RFP: 3025 light Vee w Sniper Arty

[Andras]

Merc Regiment requesting designs for a 50t or lighter vehicle with a Sniper Arty piece. Movement prioritized over armor, and at least 3t ammo please w 3025 tech

If you are using SAW, just use a 23t cargo compartment since there no arty yet.

Thanks for your proposals.

[Taron Storm]

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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Whitefeather SAP-H1
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          50 tons
Power Plant:   115 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed:  75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  1 Sniper Artillery
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Whitefeather SAP-H1
Mass:          50 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  25 pts Standard               0      5.00
Engine:        115 I.C.E.                    0     10.00
    Cruise MP:   7
     Flank MP:  11
Heat Sinks:      0 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      2.50
Crew: 4 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      5.00
Turret Equipment:                            0      2.00
Armor Factor:   40 pts Standard              0      2.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     5          8
   Left / Right Sides:        5        8/8
   Rear:                      5          8
   Turret:                    5          8

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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1 Sniper Artillery       Turret   0   30     2     23.00
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TOTALS:                           0          2     50.00
Items & Tons Left:                          13       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,247,667 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    386 (old BV = 252)
Cost per BV:       3,232.3
Weapon Value:      162 / 162 (Ratio = .42 / .42)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 12;  MRDmg = 12;  LRDmg = 12
BattleForce2:      MP: 7H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/2,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GM;  Point Value: 4
                   Specials: artS

Could be based on the Drillson, Condor, or Maxim chassis.

Tracked gets you 4/6, with a half ton of armor.  Wheeled gets you 5/8, with a ton or so.  Hover is your best choice for speed.

[tomaddamz]

Really, the hover is going to be your best vehicle for this just because of available fraction of mass that can be dedicate to the weapon.

[Andras]

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     snip hovertank  O0

Could be based on the Drillson, Condor, or Maxim chassis.

Tracked gets you 4/6, with a half ton of armor.  Wheeled gets you 5/8, with a ton or so.  Hover is your best choice for speed.

Hmm, thanks! I may make the Sniper frontally mounted, and add a single MG in a turret w 3 tons of armor.

[Sabelkatten]

Personally I'd go for 1-2 front-mounted MGs and no turret, but YMMV.

I also got this idea that doesn't match the request, but I have to post it just for teh lulz! :D

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SniperChopper mk.I
30 ton VTOL, 5/8 ICE, .5 tons armor (2/1/2/2), Sniper artillery Front w/ 10 rounds.

[Andras]

Personally I'd go for 1-2 front-mounted MGs and no turret, but YMMV.

I also got this idea that doesn't match the request, but I have to post it just for teh lulz! :D

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SniperChopper mk.I
30 ton VTOL, 5/8 ICE, .5 tons armor (2/1/2/2),
Sniper artillery Front w/ 10 rounds.

Nice!
How about a Sniper Arty Cannon for elemental hunting?

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ToadKiller TK-SAC

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-X-B
Production Year: 3058
Cost: 1,450,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 177+SNAC+Ammo

Power Plant:  40 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    Sniper Artillery Cannon
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      12 points                3.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 40                       2.00
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  56                  3.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     20       
                                          Left/Right   12/12       
                                                Rear     10       
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cargo, Standard (17.0 tons)                  BD        0         1        17.00
(Sniper Arty Cannon w 20 rounds)

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 2
6          0       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, EE


It'll have to operate along side another VTOL with SRMs to pick off the Elementals after they are reduced to 1armor by the SAC

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ToadKiller TK-SSRM6

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3058
Cost: 1,208,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 614

Power Plant:  100 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 86.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 129.6 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Streak SRM-6s
    1  TAG
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      12 points                3.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                100                       6.00
    Cruise MP:  8
    Flank MP:   12
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  72                  4.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     22       
                                          Left/Right   17/17       
                                                Rear     14       
                                               Rotor     2         

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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2 Streak SRM-6s                              FR        8         2         9.00
TAG                                          FR        0         1         1.00
@Streak SRM-6 (30)                           BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 6
8          0       0       0       0      1     3   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: TAG, EE

2 Streaks to (hopefully) ensure that one will hit. TAG to designate targets for Arrow Artillery vehicles.

2 of each form a hunter lance

[Sabelkatten]

Long Tom Arty Cannon! Who cares if it only gets 5 shots! ;D

[Hellraiser]

Pretty sure there is a Sniper Arty piece in the HMVee files that dates to a design published in Battletechnology Magazine.

IIRC it was 50 tons & tracked.

[Taron Storm]

Yes there was one in Battletechnology.  It was 4/6, 3 tons armor, Sniper Arty Piece with 1 ton of ammo.

[Dave Talley]

easy

take a standard maxim, drop all weapons
add thumper and 2 tons facing forward,
you can even keep the infantry bay :-)

a lance of these has its own infantry company for protection,
2 lances and a protective lance of pegasi and you are covered

[Fireangel]

Hover is your best choice for speed.

WiGEs can outperform Hovers of the same weight class and don't have minimum engine weight limitations.

[Taron Storm]

WiGEs can outperform Hovers of the same weight class and don't have minimum engine weight limitations.

True, but they are not available in the 3025 time frame that Andras specified.

[Sabelkatten]

WiGEs can outperform Hovers of the same weight class and don't have minimum engine weight limitations.

They can? I thought they had worse lift factors across their entire tonnage range? The engine weight is true, thought - but the minimum speed requirement does work similarly.

Of course the different movement type might be a bigger advantage.