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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #30 on: 27 January 2021, 08:33:08 »
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Can I has a Ghost Bear Cub?  See you have two!
If you recall, the Rasalhague unit captured a Ghost Bear Cub that hangs out their officer club pretending it's a rug before it does playful ambush.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #31 on: 28 January 2021, 01:42:10 »
Quote from: Wrangler on 27 January 2021, 08:33:08
If you recall, the Rasalhague unit captured a Ghost Bear Cub that hangs out their officer club pretending it's a rug before it does playful ambush.

Cute, wounder what will happen when the cub gets bigger ;D
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #32 on: 28 January 2021, 05:26:30 »
Quote from: SteelRaven on 28 January 2021, 01:42:10
Cute, wounder what will happen when the cub gets bigger ;D

I'd guess that it could be semi-tame kinda like  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4E9yrGczbk&ab_channel=OrphanedWildlifeCenter  / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvKVGL95wDw&ab_channel=OrphanedWildlifeCenter

Jimbo here was a Kodiak (he sadly passed away a few years ago) and he was raised as a cub by the chap there and he was quite friendly with other people (and performed roles in movies where they needed a bear) but he's still a huge omnivore and even if he didn't mean to hurt you a bit of a rough and tumble swipe could easily hurt (bear claws are not sharp and not retractable but when there's that much weight and strength behind them, skins pretty much paper). And a Ghost Bear is considerably bigger than a Kodiak, and more predatory. So it depends on the bear's personality, he could be quite a friendly if terrifying bear, or it could be a case of him needing to be sent somewhere (a zoo or something) purely to survive and for the safety of everyone around him.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #33 on: 22 September 2021, 15:06:29 »
I think the part about the ghost bear species actually having six limbs is a relic from when the developers intended the Clans to be actual aliens invading the Inner Sphere. I think it was Michael A. Stackpole who suggested making them the descendants of Kerensky and the SLDF, but by then a lot of details had been fleshed out by the time he started writing Blood of Kerensky so it got left in.

Later it was probably retconned as artistic license on the part of Jorgensson and Tseng, or whoever designed it in the first place. To me at least, the extra arms makes their insignia look more like a snowflake.





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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #34 on: 22 September 2021, 15:49:29 »
that's a good idea :) With the Logo though, we know from Herb that originally the Ghost bear was suppose to be a 6-limbed alien ursine like beasty, but somehow that got lost in translation and the artist drew it as a big, shaggy bear, and they just seemingly went 'eh whatever' and didn't get it changed and went with it, resulting in a 4 legged bear.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #35 on: 23 September 2021, 11:30:16 »
Quote from: marauder648 on 22 September 2021, 15:49:29
that's a good idea :) With the Logo though, we know from Herb that originally the Ghost bear was suppose to be a 6-limbed alien ursine like beasty, but somehow that got lost in translation and the artist drew it as a big, shaggy bear, and they just seemingly went 'eh whatever' and didn't get it changed and went with it, resulting in a 4 legged bear.

Odd. I don't remember being the one to say that.

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« Reply #36 on: 23 September 2021, 14:28:30 »
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #37 on: 23 September 2021, 16:32:15 »
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #38 on: 23 September 2021, 19:30:03 »
I never took the insignia so literally but I suppose a six legged Bear would certainly be extraterrestrial. It could be the rule of cool or perhaps some sort of symbolism. Why does the Wolf Clan insignia have so many stars? I do believe the Invading Clans Sourcebook published long ago illustrated a four legged Ghost Bear.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #39 on: 23 September 2021, 20:17:05 »
Feel compelled to once again to complement the artist, it is great work.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #40 on: 24 September 2021, 06:13:55 »
Quote from: Takiro on 23 September 2021, 19:30:03
I never took the insignia so literally but I suppose a six legged Bear would certainly be extraterrestrial. It could be the rule of cool or perhaps some sort of symbolism. Why does the Wolf Clan insignia have so many stars? I do believe the Invading Clans Sourcebook published long ago illustrated a four legged Ghost Bear.

Aye and it was that old art that I wanted to get replaced because it was horrid and looked like an overly aggressive shagpile rug with claws.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #41 on: 24 September 2021, 06:16:40 »
I always thought symbol of the Clan was that bear was fast in it's attacks.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #42 on: 24 September 2021, 08:55:32 »
Quote from: Wrangler on 24 September 2021, 06:16:40
I always thought symbol of the Clan was that bear was fast in it's attacks.

It's an ambush hunter -- a long period of being still, then exploding into action when the prey is close....

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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #43 on: 24 September 2021, 16:15:02 »
Quote from: marauder648 on 24 September 2021, 06:13:55
Aye and it was that old art that I wanted to get replaced because it was horrid and looked like an overly aggressive shagpile rug with claws.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #44 on: 29 September 2021, 05:47:08 »
Maybe the number six has some sort of significance in the Ghost Bear iconology? Much like the Falcons and the letter 'D' (and katana).
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #45 on: 29 September 2021, 15:40:03 »
Maybe they just thought that it looked cool.
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #46 on: 15 October 2021, 18:13:36 »
IIRC one of the earlier quotes was about one of the C* Primuses during the 2nd? SW having dream visions of a bunch of wild animals attacking the IS.
One of them was a 6 legged bear.
Then we got the actual symbol/icon & the quote from Lethal Heritage.


But other than those early small notes everything else has been standard 4 legs.


My own Head-cannon is that he clan symbol represents many swiping claws of the bear & not an actual 6 legged bear.
The Primus was right after the Minnesota Tribe affair so maybe had insider knowledge from Wolverine refugee records or battle cam footage or something.
And just change intermediate to rear in Phelan's description and all is well.

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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #47 on: 20 October 2021, 16:41:47 »
The artist did great work
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #48 on: 12 June 2022, 14:55:05 »
To turn this on it's head; If you revised the CGB crest to four legs, you could easily work the legs into a (St.) Cameron Cross or a Cameron Cross into the legs...
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #49 on: 12 June 2022, 22:52:56 »
Quote from: beachhead1985 on 12 June 2022, 14:55:05
To turn this on it's head; If you revised the CGB crest to four legs, you could easily work the legs into a (St.) Cameron Cross or a Cameron Cross into the legs...

Oooh...I like that!
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Re: Ghost Bear - Species art.
« Reply #50 on: 28 July 2022, 05:00:07 »
Quote from: marauder648 on 22 October 2020, 03:48:44

And yeah, Ghost Bear's are HELLA massive, standing anywhere around 6'5 - 7 feet tall at the shoulder and if they rear up anywhere up to around 16 feet tall. Able to look a few squat mech's in their cockpit.


I read in Trial by Chaos about their size, and yea their big. Clan Elementals are nothing compared to this.
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