Author Topic: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck! (Read 251797 times)

Kidd · « **Reply #1470 on:** 01 March 2018, 07:09:49 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 01 March 2018, 07:05:28

Yikes i didn't know there was serious challenges with VLS system.

He was talking about the Mk 13/26 launchers.

VLS is the future. Probably distributed systems such as is used by the DDG-1k Pyramidheads, cold launched, quad packed, multi compatible, etc

Kidd · « **Reply #1471 on:** 01 March 2018, 10:41:56 »

Read about the British M-class freaks of nature: M1 submarine-monitor, with a 300mm cannon; M2 submarine-aircraft carrier, lost with all hands; M3 submarine-minelayer...

Feenix74 · « **Reply #1472 on:** 01 March 2018, 21:10:28 »

Quote from: Nightlord01 on 28 February 2018, 04:51:56

Do these launchers make my stern look big? ;D

Quote from: sadlerbw on 28 February 2018, 13:12:12

Yes, but the radar masts have a slimming effect!

Is that a Mk13 missile launcher on your deck or are you just glad to see me?

HMAS Canberra (II)

Wrangler · « **Reply #1473 on:** 01 March 2018, 21:18:56 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 01 March 2018, 21:10:28

Is that a Mk13 missile launcher on your deck or are you just glad to see me?

HMAS Canberra (II) in 2009, getting a big send off.

Fat Guy · « **Reply #1474 on:** 01 March 2018, 21:42:05 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 01 March 2018, 07:05:28

Yikes i didn't know there was serious challenges with VLS system. That really bad news, no wonder why they never went to put them on the OHP when they were still in service.

The issue with the OHPs was that the SM-2 was longer than the SM-1 and wouldn't fit in the magazine, and the hull wasn't tall enough to expand it to fit the SM-2.

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #1475 on:** 02 March 2018, 00:18:13 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 01 March 2018, 21:18:56

HMAS Canberra (II) in 2009, getting a big send off.

That's Adelaide my old girl :-)

Quote from: Fat Guy on 01 March 2018, 21:42:05

The issue with the OHPs was that the SM-2 was longer than the SM-1 and wouldn't fit in the magazine, and the hull wasn't tall enough to expand it to fit the SM-2.

Then how did the RAN achieve this very feat in 2003? Can't fit SM2-ER, but you can get SM2-MR.

Quote from: Kidd on 01 March 2018, 07:09:49

He was talking about the Mk 13/26 launchers.

VLS is the future. Probably distributed systems such as is used by the DDG-1k Pyramidheads, cold launched, quad packed, multi compatible, etc

Indeed I was, sorry if it was unclear.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #1476 on:** 02 March 2018, 01:36:44 »

This is ex-HMAS Canberra (II) http://www.hmascanberra.com.au/

Quote from: Nightlord01 on 02 March 2018, 00:18:13

Then how did the RAN achieve this very feat in 2003? Can't fit SM2-ER, but you can get SM2-MR.

Because we cheated ^-^

HMAS Sydney (sister ship to Adelaide and Canberra) Mk 41 VLS

We protruded the launcher above the deck O0

Anyway that's not a ~~knife~~ launcher . . . This is a launcher ^-^

HMAS Canberra (III)

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #1477 on:** 02 March 2018, 03:23:49 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 02 March 2018, 01:36:44

This is ex-HMAS Canberra (II) http://www.hmascanberra.com.au/

Because we cheated ^-^

HMAS Sydney (sister ship to Adelaide and Canberra) Mk 41 VLS

We protruded the launcher above the deck O0

Anyway that's not a ~~knife~~ launcher . . . This is a launcher ^-^

HMAS Canberra (III)

The Mk 41 holds ESSM in quadpacks, the Mk 13 holds SM2-MR and RGM-84 Harpoon. Trust me, the Mk 13 magazine can easily hold SM2-MR. We didn't cheat at all. :-)

Wrangler · « **Reply #1478 on:** 02 March 2018, 07:26:58 »

Wait, i didn't know that Smaller VLS Launchers were able to house Harpoons. I know the US Navy didn't bother with VLS for them, but i hadn't heard of the smaller cell launchers mounting them. You need certain kind as well. I assumed that Perrys were mounting the Self-Defense version of the Mk 41s given the room problems. I had known Auss Perrys did mount them and always thought it was strange the US didn't op to refit some of the youngest Perrys with them so they weren't completely neutered.

hoosierhick · « **Reply #1479 on:** 02 March 2018, 08:28:31 »

I had completely forgotten that the Australian navy had a new Canberra. That really makes me wonder why the U.S navy has named one of the new LCS Canberra.

DoctorMonkey · « **Reply #1480 on:** 02 March 2018, 08:31:06 »

Quote from: hoosierhick on 02 March 2018, 08:28:31

I had completely forgotten that the Australian navy had a new Canberra. That really makes me wonder why the U.S navy has named one of the new LCS Canberra.

Hoping to sell LCS's to the Australians?

Weirdo · « **Reply #1481 on:** 02 March 2018, 09:12:24 »

Respect and recognition for past joint ops, such as WWII?

ColBosch · « **Reply #1482 on:** 02 March 2018, 09:38:41 »

Well...you know how Hanse Davion had Capellan Confederation star systems printed on his wedding dishes?

Kidd · « **Reply #1483 on:** 02 March 2018, 09:46:57 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 02 March 2018, 09:12:24

Respect and recognition for past joint ops, such as WWII?

Said recognition not extending to consideration that HMAS Canberra and USS Canberra might work side by side apparently :D

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #1484 on:** 02 March 2018, 09:55:43 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 02 March 2018, 09:38:41

Well...you know how Hanse Davion had Capellan Confederation star systems printed on his wedding dishes?

O0

Not even a picture that's awesome

sadlerbw · « **Reply #1485 on:** 02 March 2018, 10:13:25 »

Quote from: Kidd on 02 March 2018, 09:46:57

Said recognition not extending to consideration that HMAS Canberra and USS Canberra might work side by side apparently :D

It's OK, you can just call the US one the Ameri-Can 8)

I am Belch II · « **Reply #1486 on:** 02 March 2018, 10:21:49 »

That 8cell VLS upgrade seems like a downgrade from the Mk13 launcher with 40 missiles ammo.

Kidd · « **Reply #1487 on:** 02 March 2018, 10:27:22 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 02 March 2018, 10:21:49

That 8cell VLS upgrade seems like a downgrade from the Mk13 launcher with 40 missiles ammo.

It was added to, not replacing, the Mk.13 launcher, giving the Aussie-cans the ability to fire SM-2MR Standards and Harpoons from the Mk.13 and ESSMs from the VLS.

@Nightlord1, do you know what was previously in the space where they stuffed the VLS?

Weirdo · « **Reply #1488 on:** 02 March 2018, 11:55:52 »

Quote from: Kidd on 02 March 2018, 09:46:57

Said recognition not extending to consideration that HMAS Canberra and USS Canberra might work side by side apparently :D

Clearly the Aussie ship is more Canberra than the American one, so in a joint op you'd have USS Canberra and HMAS Canberrer. :)

And if any mishaps occur, the heavy lift ship called in would be MV Can-Bearer. ;D

worktroll · « **Reply #1489 on:** 02 March 2018, 12:43:03 »

It'll be simple. There'll be HMAS Canbra, and USS Can-Berrah. See also Melbin/Mel-Bourne, Tronno/Tor-Ontoh.

hoosierhick · « **Reply #1490 on:** 02 March 2018, 13:45:52 »

So what happens when the Tronno and Tor-Ontoh make a port call in Taranto? ;D

worktroll · « **Reply #1491 on:** 02 March 2018, 14:05:25 »

Much wine is drunk. The crew get drunker. Much maudlin singing, and the captain of the Tor-Ontoh wonders how his underpants ended up on the town hall flagpole.

RoundTop · « **Reply #1492 on:** 02 March 2018, 14:30:58 »

Then it gets really confusing when the HMCS Toronto arrives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Toronto_(FFH_333)

Gotta love their crest:

Feenix74 · « **Reply #1493 on:** 02 March 2018, 16:46:07 »

Quote from: DoctorMonkey on 02 March 2018, 08:31:06

Hoping to sell LCS's to the Australians?

Noting that the Independence-class LCS is designed and built by Austal USA (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Austal Limited, a public company, listed on the Australian Stock Exchange and headquartered in Henderson, Western Australia).

So technically Australians are selling LCS's to Americans . . . ;D

USS Canberra (LCS-30) will be an Independence-class LCS

worktroll · « **Reply #1494 on:** 02 March 2018, 17:18:45 »

It's a SeaCat!

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #1495 on:** 02 March 2018, 23:32:22 »

Quote from: Kidd on 02 March 2018, 10:27:22

@Nightlord1, do you know what was previously in the space where they stuffed the VLS?

To be honest, it varies from ship to ship. On Sydney, the only original Australian pattern, US built FFG upgraded, it was the Vault, man at arms store and a couple of other storerooms and some of the repair 2 flat and armoury.

On Darwin, it was just storerooms and the repair 2 flat, and Newcastle and Melbourne lost much the same as Sydney, except the vault, which is in a totally different place. Memories are hazy, since the last time I served on an un-upgraded FFG was 2006. :-P

Wrangler · « **Reply #1496 on:** 03 March 2018, 07:26:41 »

Wasn't Deck Department usually in the bow? I remember (i think) that's where it was on the US commissioned ships.

Wrangler · « **Reply #1497 on:** 03 March 2018, 07:31:15 »

Walking the flight line on a Canberra-Class LHD. Flight deck was looking for debris to prevent engines sucking it the aircraft's engines.

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #1498 on:** 03 March 2018, 13:20:14 »

50 and done.