra before taking the Throne,  Amaris developed notions for not only modernising the forces of the Rim World Republic but making them more uniform.  This is a very rational approach, with uniform design comes ease of supplying parts if all you need is one type of T&T system for example.  This eases maintenance and supply loads and development costs.  Unable to take this notion any further than a dream before he went from Stefan Amaris to Amaris the Usurper, the idea remained in his mind during his years on Terra.

With the death of the First Lord and the foundation of the Amaris Empire this idea went from thought to reality and Amaris put forward a tender for a mech that would have a universal chassis and be produced in variants all with the same base systems, structure and armour with the main differences being in weapons.  This mech and its variants would replace dozens then in service and bring modern technology into common use in the RWA which it had previously not been able to obtain.

Of the three firms that put forwards designs the winner was the Krupp’s Stellar Technologies conglomerate who put forwards a 70 tonne bipedal design based at least in part on their previous mech the Lancelot. 
The new design would feature the then revolutionary modular systems that had been featured on the Mercury Light Mech, itself a precursor to the now common omni-mech pod system.  This would allow damaged components to be easily swapped out and replaced and the mech would also feature universal mountings and attachment points for all its weapon systems.   

Whilst this aided in development and would be loved by techs working on the machines it was still a far cry from a fully modular system, any reconfiguration of a mechs weapons would still require a trip to a factory or depot. 

Ten tonnes heavier than the Lancelot the design that was to become the Dragoon still had a lot of its predecessor’s sloped armour and hard edges but the standard design was slower, sacrificing speed for more weapons and armour. 

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The 01 Dragoon was powered by a Nissan 280 XL engine, powerful enough to drive it along at the standard heavy mech speed of 64 kph at a run whilst 11.5 tonnes of Panzer Ferro Type 7F Ferro-fibrous armour shielded the machine, giving it far more protection than the older Lancelot.  The potent Krupp-Comm 650 comms system was linked with a Guardian ECM suite to protect the mech from NARC systems and this was to be standard on all of the Dragoon variants.

For armament the 01 relied on paired L/66 LB10X Autocannons fed by three tons of ammo (one of which was buried in the centre torso of the mech.) A Blankenburg ER PPC provided a consistent long range punch whilst eleven double heatsinks helped keep the mech cool.  With its arm mounted weapons the Dragoon had no lower arm actuators allowing it to do the Rifleman's 'trick' of flipping its arms to bring its firepower to bear on its rear arcs.  A trio of jump jets also allowed the mech to leap 90 meters which is useful tactically and allowed for lethal Death From Above attacks.

The 02 Dragoon was quite a different machine, stripping out the jump jets and heavy paired autocannons for an L/48 AC-20, it retained the 01's ER PPC but also featured five Medium Lasers and a Small Pulse Laser for point defence.  This variant also had a far more powerful Nissan 350 XL engine making it a fearsome brawler with a long ranged sting.  The designers were unable to fit any more heatsinks into the design and the 11 double heatsinks would struggle with the heat load of a full alpha.

Design 03 was the fire support machine and whilst based on the standard 01, matching its 64 kph speed it featured a trio of LRM-15's each with their own Artemis IV FCS.  A grand total of six tons of ammo for the launchers was mostly protected in the CASE shielded left torso but a ton of ammo was still sat in the centre torso.  For close in defence a single medium laser and paired medium and small pulse lasers gave the 03 a punch against lighter machines that managed to close.

Design 04 was based once more on the 01 and retained its speed and ER PPC but traded its other weapons for a single Gauss rifle, two medium lasers and a quartet of SRM 4 missile launchers.

Krupp delivered the first prototypes of the 01 in early 2769, the firm had already been looking at developing and fielding a new mech and was well placed when Amaris made his request.  The first production models walked into service with the Fourth Amaris Dragoons.  The new machines would only be deployed  with the elite Dragoon and Guards Regiments but a handful would be given out as 'party favours' to commanders of Mercenary units that had proven their loyalty to Amaris, often through committing war crimes and demonstrating skill in the field.

Even with two dedicated production lines open at Krupp’s for the Dragoon and its variants the mech's output remained low, never reaching the heights of the Lancelot's production levels.  This has been blamed on sabotage, corruption and graft as well as difficulties producing the Dragoons rounded armour as well as retraining the techs on the new machines unique internal layout.  Even so the Dragoon was a nasty surprise for General Alexsandr's forces and those that were in service often went down hard in the battles near and on Terra. 

Post liberation the General ordered all of the surviving examples of the Dragoon to be scrapped and made Krupp’s retool its production lines.  A few dozen survived this purge, but the mech had disappeared by the Second Succession War, the last known one a machine in Steiner service called Dragon Wagon being destroyed during a the fighting on Caledonian in 2849, its hulk salvaged for parts. 

By today’s standards the Dragoon in all its variants is still a capable machine and the dream of standardisation would not be realised even in today’s military’s where dozens of mech designs fulfil the same basic role, omni-mech or standard battlemech.  If left as Emperor it is plausible that Amaris would have eventually standardised the armed forces under his control, a process begun with the Dragoon.




A 01 Dragoon, note the sloped and curved hull armour which clearly harken back to the Lancelot.




Any comments or thoughts are most welcome :)
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Re: Historical Record E/892 - The AEM-01 Dragoon.
« Reply #1 on: 10 September 2014, 04:39:50 »
You know, if anyone gets the stats of this I wouldn't be surprised if an actual OmniMech variant shows up, of course it would probably have to be a Periphery realm building it.

And I wonder what this was supposed to ride to battle on?

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Re: Historical Record E/892 - The AEM-01 Dragoon.
« Reply #2 on: 10 September 2014, 05:43:39 »
Thats a good point, theres never (afaik) a RWA Dropship. But then these things were built on Terra for the defence of said world so I doubt many got off world.

What did you think of the style etc?
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Re: Historical Record E/892 - The AEM-01 Dragoon.
« Reply #3 on: 10 September 2014, 08:59:52 »
You know, if anyone gets the stats of this I wouldn't be surprised if an actual OmniMech variant shows up, of course it would probably have to be a Periphery realm building it.

And I wonder what this was supposed to ride to battle on?

That was the first thing I did when I read it, made an omni version with more modern tech.  ::)
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« Reply #4 on: 10 September 2014, 09:02:06 »
That was the first thing I did when I read it, made an omni version with more modern tech.  ::)

:p Thing is because it crams in so much firepower its really really undersinked and you'll have issues fitting more modern weapons without going OM NOM NOM into the available tonnage.  In reality the Dragoon is a VERY good mech for its time, and even with the older tech it still would not be unwanted in say the Clan invasion period or any time after.

Also what/where do you design the mechs, is there a programme for it?
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Re: Historical Record E/892 - The AEM-01 Dragoon.
« Reply #5 on: 10 September 2014, 09:33:57 »
I've played with the 01 variant some, and it works alright.  Stay away and use your cluster rounds, and giggle at the crits.  I was also thinking, this could have in some way inspired the Summoner, as they're conceptually similar, but just a thought.

Also what/where do you design the mechs, is there a programme for it?

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Re: Historical Record E/892 - The AEM-01 Dragoon.
« Reply #6 on: 10 September 2014, 09:50:05 »
I've played with the 01 variant some, and it works alright.  Stay away and use your cluster rounds, and giggle at the crits.  I was also thinking, this could have in some way inspired the Summoner, as they're conceptually similar, but just a thought.


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« Reply #7 on: 10 September 2014, 09:57:30 »
Oh sure, put that idea into my head well AFTER my only Executioner mini has already been reposed...
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« Reply #8 on: 10 September 2014, 12:23:37 »
Oh sure, put that idea into my head well AFTER my only Executioner mini has already been reposed...

You know, you could always just get another. ;)

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« Reply #9 on: 10 September 2014, 12:28:36 »
You silly people and your...budgets...
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« Reply #10 on: 10 September 2014, 13:15:53 »
You silly people and your...budgets...

What budgets? ???

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« Reply #11 on: 10 September 2014, 13:45:53 »
The ones with room for new minis. :'(
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« Reply #12 on: 10 September 2014, 14:06:20 »
You know, if anyone gets the stats of this I wouldn't be surprised if an actual OmniMech variant shows up, of course it would probably have to be a Periphery realm building it.
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« Reply #13 on: 10 September 2014, 14:13:51 »
  Thanks for the article! Again, it was pretty obvious that with enough time and resources a normal/useful mech would be designed to help RWA. With so much money and resources the chances of a successful project were 100% and the Dragoon shows it. I love the mech because it is one RWR exclusive mech, like the Phoenix and the Rampage, and it is a nice one.

  The 01 is a heavy that can throw 3 ten pointers up to 18 hexes away. There is a short list of inner sphere mechs that can do this in 3145 and none were available at that time. And it can jump, and the twin LBX10 are useful against armor units and.... you get it. The other versions are nice,  too, a good brawler mech, a nice LRM unit, another brawler (with SRMS for different flavor).  I approve this mech.
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« Reply #14 on: 10 September 2014, 16:57:20 »
When I first saw the art and stats I was reminded of the Nova Cat Omnimech.  ;)

Stats, too, what with the 280 XL and jump jets on so many loadouts.  Similar ideas for similar roles.
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« Reply #15 on: 10 September 2014, 18:10:26 »
The best part is that none of the variants are mediocre. Every Dragoon is just as useful as its cousin, but in a different role. These would be just as effective in 3175 ad they would be in 2775.

I've found that the -01 is a great anti-aircraft / Command unit. It protects a wide swath of territory from air attacks and can produce ghost targets with its integral ECM. The jump jets mean it can perform this role in any terrain, which is very helpful since good jumpers are at a premium in the Star League.

The -02 is self-explanatory. A 5/8 brawler with AC/20 can never be useless, since it's one of the few units ever made that could deliver this ungainly weapon with any degree of speed. In 2750, none can match that kind of speed/firepower.

As a support unit, the -03 is darn-near perfect. Pulse protection against fast units, mine spreading all over the place to control the enemy's approach: It does everything right with no drawbacks.

The -04 is a perfect line unit. The Gauss/ER-PPC combo means it out-ranges anything but another Royal-quality unit. The Member States would be out-ranged and out-gunned. This is a fearsome machine. The SRM-4 barrage is great against vehicles which have penetrated your lines.
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« Reply #16 on: 10 September 2014, 19:02:28 »
this was a neat design. its too bad the record sheets for its variients never got stated out canonly. iI`d love to briing this thing to a tourny event, the AC/20 vaariant i mean. ;)

Thia being a tainted design, i guess we would not see the Republic repoducing it for the defense of Teraa.
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« Reply #17 on: 10 September 2014, 19:04:43 »
this was a neat design. its too bad the record sheets for its variients never got stated out canonly. iI`d love to briing this thing to a tourny event, the AC/20 vaariant i mean. ;)

Thia being a tainted design, i guess we would not see the Republic repoducing it for the defense of Teraa.

The designs are self-explanatory after errata. Really easy to make a record sheet from the information given. One of the authors did publish the information, but that thread seems to have disappeared. I requested it again, but after 60 days, I've heard nothing.
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« Reply #18 on: 10 September 2014, 21:27:13 »
now if only someone out on the rim, or somewhere else, stumbled upon a ruined factory and happened to find the schematics for this baby, oooo how awesome would that be? I love this unit. I like to personally combine this with the Rampage to make a truly nasty heavy lance.

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« Reply #19 on: 10 September 2014, 21:46:25 »
now if only someone out on the rim, or somewhere else, stumbled upon a ruined factory and happened to find the schematics for this baby, oooo how awesome would that be? I love this unit. I like to personally combine this with the Rampage to make a truly nasty heavy lance.

Reasonable to assume Krupp might have some hidden, back-up blueprints.
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« Reply #20 on: 11 September 2014, 06:39:47 »
Indeed, whilst the design is in essence a bit dated now, its still pritty darn potent even by modern standards no matter what variant you look at.  I think the only improvement could be to replace the AC-20 with an LB-20 for delicious crit seeking.
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« Reply #21 on: 11 September 2014, 08:08:21 »
Indeed, whilst the design is in essence a bit dated now, its still pritty darn potent even by modern standards no matter what variant you look at.  I think the only improvement could be to replace the AC-20 with an LB-20 for delicious crit seeking.

In the "modern" era, a mixed-tech design would be appropriate. Some kind of Clan weapon, like a HAG/40, Gauss Rifle, or Clan-tech LB-20X would be appropriate. :)
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« Reply #22 on: 11 September 2014, 08:19:32 »
I think though that if you went to the clans and said "Hey we wanna rebuild an Amaris mech design for you.." They would be queuing up to kick you in the teeth.  In their mechs...whilst the Irish dancing music would be firing up for an executioner to do a jig on you once they got bored of grinding you into mush.


The IS though..."Hey we have this 'new' design....wanna buy it?"
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« Reply #23 on: 11 September 2014, 08:31:39 »
I think though that if you went to the clans and said "Hey we wanna rebuild an Amaris mech design for you.." They would be queuing up to kick you in the teeth.  In their mechs...whilst the Irish dancing music would be firing up for an executioner to do a jig on you once they got bored of grinding you into mush.


The IS though..."Hey we have this 'new' design....wanna buy it?"

Why would that be the assumption? They turned the Matar into the Stoned Rhino. They kept the Osteon and Septicemia, despite their association with the Society. Nothing about the Dragoon's origin would keep it from a Touman. It'd probably be RENAMED, but not excluded.
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« Reply #24 on: 11 September 2014, 08:40:32 »
I dunno why, more a personal thing considering that if Kerensky is Clan Bald Russian Jesus then Amaris and co are definately Satan.  But you are right, they did redesign the Matar into the Behemoth and they did keep the Septicimia (and probably other Society tech too) so it does kinda make sense that with a rename they'd accept a Dragoon.
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« Reply #25 on: 11 September 2014, 14:30:48 »
I dunno why, more a personal thing considering that if Kerensky is Clan Bald Russia Jesus then Amaris and co are definately Satan.  But you are right, they did redesign the Matar into the Behemoth and they did keep the Septicimia (and pprobablyrobably other Society tech too) so it does kinda make sense that with a rename they'd accept a Dragoon.

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« Reply #26 on: 11 September 2014, 14:38:47 »
And yet they refused to use the Jackrabbit

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I echo Tigershark's praise of the Dragoon as a battlemech- each variant is still very capable in 3145 which is high praise in an era filled with mixtech machines. The -04 especially, as it has to be one of the best heavy 'mechs in the game.
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« Reply #27 on: 11 September 2014, 14:39:16 »
And yet they refused to use the Jackrabbit

The Jackrabbit had a terrible performance record. It was also an SLDF design which was hijacked by the Amaris regime. So it was far more a symbol of the war than the Dragoon would have been. There really isn't any solid reasoning behind either decision, beyond a spur-of-the moment decision.
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« Reply #28 on: 14 March 2018, 10:30:05 »
now if only someone out on the rim, or somewhere else, stumbled upon a ruined factory and happened to find the schematics for this baby, oooo how awesome would that be? I love this unit. I like to personally combine this with the Rampage to make a truly nasty heavy lance.

It'd be interesting if any of these turned up in the hands of the Green Ghosts.
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« Reply #29 on: 16 March 2018, 12:55:29 »
It wouldn't surprise me. The MUL does list the Dragoon amongst the RWR Home Guard, so they were physically present in that region the Ghosts operate. The Hansa were thought to be using possibly vintage Phoenixes in 3075, so a far newer RWR design cropping up from some secret cache or hidey hole wouldn't be unreasonable.
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"And there never will be," Barton said, nodding his head in agreement.

"You guys are facing a freaking Shadow Division! These guys have strict policies against playing fair!"

"I don’t care. Kill them. I planned the defense so I know it will work. If they claim otherwise, they’re cowards. Any step back is a betrayal of me, and saying they don’t have enough men is just an excuse for incompetence and disloyalty. Tell the Krypteia to do it if you’re too soft but get it done." -Emperor Stefan Ukris Amaris I