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Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« on: 05 April 2024, 01:32:00 »
Aside from the Shiro, Rokurokubi, and Hitotsume-Kozo, are there any mechs used by the Draconis Combine that make use of Hardened Armor?
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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #1 on: 05 April 2024, 07:38:22 »
Only other one that comes to mind is the Cyclops C.
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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #2 on: 07 April 2024, 09:47:46 »
The Dracs do have some tanks with hardened armor. Von Luckner, Bulldog, Narukami, Demolisher, Schrek. Galleon 106 though don't recall if homebuilt or imported.
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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #3 on: 07 April 2024, 16:59:52 »
Tanks with hardend Armor pay very litte for it and the -2 to all criticals motor or otherwise make it very attractive. For mechs less so . Max armor on a mech with hardened armor is about 40 percent does not leave much left for anything else

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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #4 on: 07 April 2024, 21:22:44 »
Tanks with hardend Armor pay very litte for it and the -2 to all criticals motor or otherwise make it very attractive. For mechs less so . Max armor on a mech with hardened armor is about 40 percent does not leave much left for anything else

I'm pretty sure that hardened armor doesn't do anything for motive system hits.  Those aren't actually 'critical hits' though they are resolved similarly.

That said, the -2 vs criticals is doubly excellent for tanks.  Since they have an integrated crit chance/effect chart, not only is -2 lowering the probability of a crit, it also lowers the severity of any crits received by a LOT, with most instadeath crits taken off the table entirely.

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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #5 on: 07 April 2024, 22:57:28 »
Hardened armour also affects a Mechwarriors piloting and running no similar negatives to a tank.  If I use it I’m more tempted to upgrade my tanks than my mechs.

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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #6 on: 07 April 2024, 23:20:48 »
Hardened armour also affects a Mechwarriors piloting and running no similar negatives to a tank.  If I use it I’m more tempted to upgrade my tanks than my mechs.

There is a +1 Driving Skill for CVs, I believe.
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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #7 on: 08 April 2024, 08:54:50 »
There is a +1 Driving Skill for CVs, I believe.

Good catch I still think Hardened Armour is for the Tanks.  For me at least.

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Re: Draconis Combine mechs with Hardened armor?
« Reply #8 on: 08 April 2024, 09:27:49 »
 Hardened Armor just feels weird for the DCMS, outside of tanks.