Author Topic: Star Wars General Discussion: Somehow The Thread Returned (Read 17121 times)

Fat Guy · « **Reply #60 on:** 29 March 2023, 15:51:47 »

A two episode finale to Bad Batch season two, and DAMN what episodes they were!

Øystein · « **Reply #61 on:** 07 April 2023, 08:48:01 »

SQEEEAAAL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzNZ0Mdx4I

Øystein · « **Reply #62 on:** 07 April 2023, 09:21:49 »

New Star Wars movie announced with Rey - set 15 years after Rise of Skywalker.

Also another new movie announced which will be a Cross-over bridging the TV shows, directed by Dave Filoni.

truetanker · « **Reply #63 on:** 07 April 2023, 10:49:09 »

Quote from: Øystein on 07 April 2023, 08:48:01

SQEEEAAAL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzNZ0Mdx4I

Sounds like someone is a Trekky fan...

~Snort~

TT

Garrand · « **Reply #64 on:** 07 April 2023, 11:14:57 »

AP article about the latest developments in the Star Wars movie franchise

https://apnews.com/article/star-wars-new-movies-ba6d94901b67bf76fa0edd6461c1edca?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0tq1h1xEb4mLuoEsGe-fRAwsx2uwmXLK1Kx26JHhGB2zXRI8W1qqxDreQ

Damon.

Fat Guy · « **Reply #65 on:** 07 April 2023, 12:48:10 »

EDIT.

Oystein beat me to it.

Øystein · « **Reply #66 on:** 07 April 2023, 12:53:14 »

Quote from: Fat Guy on 07 April 2023, 12:48:10

Ashoka trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDCMUCZGYJFUizSax-yElQaFDp5Q&v=HnzNZ0Mdx4I&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.starwars.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3&feature=emb_rel_end

see my post above :)

Mecha82 · « **Reply #67 on:** 07 April 2023, 13:14:46 »

I am super excited for Ahsoka series. Also live action Sabine and Thrawn are in it.

Øystein · « **Reply #68 on:** 07 April 2023, 13:19:19 »

And Hera and Chopper.

Mecha82 · « **Reply #69 on:** 07 April 2023, 13:35:53 »

Oh yeah those two as well. My bad for forgetting those two.

wantec · « **Reply #70 on:** 07 April 2023, 13:40:43 »

Quote from: Øystein on 07 April 2023, 13:19:19

And Hera and Chopper.

And Huyang

truetanker · « **Reply #71 on:** 07 April 2023, 14:36:08 »

I can see Mark Hamill appearing every so often in Ghost Mode, Wouldn't that also imply Palpatine shadowing his Apprentice Master? As Yoda said, 'There is always a Master for every Apprentice, [sic]the Sith have one[/sic].

Who would that be, as Snoke was a Palpatine puppet...

And would Grogu and Mando show up? I mean, Boba *still* lives... technically. Why wouldn't he, Din Djarin, not be still around? And would we see any of the Yuuzhan Vong War? Or anything pre-Darth Mickey for that matter? Like his marriage to The Emperors Hand, Mara Jade?

TT

Mecha82 · « **Reply #72 on:** 07 April 2023, 14:49:38 »

Personally i hope that there won't be Yuuzhan Vong War considering that I didn't like that story line first time around so what chance there is that I would like it second time around. Besides why would they even do that one or Mara Jade when Legends fans would still hate it on principle.

Øystein · « **Reply #73 on:** 07 April 2023, 14:56:38 »

If the Vong show up I'll drop watching Star Wars for eternity. Worst part of EU ever.

Triptych · « **Reply #74 on:** 07 April 2023, 15:13:27 »

Looks like the Critical Drinker was right again when he predicted that Rey was coming back. Let the hate begin lol.

Mecha82 · « **Reply #75 on:** 07 April 2023, 15:45:26 »

Quote from: Øystein on 07 April 2023, 14:56:38

If the Vong show up I'll drop watching Star Wars for eternity. Worst part of EU ever.

I totally agree. It was what made be stop reading EU in first place.

Also I am sure same people that hate every new material on principle will hate Rey getting her own movie but then again they wouldn't watch it anyway so why would LucasFilm care. I in other I am little glad that Rey and her actress get new chance but in other had it's something new for usual suspects to be outraged over no matter how stupid reason it is.

Garrand · « **Reply #76 on:** 07 April 2023, 17:29:37 »

Quote from: Øystein on 07 April 2023, 14:56:38

If the Vong show up I'll drop watching Star Wars for eternity. Worst part of EU ever.

Wish there was a like function. Completely agree!

Damon.

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #77 on:** 07 April 2023, 18:05:30 »

Why all the hate for the Vong? I've not read those books, so I'm curious.

Garrand · « **Reply #78 on:** 07 April 2023, 21:19:39 »

For me it was a combination of issues. But one of the biggest was The Superman effect. The Jedi had become the Superman of the SW galaxy. They could do anything; they were well nigh invincible. So how do you challenge that? You throw in a big bad where their powers don't work! The thing is that the best Superman stories that challenge him are not the ones where his superpowers are negated, but the ones where his superpowers just don't help the situation. He can't super-punch the situation to a resolution. In the same way, a meaningful, challenging story for the Jedi isn't fighting an enemy that can negate their Force powers, but one in which their Force powers are not an auto-win. I just think it was a creative low & they could have done better.

Damon.

Øystein · « **Reply #79 on:** 08 April 2023, 10:18:32 »

Lars Mikkelsen (who also played Thrawn in Rebels) is Thrawn in Ahsoka.

Fat Guy · « **Reply #80 on:** 08 April 2023, 12:44:56 »

Nice to have it finally confirmed. Been hearing it rumored for a while now.

Wrangler · « **Reply #81 on:** 18 April 2023, 06:07:35 »

Quote from: Garrand on 07 April 2023, 21:19:39

. In the same way, a meaningful, challenging story for the Jedi isn't fighting an enemy that can negate their Force powers, but one in which their Force powers are not an auto-win. I just think it was a creative low & they could have done better.

Damon.

Part issues is there no ongoing steady persons writing up and keeping up with what all the lore. The post-Disney writers have been hit and miss (mainly film side of the house/directors [i blame directors/producers more on that front].) That said, if you look at i would term non-canon sources such as RPG systems in the past, they did have counters to Force Users, Jedi and the Sith are bound one ...genre/group that uses the force. Not entire shooting match. There are user group or individuals whom use force without same background. Light & Dark isn't as straight for them, there Grey force users. More balance than balance but they're easily pulled in one direction. Sisters were group from RPG, I do think they have mention in the Cartoons/CGI Animated television shows of their existence. Their essentially dark force users, but not by Sith teachings.

Either case, my point is that Disney writers/directors/etc have not been pouching from other source of Legend/Legacy yet. Frankly, it's why the Jedi look like their all powerful no one to compare them too. Universe focus is too centric on Jedi unfortunately. Having other groups out there doing completely different way of using the force would help a lot for universe in general. However, its lack creativity on Lucas Light and Magic which is part of the bigger problem, since taken over by Disney ownership. Their not branching out trying anything new. Given Disney's corporate nature, I would fear how much generic/crappier the SW universe will get.

garhkal · « **Reply #82 on:** 18 April 2023, 12:49:21 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 07 April 2023, 18:05:30

Why all the hate for the Vong? I've not read those books, so I'm curious.

IMO the hate, stems from the writers killing off chewie in the very first novel..

Mecha82 · « **Reply #83 on:** 18 April 2023, 16:14:52 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 18 April 2023, 06:07:35

Part issues is there no ongoing steady persons writing up and keeping up with what all the lore. The post-Disney writers have been hit and miss (mainly film side of the house/directors [i blame directors/producers more on that front].) That said, if you look at i would term non-canon sources such as RPG systems in the past, they did have counters to Force Users, Jedi and the Sith are bound one ...genre/group that uses the force. Not entire shooting match. There are user group or individuals whom use force without same background. Light & Dark isn't as straight for them, there Grey force users. More balance than balance but they're easily pulled in one direction. Sisters were group from RPG, I do think they have mention in the Cartoons/CGI Animated television shows of their existence. Their essentially dark force users, but not by Sith teachings.

Either case, my point is that Disney writers/directors/etc have not been pouching from other source of Legend/Legacy yet. Frankly, it's why the Jedi look like their all powerful no one to compare them too. Universe focus is too centric on Jedi unfortunately. Having other groups out there doing completely different way of using the force would help a lot for universe in general. However, its lack creativity on Lucas Light and Magic which is part of the bigger problem, since taken over by Disney ownership. Their not branching out trying anything new. Given Disney's corporate nature, I would fear how much generic/crappier the SW universe will get.

Thing is that most of Legends was miss. This is because there was so much material and lot of different authors writing those that they kept repeating same plot points that others had already done. While Legends did have some good ideas as well as some good material it wasn't this flawless continuity that it's fans seem to claim while only remembering good parts. I don't want to anger Legends fans but I think that it needs to be pointed out that it wasn't what they think it is while (unfairly imo) hating everything that is made during Disney era. And yes I used to be Legends fan so I did read both good and bad parts of it with Vong war being what broke the straw so to speak and made me to quit Legends all together.

Ruger · « **Reply #84 on:** 18 April 2023, 18:00:39 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 18 April 2023, 06:07:35

Part issues is there no ongoing steady persons writing up and keeping up with what all the lore. The post-Disney writers have been hit and miss (mainly film side of the house/directors [i blame directors/producers more on that front].) That said, if you look at i would term non-canon sources such as RPG systems in the past, they did have counters to Force Users, Jedi and the Sith are bound one ...genre/group that uses the force. Not entire shooting match. There are user group or individuals whom use force without same background. Light & Dark isn't as straight for them, there Grey force users. More balance than balance but they're easily pulled in one direction. Sisters were group from RPG, I do think they have mention in the Cartoons/CGI Animated television shows of their existence. Their essentially dark force users, but not by Sith teachings.

Either case, my point is that Disney writers/directors/etc have not been pouching from other source of Legend/Legacy yet. Frankly, it's why the Jedi look like their all powerful no one to compare them too. Universe focus is too centric on Jedi unfortunately. Having other groups out there doing completely different way of using the force would help a lot for universe in general. However, its lack creativity on Lucas Light and Magic which is part of the bigger problem, since taken over by Disney ownership. Their not branching out trying anything new. Given Disney's corporate nature, I would fear how much generic/crappier the SW universe will get.

The comics series for the High Republic, as well as the novels for the same have been showing non-Jedi/Sith Force users for a few years now.

Ruger

Luciora · « **Reply #85 on:** 18 April 2023, 18:34:32 »

The Vong are also compared alot to Tyranids.

Mecha82 · « **Reply #86 on:** 18 April 2023, 18:54:37 »

Yeah to many (including to me) they felt very 40k rather than SW.

truetanker · « **Reply #87 on:** 22 April 2023, 09:17:07 »

I saw this and thought of that.

A Lockheed A-12 mounted upside-down during radar tests at Area 51.

The J-type 327 Nubian Royal Starship aka Naboo Royal Starship.

TT

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #88 on:** 23 April 2023, 22:20:07 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 18 April 2023, 06:07:35

Part issues is there no ongoing steady persons writing up and keeping up with what all the lore

turns out.. nope there is, its its own dedicated position with the title "keeper of the holocron"
https://www.wired.com/2008/08/ff-starwarscanon/
https://www.starwars.com/news/introducing-leland-chee
https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2017/08/23/leland-chee-keeper-star-wars-holocron/

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Leland_Chee
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lucasfilm_Story_Group

Wrangler · « **Reply #89 on:** 24 April 2023, 16:11:35 »

Quote from: glitterboy2098 on 23 April 2023, 22:20:07

turns out.. nope there is, its its own dedicated position with the title "keeper of the holocron"
https://www.wired.com/2008/08/ff-starwarscanon/
https://www.starwars.com/news/introducing-leland-chee
https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2017/08/23/leland-chee-keeper-star-wars-holocron/

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Leland_Chee
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lucasfilm_Story_Group

That's good. I wish some of the creative writers would listen to him more. Lol. Sometimes it seems potential show runners / writers are like they're only listening to the bits they like.