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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread
« Reply #60 on: 24 November 2019, 11:38:52 »
I never thought I'd ever see a full Mando jetpack assault on live action TV. Stuff of early 00s fan dreams, man.

Me neither. But here we are ... and we are happy.
And they did it without an overuse of CGI or colorful lights. It just looks dirty, as it should.
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread
« Reply #61 on: 24 November 2019, 12:21:42 »
When I watched it the 3rd episode... although they talked like he was getting a curiass when he walked out after getting his upgrade, it looked to me like pretty much all his plates had been replaced.

now its possible that he only has bescar as helm, right shoulder, and torso with the rest of the suit being basic alloy but he did say that the integrity of his armor was compromised and he needed to start over.

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« Reply #62 on: 24 November 2019, 21:36:06 »
Great episode!

Now I really want to know exactly how the magical locater fob works, otherwise someone will always be able to track the child.

And while they're doing a phenomenal job with their shoestring budget, but to blatantly reuse this shot from the first episode:



All they did was add the cradle for this episode. There was another shot of the landing field reused, with all the same ships in all the same places.

That might have worked in the 80s for Battlestar Galactia and Buck Rodgers where a limited number of effect shots were reused ad nauseum, but in this day and age people notice that shit.
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« Reply #63 on: 24 November 2019, 22:20:51 »
Great stuff so far, although I wasn’t sure that first block of beskar was enough to make that pauldron. The second batch was more than enough to make the cuirass, but it looked like he got at least the other pauldron from the deal as well?
He got the full curiass.. chestplate, the other pauldron, and greaves. but given that we were told that the one ingot would have enough left to "sponsor several foundlings" (presumably making at least one piece of armor for them) i think it is safe to assume that the two dozen or so he brought in would allow for the full armor suit as well as more than enough to kit out other members of the tribe.
it is likely that the armor peices are not solid blocks of metal, but more involved. as i mentioned before, it is likely that the Beskar is either mixed with other materials, or based on the look at his (non-beskar) chestplate in ep2, are a layer of beskar over various technological systems. presumably some of these would be stuff that would increase the armor's protective nature.

given the way ep3 ended, i wonder if the series will end with Baby Yoda becoming a Mandalorian Foundling. which would be an interesting dynamic. a mando-jedi yoda

that said, it is interesting that the 'mando-with-no-name' claimed the kill wasn't a clean one because "an enemy helped".. since the one who helped was the child. i'm guessing this is meant to be a reference to the way most mandalorians don't like Jedi (though the canon version of this is less vehement than the old legends version), even though the child is not technically a jedi, but rather just a force user. jedi being a specific tradition of force user that requires training and introduction to specific culture and traditions.

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« Reply #64 on: 24 November 2019, 22:59:07 »
I think it's less about the child being a force user, and more about the child being his target.
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread
« Reply #65 on: 24 November 2019, 23:43:21 »
Yeah, how he described it was the understatement of the century; help from anyone would diminish the honour of a kill, never mind help from an infant unwitting target who didn't know it was about to be, well, betrayed

He did look like he had the full suit. If the down payment could pay for a pauldron, the bucket does look like it could have gone the whole way. Though now we know how much beskar it takes to make a full suit

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« Reply #66 on: 25 November 2019, 16:32:40 »
He did look like he had the full suit. If the down payment could pay for a pauldron, the bucket does look like it could have gone the whole way. Though now we know how much beskar it takes to make a full suit
again though, if one bar was enough to make one pauldron plus a bunch extra to "sponsor many foundlings", he probably didn't need the full twenty in the case to get one pauldron, two chest pieces, and two greaves.


honestly, given the previous pauldron, that load of metal probably is enough for multiple full suits. which might well be why the rest fo the clan had so much interest in it, and was concerned with where it came from.

also i suspect that "the great purge" is a connection to Rebels.. in SW:Rebels mandalore doesn't seem to have been hurt too badly by the Empire. they've had a leader appointed to them and the clans aren't happy with it, but they don't seem to be roughing up and cracking down on the general populace like we see in places like Lothal. and then in the course of the show we get the little uprising sparked by Sabine.. who got her own family (and others in her clan) to support her in fighting the Empire, then triggered off an even larger general uprising by giving Bo Katan both victories and a symbol to unify the clans.

and you can bet that the Empire would really hit that uprising hard. i suspect this is "the great purge'. the Empire trying to wipe out the mandalorians because they rose up in a general rebellion.



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« Reply #67 on: 25 November 2019, 17:47:24 »
Hilarious link, spoilers be damned!  :thumbsup:

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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread
« Reply #68 on: 25 November 2019, 22:07:46 »
Sponsoring the foundlings could mean just paying their food and board. That's how I'm reading it right now.

Granted the Mandalorians will want to keep the beskar within the community, so it is highly unlikely they will sell the beskar for food. But it could serve to pay other Mandos to provide food.

Edit: On the other hand - what if they truly are stockpiling beskar for the next generation of Mando warriors. That's... that's really something.
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« Reply #69 on: 25 November 2019, 22:48:50 »
Anyone watch Babylon 5, way back then?

Remember the arguments about "arc" and "non-arc" episodes?

Only to discover that there were only "arc" episodes, just some connections only worked years later?

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« Reply #70 on: 25 November 2019, 23:10:36 »
I've actually recently been re-watching a bunch of Babylon 5 recently, so yes.

So yeah I'm already seeing stuff from the second chapter paying off in chapter 3 so I won't be terribly surprised if more is paid off later.

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« Reply #71 on: 26 November 2019, 02:35:56 »
Anyone watch Babylon 5, way back then?

Remember the arguments about "arc" and "non-arc" episodes?

Only to discover that there were only "arc" episodes, just some connections only worked years later?

(Except "Grey 17 is missing". **** that episode.)

Great show loved it I'd love them to redo CGI really well but its part of show I guess
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« Reply #72 on: 26 November 2019, 03:32:26 »
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« Reply #73 on: 26 November 2019, 10:07:06 »
And this 6" Black Series figure is coming exclusively to Best Buy next month:



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« Reply #74 on: 26 November 2019, 18:11:27 »
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« Reply #75 on: 26 November 2019, 20:24:18 »
Someone is a major Aliens fan.

Or Predator.

Or Terminator.

Pretty sure there were other shows with handheld miniguns. Of course, they already had laser miniguns in Star Wars before this.

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« Reply #76 on: 26 November 2019, 20:38:26 »
Pretty sure there were other shows with handheld miniguns. Of course, they already had laser miniguns in Star Wars before this.
Not quite like this - notice the harness connecting the gun to his waist, as well as the specific upper-left grip style, and the MG-42 charging handle mounted on the side - or for that matter the MG-42 barrel, barrel shroud, and receiver front between the handle and the tribarrel setup.   That's what says M56 Smartgun rather than the other things.

So has that shown up in the show yet and does it actually fire like a rotary barrel or is it fixed and just three barrels firing independently?
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« Reply #77 on: 27 November 2019, 03:13:27 »
So has that shown up in the show yet and does it actually fire like a rotary barrel or is it fixed and just three barrels firing independently?

Yes, it has. The barrels don't rotate. It's actually hard to tell if the blaster bolts are even coming from each barrel, the VFX aren't that clear.

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« Reply #78 on: 27 November 2019, 03:34:52 »
Not quite like this - notice the harness connecting the gun to his waist, as well as the specific upper-left grip style, and the MG-42 charging handle mounted on the side - or for that matter the MG-42 barrel, barrel shroud, and receiver front between the handle and the tribarrel setup.   That's what says M56 Smartgun rather than the other things.

Doesn't take a props genius by now to know that if you want the gritty Star Wars look, you dig up some WW2 guns and mod them

Or further back. The Mandalorian's blaster is a Bergmann 1894 apparently.

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« Reply #79 on: 27 November 2019, 10:34:12 »
The big rifle things the Stormtroopers use in ANH are either MG-34s or Lewis machine guns without the drum magazine. The Stormtrooper blasters are of course Sterling SMGs. Han Solo's blaster is a Mauser C-96 pistol, suitably modded. Star Wars has a long, long history with using real firearms as props.

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« Reply #80 on: 27 November 2019, 12:35:03 »
I believe he's talking more about the less obvious resemblance to the Aliens M56 Smartgun. And it does resemble it a lot, for more than just the MG42 parts, e.g. the steadycam-type mount.

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« Reply #81 on: 28 November 2019, 06:30:30 »
I just think it's neat that a show like this can be popular with very little talking from the main actor
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« Reply #82 on: 28 November 2019, 07:24:35 »
I just think it's neat that a show like this can be popular with very little talking from the main actor

Aye and that he convey's his emotions very well with little tilts of his head and looks. Its very well done.
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« Reply #83 on: 29 November 2019, 07:13:21 »
Episode 4: live action (well, kinda) Tooka!

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« Reply #84 on: 29 November 2019, 08:42:59 »
I really enjoyed Ep 3 and 4, I think this one is a bit of a winner.

Aye and that he convey's his emotions very well with little tilts of his head and looks. Its very well done.

Pedro Pascal does an amazing job of displaying his emotions, even without facial expressions or words. His performance puts me in mind of Hugo Weaving in V for Vendetta, but less reliant on words.

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« Reply #86 on: 29 November 2019, 13:09:06 »
I really enjoyed Ep 3 and 4, I think this one is a bit of a winner.

Pedro Pascal does an amazing job of displaying his emotions, even without facial expressions or words. His performance puts me in mind of Hugo Weaving in V for Vendetta, but less reliant on words.

Well less flowery words :) V was very good (never read the graphic novel) but yeah I get what ya mean, with V he was very vocal but Mando's said I think 5 - 15 words as his longest sentence? Everything's done for emoting with his body language. But it still comes across so very well :)
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« Reply #87 on: 30 November 2019, 03:15:34 »
Okay this episode I will say was a borderline case for if it was a waste or not.

The Mandalorian really should have known he couldn't leave the child there or that he would be able to lay low for long.

Hell he really should be checking his ship for trackers or even ditching it all together.

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« Reply #88 on: 30 November 2019, 05:30:04 »
Okay this episode I will say was a borderline case for if it was a waste or not.

The Mandalorian really should have known he couldn't leave the child there or that he would be able to lay low for long.

Hell he really should be checking his ship for trackers or even ditching it all together.

I get the feeling that the tracker is pure handwavium, it's a plot device to keep the two of them together.

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« Reply #89 on: 30 November 2019, 08:49:04 »
I get the feeling that the tracker is pure handwavium, it's a plot device to keep the two of them together.

Yeah.....but the action delivers and the characters are JUST interesting enough for suspension of disbelief to kick in on that point.

And is it just me, or has Gina Carano gotten thicc af now that she's not cutting weight for UFC? I think she's perfectly cast as a retired "Rebel shocktrooper": "I may have relaxed my physical standards but I will still crush you."