Star Trek Attack Wing

[(SMD)MadCow]

I just learned to play this weekend, half watching half participating in a 300 point Borg vs Federation game.
Rules are pretty simple and ots a fun little game to play with my nerdy friends.
One thing I did notice was there was no way to stay stationairy.

Anyone else play?

[I am Belch II]

Im getting into more of the game. Mostly for my love of Star Trek.

[(SMD)MadCow]

Im going to start a Dominion fleet, as the Jem Hadar ships are my favorite. I have no real desire to play Federation until they get more modern ships like the Saber and Akira classes.

[garhkal]

Seeing the price of minitures for this (or the starwars version) its too pricy for me to get into.

[Scotty]

I've played both, and much prefer the Star Wars version.  I agree, the models can be a bit pricey, but when you consider you're fielding (at most) 8 models for the dirt cheapest, swarmiest ships in the game, it's less expensive than it first appears.

[(SMD)MadCow]

What makes the Star Wars one stand out?

[I am Belch II]

Seeing the price of minitures for this (or the starwars version) its too pricy for me to get into.

I didn't like the "mystery box" of minis that came with Star Trek Tactics. The price of the mini is high, but I have done pretty good at finding them at a discount.

[Scotty]

What makes the Star Wars one stand out?

I'm much more familiar with the Star Wars craft and characters, plus the maneuvering is a bit more fluid and 'dogfight-y' where as Attack Wing you're definitely maneuvering capital ships into position.

[(SMD)MadCow]

I just cant get begind the low amount of fighters for Wars, to me it should be 8v8 at least.
With Trek its not far fetched from what we have been show for battles to be 3v3 and that be a sizable engagement...until DS9.

[I am Belch II]

Even the Star Wars Fighters are the same price as the Star Trek ships. Hard to get into both games with the boosters.


Now if they made a Star Wars captial ships game, that would be great.

[Scotty]

8v8 is certainly possible on a big mat with a lot of points on each side.  8v8 in a tournament setting is technically possible but I shudder to imagine having to plot that many dials each turn and being expected to finish a game in an hour and a half.  A lot of the standard X-Wing scale stuff is tournament-related (100 point squad lists, for example), not "you must play like this" oriented.

X-Wing capships are much more impressive than Attack Wing capships. ^-^

[Stormlion1]

Even the Star Wars Fighters are the same price as the Star Trek ships. Hard to get into both games with the boosters.


Now if they made a Star Wars captial ships game, that would be great.

They did make a cap ship game a few years back. It didn't do so well. Blind boxes were to blame primarily and getting a Star Destroyer was just plain expensive. The good part though was the Executor came in the starter set so you started out with the biggest ship more or less in the game.

[garhkal]

I could just imagine an executor to scale with the current minitures.  Would cost a few grand!

[Weirdo]

They did make a cap ship game a few years back. It didn't do so well. Blind boxes were to blame primarily and getting a Star Destroyer was just plain expensive. The good part though was the Executor came in the starter set so you started out with the biggest ship more or less in the game.

The fact that the game system itself set new standards for 'suck' didn't help much.

Seriously, there was NO reason to actually move your capital ships at all. You stayed on your map edge, turned your best firing arc towards the other edge, and rolled dice around until a ship popped or the fighters caught you.

Some nice minis, though. I need to pick up some more on the used market to fill out my Seperatist fleet. That's the only one that even resembles being in scale with my other SW stuff.

As for the current SW game: It looks excellent, but it's not for me. Call me back when the Corellian Corvette is one of the lightest units in the game.

And since this thread is actually about Trek: My only experience with this game has been to pick up a Vorcha and some light Romulan ships for use in Starmada. For just about everything else, it's much easier to find the ships elsewhere, in higher quality and more consistent scale.

[(SMD)MadCow]

Yeah, the Jem Hadar Cruiser is bigger than the Battleship, which is just wrong, and the Cardassian Galor is tiny, smaller than the Defiant. But gameplay doesnt hinge on scale of the ships, so I find the inconsistancy or incorrectness ignorable for the most part.

[Weirdo]

I'd feel the same way, if it wasn't so easy to get them all in the same exact scale.

(Okay, not so much on Romulan stuff, but the D'deridex is so huge that I'm willing to wiggle there.)

[(SMD)MadCow]

I'd feel the same way, if it wasn't so easy to get them all in the same exact scale.

(Okay, not so much on Romulan stuff, but the D'deridex is so huge that I'm willing to wiggle there.)

Yeah, it should be pretty easy to have figured that out, im betting their product designer isnt a Trek fan.

[I am Belch II]

Some ships would be huge and some would be way to tiny. I'm ok with the scales being wrong.

[Weirdo]

Huge and tiny are relative. I have no problem with my Defiants that are barely over 1/2" long right next to a 4-inch-long Galaxy, though I'll admit that I'm looking for slightly larger-scale Birds of Prey, if only for structural reasons. Similarly, I did indeed settle for some D'deridices that are only 6 inches long or so, because foot-long ships are a bit excessive for tabletop play unless we're talking about rare super-ships like the Dominion BB. I'm going straight 1/7000 scale for that.

[garhkal]

Anyone got a link to a site where all these minies are shown?

[I am Belch II]

Huge and tiny are relative. I have no problem with my Defiants that are barely over 1/2" long right next to a 4-inch-long Galaxy, though I'll admit that I'm looking for slightly larger-scale Birds of Prey, if only for structural reasons. Similarly, I did indeed settle for some D'deridices that are only 6 inches long or so, because foot-long ships are a bit excessive for tabletop play unless we're talking about rare super-ships like the Dominion BB. I'm going straight 1/7000 scale for that.

I just got a huge order from Ender for some Dominion Ships. I did get the Dominion BB that thing is a beauty and a beast. But I'm using it as a Dreadnought over just a BB. I just wish I could paint better and dispaly them better. I now even have a Breen Fleet.

[Weirdo]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. My own collection of his stuff(and others like him) is steadily growing. O0

That being said, third-party manufacturers like him are still technically in breach of copyright, so it'd be for the best to refrain from directly discussing them on these forums. [copper] If you want to point people at third-party ships that are of higher quality(and likely lower price) or find for yourself, please use PMs.

[Stormlion1]

I have to ask, are the ships in this game supposed to represent individual ships or ships in a class. Is the Galaxy class ship supposed to be the Enterprise or can it represent the Galaxy, Oddyssy, or some other ship in the class?

[(SMD)MadCow]

Yes. There are named ships like the Enterprise but you can flip its token for a generic ship of the class.
The named ships have an ability and another sheild point but cost more points.

[Stormlion1]

So you get two stats per ship, one for the named ship and one for the other ships in the class. A little paint to wipe out a name and you can have any ship you want essentially. Cool, I like that.

[I am Belch II]

So you get two stats per ship, one for the named ship and one for the other ships in the class. A little paint to wipe out a name and you can have any ship you want essentially. Cool, I like that.

You get a bunch of extras in the booster box.  Some of the extras are pretty neat.

[TonUp]

Out of curiosity: Does this game use a similar play style to Wings of War: Famous Aces?

[(SMD)MadCow]

From what I understand its almost a strait copy of the Star Wars Attack Wing, just with big ships instead of fighter craft.
Havnet played wings of war.

[HikageMaru]

I have both Star Trek Attack Wing and Star Wars X-Wing Miniatures. The rules are almost the same, but there are some shades of difference and I prefer the Star Trek Attack Wing rules. However, I almost never play it. I much rather play X-Wing Miniatures (and I own every miniatures that they've released, including the newer capital ships). The Star Trek Attack Wing miniatures are not of good quality, their paint jobs are terrible, and their scaling is inconsistent. However, they are hardy (you can drop them and they won't break, unlike the Star Wars X-Wing Miniatures).

So I generally play Star Trek Attack Wing with my kids (because they can't break them), but play Star Wars X-Wing Miniatures with my friends.

[mdauben]

I never got into the Attack Wing game becuase I've played Star Fleet Battles for years to get my Star Trek gaming needs.  I do like the X-Wing game, though.  Plus I'm not impressed with the quality of the miniatures for Attack Wing.  They seem significantly inferior to the X-Wing ships.    :(