Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread IV - READ THE FIRST POST

[nckestrel]

Has any progress been made toward the record sheet project? Will only a limited selection be available or is everything going to be available?

We're not able to provide updates on the new MUL project.  Our team deals with the data, not the technical aspects of the site. The Tuesday Newsday was going to have an update on the new MUL from the digital projects lead, but his appearance was postponed.  I don't know if/when that will be rescheduled.

[pascal]

Duplicate dash in Specials
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7227 Foot Platoon, Marian 3049+ (1/4) (Flamer)

Units with spaces in the Specials (there's probably more)
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7477 BattleMaster C 3
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7550 Ryoken (Stormcrow) T
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7521 Marauder II MAD-6C

Units with lowercase Type/TP (there's probably more)
http://masterunitlist.info/Tools/CustomCard/9538 Shadow Hawk SHD-3H2

Units with /-SPC in the Specials
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/306 Batu B
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/309 Batu Prime

Missing Stats (I think this is expected for some units?)
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/8117 Star Dagger S-2B
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/8119 Transit TR-9
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/8152 Sturmblitz Assault Gun (2500 Upgrade)

Only Named Pilot with Pilot Special Abilities I came cross (probably doesn't matter?)
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7425 Wolfhound (Lucian Finn)

[pascal]

I also noticed that the sort order for Clan mechs is wonky, typically you see unique mechs first, and then the regular ones, with the Prime variant somewhere in the middle...

Assuming the MUL has an SQL database in the backend, something along these lines should fix it:


SELECT * FROM Units
    WHERE Name LIKE "%Dire Wolf%"
    ORDER BY
        Name ASC,
        CASE WHEN Model LIKE "Prime" THEN "1"
             WHEN Model LIKE """%" THEN "3"
             WHEN Model LIKE "(%" THEN "4"
             ELSE "2"
        END ASC,
        Model ASC


This makes some assumptions about schema, so some adaptation will likely be needed.

[Centurian99]

The Alpha Strike stats for the Balius omnimech look...odd.  even taking into account the heat dissipation issues, the damage/OV numbers looks really low.

The prime, B, C, and D look particularly odd. 

[Weirdo]

Hello,
The Union and Mule Pockets WarShip are listed as Extinct after the Jihad, but appear on the following RATs:

Union PWS

FM: 3085 – Former Free Worlds League General, Taurian Concordat
ER: 3145: Former Free Worlds League, Lyran Commonwealth, Taurian Concordat
FM: 3145 - Free Worlds League, Lyran Commonwealth, Mercenary, Taurian Concordat
Tamar Rising - Lyran Commonwealth, Mercenary
Dominions Divided - Taurian Concordat
Empire Alone - Free Worlds League, Duchy of Andurien, Marian Hegemony

Mule PWS

FM: 3085 – Former Free Worlds League General, Taurian Concordat, Periphery, Mercenary
ER: 3145: Former Free Worlds League, Periphery General, Taurian Concordat
FM: 3145 - Free Worlds League, Periphery General, Taurian Concordat
Tamar Rising – Periphery General
Empire Alone - Marian Hegemony
Dominions Divided – Republic of the Sphere, Taurian Concordat

I know that RATs aren't normally considered in the MUL, but that's a LOT, especially for ships that are listed as not existing at all in these eras. Considering how little production information is usually published about space assets and the extreme span of time such vessels can serve as long as they're not actually blown to bits, perhaps an exception might be made for these?

Thanks!

[Sartris]

Their inclusion on RATs would at least preclude extinction

[danilapal]

Unit : Victor C
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3403/victor-c

Problem : In Alpha Strike card this mech has CASE special rule , but not in Record Sheet .
Solution (?) : remove CASE special rule
 
Source (Classic Record sheet) : https://bg.battletech.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Victor_C.pdf
Source (Alpha Strike) :http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Card/3403?skill=4

[Weirdo]

Their inclusion on RATs would at least preclude extinction

Sweet, thanks!

[nckestrel]

Unit : Victor C
Problem : In Alpha Strike card this mech has CASE special rule , but not in Record Sheet .

Thanks, will remove the CASE when we can update the MUL again. (No change to PV).

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

DVS-2 Devastator has an availability for the Early Succession Wars Era (for Clan Smoke Jaguar, no less) despite its introduction date of 3048 in the Late Succession Wars Era.

[mordel]

The Alpha Strike stats for the Balius omnimech look...odd.  even taking into account the heat dissipation issues, the damage/OV numbers looks really low.

The prime, B, C, and D look particularly odd.

The stats look fine based on our calculations. If you'd care to show stats to the contrary, we'd be happy to see them.

[Hellraiser]

DVS-2 Devastator has an availability for the Early Succession Wars Era (for Clan Smoke Jaguar, no less) despite its introduction date of 3048 in the Late Succession Wars Era.

Kerensky had the prototypes with him.
They even made a few more & modified them.

DVS-2-EC
Several Devastators were hand-built by Clan technicians for Operation Klondike. These used Improved Gauss Rifles and carried two more tons of Gauss ammunition (four tons total). Later Clan Wolverine would overhaul the weapons completely, leaving the Improved Gauss Rifles in place (adding CASE to the arms for protection), but trading the PPCs for Enhanced ER PPCs and the medium lasers for ER medium lasers. To handle the massive heat load, twenty Clan-spec double heat sinks were installed. (Note: EC is an abbreviation used by historians to designate "Early Clan" designs.)[11] BV (2.0) = 2,699[12]

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

The DVS-2-EC has it's own separate entry in the MUL.

[ThePPCMightier]

The Jagatai Prime has the ENE ability even though it is armed with an LRM-20. Also potentially questionable; the Jengiz E has one-shot SRMs which may or may not disqualify it from having ENE.