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Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« on: 05 March 2013, 20:49:36 »
I'm looking for the dirtiest and most underhanded ways to defeat Clanner scum. I'm looking for maximum butthurt, here.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #1 on: 05 March 2013, 20:59:50 »
I would say DNA-targeted viruses like the Society developed and used in the Wars of Reaving.
Once you get down to biological warfare and potential genocide it is quite hard to to top that.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #2 on: 05 March 2013, 21:02:26 »
infest their food supply with a tweaked version of botchulism
make it severe and long lasting, drug resitant, and severely irritating to soft tissues

destroy thier morale, egos, all thier pride, everything

you said you wanted butthurt   >:D
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #3 on: 05 March 2013, 21:03:12 »
nuke 'em from orbit. Only way to be sure after all.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #4 on: 05 March 2013, 21:19:55 »
I'm looking for the dirtiest and most underhanded ways to defeat Clanner scum. I'm looking for maximum butthurt, here.

Build a time machine to interfere with the past to ensure the Clans never existed.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #5 on: 05 March 2013, 21:51:27 »
Well the castration of an entire generation of sibkos and only allowing the tainted ones to survive.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #6 on: 05 March 2013, 22:23:02 »
Get captured, gain power and destroy them from the inside by taking advantage of their inflexible caste system. Encourage genocidal war among other Clans by stoking the fires of their factional hatred.

Provide technology and intel to IS and periphery powers in order for them to wage proxy wars and coordinated attacks on other Clans.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #7 on: 05 March 2013, 22:26:55 »
I'm looking for the dirtiest and most underhanded ways to defeat Clanner scum. I'm looking for maximum butthurt, here.

Going for a practical "most dishonorable" method?

Try the WoB technique. Nuke, bio-bomb, subvert, undermine, and above all: don't give them a clear enemy. Burn the Clans while the warriors wail and thrash about uselessly in their 'Mechs.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #8 on: 05 March 2013, 22:36:49 »
infest their food supply with a tweaked version of botchulism
make it severe and long lasting, drug resitant, and severely irritating to soft tissues

destroy thier morale, egos, all thier pride, everything

you said you wanted butthurt   >:D

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2013, 23:31:21 »
Tiger pits lined with vibrobombs in a swamp.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #10 on: 06 March 2013, 00:09:50 »
I'm looking for the dirtiest and most underhanded ways to defeat Clanner scum. I'm looking for maximum butthurt, here.
Assuming you mean in mech combat, trap them in level 3 pits filled with two levels of waters to prevent jump jets from working and just rain artillery down on them.  They're helpless and can't even fire back at an enemy pummeling them from a few mapsheets away.  IIRC, artillery kills completely destroy the mech (and its pilot.)  End result, the clanners lose the battle and their mechs without being able to fire a shot, which means there's no chance for a bloodname.



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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #11 on: 06 March 2013, 00:34:31 »
1 - When they challenge you to a trial, choose a place you don't care about for the location
2 - Fill it with mines
3 - Never show up
4 - When they do, dump it full of Inferno Bombs

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #12 on: 06 March 2013, 00:48:54 »
nuke 'em from orbit. Only way to be sure after all.

why wait until the land? nuke 'em IN orbit, preferably from hidden satellite platforms until they glow enough to be mashed together as a second source of light in the night sky.

and of course, letting them have the planet then secreting long-incubating viral weapons into their dropship crews. hey you know what it is and you've got an counter agent, so the end result is free clan tech.

and of course the most underhanded way, find a way to bribe the writers into making all the clans think like the cartoon falcons.  ;D
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #13 on: 06 March 2013, 00:52:24 »
I sniped some clan pilots, then taunted them over radio waves under a false flag operation once to bring the fury of an entire cluster on a... friend. I've also lied during a batchall.

Maybe not the most dishonorable thing possible, but they're the most dishonorable things I've done.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #14 on: 06 March 2013, 01:00:55 »
Going for a practical "most dishonorable" method?

Try the WoB technique. Nuke, bio-bomb, subvert, undermine, and above all: don't give them a clear enemy. Burn the Clans while the warriors wail and thrash about uselessly in their 'Mechs.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #15 on: 06 March 2013, 03:08:13 »
Well I'd say irradiate their water supplies back on the homeworlds but it seems they've been doing that in the first place.  Failing that, I'd just flood them with pop culture.  Subvert from within and appeal to greed.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #16 on: 06 March 2013, 03:22:42 »
Going for a practical "most dishonorable" method?

Try the WoB technique. Nuke, bio-bomb, subvert, undermine, and above all: don't give them a clear enemy. Burn the Clans while the warriors wail and thrash about uselessly in their 'Mechs.

This is what I thought of doing originally. Mostly because of the joy I would take in drinking their tears. But I think ANS Kamas P81 has an equally good suggestion. Broadcast Minmay songs to make them feel all weird and stuff and then kill them when they're concentrated on their confused boners.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #17 on: 06 March 2013, 05:00:20 »
Tiger pits lined with vibrobombs in a swamp.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #18 on: 06 March 2013, 06:20:02 »
Intentionally kill Blood-Named Officers. Then retreat, watch them kill each other trying to decide who inherits the blood-name, then kill said Bloodnamed Officer again. Rinse and Repeat as they kill themselves for you.

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #19 on: 06 March 2013, 06:32:25 »
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #20 on: 06 March 2013, 07:51:58 »
Play along.

Do the whole honourable combat thing from start to finish. Have them sweep up your nation.

Turn the other castes against the Warriors. This will take years, but in the end you'll have ingested the Clans' techbase whole. Then, slowly infect their food and water supply. Strangle them in their sleep. You'll even have freeborn Warriors in their touman somewhere too.

Betrayal is the most dishonourable thing you can do. And defeating one Clan like this will instill paranoia in all Clanners. They won't be able to hold the worlds they took, because they lack the numbers and the trust.


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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #21 on: 06 March 2013, 08:08:42 »
Defeat them and then say "This defeat brought to you by Clan Wolverine."
That would at least make the Bears' blood boil.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #22 on: 06 March 2013, 08:32:48 »
Find something that kills Trueborns, all trueborns.  Something insidious that gets into the ecosystem and is impossible to totally be rid of.  Spread it everywhere, across all your worlds, across every Clan held world you attack.  Make the very Inner Sphere they wish to rule a lethal poison to them.  Invade all you want, you can never live here, ever.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #23 on: 06 March 2013, 09:28:58 »
nuke 'em from orbit. Only way to be sure after all.
What he said. Ortillery is also a good way to destroy the clans
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #24 on: 06 March 2013, 09:46:36 »
Something involving infantry.  Maybe a pre dawn raid while everyone is in their beds.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #25 on: 06 March 2013, 09:50:04 »
There are no dishonorable ways of killing the clams - just more effecient ways. ;D

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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #26 on: 06 March 2013, 10:04:07 »
There are no dishonorable ways of killing the clams - just more effecient ways. ;D
Just as long as I get to use weapon-grade butter during the clean-up. ;)
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #27 on: 06 March 2013, 11:56:22 »
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #28 on: 06 March 2013, 13:00:12 »
I think making the fear that Vlad expressed to Victor come true: make them sell out.  Put them on lunch boxes and in TV reality shows and hire them as merceneries and such untill you've subverted their culture with comercialism so compleatly that even the Sharks/Foxes feel a bit dirty about it, even if they're so hooked that they can't stop.

And having made a pile of money off them in the process makes it all the sweeter, rather than having to spend a bunch on nukes and bio weapons and cyber soldiers.
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Re: Most dishonorable way to defeat the Clans
« Reply #29 on: 06 March 2013, 13:19:05 »
Find something that kills Trueborns, all trueborns.  Something insidious that gets into the ecosystem and is impossible to totally be rid of.  Spread it everywhere, across all your worlds, across every Clan held world you attack.  Make the very Inner Sphere they wish to rule a lethal poison to them.  Invade all you want, you can never live here, ever.

Been tried, failed to kill them all, their scientists are too smart.

Nukes make them angry and they have more than you
Ortillery requires you to get in system past their warships, and they have more than you.  More aerofighters too.

The dishonorable batchall thing works fine as long as your reserve force is three times their reserve force.  Break the bid and they'll drop their entire force on you.

The problem with really truly acting dishonorably is it really truly makes clanners mad.  They respond to lack of honor without honor rules.

Genocide is your best bet... Preferably executed 100% effectively by drone.


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