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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #120 on: 07 October 2018, 10:26:03 »
As I poke more at Alpha Strike, it becomes clear the Anzu G60 is meant to be one of our main-issue heavies in that rules set. I am totally okay with this (it contrasts the TDR-9M, -10M, and TMP-3M/-3G in subtle but enjoyable ways), but I would like to speed up my research some and thus have a question:

What do you typically team an Anzu up with? Its inclusion of TAG is obviously a major selling point, so who benefits from the Anzu's TAG?

As near as I can tell, the machine does not require any specific 'hunting partners' in direct battle; it has no 'minimum range' for people to exploit and it's equally good at all distances. While it might benefit from a fast unit to herd enemies toward it so TAG can be more easily used, I see no truly necessary escort units for the Anzu.

Thus I'm just interested in who benefits from its TAG, and the details as to why.

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« Reply #121 on: 07 October 2018, 11:45:55 »
Scotty.  You're telling me that Kenyon I, dick though he was, was a useless CG?  The man conquered five swathes of Hegemony and Confederation space.

I'll freely admit I forgot about him, but I also rate "conquering Hegemony space after the Exodus" to be the lowest hanging fruit it's possible to pluck.
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« Reply #122 on: 07 October 2018, 14:01:36 »
I'll freely admit I forgot about him, but I also rate "conquering Hegemony space after the Exodus" to be the lowest hanging fruit it's possible to pluck.

Especially since he could not preserve the reason it was conquered . . . so yeah, irradiated planets!
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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #123 on: 08 October 2018, 07:59:47 »
I'll freely admit I forgot about him, but I also rate "conquering Hegemony space after the Exodus" to be the lowest hanging fruit it's possible to pluck.

Hegemony vs. RWR for lowest hanging fruit. Go!
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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #124 on: 14 October 2018, 22:33:40 »
So I do not have much covering the end of the Jihad except FM3085 . . .

Which leads to this . . . what important/powerful characters does each League faction have?  Would there have been some even to keep some from banding together- like Marik Commonwealth and Silverhawks Coalition?  or Oriente & Orloff?
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« Reply #125 on: 17 October 2018, 16:29:51 »
*crickets*
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« Reply #126 on: 17 October 2018, 18:09:40 »
masters and minions is set in 3076. you might check there

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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #127 on: 18 October 2018, 09:20:54 »
I understand the source is out there . . . but I also know that not every influential character gets a write up in the SBs.  My favorite example would be the Warden Wolves- Carew and Evantha are often trouble shooters for Phelan Kell and he will assign them to command special details of their respective branches (Carew commanded the Wolf aerospace assets when hunting the new Red Corsair).  The Invasion Wolves, and later the Warden Wolves had Anika whatever who was Tyra's friend as a bondswoman turned warrior who took Kell's offer to leave the Clan after the Refusal War.  She left the Wolves to join ComStar and was involved in the Explorer Corps mission, which is why she showed up in Explorer Corp SB.

Btw, did we hear anything about Lester Cameron-Jones female cousin who was critical of his standing off the neoFWL?  Titus did not have siblings, so what branch did she come from?
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« Reply #128 on: 19 October 2018, 06:08:48 »
The only place she popped up with the Sarath entry.  I expected we'd see her in SF, but she might appear in ilClan part 2.  As for family relations, I think the entry said that she was a distant relation rather than a first cousin.
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« Reply #129 on: 19 October 2018, 16:02:36 »
I know part of the discussion about her was that she would take over Regulan government when Lester lost & got the boot (or shorter by a head) but . . . Lester is still hanging in though he has no heirs of the body afaik.

So her family background- go back a generation for a Cameron-Jones as a alternate to Titus.

Therese Brett-Marik having Photon & Reginald . . . one of which could be the parent (or if grandparent of Fontaine, the parent would have to be born 3030s or 3040s), how many siblings or cousins might Fontaine have had to cause problems in a succession?
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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #130 on: 23 October 2018, 00:51:01 »
What do you typically team an Anzu up with? Its inclusion of TAG is obviously a major selling point, so who benefits from the Anzu's TAG?

Thus I'm just interested in who benefits from its TAG, and the details as to why.

I typically use a pair of Patriot-2E with Semi-Guided missiles with my Anzu, given that fact it allows two more TAG units onboard... with their 4/4/3 profiles @38PV ea. Last mech is an old school Warhammer-7M 4/4/2 profile @35PV ( While I do know SG LRMs aren't compatible with Artemis, they can still be fired. )

The Anzu does have a nice leadership role as the units sniper.

This what your looking for?

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« Reply #131 on: 29 October 2018, 11:37:17 »
It is what I'm looking for, though I'm surprised. I figured we'd see units with a lot more Indirect Fire throw-weight partnered up with it, most of those are IF1 or don't have IF at all.

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« Reply #132 on: 29 October 2018, 12:06:58 »
It's a one-ton bit of gear that costs zero BV if you leave the guided stuff at home. The TAG was there to allow the Anzu to better synergize with missile boats, but the League has plenty of non-missile stuff, and taking an Anzu into such a force is hardly a case of hamstringing yourself.
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« Reply #133 on: 29 October 2018, 12:10:35 »
You're reading sentiments into my replies that simply aren't there.

I merely expected to find forces making heavy use of IF to go with the Anzu. It's looking more like people are using it as a smaller option during relatively 'lull' periods in the fighting, though. Which is interesting to learn.

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« Reply #134 on: 29 October 2018, 16:02:54 »
Smaller option?
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« Reply #135 on: 29 October 2018, 17:55:25 »
It is what I'm looking for, though I'm surprised. I figured we'd see units with a lot more Indirect Fire throw-weight partnered up with it, most of those are IF1 or don't have IF at all.

Well there is the Longbow-7V that does 4/5/4 for 50PV... but that has the absolute minimum IF3. By removing both Patriots and recouping 76 PV back, and spending 50 on the Longbow and 25 on a Whitworth-1 ( 2/2/2 IF1 ). Saving you 1 PV from original value... which adds up!

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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #136 on: 19 November 2018, 09:17:23 »
Hey fellow Free Worlders.  I just want to clear something up.  For SGLRMs, you add the BV of the ammo to the BV of a unit with TAG.  Do I have to add the BV for every ton of ammo to every unit with TAG?

A friend to wants to play a big game in a city so I was going to take a full platoon of Achileus TAG and just rain missiles onto him, but if this is how it works....oh boy.  That's a lot of extra BV.
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« Reply #137 on: 19 November 2018, 12:10:19 »
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« Reply #138 on: 19 November 2018, 12:34:52 »
Damn.  Oh well, time to get counting.


So, update.  He wants to run 20,000 BV in a city fight.  This is what I pieced together so far:

AS7-D Atlas
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« Reply #139 on: 20 November 2018, 13:50:43 »
I'm going to make him fight in the shade.
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« Reply #140 on: 20 November 2018, 16:28:08 »
In this scenario, I'm the Persians so.....maybe should I take a Xerxes?
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« Reply #141 on: 26 November 2018, 15:21:58 »
Do you know the type of buildings & layout- IE is it a warehouse/industrial district with a bunch of L3 buildings that have a 8 or 9 hex footprint?  or are you playing downtown with Central Park surrounded by skyscrapers which have a 9 or 12 hex footprint but are L20/whatever?
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« Reply #142 on: 19 December 2018, 23:51:21 »
Been trying to puzzle what years were election years in the old FWL. We know from various sources that each parliament starts on even years... so would elections take place the year before?

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« Reply #143 on: 23 December 2018, 15:52:22 »
I made a Combat Manual Lite for House Marik.
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Re: The New Free Worlds League: Thread Title Deadlocked in Committee
« Reply #144 on: 05 January 2019, 15:47:32 »
Hello fellow Marik nobility and commoners. I have a couple of questions if you are willing to indulge an older player returning to the game from the Compendium and 3025 boxed set days. 

My first question to you is this: When you're building an Early Republic or later force for Marik, do you use the MUL for the faction that had troops (such as the Duchy of Oriente), and then add in the unit list available to the Free Worlds League to determine your force? Do we also have access to Early Republic Units in later periods, like the Dark Age?

Second, did we get the Duchy of Andurien back from its split, or has it become part of the Capellan/Canopian alliance?

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« Reply #145 on: 05 January 2019, 17:12:56 »
Ari married a shriveled up incestuous prune.  I mean Ilsa Centrella . . .

Republic stuff ends up in the League so that is a easy add, especially since some of the worlds were taken producing Republic gear.  Factor in the defeat and/or absorption of Republic units outside the Fortress & Remnant and its a viable source.
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« Reply #146 on: 05 January 2019, 18:36:30 »
It was more of a question of era and Faction. When yo use the MUL to build a force for Marik, do you take the specific faction and the units available to all members of the Free Worlds league to build a post Jihad/Republic/Dark Agw era unit?

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« Reply #147 on: 05 January 2019, 19:06:00 »
Use both. The Marik list is for everyone, the provincial list is for some local flavor

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« Reply #148 on: 10 January 2019, 14:34:49 »
Thanks for clearing that up.

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« Reply #149 on: 10 January 2019, 16:05:40 »
one of the most freeing (but equally maddening) aspects of force building is that most of the restrictions are self-imposed. You could take all from one list or the other if you wanted to. Don't forget about the Inner Sphere General list in addition to the house and provincial lists.

For the time in question (circa 3100):

  • Where does the unit sit in the quartermaster's pecking order?

Units with more clout, eliteness, and political ties will get access to newer, shinier toys. Such a formation is more likely to get a fresh-off-the-line Carronade where a less favored unit has to settle for a refurbished Hercules. A unit way down the list might be lucky to get a 3049 vintage Orion ON-1M

  • Does the unit engage in heavy combat with a specific enemy?

Let's say your theoretical unit is stationed close to the volatile border with the Lyrans. You'd be within your rights to add some salvaged mechs like a Razorback, Uziel, or Axman. A particularly experienced unit might even possess a clan mech or two either salvaged from the wolves or purchased from the sharks.

  • When did the unit get its equipment?

A unit constituted or rebuilt after the Jihad is going to lean more toward provincial than national because that's what's more readily available coming out of factories. While different ex-members traded with each other before the reforming of the league, there aren't any guarantees. Also things like the Republic mothballing Irian's plant in 3091 happened.

On the other hand, a new unit down the priority list might get hand-me-downs or castoffs from other units so your rebuilt third battalion, third company might work just as well in 3060 as 3100.

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