Author Topic: Alliance Class "Warship" (Read 1922 times)

Psyckosama · « **on:** 07 April 2012, 12:28:56 »

The idea behind this is that what if, rather than build the overly complicated and expensive Fox Class Corvette with its many cost overruns and delays, the Federated Commonwealth instead decided to start off with something far more simple. It's basically a clone of an old Aquilla class Hull, with modern parts. The Jump Drive, is the smallest compact core available. The engines are right off a Behemoth class Dropship. The weapons are simple and easy to construct.

While small, slow, lightly armed, and thinly armored, it's still enough to send assault dropships running for the hills. After all, they're not going to be fighting enemy warship fleets any time soon, right?

It also could work for an Age of War design as well.

AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout VALIDATED Class/Model/Name: Alliance Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050 Vessel Type: WarShip Rules: Level 2, Standard design Rules Set: AeroTech2 Mass: 100,000 tons K-F Drive System: (Unknown) Power Plant: Standard Safe Thrust: 2 Maximum Thrust: 3 Armor Type: Standard Armament: 6 Killer Whale 96 Autocannon/5 48 Machine Gun 4 NAC/10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Class/Model/Name: Alliance Mass: 100,000 tons Equipment: Mass Power Plant, Drive & Control: 12,000.00 Thrust: Safe Thrust: 2 Maximum Thrust: 3 Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 4) 45,250.00 Jump Sail: (Integrity = 3) 35.00 Structural Integrity: 40 4,000.00 Total Heat Sinks: 336 Single 137.00 Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 2,550.00 Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 250.00 Fire Control Computers: .00 Armor Type: Standard (88 total armor pts) 79.50 Capital Scale Armor Pts Location: L / R Fore: 19 Fore-Left/Right: 14/14 Aft-Left/Right: 14/14 Aft: 13 Cargo: Bay 1: Small Craft (8) 1,600.00 Fighters (20) with 4 doors 3,000.00 Bay 2: Cargo (1) with 1 door 7,556.75 Bay 3: Cargo (1) with 1 door 7,556.75 DropShip Capacity: 1 Docking Hardpoints 1,000.00 Escape Pods: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00 Crew and Passengers: 17 Officers (17 minimum) 170.00 48 Crew (48 minimum) 336.00 34 Gunners (34 minimum) 238.00 80 Steerage Passengers 400.00 100 Marines 500.00 1 New Crew/Passenger Type 5.00 80 Bay Personnel .00 Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 Killer Whale(20 msls) Nose 8 8 8 8 40 1,300.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) Nose 1(12) -- -- -- 0 6.00 2 NAC/10(20 rounds) FL/R 20 20 20 -- 120 8,008.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) FL/R 1(12) -- -- -- 0 12.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) L/RBS 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) L/RBS 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) L/RBS 1(12) -- -- -- 0 12.00 2 Killer Whale(20 msls) AL/R 8 8 8 8 80 2,600.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) AL/R 1(12) -- -- -- 0 12.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) Aft 1(12) -- -- -- 0 6.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOTALS: Heat: 336 100,000.00 Tons Left: .00 Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 22,270,294,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 22,197 Cost per BV: 1,003,301.98 Weapon Value: 11,065 (Ratio = .50) Damage Factors: SRV = 1,115; MRV = 933; LRV = 462; ERV = 181 Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 144,849 (37,532 Structure, 82,525 Life Support, 24,792 Weapons) Support Points (SP) = 219,600 (152% of MPV) BattleForce2: Not applicable

Lazarus Jaguar · « **Reply #1 on:** 07 April 2012, 15:01:15 »

Not bad for the concept. Tough, I do think you should have included some non-projectile weapons in there. I hate any design that's totally ammo-dependant (*cough*Black Lion).

Hellraiser · « **Reply #2 on:** 07 April 2012, 15:34:16 »

Quote from: Psyckosama on 07 April 2012, 12:28:56

The idea behind this is that what if, rather than build the overly complicated and expensive Fox Class Corvette with its many cost overruns and delays, the Federated Commonwealth instead decided to start off with something far more simple. It's basically a clone of an old Aquilla class Hull, with modern parts. The Jump Drive, is the smallest compact core available. The engines are right off a Behemoth class Dropship. The weapons are simple and easy to construct.

I'm not sure I recall any fluff about the fox being Overly complicated or having any cost overruns, at least not compared to any other Warship.
Nor are the engines "right off a Behemoth" since they come in weighing less over all. (6% v/s 6.5)

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While small, slow, lightly armed, and thinly armored, it's still enough to send assault dropships running for the hills. After all, they're not going to be fighting enemy warship fleets any time soon, right?

Armor Type: Standard (88 total armor pts) 79.50 Capital Scale Armor Pts Location: L / R Fore: 19 Fore-Left/Right: 14/14 Aft-Left/Right: 14/14 Aft: 13

Not sure it would send too many Assault ships running.
Honestly I'm thinking a couple Obsolete Avengers w/ 15 Point Nose On strikes is going to put a serious hurting on it w/ that paper thin armor.

That said, I get where your going, and a simpler platform might have been in order back in the AoW days. They could afford more variety in ships & so could use an old clunker like this one.

The Fox, IMHO, works well, as a Starter ship compared to the other houses & ends up being the
most plentiful ship in the 3050's era with what, almost 2 dozen constructed in total.
It makes a Great RCT/Taskforce command ship supporting the Army while the Avalon makes for a good Naval Flotilla command ship. Neither of them is a "Line" battleship type vessel but both work well in supporting larger of PWS/Carrier/ASF task forces which is what we end up seeing much more of in the future.

This little vessel reminds me of budget carrier for some lesser periphery power.
Maybe Outworlds Alliance with that fighter wing ?

Psyckosama · « **Reply #3 on:** 07 April 2012, 16:33:37 »

AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout VALIDATED Class/Model/Name: Alliance Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067 Vessel Type: WarShip Rules: Level 2, Standard design Rules Set: AeroTech2 Mass: 100,000 tons K-F Drive System: (Unknown) Power Plant: Standard Safe Thrust: 2 Maximum Thrust: 3 Armor Type: Standard Armament: 6 Killer Whale 96 Autocannon/5 48 Machine Gun 4 NAC/10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Class/Model/Name: Alliance Mass: 100,000 tons Equipment: Mass Power Plant, Drive & Control: 12,000.00 Thrust: Safe Thrust: 2 Maximum Thrust: 3 Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 4) 45,250.00 Jump Sail: (Integrity = 3) 35.00 Structural Integrity: 70 7,000.00 Total Heat Sinks: 336 Single 137.00 Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 2,550.00 Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 250.00 Fire Control Computers: .00 Armor Type: Standard (154 total armor pts) 139.50 Capital Scale Armor Pts Location: L / R Fore: 31 Fore-Left/Right: 25/25 Aft-Left/Right: 25/25 Aft: 23 Cargo: Bay 1: Small Craft (8) 1,600.00 Fighters (20) with 4 doors 3,000.00 Bay 2: Cargo (1) with 1 door 6,026.75 Bay 3: Cargo (1) with 1 door 6,026.75 DropShip Capacity: 1 Docking Hardpoints 1,000.00 Escape Pods: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00 Crew and Passengers: 17 Officers (17 minimum) 170.00 48 Crew (48 minimum) 336.00 34 Gunners (34 minimum) 238.00 80 Steerage Passengers 400.00 100 Marines 500.00 1 New Crew/Passenger Type 5.00 80 Bay Personnel .00 Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 Killer Whale(20 msls) Nose 8 8 8 8 40 1,300.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) Nose 1(12) -- -- -- 0 6.00 2 NAC/10(20 rounds) FL/R 20 20 20 -- 120 8,008.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) FL/R 1(12) -- -- -- 0 12.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) L/RBS 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) L/RBS 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) L/RBS 1(12) -- -- -- 0 12.00 2 Killer Whale(20 msls) AL/R 8 8 8 8 80 2,600.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 12 120.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) AL/R 1(12) -- -- -- 0 12.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Autocannon/5(240 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 6 60.00 6 Machine Gun(600 rounds) Aft 1(12) -- -- -- 0 6.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOTALS: Heat: 336 100,000.00 Tons Left: .00 Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 2,277,494,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 23,887 Cost per BV: 95,344.5 Weapon Value: 14,234 (Ratio = .60) Damage Factors: SRV = 1,115; MRV = 933; LRV = 462; ERV = 181 Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 168,877 (61,560 Structure, 82,525 Life Support, 24,792 Weapons) Support Points (SP) = 219,600 (130% of MPV) BattleForce2: Not applicable

How about now?

Takiro · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 April 2012, 03:44:02 »

Beat you to the punch on this one Psyckosama. ;)

http://ourbattletech.com/forum/aerotech/vanguard-class-corvette/

Author Topic: Alliance Class "Warship" (Read 1922 times)

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