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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #30 on: 18 January 2014, 19:08:16 »
Like 100% of modern-tech WarShips(save the BugEye and Aquila), the Vincent uses a fully modern Compact Core, not a Primitive one. The lack of collars is because it doesn't need collars, not because they weren't available. That's like saying a Locust must be primitive because it doesn't mount jump jets.

For more evidence, go look at all the other modern-tech WarShips that don't mount collars because their jobs don't call for them.
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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #31 on: 23 January 2014, 23:48:43 »
  Probably the Mk.1, though I don’t know if that’s ever been nailed down in canon.

  That being said, about ten years(!) ago GiovanniBlasini and Ashenwelt posted some designs from their home-campaign material that used a conceit that I always liked and wished could be adopted into canon: that each Mark of Vincent got its designation not from being a new model in a series, but because each Mark was built by a given shipyard to a locally-chosen variation on the Vincent theme and drew its designation from the yard that produced that Mark.  For instance:
  (‘Ashenwelt System’.  Heh-heh-heh.  :D)
  It’s fanon, so take it with a grain of salt, but nonetheless it’s a fun and flavourful designation-system that I’ve adopted for my own fan-material.

Wow, that takes me back...

Good writeup on the Vincent, Weirdo. Reminds me I have to get started again on the JumpShips once I get over the Yeti Flu.
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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #32 on: 24 January 2014, 04:19:37 »
During the Star League era, was the Vincent actually succeeded by anything in SLDF service?

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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #33 on: 24 January 2014, 04:36:06 »
The Essex?  :D

Actually, not really a joke, as it appears that the Star League never showed much interest in building Corvettes post Vincent. Given the vast numbers of much larger ships they were able to build, they might not have seen a need for something so small.
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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #34 on: 24 January 2014, 07:59:02 »
Not really. They did have a few Makos, but for a completely different mission. Not really any way to improve the Vincent unless you're willing to mass-produce Comm-Scanner Suites, and I'm still hoping for a product that will retcon that into the Vincent itself(Like the Congress and Bonaventure, it was known for a superior sensor suite.)
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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #35 on: 24 January 2014, 08:20:58 »
During the Star League era, was the Vincent actually succeeded by anything in SLDF service?

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Re: WarShip of the Week - Vincent Mk. 39/Mk. 42
« Reply #36 on: 25 November 2023, 22:59:07 »
I just played a MegaMek game against the bot where I had four Vincent Mk. 42 ships against 8 or 10 dropships built from the Draconis Combine RAT circa 3060.  I definitely didn't play the ships to their strengths.

Using the Newtonian movement rules, I started out moving toward the opfor at 2 hexes a turn with my units spreadout evenly in a line, noses pointed toward the enemy.  Since I've read this article, I now realize that I should've had the ships pointed diagonally toward the enemy to take advantage of overlapping firing arcs for the NAC/10s, and use the waypoint launch rules to add firing arc flexibility to the Barracuda launchers in the nose.

That said, my NAC fire was limited and I was whiffing 8s and 10s as the droppers closed.  When they got to medium to short range, they brutalized my Vincents.  I took out a couple dropships, but two of my Vincents lost multiple weapons bays and took crippling CIC and sensor hits, rendering them combat-ineffective.  I didn't lose any ships, but I lost the engagement because of the critical hits the Vincents were taking making them unable to continue fighting.

Now I know that's not the way to play Vincent corvettes :cheesy:
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