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Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« on: 27 November 2020, 14:31:16 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental.

Product Link: https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-battle-of-tukayyid-supplemental

There is no compiled errata for this product at this time.

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« Last Edit: 27 November 2020, 14:54:29 by Xotl »
3028-3057 Random Assignment Tables -
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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #1 on: 27 November 2020, 15:35:16 »
Page 202, Gargoyle Prime/A/B/D Record Sheet

-Replace "Ferro-Fibrous" in Left/Right leg with "Roll Again".
-Replace uppermost "Roll Again" slot in Left/Right arm with "Ferro-Fibrous".

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Page 22, Bloody Basin Pass Attackers

-Replace Trinary Delta with Binary Delta.

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Page 64, 13th Wolf Guards, Trinary Delta

-Replace Trinary Delta with Binary Delta.
-Remove Wolf Assault Star from formation.
« Last Edit: 10 February 2021, 09:27:30 by GreekFire »
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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2020, 13:47:36 »
Page 1, under Record Sheets

-Change credits to the following:
Dave Nawton
Étienne Charron-Willard
Johannes Heidler
Carl Spain
Matt Wilsbacher

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Page 9, Light 'Mechs

-Add "(Diamond Shark)" next to the Piranha

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Page 8, Medium 'Mechs
Remove Phantom
-Add Pouncer Prime, A, B, C, D (Wolf)
« Last Edit: 30 November 2020, 09:16:04 by nckestrel »
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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2020, 19:08:05 »
PDF

Page 9, Heavy 'Mechs
Assault Star Table
Mad Dog D
change to
Mad Dog B

Striker Star Table
Hellbringer C
change to
Hellbringer A

Page 9, Assault 'Mechs
Battle Star Table

Warhawk D
change to
Warhawk A

(DEV edits to finalize errata)
« Last Edit: 30 November 2020, 09:15:20 by nckestrel »

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #4 on: 01 December 2020, 08:51:50 »
p. 13, Heavy 'Mechs
Add
CRD-3R Crusader
CRD-2R Crusader (with rare note)
GLT-3N Guillotine
« Last Edit: 17 September 2021, 11:17:38 by nckestrel »
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Left of Center blog - Tukayyid Expanded Random Unit Tables, Nashira Campaign for A Game of Armored Combat, TP 3039 Vega Supplemental Record Sheets

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #5 on: 05 December 2020, 18:40:35 »
PDF

p. 8, Medium Mechs:
"Grendel" should be "Mongrel"

p. 12, Medium Mechs:
Delete duplicate "CN9-A Centurion" listing

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #6 on: 17 December 2020, 13:07:56 »
Shadow Hawk C record sheet
-Remove CASE from Left and Right torsos
-Change BV to 1309

Rifleman C record sheet
-Remove CASE from Center Torso

Archer C record sheet
-Remove CASE from Left and Right Torso
-Change BV to 1811

Warhammer C record sheet
-Remove CASE from Right Torso
-Change BV to 1728

Victor C record sheet
-Remove CASE from Left Torso and Right Arm
-Change BV to 1925
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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #7 on: 22 December 2020, 11:52:47 »
E-CAT35S003_BattleTech Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental.pdf
28/11/2020
Page 10, Heavy Mechs:
"FLS-7K"
change to
"FLS-8K"

Add
"CHP-1N Champion (Jade Falcon, Wolf)"
"WHM-7A Warhammer (Jade Falcon)"

DEV edits
« Last Edit: 23 December 2020, 10:11:50 by nckestrel »

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #8 on: 15 June 2021, 14:06:33 »
IGNORE
Under assumption that Clan CASE is not supposed to be fitted to most C models, following GreekFire's example earlier:

Page 229, Atlas C record sheet:
Remove CASE from left and right torso
Adjust BV to 2232
« Last Edit: 15 June 2021, 15:06:57 by Empyrus »

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #9 on: 15 June 2021, 14:55:16 »
Under assumption that Clan CASE is not supposed to be fitted to most C models, following GreekFire's example earlier:

Page 229, Atlas C record sheet:
Remove CASE from left and right torso
Adjust BV to 2232

Not errata. CASE remains per post here: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/errata/record-sheets-3050-upgrade-unabridged/msg1670146/#msg1670146
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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #10 on: 07 October 2021, 11:33:42 »
Under assumption that Clan CASE is not supposed to be fitted to most C models, following GreekFire's example earlier:

Page 229, Atlas C record sheet:
Remove CASE from left and right torso
Adjust BV to 2232
Not errata. CASE remains per post here: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/errata/record-sheets-3050-upgrade-unabridged/msg1670146/#msg1670146

Wait - since when did Inner Sphere-based chassis be able to mount Clan-grade CASE with no tonnage or critical space requirement? TM p210 does not allow for this, thus the Atlas C described in the link here violates construction rules. As well as violating common sense - Clan-based mechs have CASE built-in to their frames but IS mechs do not: as a refit of an IS mech it would not magically gain the benefit of advanced Clan manufacturing techniques. Both BoT Supplemental and the RS:3050UU-IS errata are in error. If CASE is to be added it must follow the Inner Sphere construction rules, and that means one of the three heat sinks in the left torso must be lost to provide tonnage and critical space for it.

However, Battle of Twycross sourcebook page 49 describes the Atlas C changes (from AS7-D) as not having CASE of any kind. Thus, the RS:3055UU-IS errata and BoT Supplemental, if they should have CASE, are effectively introducing a second C model - with the Twycross model retroactively becoming C 2 unless errata is to be issued for that product as well to specify addition of CASE. I'm not sure that's the intent. Empyrus's "assumption" exactly matches to what FASA originally wrote 31 years ago. I don't believe his comments should be ignored/struck-through, but restored as valid errata, and the linked RS:3050UU errata is ignored/struck-through instead as its an illegal design.

Per Battle of Twycross, the only C model from that source that mounts CASE should be the Marauder C (page 48)


However, we didn't have a record sheet for Marauder C until BoT Supplemental (not that I'm aware of anyhow), and its got the same problem. The record sheet data sums to 75.5 tons when proper Inner Sphere-grade CASE is added.

Marauder C record sheet, page 185 actual (sheet 186 of 310 of PDF):
Recommendation: Remove the Heat Sink from the Center Torso. Add CASE to critical space in Left Torso. Mech remains half ton underweight. (Probably means BV comes down a bit due to less heat efficiency, too.)

I suppose something could be done with the armor as well, but as none of the other Clan Invasion IS-refit Cs adjust armor, this was the solution my group had used (though I'm sure we had a different idea on where to place the extra heat sinks)

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #11 on: 07 October 2021, 11:54:09 »
Wait - since when did Inner Sphere-based chassis be able to mount Clan-grade CASE with no tonnage or critical space requirement?

Please put posts like this in the errata discussion thread. I will answer this question for you there: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/errata/errata-discussion-thread/1110/

Marauder C record sheet, page 185 actual (sheet 186 of 310 of PDF):
Recommendation: Remove the Heat Sink from the Center Torso. Add CASE to critical space in Left Torso. Mech remains half ton underweight. (Probably means BV comes down a bit due to less heat efficiency, too.)

Not errata.
« Last Edit: 07 October 2021, 11:57:40 by GreekFire »
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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #12 on: 05 November 2021, 11:21:16 »
Page 202, Gargoyle C Record Sheet
Though correct for gameplay purposes, for consistency with other sheets as per reply #1

-Replace "Ferro-Fibrous" in Left Leg with "Roll Again".
-Replace lowest "Ferro-Fibrous" slot  in Right Torso with "Roll Again"
-Replace uppermost "Roll Again" slot in Left/Right arm with "Ferro-Fibrous".

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #13 on: 14 February 2022, 13:01:48 »
Pg. 12 - ComStar's Medium Mech Availability Table

The CN9-A Centurion is listed twice.

- Remove bullet #5, CN9-A Centurion
« Last Edit: 14 February 2022, 13:09:42 by Com Guard Precentor »

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #14 on: 14 October 2022, 01:03:59 »
* VERSION: PDF.
* LOCATION: Page 12.
* THE ERROR: Trebuchet is listed in the Medium Fire Level II, but not in the list of mechs available to Comstar.
* THE CORRECTION: Trebuchet should be added to list of available mechs if available OR replaced in the Fire II chart with another mech (I assume with information from the MLU that Comstar has them available, so the former action probably needs to be taken).

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Re: Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental
« Reply #15 on: 06 March 2024, 20:40:37 »
Page 181
"Zeta Galaxy fields their machines in appropriate camouflage."

Issue: that's not their scheme

Suggested correction:
"With a parade scheme of bright silver, Zeta Galaxy chose to field their machines on Tukayyid in appropriate camouflage."

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