Bad choice challenge.

[Cannonshop]

Design a BAD battlemech.  Something just genuinely comprised of 'looks good on paper, performs horribly in the field'.

Worse than your opinion of the SHD-2H Shadowhawk.

Suggested angles: mobility of a heavy with the armor of a light, too much ammo for too few weapons, the wrong heat-sinks for the weapons and movement load, etc. etc.

bonus points for using more advanced tech than is reasonable.

[Crimson Dawn]

I am thinking something along the lines of using a XXL engine, stealth armor, and single heat sinks.  I give it then a bunch of missile launchers with ammo everywhere with some high heat energy weapons.  Give it TSM and a super charger and if there is room jump jets. 

The mech will be fast and I assume hard to hit and looks to be designed to bring up the heat but with the stealth armor and engine the mech will likely blow itself up.

[RevenVrake]

My dear, are you tired of those pesky Battlearmor sneaking up on you? Hull Down Tanks got your goat? Can't find your glasses?

Well you need to invest then in a Brand Spanking New "Super Charger!" The absolute last word in scouting for the modern battlefield!
Constructed on a proven and classic frame the Super Charger sports the latest and greatest. The mech's original foolproof armament has been upgraded to pulse models, giving enhanced accuracy and even anti-infantry abilities! The mech has a booster equipped in a MASC system to help you when you really need to motor along, with Beagle and Guardian systems letting you see and shut up all those pesky electronic gadgets people have nowadays!

And finally, to help you avoid those folks who wanna collect, we've fitted it with Fifteen and a Half tons of Stealth Plate Armor! No one will see you! And we're even thinking of your spares situation as our heating system uses classic but proven heat sinks to help your mech without breaking your bank account!

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"Super" Charger S-CGR-1A2

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3072
Cost: 23,937,720 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,540

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 400 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (108.0 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor
Armament:
    5  Small Pulse Lasers
    1  Beagle Active Probe
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     122 points                8.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             400                      26.50
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8 (10)
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             21                       11.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               4.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Stealth Armor                AV - 247                 15.50
    Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     25           40       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     17           26       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     13           26       
                                             L/R Leg     17           34       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Pulse Laser                            RA        2         1         1.00
Small Pulse Laser                            LA        2         1         1.00
Small Pulse Laser                            RT        2         1         1.00
MASC                                         RT        -         4         4.00
Small Pulse Laser                            LT        2         1         1.00
Beagle Active Probe                          LT        0         2         1.50
Guardian ECM Suite                           LT        0         2         1.50
Small Pulse Laser                            CT        2         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      8    Points: 15
6          2       0       0       0      4     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: ECM, STL, PRB, RCN, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

With this thing I wanted a bad battlemech but not one that would destroy itself. The Super Charger technically works (Hell, alpha strike at full run puts it at +1 heat) but no one (in their right mind) would ever buy one, hence its a bad mech.

[Speedbump]

Introducing the Awful:

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Awful AWF-8Q

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-D-A
Production Year: 3015
Cost: 6,533,370 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,437

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    3  Autocannon/10s
    1  Small Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     122 points                8.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      11.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 240                 15.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     25           30       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  19       
                                           L/R Torso     17           24       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10       
                                             L/R Arm     13           24       
                                             L/R Leg     17           33       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  HD        1         1         0.50
Autocannon/10                                RT        3         7        12.00
Autocannon/10                                LT        3         7        12.00
Autocannon/10                                RA        3         7        12.00
@AC/10 (10)                                  RT        -         1         1.00
@AC/10 (10)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
@AC/10 (10)                                  RA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 22

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      8    Points: 14
3          4       3       0       0      4     0   Structure:  6
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 3/3/0
In all honesty this version isn't that bad. It only has 10 rounds of shooting, has 3 different ammo locations that could blow it up and is a 3/5 mech with no options beyond 15 hexes, but still got great armour. Fortunately(?) the upgrade has a solution to all those issues:

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Awful AWF-9Q

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 15,026,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,207

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Commercial
Armament:
    4  LB 10-X ACs
    1  Small Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     122 points                8.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Commercial (BAR: 5)          AV - 240                 10.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     25           30       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  19       
                                           L/R Torso     17           24       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10       
                                             L/R Arm     13           24       
                                             L/R Leg     17           33       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Pulse Laser                            HD        2         1         1.00
LB 10-X AC                                   RT        2         6        11.00
LB 10-X AC                                   LT        2         6        11.00
LB 10-X AC                                   RA        2         6        11.00
LB 10-X AC                                   LA        2         6        11.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         CT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      RT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      LT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         RA        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         LA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 12
3          3       3       3       0      4     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 2/2/2
See? Better range, a bit more ammo per gun, but the armour is commercial to save weight so this thing essentially wants to explode.

[Ruger]

I think I may have one (then again, I kind of already did with the Barghest-7S, but let's put a pin in that one, shall we?)...I've been playing around with the design in my head for at least a couple days now, and finally decided to see what it would look like...made a few tweaks to fit the parameters here, and it may be more effective than I think, but let's give it a whirl, shall we?

ANH-7W Annihilator
Tonnage: 100 tons
Chassis: Composite - 5 tons (0 crits)
Engine: Vlar 300XL - 9.5 tons
Walk MP: 3
Run MP: 5
Jump MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - 0 tons
Gyro: 3 tons
Cokcpit: 3 tons
Armor Factor: 264 - 16.5 tons
 Head: 3/9
 CT(R): 31/45(16)
 R/LT(R): 21/32(10)
 R/LA: 17/25
 R/LL: 21/30
Weapons and Equipment:
LB-10X - RA - 6 crits - 11 tons
Ammo(LB)20 - RA - 2 crits - 2 tons
Medium Laser - RA - 1 crit - 1 ton
LB-10X - LA - 6 crits - 11 tons
Ammo(LB)20 - LA - 2 crits - 2 tons
Medium Laser - LA - 1 crit - 1 ton
2 Medium Lasers - CT -2 crits - 2 tons
2 LAC-5's - RT - 4 crits - 10 tons
Ammo(LAC)60 - RT - 3 crits - 3 tons
Amo(LB)10 - RT - 1 crit - 1 ton
CASE - RT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
2 LAC-5's - LT - 4 crits - 10 tons
Ammo(LAC)80 - LT - 4 crits - 4 tons
CASE - LT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
Jump Jet - RL - 1 crit - 2 tons
Jump Jet - LL - 1 crit - 2 tons

Of course, I just gave generic splits for the ammo...personally, I'd use 2 tons of the 5 tons of LB ammo for cluster rounds, and I'd use 4 tons of the LAC ammo split evenly between armor-piercing and precision with the rest either all standard rounds, or maybe two tons of standard rounds and 1 ton of flechette (edit: or flak)...

Ruger

[Sabelkatten]

The ultimate city defender. Not one, not two, but THREE AC/20s. three times the armor, six times the firepower of the Urbanmech!

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UltraUrbanMech UUM-180H

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/D-E-D-A
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 7 805 167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 672

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 200 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 21,6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32,4 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    3  Autocannon/20s
    1  Small Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10,00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                200                       8,50
    Walking MP: 2
    Running MP: 3
    Jumping MP: 2 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT                                               4,00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             19                        9,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 5 LA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               2,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 288                 18,00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           41       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  20       
                                           L/R Torso     21           27       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  15       
                                             L/R Arm     17           30       
                                             L/R Leg     21           37       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/20                                RT        7         10       14,00
Autocannon/20                                LT        7         10       14,00
Autocannon/20                                RA        7         10       14,00
Small Laser                                  LA        1         1         0,50
@AC/20 (5)                                   HD        -         1         1,00
@AC/20 (5)                                   RT        -         1         1,00
@AC/20 (5)                                   LT        -         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 4

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 17
2j         5       5       0       0      4     0   Structure:  8
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 4/4/0

[Alsadius]

How about this dedicated command mech?

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Command Mech
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: Vlar 300 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 32 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Advanced Motive: none
Jump Jets: Standard
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor: Standard
Cockpit: Command Console
Armament:
Large Laser
C³ Computer
C³ Computer
C³ Computer
C³ Computer
Angel ECM Suite
Communications Equipment (10 tons)
Manufacturer: Inner Sphere
Communications System: Standard
Targeting & Tracking System: Standard

Type: Command Mech
Technology Base: Inner Sphere / 3075
Ruleset: Advanced (5th edition)
Tonnage: 100
Cost: 21,852,000 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,459
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: Standard 10.0
Engine: 300 19.0
Type: Fusion
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 10 [10] 0.0
Gyro: Standard 3.0
Cockpit: 6.0
Armor Factor: 304 19.0
Internal
Structure Armor
Value
Head 3 9
Center Torso 31 45
Center Torso (rear) 16
L/R Torso 21/21 31/31
L/R Torso (rear) 11/11
L/R Arms 17/17 33/33
L/R Legs 21/21 42/42
Weapons and Ammo Location Crits Tons
Large Laser LA 2 5.0
C³ Computer RT 5 5.0
C³ Computer RT 5 5.0
C³ Computer LA 5 5.0
C³ Computer RA 5 5.0
Angel ECM Suite CT 2 2.0
Communications Equipment LT 10 10.0


BattleForce 2
MP Damage PB/M/L Overheat Class
3J 1/1/- - A
Armor/Structure Point Value Specials
8/8 15 -[/quote]

[Sabelkatten]

Lacks a portable HPG... ;)

[Simon Landmine]

The ultimate city defender. Not one, not two, but THREE AC/20s. three times the armor, six times the firepower of the Urbanmech!

The problem is, I now want to build that in MegaMek and drop it into a congested city map, just for fun ...

[Crimson Dawn]

How about a mech that is using compact engine, gyro, reinforced structure, 1 ton of hardened armor on the head, and the rest ferro lamellar on a 100 ton mech as much as possible?  Give it some jump jets and maybe the watchdog CEWS along with armoring all important parts of the mech (for example the gyro and engine).  I would also give it a hatchet or 2 with TSM.

The mech would look good since it would have good maneuverability for its size and be the toughest mech around.  At close range it would be a monster but it is difficult for it to get close if anything pays attention.  More importantly I do not think it could hold very much weaponry even clan energy weapons but it would be worth looking into it.

It may never die but will it be an effective mech of war?

[lucho]

Man, this is a hard one; I just can't intentionally make a bad mech. But how about this one?

Somebody got the idea in their head that bigger is better ( hmmm, lyran?  ::) ), so they put the single biggest engine they could find, an engine better suited to dropships and put it in a mech. Add TSM and a retractible blade (an overengined assault mech with a retractible blade but no hands ...   :P ) and there you go.
A Cyclops with a switchblade coming at you at 97.2kph  :D :D :D

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Scary Cyclops Ah-Ha
Base Tech Level: Experimental (IS)
Level            Era   
-----------------------
Experimental  3113-3129
Advanced        3130+ 
Standard          -   
Tech Rating: F/X-X-F-F

Weight: 90 tons
BV: 1,712
Cost: 216,490,275 C-bills
Source: homebrew

Movement: 5 (6) / 8 (9)
Engine: 450 XXL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Compact Gyro

Internal: 138 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 271/279 (Light Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               29     44   
Center Torso (rear)               10   
Right Torso                19     30   
Right Torso (rear)                 8   
Left Torso                 19     30   
Left Torso (rear)                  8   
Right Arm                  15     30   
Left Arm                   15     30   
Right Leg                  19     36   
Left Leg                   19     36   

Weapons            Loc  Heat 
------------------------------
ER Small Laser      LA    2   
ER Medium Laser     CT    5   
ER Medium Laser     CT    5   
Snub-Nose PPC       LA   10   
Small Pulse Laser   HD    2   

Equipment               Loc 
-----------------------------
Triple Strength Myomer   LA 
Triple Strength Myomer   LT 
Triple Strength Myomer   RT 
Triple Strength Myomer   LL 
Triple Strength Myomer   RL 
Triple Strength Myomer   RA 
Retractable Blade        RA 


Yeah, I didn't need the compact gyro, just use standard armor, but where's the fun in that?

[Daryk]

I did an Amaris Hunchback around here somewhere... I'll dig it up tomorrow...

[Daryk]

Found it!  If a MechWarrior just holds down the triggers, it can fire through all five shots for both AC/20s before hitting 30 heat.  Whether its armor will last that long is a completely different question...

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HBK-Amaris
Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/D-E-D-A
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 2,783,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 733

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 100 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 21.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Autocannon/20s
    1  Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      83 points                5.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                100                       3.00
    Walking MP: 2
    Running MP: 3
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                        2.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               1.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  80                  5.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            8         
                                        Center Torso     16           10       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  2         
                                           L/R Torso     12           10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     8            8         
                                             L/R Leg     12           10       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Laser                                 HD        3         1         1.00
Autocannon/20                                RT        7         10       14.00
Autocannon/20                                LT        7         10       14.00
@AC/20 (5)                                   RT        -         1         1.00
@AC/20 (5)                                   LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 16

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 7
2          3       3       0       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 2/2/0[/quote]

[Sabelkatten]

Actually... If you strip the lasers, extra SHS, and 8.5 tons of armor from a standard Hunchback you can fit a second AC/20 with the original engine... ;)

[ANS Kamas P81]

Crapmaster 9000
 Mixed (Base IS)
45 tons 
BV: 1,192
Cost: 7,324,965 C-bills

Movement: 3/5(8)
Engine: 135 Compact
Heat Sinks: 10
Cockpit: Small Cockpit
Gyro: Compact Gyro

Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 89/153 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               14       13
Center Torso (rear)                  4
Right Torso                11       10
Right Torso (rear)                   3
Left Torso                 11       10
Left Torso (rear)                    3
Right Arm                   7        8
Left Arm                    7        8
Right Leg                  11       12
Left Leg                   11        9

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
iNarc (OS)                      CT     0
Streak SRM 2 (OS)               CT     2
Streak SRM 2 (OS)               CT     2
Streak SRM 2 (OS)               CT     2
Streak SRM 2 (OS)               CT     2
ER Medium Pulse Laser (Clan)    HD     6
ER Medium Laser (Clan)          LA     5
ER Medium Laser (Clan)          RA     5
ER Medium Laser                 LA     5
ER Medium Laser                 RA     5
ER Small Laser (R)              RT     2
ER Small Laser (R)              LT     2

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
MASC                            RT
Supercharger                    CT
Targeting Computer              LT

Featuring technologies from across the inner sphere, including the latest and greatest from the Clans as well as the Star League era's bleeding edge of development, this 45 ton machine brings a hyper-accurate missile barrage, a Blakist-developed, now Sphere-wide improved NARC beacon deployment system for its lancemates, and a laser barrage that nothing in its weight class could stand up to - and the finest in targeting hardware to put that laser power on target.  And yet all of this firepower, all of this technology, is just as fast in the sprint as any other machine in its weight class, often faster!  Five percent savings on pre-order lowers the cost to below seven million C-bills, an inexcusable bargain impossible to pass up on!

[Daryk]

Actually... If you strip the lasers, extra SHS, and 8.5 tons of armor from a standard Hunchback you can fit a second AC/20 with the original engine... ;)

I'm pretty sure that would be more expensive, though... :)

[Ferrosol]

Sick and tired of having to bring an overweight and heavy hunchback every time you want that AC/20?  So were we. So here at Quickcell we tasked our desperate band of rejects from better companies crack team of engineers to design the cheapest and lightest mech capable of carrying an AC/20. Meet the Humpback.

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Humpback HUM-B4K

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 4,189,568 C-Bills
Battle Value: 778

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 175 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/20
    2  Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Quickcell
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      58 points                3.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             175                       3.50
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               2.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  80                  5.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     11           12       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     8            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     6            7         
                                             L/R Leg     8            9         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/20                                RA        7         10       14.00
2 Medium Lasers                              LA        6         2         2.00
@AC/20 (10)                                  RT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 26

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 8
5          3       3       0       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 2/2/0

 Not only does it possess nearly the same firepower as the classic Hunchback but it is much faster and uses mostly proven and reliable technology. Ask your local mech dealer today and you could get 5% off your next order with us.*

_{*some assembly required, special offer not valid in the St. Ives' Compact. Quickcell is not responsible for any unexpected shutdowns caused by heat sink failures. Consult a doctor before driving.}

Quickcell! Because if you could afford better you wouldn't be shopping with us!

[(SMD)MadCow]

Bad Choices? Pft, more like Davion Christmas...ACs, ACs everywhere.

[Daryk]

I'm thinking over 4M C-Bills is a little rich for Quickscell's blood... you can do an AC/20 at 40 tons with either 5/8/0 or 4/6/4 movement and acceptable (if not maxed) armor for under 3M...  The 5/8/0 model even uses the same engine as the original Hunchback, making it a logical cheap replacement.

[Ruger]

Sick and tired of having to bring an overweight and heavy hunchback every time you want that AC/20?  So were we. So here at Quickcell we tasked our desperate band of rejects from better companies crack team of engineers to design the cheapest and lightest mech capable of carrying an AC/20. Meet the Humpback.

Isn't there already an Urbanmech with an AC/20?

Granted, it only has 5 shots for its AC, and only a small laser for backup, but it's still only 30 tons...

Ruger

[Sabelkatten]

There is. Introtech at that.

If you want to make it a really bad idea upgrade that to an UAC/20 or HGR. ;)

[ANS Kamas P81]

There is. Introtech at that.

If you want to make it a really bad idea upgrade that to an UAC/20 or HGR. ;)

Pff.  Pedestrian.

UrbanMech UM-R60
IS experimental
30 tons 
BV: 562
Cost: 2,683,200 C-bills

Movement: 2/3/2
Engine: 60 XL
Heat Sinks: 10
Cockpit: Small Cockpit
Gyro: XL Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 50/105 (Light Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               10        7
Center Torso (rear)                  2
Right Torso                 7        5
Right Torso (rear)                   2
Left Torso                  7        5
Left Torso (rear)                    2
Right Arm                   5        5
Left Arm                    5        5
Right Leg                   7        5
Left Leg                    7        5

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle     RA/RT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Improved Heavy Gauss Ammo       RT     4

UrbanMech UM-R60
 Mixed (Base IS)
30 tons 
BV: 480
Cost: 2,676,700 C-bills

Movement: 2/3/2
Engine: 60 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Cockpit: Small Cockpit
Gyro: XL Gyro

Internal: 51 (Composite)
Armor: 48/105
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               10        7
Center Torso (rear)                  2
Right Torso                 7        5
Right Torso (rear)                   1
Left Torso                  7        5
Left Torso (rear)                    1
Right Arm                   5        5
Left Arm                    5        5
Right Leg                   7        5
Left Leg                    7        5

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Long Tom Cannon                RA/RT    20

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Long Tom Cannon Ammo            RT     5

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Composite                      None

I admit I had to go with Clan HS because IS DHS don't fit; you get left with a lot of two-crit locations and one sink left to put in.  So I went gloriously disco instead.

[TheUnknownSpecimen]

Have you Ever felt you weren't able to carry Enough Inferno Ammo, Well Look no Further than 'The Flame'? It has as much inferno ammo as a guy could ever want. In fact, It has exactly 39 tons of SRM-2 Ammo, that is equal to 1950 Missiles for your 6 SRM-2 Missile Launchers. It will be your most En-flaming... Fiery... Fire...  Armed Mech yet.

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Flame FLM-1A

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 111,665,479 C-Bills
Battle Value: 355

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 400 XXL Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Commercial
Armament:
    6  (CL) SRM-2s
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   152 points                5.000
    Internal Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine:             XXL Engine                   400                      17.483
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         (IS) Single Heat Sink        10                        0.000
Gyro:               XL                                                     2.000
Cockpit:            Small                                                  2.000
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Commercial (BAR: 5)          AV - 307                 12.802

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           47       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  15       
                                           L/R Torso     21           32       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10       
                                             L/R Arm     17           34       
                                             L/R Leg     21           42       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(CL) SRM-2                                   RA        2         1         0.500
(CL) SRM-2                                   LA        2         1         0.500
(CL) SRM-2                                   RT        2         1         0.500
(CL) SRM-2                                   LT        2         1         0.500
(CL) SRM-2                                   RL        2         1         0.500
(CL) SRM-2                                   LL        2         1         0.500
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (300)                       RA        -         6         6.000
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (300)                       LA        -         6         6.000
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (500)                       RT        -         10       10.000
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (500)                       LT        -         10       10.000
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (250)                       CT        -         5         5.000
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (100)                       HD        -         2         2.000
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 4
4          2       2       0       0      4     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0


I made this thing to be a Literal Bomb.

[Gigastrike]

In the year 3145, battlefields are dominated by a mech with no weaknesses.  With no need of support of any kind.  A mech that can do everything.  It is...*pause for dramatic effect*...the Frankentech.

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Frankentech FRT-3R Mek
IS TW non-box set
100 tons 
BV: 1,173
Cost: 8,096,267 C-bills

Movement: 2/3
Engine: 200
Heat Sinks: 20
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 152
Armor: 248/307
                     Internal    Armor
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Center Torso               31       39
Center Torso (rear)                 12
Right Torso                21       26
Right Torso (rear)                   8
Left Torso                 21       26
Left Torso (rear)                    8
Right Arm                  17       27
Left Arm                   17       27
Right Leg                  21       33
Left Leg                   21       33

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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AC/2                            RT     1
Machine Gun                     RA     0
Light Machine Gun               RA     0
Heavy Machine Gun               RA     0
SRM 2                           LT     2
Narc                            RA     0
LRM 5                           LA     2
LB 2-X AC                       LT     1
iNarc                           LA     0
AMS                             LT     1
TAG                             LA     0
MRM 10                          RT     4
Streak SRM 2                    RT     2
Thunderbolt 5                   CT     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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AC/2 Ammo                       RT    45
Heavy Machine Gun Ammo          RA   100
Light Machine Gun Ammo          RA   200
Machine Gun Ammo                RA   200
SRM 2 Ammo                      LT    50
LRM 5 Ammo                      LA    24
Narc Pods                       RA     6
LB 2-X AC Ammo                  LT    45
iNarc Pods                      LA     4
AMS Ammo                        LT    12
MRM 10 Ammo                     RT    24
Streak SRM 2 Ammo               RT    50
Thunderbolt 5 Ammo              CT    12
LB 2-X Cluster Ammo             LT    45
iNarc ECM Pods                  LA     4
iNarc Explosive Pods            LA     4
Narc Explosive Pods             RA     6
SRM 2 Narc-capable Ammo         HD    50

Equipment                      Loc
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Standard                       None


[Tyler Jorgensson]

Your FrankenTech doesn't have a Small Laser of Doom installed.....

[Daryk]

Easily corrected, I think... just halve one of the tons of MG ammo... :)

[Wereling]

Am I wrong to think the Battle Hawk is bad enough? Small, slow for its size, short-ranged, and expensive?

[Gigastrike]

Your FrankenTech doesn't have a Small Laser of Doom installed.....

The concept was to have as many minimally effective, ammo-dependent weapons and equipment which each an entire ton of ammo devoted to them.  This worked for the machine guns, but maybe not for the ACs.

[Sabelkatten]

Am I wrong to think the Battle Hawk is bad enough? Small, slow for its size, short-ranged, and expensive?

The Battle Hawk arguably fits in the "Dare to design..." challenge. I've used it to great effect bodyguarding LRM boats.

[Dapper Apples]

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Hwatcha
HWT-R1

Config:Biped
TechBase:Inner Sphere
Era:?
Rules Level:3
Cost:1,816,597 C-bills
BV:399

Mass:15
Engine:135 XL Engine(IS)
Structure:IS Standard
Myomer:Standard

Heat Sinks:10 Single
Walk MP:9
Run MP:14
Jump MP:0

Armor:Standard(Inner Sphere)
LA Armor:4
RA Armor:4
LT Armor:6
RT Armor:6
CT Armor:8
HD Armor:9
LL Armor:6
RL Armor:6
RTL Armor:2
RTR Armor:2
RTC Armor:2

Weapons:3
Rocket Launcher 15, Right Arm
Rocket Launcher 15, Left Arm
ER Small Laser, Center Torso
An exercise in minimalistic design, the Hwatcha is a super light raiding mech with a Catapult-like appearance (reverse joint legs with missile pod arms).  The main use for the mech is to make skirmishing "bombing runs" in small packs, using its rocket launchers to devastate a target, then leave once its payload is "dropped".  The small laser is an atherthought hold out once the rockets have been used.

While some commanders may favor the cheapness of the mech, it has a bad rep amoung mechwarriors.  They see it as not much more than a metal coffin, offering little to ensure the pilot actually gets home.