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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #30 on: 18 July 2018, 15:07:24 »
Hopefully we get more high quality sculpts...  and updates.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #31 on: 18 July 2018, 15:18:58 »
I thought Cubby's most recent box tease showed production proofs of the minis (meaning actual production samples, and not prototypes) Was I wrong?


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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #32 on: 18 July 2018, 15:27:06 »
Well the 25th Anniversary ones, yes, but not the 2nd printing High Quality/Lance Pack ones.

Sure. Both have been done. I’m curious why so many words have been used to discuss whether or not they’re one piece

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #33 on: 18 July 2018, 17:06:37 »
The last photos were of production miniatures, all one-piece.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #34 on: 18 July 2018, 17:10:30 »
The last photos were of production miniatures, all one-piece.
Good news, I just discovered my previous box set miniatures have begun to unglue themselves.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #35 on: 18 July 2018, 17:26:56 »
Good news, I just discovered my previous box set miniatures have begun to unglue themselves.
Wait wait, are we talking about the 25th anniversary introductory set? The one with same quality minis as the lance packs?

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #36 on: 18 July 2018, 17:48:54 »
Wait wait, are we talking about the 25th anniversary introductory set? The one with same quality minis as the lance packs?

There were 3 production runs of the introductory box set.

1st run had poor plastic, very soft, and came with 2 loki's.
2nd run had improved plastic (same sculpts) and came with Loki and battlemaster I think.
3rd run was the same as 2nd but different premium mechs.

I think the 2nd got labelled as they 25th anniversary box, but I'm not 100% on that.

The as packs were using the plastic of the 2nd/3rd releases.

I have a 1st release and many places the glue has been poor (eg spider backpack) and many mold issues (my catapult is missing the holes for the launchers)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #37 on: 18 July 2018, 17:59:56 »
Three runs

The ‘07 catapult box. Soft plastic, no bonus mechs
The ‘11 25th anni hammerhands box. Better plastic. Loki and Thor
The ‘13 Atlas box. Same plastic, battlemaster and mad cat

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #38 on: 18 July 2018, 18:25:18 »
Three runs

The ‘07 catapult box. Soft plastic, no bonus mechs
The ‘11 25th anni hammerhands box. Better plastic. Loki and Thor
The ‘13 Atlas box. Same plastic, battlemaster and mad cat

Actually the 25' Anniversary (Hammerhands) had crappy soft plastic, many pieces multi Part. The Atlas Box has the same quality minis as the Lance packs (some of which were same minis in lance Pack as Box set, i/e Awesome, Atlas, etc.)

I can't speak to the 07 Box as I am unsure if I have some in my recent Mech acquirement.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #39 on: 18 July 2018, 18:33:14 »
Duh, mixed 25th anni box with the Atlas box (i have that).

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #40 on: 18 July 2018, 18:48:20 »
Hope to see something soon. Thanks to the CGL gang keeping BattleTech going.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #41 on: 18 July 2018, 19:09:32 »
Actually the 25' Anniversary (Hammerhands) had crappy soft plastic, many pieces multi Part. The Atlas Box has the same quality minis as the Lance packs (some of which were same minis in lance Pack as Box set, i/e Awesome, Atlas, etc.)

I can't speak to the 07 Box as I am unsure if I have some in my recent Mech acquirement.

My plastic demo mechs are from the 07 set. Lower definition than the '11 set.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #42 on: 18 July 2018, 19:11:22 »
I’m not that excited for them to do lance packs; if they sell the new mechs unassembled in blisters, 1 per,  oh boy... the flexibility!

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« Reply #43 on: 18 July 2018, 19:23:38 »
Unassembled minis aren't really casual friendly. Seems very unlikely those would happen.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #44 on: 18 July 2018, 19:41:17 »
I’m not that excited for them to do lance packs; if they sell the new mechs unassembled in blisters, 1 per,  oh boy... the flexibility!

They are plastic . . . easy to cut & mod, worktroll has all sorts of posts about it and pictures of the finished product.  By their nature, already very flexible (especially if you use hot water) . . . you want multi-piece?  IWM is your vendor.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #45 on: 18 July 2018, 20:52:19 »
Actually the 25' Anniversary (Hammerhands) had crappy soft plastic, many pieces multi Part. The Atlas Box has the same quality minis as the Lance packs (some of which were same minis in lance Pack as Box set, i/e Awesome, Atlas, etc.)

I can't speak to the 07 Box as I am unsure if I have some in my recent Mech acquirement.

Thanks for that. My stuff is in storage and I was working from falty memory. The 07 box is the soft flimsy plastic. Iirc a lot of the spider jump packs were glued on upside down

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #46 on: 18 July 2018, 22:08:15 »
I have 2 sets of those crappy soft plastic miniatures.  They are very poor quality, but I still did a quick paint job on them, and they are very useful as pieces you don't care about getting dirty.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #47 on: 19 July 2018, 12:34:21 »
Unassembled minis aren't really casual friendly.

The new edition of Blood Bowl seems to have managed to do multipart minis that are casual friendly/easily snapped together.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #48 on: 19 July 2018, 13:03:55 »
I’m not that excited for them to do lance packs; if they sell the new mechs unassembled in blisters, 1 per,  oh boy... the flexibility!

I really, really doubt that will ever happen. Don't hold your breath or save your pennies for it.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #49 on: 19 July 2018, 13:22:23 »
Remember too that, as I understand it, CGL's license only includes the production of plastic miniatures in certain circumstances such as boxed sets and the Lance Packs you've seen. The overall minis license is held by Iron Wind Metals, a distinct company from CGL, and any plans they do or don't have regarding plastic minis are their own.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #50 on: 19 July 2018, 13:40:32 »
Remember too that, as I understand it, CGL's license only includes the production of plastic miniatures in certain circumstances such as boxed sets and the Lance Packs you've seen. The overall minis license is held by Iron Wind Metals, a distinct company from CGL, and any plans they do or don't have regarding plastic minis are their own.

Ah, interesting; thanks for the info!

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« Reply #51 on: 19 July 2018, 14:31:56 »
Ah, interesting; thanks for the info!

One other question to knock on to this is -- even if one or the other started doing wide-scale plastics, would they be the same sculpts? Does CGL have access to IWM sculpts to make molds and vice-versa, for instance? That would be a big issue especially for CGL, because if they flat-out can't make plastic molds easily with IWM's assistance (the ones IWM has, IIRC, would be unsuitable for plastic mini manufacture), that's a metric crapton of money they'd have to sink in for each and every 'mech in the game they'd want to make (or the fans would be demanding).

Now, practically, they probably do (given that Speck is a high poobah at IWM and has a major presence on these here boards lends credence to the "they could" argument), but who knows what the license says and how tightly anyone's hands are tied? 

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #52 on: 19 July 2018, 14:52:37 »
Who is going to GenCon and can help me out with a thing? Any help would be super appreciated.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #53 on: 19 July 2018, 15:46:08 »
*Disclaimer: I know the new minis to be included in the new boxed sets are one piece, as I have seen the statements from TPTB*

Not sure why people keep thinking the new minis are assembled from parts, it would be more expensive that way . . . and you can also see them online painted for promo materials, I think a Catapult, two meds? and a heavy? for a lance of blue w/gray or silver highlights.

It's a very reasonable thought, actually. There's a significant difference between molded in one piece and sold in once piece. From what some of us know of the production process, there appear to be significant recesses and overhangs in the new minis. These are issues that have resulted in the release of multi-part minis in the past, including the fairly recent plastic Loki and Thor. Those minis were molded in multiple parts and assembled at the factory so they were a single piece for the consumer. But those same minis also were available unassembled.

Now, looking at the new Locust and Commando, I see what appears to be a minimum of 5 parts each plus the base. While they definitely will be single-piece minis when included in the boxed set, they appear to be cast in multiple pieces and then assembled at the factory. I don't need official clarification on this, as I will find out as soon as I get my hands on them. I also don't want folks to hear TPTB say the words "multi-part minis" and then run away screaming, as happens so often here, before they finish the sentence with "fully assembled at the factory". If I am wrong, I will be taken aback at the leap that manufacturing technology has taken in the last several years, and the world will go on. If I am right, the world will go on.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #54 on: 19 July 2018, 15:51:45 »
Who is going to GenCon and can help me out with a thing? Any help would be super appreciated.

What thing?

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« Reply #55 on: 19 July 2018, 16:13:06 »
One other question to knock on to this is -- even if one or the other started doing wide-scale plastics, would they be the same sculpts? Does CGL have access to IWM sculpts to make molds and vice-versa, for instance?

The last batch of plastic minis were based on the IWM pieces. I do not know how that worked, business-wise.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #56 on: 19 July 2018, 16:30:50 »
Hmm . . . I took the 'better quality mini that the previous box & lance pack' type statements to be the cause of those sorts of detail work.  Especially since other statements made it sound like the box/lance pack minis were below the industry standard- they were fine for me.  But I am not a big modder nor do I have a lot to compare them to except for say the DropZone Commander stuff I picked up, which is made from a different material.  The other comparison I would have is the MWDA stuff from . . . 15 years? ago . . . and the last box/lance packs had better plastic & QC IMO.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #57 on: 19 July 2018, 16:32:57 »
Going to the return of fiction . . . can we get anthologies of the intro/chapter stories in TW/TO/etc or anywhere else it appears in any of the recent SBs?

I really like the intro in CM Mercs, and I think we could get some pretty decent PDF anthologies out of it if nothing else.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #58 on: 19 July 2018, 16:50:11 »
What thing?

The kind of thing that should only be handled via PM, I suspect...
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #59 on: 19 July 2018, 17:15:04 »
I liked the Lance packs. 4 Mechs for I think it was $25. It's a pretty good price.
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