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Title: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Hatachi on 20 December 2011, 22:45:25
I was curious if any of you would be able to help me track down a tool.  With the release of the new hex maps I've put some work into finding a good use for the old paper maps.  My solution is cutting the maps out by level and gluing them to painted foam board with the levels accurately displayed to give me a 3d hex map.  My biggest issue is cutting "inside" hexes out of the foam board without ruining the board around it.  I was curious if anyone knew of a 1.25 inch hex foam punch that I could use to only cut out the necessary spot and keep the lines nice and straight.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: btp2k2 on 21 December 2011, 03:33:39
Make one....it's super easy.

Got a sheet of clear plexi glass, lay it on top of a sheet of printed 1.25" hexes and get a dremel with a drill bit and drill holes.

I did this in about 10 minutes....

(http://skyhawks.combatace.com/images/BT/hex_template.jpg)

Works like a champ
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Xmarx.com on 21 December 2011, 06:58:33
It's a long shot, but you might look into card making supplies at craft stores.  My wife and daughter have been making their own Christmas cards, they've found different punches that cut out flower patterns and the like.  You may be able to find one that does hexes, not sure.  Good luck!
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: scatcat on 21 December 2011, 08:52:33
It's a long shot, but you might look into card making supplies at craft stores.  My wife and daughter have been making their own Christmas cards, they've found different punches that cut out flower patterns and the like.  You may be able to find one that does hexes, not sure.  Good luck!

I've looked. Large hexagon punches do not exist. You'll have to custom fabricate one. Closest off the shelf products I've seen are cookie and candle molds, but these products are neither durable nor sharp enough to do the job. I've tried....
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Propnut on 22 December 2011, 09:10:57
Scatcat, I might be able to make one. I will fiddle around the shop today and see what I come up with.

I have some 1/16" steel laying about and a metal bender (flashing type bender) that should do the job. Then just sharpen the bottom edge, or do that before I bend it. Might be a handy tool to have around.

I will let you know if it worked.

David



Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Slade_Deleportas on 22 December 2011, 10:14:25
Propnut, I'm just waiting for the day you unveil your full sized mech sim cockpit...  With the talent and tools at your disposal should be easy for you. lol.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: scatcat on 22 December 2011, 10:22:37
Scatcat, I might be able to make one. I will fiddle around the shop today and see what I come up with.

I have some 1/16" steel laying about and a metal bender (flashing type bender) that should do the job. Then just sharpen the bottom edge, or do that before I bend it. Might be a handy tool to have around.

I will let you know if it worked.

David

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.  O0
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Propnut on 22 December 2011, 10:31:13
I worked on it for a while this morning but unfortunately no matter how sharp I get the cutter, it will not cut down into the foam it just crushes it. So this project is a no-go for me, sorry.

Slade, I have a Simpit for airplane sims and do plan on a mechpit someday. You might check out Chewy's Vulture pit here:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3168699/1.html

Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Slade_Deleportas on 22 December 2011, 10:48:08
I saw the construction methods of that one over at the MekTek forums. Over on MWO we got this one:
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/2573-mech-simpit-elh-wasp1-unseen/ (http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/2573-mech-simpit-elh-wasp1-unseen/)


Both are amazing pieces of work. Wish I had the time money and most importantly tools to do one of my own.  lol
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Ratboy on 24 December 2011, 16:41:01

If you have the tools, Make a template/guide out of wood first, then you can use a dremel with a plunge bit (or a hot cutter - pencil type) it to cut out the hexes.

It's very hard to compression-cut extruded styrofoam without crushing it.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: worktroll on 24 December 2011, 17:12:50
Get one of those cheap hobby knifes with the snap-off blade sections (hopefully that makes sense). Use a template like btp2k2's, and use a whiteboard marker to mark dots onto the styrene. Then get a candle. Drag the knife edge across the candle - this makes the blade slick and less likely to hang up in the styrene.

Plunge the blade down about halfway through an edge where you want to cut, then cut both ways to complete the side. Re-wax the blade frequently. Repeat for the other 5 edges, and with a little care, voila! You've cut your hole. I used this technique to make these.

(http://www.solaris7.com/files/members/602/01map.jpg)

Did the waterholes that way - then sliced the top 1/4 off the plug, and glued them back in place. Which reminds me, I need to run a Quick-Strike game sometime ;)

W.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Charlie Tango on 24 December 2011, 18:14:15

WT, a serrated-edge blade (like a steak knife) works almost better for that; it works with the wax trick and  cuts foam (styro or floral foam anyway) better than a hobby knife,  plus you can make bigger cuts.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Lt Dan on 24 December 2011, 18:15:16
Ive been using a scroll saw to cut foam/rubber for 3D terrain for a while... very good results I think.

I've attached a couple of pics for example.  The terrain isn't finished yet but you can see the edges quite well.

Hope this gives you an idea or two.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Shijima_3085 on 25 December 2011, 22:47:05
WT, a serrated-edge blade (like a steak knife) works almost better for that; it works with the wax trick and  cuts foam (styro or floral foam anyway) better than a hobby knife,  plus you can make bigger cuts.

Was just about to suggest that - I've had fairly good results with an old steak knife, and a little fine-grit sandpaper to clean up the edges.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: worktroll on 26 December 2011, 05:29:11
One of these days I'll take six weeks off, and do the Canyons and Moonscape maps - I'll give the steak knife a go then!

W.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Hatachi on 01 January 2012, 23:09:24
For you people using steak knives etc.  When you're doing multiple layers in that way how do you keep the edges square?
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Dave Talley on 02 January 2012, 00:12:38
.  I was curious if anyone knew of a 1.25 inch hex foam punch that I could use to only cut out the necessary spot and keep the lines nice and straight.  Thanks in advance.



hmm whats the lenght of a standard razor blade?
if you could build a rig to hold 6 of them in a hex formation you might be able to make the punch work
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Shijima_3085 on 02 January 2012, 20:13:12
For you people using steak knives etc.  When you're doing multiple layers in that way how do you keep the edges square?

If you mean, all exactly the same size, thats still something I'm considering.  For now the minor mismatches look alright.  If I make a lot, I'll just rig up a jig to clamp several pieces between while sanding.
Title: Re: 1.25 Hex Hole Punch.
Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 January 2012, 22:00:34
For you people using steak knives etc.  When you're doing multiple layers in that way how do you keep the edges square?

Clean up the edges with a small hobby knife or a hobby saw.  Or just go with the rough mismatches.