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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #60 on: 26 April 2013, 17:41:09 »
OHMYARGH!!!! That cover art is gorgeous!  [drool]

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #61 on: 26 April 2013, 17:43:01 »
On Facebook Randall posted the names of the units:
Tian Zong is correct, the other one is the Calliope.

He also posted pre-final versions of the Oni and Scimitar Mk. II. If you don't like Facebook and their tracking cookies, I mirrored them here: http://hpgstation.de/2013/04/tro-3145-vorschaubilder/
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #62 on: 26 April 2013, 17:55:19 »
Yay for the Tiang-Zong. Thats one of my most wanted right there and then
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #63 on: 26 April 2013, 20:55:57 »
Hmm, Calliope . . . MML9 and . . . plasma rifle?

I really do not see any other weapons on it, so . . . fast & armored?
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #64 on: 26 April 2013, 22:02:29 »
Hmm, Calliope . . . MML9 and . . . plasma rifle?

I really do not see any other weapons on it, so . . . fast & armored?

I was thinking that myself.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #65 on: 26 April 2013, 22:19:22 »
Is that Oni a battle armor?  If it is, that REALLY looks like a Bearhunter on the arm...don't see any other weapons besides some kind of Battle Claw, so it could be a medium suit and thus designed to swarm with that gun.  No visible JJs, but that's not so big a thing with that angle.

The Scimitar is a cute little missile boat but I'm wondering...are those a batch of lasers under four? SRMs or is it something more potent, I wonder...
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #66 on: 26 April 2013, 22:31:01 »
Hmm, Calliope . . . MML9 and . . . plasma rifle?

I really do not see any other weapons on it, so . . . fast & armored?
I only count 5 launch tubes on the left arm/weapons pod, so MML-5 or LRM-5 and then there's that looks so ballistic weapon to me. The weapons on the right side look twin-LPPC to me

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #67 on: 26 April 2013, 23:00:06 »
Fixed. Sorry... Have a look at 3145 Mercs' Jade Hawk entry.

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #68 on: 26 April 2013, 23:32:02 »
I only count 5 launch tubes on the left arm/weapons pod, so MML-5 or LRM-5 and then there's that looks so ballistic weapon to me. The weapons on the right side look twin-LPPC to me

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #69 on: 26 April 2013, 23:40:56 »
Hmm, Calliope . . . MML9 and . . . plasma rifle?

I really do not see any other weapons on it, so . . . fast & armored?

The arm looks like a two-weapon array to me... Blazer cannon?
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #70 on: 26 April 2013, 23:49:27 »
You are looking at the wrong 'Mech...
The Calliope is the one on the left in the coloured image isn't it?

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #71 on: 26 April 2013, 23:51:22 »
No, my money's on that being some kind of fancy Raven. The Calliope is the one that looks like a baby Centurion - and that doesn't look like a dual-weapon on the right arm, I think I see a distinct central barrel. I'm gonna wager it's a plasma cannon to go with that MML-9.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #72 on: 27 April 2013, 00:16:27 »
The second image? Yeah that's a MML-9, but I'd say it paired with a Gauss Rifle by the firing after effects on the barrel

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #73 on: 27 April 2013, 00:44:19 »
The second image? Yeah that's a MML-9, but I'd say it paired with a Gauss Rifle by the firing after effects on the barrel

Interesting... Maybe a LGR? I could see that working on a stealth design.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #74 on: 27 April 2013, 01:00:19 »
Do we have any idea of weight, speed or the like? I plugged the basis of the design into SSW (GR, MML-9, 6 tons of ammo, 2 tons each type) and I'd say 50-65 tons works

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #75 on: 27 April 2013, 01:20:19 »
No, my money's on that being some kind of fancy Raven.

It may be a production version of the Raven 3X from XTRO Liao, compare the art for that version with the cover.

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #76 on: 27 April 2013, 01:25:27 »
The chest armor of the Oni looks like a face......

I expected that the autocannon will turn into a drill. :D
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #77 on: 27 April 2013, 01:28:37 »
It may be a production version of the Raven 3X from XTRO Liao, compare the art for that version with the cover.
Possible, the RVN-3X Raven X has an MRM-10 with Apollo, which would explain the five missile tubes and the two energy weapons on it's right side could be the two MXPL

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #78 on: 27 April 2013, 01:56:00 »
 :o That color art is coooooool :o

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #79 on: 27 April 2013, 03:13:29 »
The chest armor of the Oni looks like a face......

I expected that the autocannon will turn into a drill. :D

Just wait to see how it combines with a Shiro
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #80 on: 27 April 2013, 04:06:37 »
Interesting... Maybe a LGR? I could see that working on a stealth design.

I'd actually bet on it being a Hyper Velocity AC, it is Capellan after all and they do like HVACs.

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #81 on: 27 April 2013, 04:18:12 »
High end medium at least I'd say Dragon Cat

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #82 on: 27 April 2013, 08:50:24 »
No, my money's on that being some kind of fancy Raven.

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #83 on: 27 April 2013, 12:02:07 »
I'd actually bet on it being a Hyper Velocity AC, it is Capellan after all and they do like HVACs.

HVAC, Stealth Armour MML9+ Artemis, Guardian or Angel suite on a Medium or a light you're not going to get much more on.

Given the name I'd wager the Calliope is Canopian, though as the two nations are now joined at the hip womb I admit there is little reason to quibble about the 'Mech's origin. That said: Great Cat please don't let that be an HVAC of any variety!  #P

If it is some kind of long range design (LGR or HVAC) then stealth armor would be rather nice, though it may be worth noting that Artemis IV would be useless with that kind of heat profile as there would never be a reason to disengage the stealth armor. [EDIT: Could one use Angel ECM for both stealth armor and for ECCM to allow ArtIV to function? That would be rather neat] More than likely we don't have long to wait to find out though.

My current (completely uninformed and useless) speculation: Either a MAF trooper with a plasma rifle, MML-9 combo or a medium stealth sniper with a LGR and MML-9.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #84 on: 27 April 2013, 14:30:35 »
Does anyone else think the arm weapons on the Tian Zong look like heavy lasers???  I'm sure they're not, but that hexagonal housing is familiar.

The Caliope looks cool.  MML9  and LGR sounds right.  Would be a good combo on a fast well armored medium.


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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #85 on: 27 April 2013, 14:39:40 »
See, HMP told me it could be a 6/9 60t mech with the Plasma Rifle w/3t ammo, MML w/3t ammo, ES, Stealth and 13 DHS in the engine and CASE for the MML ammo @ 83% of max armor (168 points).  Load that thing with 2 LRM tons and infernoes and it can work over the conventional side of a LCT pretty well.  Plasma fire for grenadier squads . . .
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #86 on: 27 April 2013, 20:13:54 »
In that color picture, that other mech looks like the Raven X, also it looks like a Narc launcher attached to the missile launcher

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #87 on: 27 April 2013, 20:24:24 »
On Facebook Randall posted the names of the units:
Tian Zong is correct, the other one is the Calliope.

He also posted pre-final versions of the Oni and Scimitar Mk. II. If you don't like Facebook and their tracking cookies, I mirrored them here: http://hpgstation.de/2013/04/tro-3145-vorschaubilder/
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #88 on: 28 April 2013, 00:06:58 »
High end medium at least I'd say Dragon Cat

My initial thought was 50 or 55 what it actually screamed was Centurion still is big gun, missile pack decent speed I suppose every age needs one
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #89 on: 28 April 2013, 01:28:20 »
I just don't understand all the rear firing weapons on the mechs in the book. It just seems like a bad idea, if you get a emeny behind you, you have been playing it wrong.
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