The *literally* Never-Seen

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

As the fluff of the Demolitionmech describes it as being slower but cheaper than its competition, the 'Zilla can be surmised to be using a fusion engine instead of a fuel cell.

[beachhead1985]

Another one from TRO:3075 mentioned in the fluff of the DemolitionMech. A competitor if the industrialmech made by Defiance industries named the 'Zilla.

Thank you! That's good thinking!

[God and Davion]

I have a new one (at least it is not featured in the page 1 list). The Screamer. A "Doomsday" Mech designed for Kerensky. It is mentioned in the fluff of the Rifleman III (XTRO:Gunslingers).

[SteelRaven]

I have a new one (at least it is not featured in the page 1 list). The Screamer. A "Doomsday" Mech designed for Kerensky. It is mentioned in the fluff of the Rifleman III (XTRO:Gunslingers).

Liberation of Terra Vol 2. Far from a Doomsday Machine but developed at the same time as the Rifleman III and Martar as Amaris demanded a wonder weapon that would destroy Kerensky. 
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Screamer

[God and Davion]

Liberation of Terra Vol 2. Far from a Doomsday Machine but developed at the same time as the Rifleman III and Martar as Amaris demanded a wonder weapon that would destroy Kerensky. 
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Screamer

Ouch. I forgot that one. My dreams are shattered.  :'( :'( :'(

Nice LAM, BTW

[Wolf72]

*pats G&D on shoulder*

Cheer up! you have an allotment of dreams that have not been used up ... unless you post a lot and get shot down, the club for that has free membership! No experience needed either!

[Wrangler]

Not sure it counts, but the Explorer Jumpship has two variants with no record Sheets. Their a HPG variant and the Sub capital Weapon Variant.

[beachhead1985]

Not sure it coubts but the. Explorer. Jumpship has two variants wirh no record. Sheets.  HPG variant and the Sub capital Weapon Variant.

Where are those found?

They ring a bell, but I just haven't been able to find the time to round up all the old/new/new/old/new/new/new, ect entries.

[Wrangler]

Where are those found?

They ring a bell, but I just haven't been able to find the time to round up all the old/new/new/old/new/new/new, ect entries.

TRO3075 Helm memory core section for the Mariks. MUL also lists them.

[beachhead1985]

TRO3075 Helm memory core section for the Mariks. MUL also lists them.

Perfect then! I will add those.

[Wrangler]

Was the fireboats from the Reunification War sourcebook (also in The Periphery) mention? They were used by the Taurians to crash into Warships to kill them. We never got stats or get information what they looked like.  They may have been stocked small craft or maybe have been cobble together ships.  They were mentioned in better detail in Historical Reunification book.

[beachhead1985]

Was the fireboats from the Reunification War sourcebook (also in The Periphery) mention? They were used by the Taurians to crash into Warships to kill them. We never got stats or get information what they looked like.  They may have been stocked small craft or maybe have been cobble together ships.  They were mentioned in better detail in Historical Reunification book.

I am sure we never got stats for them. Let me see what is said.

Okay; cracked my copy open and I find lost of mentions, but no stats. if i was to guess; you'd be taking common cargo dropships of the era, re-designing them so that much of their cargo space is discard to make them lighter (and thus faster) and adding in either a number of boobytraps or a single custom-make nuke.

I'll make an addition.

[beachhead1985]

Opens up TRO: Golden Century...

[beachhead1985]

Dang! What a rush crossing a few of these out! Rock on TPTB!

Also added the Jupiter Variant from Sword of Sedition, as noted by Templar87.

[GreekFire]

Speaking of crossing some off the list, here are a couple you missed:

Awesome -11H (recguide 4)
Clan Rhino BA (it was on the list twice)
Fox (goldcent)
Griffin C (recguide 1)
Goliath C (recguide 1)
Minsk (goldcent)
Ogotai (goldcent)
Qasar (goldcent)
Vision Quest (goldcent)

In exchange, I offer you the Royal Valkyrie, mentioned in the write-up for the Masauwu's notable pilot.

[beachhead1985]

Speaking of crossing some off the list, here are a couple you missed:

Awesome -11H (recguide 4)
Clan Rhino BA (it was on the list twice)
Fox (goldcent)
Griffin C (recguide 1)
Goliath C (recguide 1)
Minsk (goldcent)
Ogotai (goldcent)
Qasar (goldcent)
Vision Quest (goldcent)

In exchange, I offer you the Royal Valkyrie, mentioned in the write-up for the Masauwu's notable pilot.

Done and Done!

[Maingunnery]

Opens up TRO: Golden Century...

WATER ELEMENTAL MINING SUIT = Aquatic Clan Exoskeleton; Elemental precursor
 ;)

[beachhead1985]

WATER ELEMENTAL MINING SUIT = Aquatic Clan Exoskeleton; Elemental precursor
 ;)

I named it something else in the list, under the presumption that there were others. But yeah; crossed off now.

:)

Feels so good!!

[Wolf72]

Just thought TRO GC would have been a perfect opportunity for the HBK-2, too.  The idea of a standard tech dual AC-20 HBK is tantalizing, have designed my own, but that's not the same as the PTB making one and putting in some very cool fluff. Especially using improved ACs from original TRO 3050 and IO.

[beachhead1985]

Just thought TRO GC would have been a perfect opportunity for the HBK-2, too.  The idea of a standard tech dual AC-20 HBK is tantalizing, have designed my own, but that's not the same as the PTB making one and putting in some very cool fluff. Especially using improved ACs from original TRO 3050 and IO.

How could I forget that one!?

From the original entry, I was never sure if it had dual AC/20s or just a pair of lighter dual autocannon.

However, I was always pretty sure it was definitively an SLDF-design, if a very late one.

I will check and add that one though.

[Talen5000]

How could I forget that one!?

From the original entry, I was never sure if it had dual AC/20s or just a pair of lighter dual autocannon.

However, I was always pretty sure it was definitively an SLDF-design, if a very late one.

I will check and add that one though.

It had a single AC-20, and no Jump Jets.

As the SLDF use the HBK-4G, it might be that the HBK is functionally identical to that variant.

[Sartris]

out of curiosity, where do we get any info on the HBK-2's loadout? the only reference i know of is the original TRO:3058

[Talen5000]

out of curiosity, where do we get any info on the HBK-2's loadout? the only reference i know of is the original TRO:3058

There.

Based upon the text the Clans added a second Autocannon to take advantage of the smaller components,  and also added jump jets. Therefore, although the IIC was based upon the HBK-2, the HBK-2 had no jump jets,and only a single class 20 AC.

"Initial hardware assessments...allowing the installation of two rapid-fire autocannons rather than a single AC-20. The higher tech also allows room for the installation of jump jets..."

There is also the initial description...the HBK-2 is a basic design that has remained largely unchanged since its inception.

You could argue that it doesn't specifically give the info, but the text seems clear to me

[Wolf72]

I thought you had the HBK-2 in the list from very early on.

"two rapid-fire" could lead one to believe that means UACs over standard ACs.  I mean they're all rapid fire, the newer ones are just rapid-er fire, or ultra-rapid fire.

[Wrangler]

I just realized something. The Fluff for the Hunchback IIC mentions that captured units by Inner sphere forces were modified, namely one of the Ultra A/C 20s was removed for more armor among unspecified changes made to make the usable non suicidal units. I don't think i have ever seen a record sheets for the modded / refitted Hunchback IICs.

[Talen5000]

I thought you had the HBK-2 in the list from very early on.

"two rapid-fire" could lead one to believe that means UACs over standard ACs.  I mean they're all rapid fire, the newer ones are just rapid-er fire, or ultra-rapid fire.

Two rapid fire ACs could indeed refer to the ultra class which equips the IIC. However, the two replaced a single AC20.

[beachhead1985]

I just realized something. The Fluff for the Hunchback IIC mentions that captured units by Inner sphere forces were modified, namely one of the Ultra A/C 20s was removed for more armor among unspecified changes made to make the usable non suicidal units. I don't think i have ever seen a record sheets for the modded / refitted Hunchback IICs.

Dang! You're totally right!

And I think you guys all have a good argument for ambiguity in the HBK-2's configuration as well; so I will make those changes.

[Wolf72]

Two rapid fire ACs could indeed refer to the ultra class which equips the IIC. However, the two replaced a single AC20.

*handwavium x10*!!

[Wrangler]

I think i spotted a new unit in Honour's Gauntlet novella. The defending civilians among argo and mining mechs had a Quad CargoMech which appears to be fitted with ram plates like the Rhino from Operational Turning Points Hanaseatic Crusade.  It was being used to ram a larger Clan assault mech and show no signs of damage after plowing through buildings. Size was not very specific buit seem to be medium or large CargoMech. It very well be a Uni CargoMech but ramming seemed unusual way it was being described as being not damaged as much it should be. The author was vague about that.

[beachhead1985]

I think i spotted a new unit in Honour's Gauntlet novella. The defending civilians among argo and mining mechs had a Quad CargoMech which appears to be fitted with ram plates like the Rhino from Operational Turning Points Hanaseatic Crusade.  It was being used to ram a larger Clan assault mech and show no signs of damage after plowing through buildings. Size was not very specific buit seem to be medium or large CargoMech. It very well be a Uni CargoMech but ramming seemed unusual way it was being described as being not damaged as much it should be. The author was vague about that.

That sounds like a one-off to me with that info. However; I will list it in the Mech-It Lube