BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat
Administration and Moderation => BattleTech News => Catalyst Asks You! => Topic started by: HABeas2 on 03 May 2013, 19:53:38
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Hi, there!
So, here's a new question from the BattleTech Line Developer for this month. Picture, if you will, the following scenraio: Your BattleTech books have turned to dust. Your BattleTech PDFs have been erased. Your miniatures have melted into worthless puddles of pewter, plastic, and resin. All that is BattleTech--and only all that is BattleTech--no longer exists. After overcoming the shock and horror, you pick yourself up and play ... something else.
What are your first three game choices?
This is not a poll, so answer away, but please try to keep to the basics of the question: In a world without BattleTech, what are your three most likely alternatives?
I figure we can run this question for....oh, let's say two months, ending on Sunday, 30 June 2013.
Thanks in advance,
- Herbert Beas
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Off the top of my head, board games. Not the wal-mart toy aisle stuff, but game store stuff. Like games from Fantasy Flight and Plaid Hat Games.
Maybe Dust or Warmachine if if I could talk some friends into it.
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Miniatures: Warmachine
Board: Arkham Horror
Video Game: N/A
Sport: Hockey
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Shadowrun
Warhammer 40k
D&D
In that order.
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Leviathans. I'd probably pick up Flames of war or GHQ.
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D&D
Civilization (computer)
Acquire/Tigris and Euphrates/other board games
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I'd be on the streets selling drugs.
Oh, and playing Flames of War or something like that. While selling drugs. ;D
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I play board games, but I LOVE the Arcanis universe of RPG.
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Flames of War
GURPS
Leviathans
(no particular order)
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1- Leviathans
2- Finding something else to do other than play a board game, like spend more time at the archery range.
Seriously. I'm old and stuck in my ways. Not much in the game market even interests me now. I love the BT universe and game. I'm getting to love the Levs universe and game a lot.
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40K, Leviathans, or something out of a big box from FFG
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If you consider just time spent playing:
Warmachine
Pathfinder(D&D)
Legend of Five Rings (CCG and RPG)
If you don't include MegaMek, I already play all of those more often than BattleTech.
However, if you include the time spent reading up on some facet of the game or its history, developing adventures/scenarios, or just plain daydreaming about, BattleTech has always been my first game. If that were to end, L5R would be my next obsession.
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I'd be on the streets selling drugs.
Oh, and playing Flames of War or something like that. While selling drugs. ;D
You're doing better than me. I'd be sitting in the apartment, watching the paint peel.
Oh, and playing Borderlands. Definitely Borderlands.
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Civilization or Railroad Tycoon on the computer.
Dungeons & Dragons of some stripe for RPG.
If I picked up a new miniatures hobby it would probably be building model trains.
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I'd play Heavy Gear.
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D&D, Computer games and the ladies. O:-)
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In no particular order:
ZynVaded!
Heavy Gear (must have Big Giant Robots!)
Pathfinder
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D&D
Traveller
And Civilization on my computer.
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I am really not sure, although I do tend to float between various video games so it would probably be some combination of those.
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I'd go with Flames of War and Civilization on my PC.
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NetRunner
Munchkin
Zombies!
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In no particular order:
Mekton Zeta
CAV
Jovian Chronicles and/or Heavy Gear (nearly the same system, different settings)
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Heavy Gear Blitz
Dropzone Commander
Warmachine
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Dust Warfare, Carcassonne, and Fortune and Glory.
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D&D or War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition. Other than that, I've pretty much grown out of the gaming phase, so I'd probably spend a lot more time working on more mundane projects like hunting, fishing and gardening.
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Heh, first post here.
1. Renegade Legion: any of the games in that FASA series
2. Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay
3. Warhammer Fantasy Battles
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Warmachine
ZynVaded!
Heavy Gear
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I wouldn't be a gamer at all
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Shadowrun first and foremost. love that game
Crimson Skies (I still play it) but since its dead, lets say Leviathans.
3rd? Various other rpg's. Deadlands. Warhammer fantasy roleplaying, warhammer 40k roleplaying. Hate the tabletop though. no strategy. just 'buy more'
need more shadowrun in our battletech. not the different races, or monsters, or magic. But... hacking. Battletech could use hackers.
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Various RPG's like we do now.
Oh, would my AToW be gone too? I've been thinking of adapting it to play in the Fallout universe, so if it's still around, that.
- Shane
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Hi,
Presume BattleTech in all forms is gone. That would also mean no computer/video game renditions, and no RPG. It all went poof, and there's a BattleTech/WechWarrior-shaped hole in the universe.
Thanks,
- Herb
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Hi,
Presume BattleTech in all forms is gone. That would also mean no computer/video game renditions, and no RPG. It all went poof, and there's a BattleTech/WechWarrior-shaped hole in the universe.
Thanks,
- Herb
Blagh! Gotta be a WoB conspiracy.....
Well back to Harn, Cyberpunk and computer games.
- Shane
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I'm primarily into BT for the storyline, and get to actually play around once a year. If this universe would vanish, I'd channel my energies and spare time into reading other books and playing RPGs. No other miniature game/boardgame would take its place.
My RoleMaster group has been playing weekly for 14 years and RPGs are the games I'd play instead of BT.
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Dreadball
Deadzone (current kickstarter)
robotech (current kickstarter)
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Haven't got a clue, but it would have to a universe as well developed as the BT Universe. It was the novels that got me into this game and that's what it would take for me to get into a new one. I know I wouldn't be playing Warhammer (too many rules change, too mcuh money, WYSIWYG). I'd probably go back to play D&D or just give up gaming altogether
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Well I need in my life: Spaceships, Missiles and Mecha.
Battletech is the only game that give all of these (with good aesthetics). In fact it is the only boardgame that I play, this is partly because I can't into fantasy (often looks too silly to me) or historical stuff, I am pretty much a hardcore scifi fan.
Videogames: EVE Online (Spaceships & missiles), and I would continuously seek a new mecha game that would offer a good storyline.
Boardgame: Would likely give Infinity a go, but would likely also try to make my own game, would likely base it upon anime such as: Bubblegum Crisis, Gasaraki, Patlabor.
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If BattleTech had never existed, I'd not spend a fair amount of my spare time updating Sarna. So, my best guess is that I'd end up playing more boardgames, mostly Arkham Horror and Android... in fact, Arkham Horror in particular as I sometimes moderate Play By Forum games over on boardgamegeek (although there are a stack of games I'll happily play, like Zombicide/Small World/Elder Sign/Stone Age/Drum Roll).
I'd probably spend more time playing Magic: The Gathering, and I'd hope to get more time in with my local Dark Heresy RPG group. It's difficult to pick three games in particular though, because I'd rather play most games than not play anything at all. I've been given a few computer games over the years that I've never had the time to sit down and play, so maybe I'd play more PC games, like I was 10 years ago or so.
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I play a lot of wargames, so based on my current ones:
-Warmachine/Hordes
-Dropzone Commander
-Leviathans
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Leviathans.
Starmada, plus a smattering of other starship games.
Some sort of WWII game, such as A&A Minis, GHQ, FoW, or whatnot.
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1. War hammer 40k/Fantasy
2. Pathfinder
3. Flames of War.
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Miniatures: Properly give up doing them
Board: various random choices, Heavy Gear, Mekton, Hydrogen (RPG)
Video Game: Random
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Warmachine, Leviathans, Dust Tactics
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Ooh, tough one. For simplicity, I'm going to stick to miniatures-based tabletop wargames that incorporate building and painting into their structure.
In no particular order:
1. Got to include shadowrun. Great structure, and looking forward to the new ruleset coming out soon.
2. One of a few of Games Workshop's specialist games (ok, so it's more than 3 games, but they're uncommon enough that the amount that I get to play all of them combined amounts to less than any other single game system I play).
3. Any decent RPG, though zombie-themed ones are a favourite. Probably DnD though, if I had to pick one.
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Flames of War
Star Frontiers
GURPS
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GURPS
General Quarters 3rd Edition
A Fistful of TOWs
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Pathfinder and CAV Strike Ops probably.
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Hi,
Presume BattleTech in all forms is gone. That would also mean no computer/video game renditions, and no RPG. It all went poof, and there's a BattleTech/WechWarrior-shaped hole in the universe.
Thanks,
- Herb
Boardgames: NIGHTFIGHTER
PC Games: Ground Control, Alien Legacy
Hobby: Building paper models.
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If this were a question of "If I hadn't gotten my start in BT, then what would it be...", then my answer would be card games and board games, including the stuff in the Wal-mart toy aisle. That's what I grew up on. My grandmother was a master at Yahtze. My dad got me into RPGs for a short time, so I might have gone that way, too.
However, if this is a matter of "If it were to happen today, after all I've seen and done and been...", then my answer would be, I wouldn't give it up. I'd have to have amnesia to not recreate the game in some fashion, and I would do just that. I have plenty of starts in other games that I could fashion my own miniatures and everything.
I like the system too much to give it up, and I'm one that's been looking at ideas of my own, and helping people out with ideas of theirs.
There's just nothing else that compares.
If I had to go quick and dirty in the mean time, I'd probably go with some other giant robot game, like Heavy Gear or Jovian Chronicles, or even the new Robotech game... or the old Palladium one. I've been exposed to enough stuff that I have lots of fall-back options when I'm bored. Even card games like Magic: The Gathering. Yes, I've dabbled in 40k and other games like it (Vor), and I've seen other hex-games like the Renegade Legion suite and OGRE and Leviathans. Still look at new stuff, too.
But, super tanks and flying battleships don't interest me as much as giant walking Avatars of destruction, especially ones that can take lots of hits and dish out lots of punishment in return.
The idea is now stuck in my head, I'd find a way to recreate it from scratch if I had to.
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D&D (a homebrew 3.25 most likely, though we are finsihing a very old 2nd ed campaign at the moment) or some other d20 system (Star Wars d20,
Magic: The Gathering. My friend got me hooked.
I'd like to get going with a good Shadowrun campaign again. I played for a bit a while back but the group scattered because of life and etc.
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Ogre/GEV from SJG
Heavy Gear from Dream Pod 9
Dropzone Commander from Hawk Games
EDIT: And I would be fiddling around with HG, because I hate the MOS rolls, and DZC would be bought for the figures.
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Robotech, Mekton Zeta, Heavy Gear...maybe Traveler. In addition to the things i play already like Shadowrun and L5R.
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Ultima Online. A freeshard. playing right now even.
D&D. I need to get back to building the world for our next campaign.
Something with hexes and counters. Maybe Star Fleet Battles since I have a few hundred SSDs printed.
Meow Liao
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Wellsir, I'd likely go with Steam, and get back into Flash gaming, and never see the light of day again. Of course, there would be regular meets at my place for Shadowrun, Big Eyes, Small Mouth, and Human Occupied Landfill.
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Warhammer 40K
Star Trek Tactical Starship Combat Simulator / RPG
Shadowrun 2nd Ed
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Star Craft.
Portal.
Inconsequential party games with no real depth or investment.
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DnD (probably 3.5 edition), various computer games (mostly strategic, grand scope games like Crusader Kings 2, Europa Universalis, and the like), and chess. Yes, I like chess, despite sucking at it.
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Heavy Gear Blitz
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I'm not sure if "play" is the operative term in my case; since I got properly into BattleTech as a setting, I've been collecting books mostly for the background material included. (While I plan to get Alpha Strike at some point, I don't yet know if I'll be in a position to actually play it.)
Tabletop/RPG/background-wise, I'm already into the Star Fleet Universe, so I'd pretty much stick with that if the BT-verse did not exist. I used to play other franchises, but faded away from them a number of years ago. (I did get The Sixth World Almanac for Shadowrun, the rule books for A Call to Arms: Noble Armada, and a few of Holistic's older sourcebook PDFs for Fading Suns, but I wouldn't say that I'm really "into" either setting the way I am with the SFU and the BT-verse.)
I haven't really played any of the computer games in this franchise either, so I probably wouldn't be missing out on those either way.
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assuming I was playing anything anymore
I would do Warhammer Fantasy with Mordhiem for small stuff
FOW to get my WW2 fix and probably a GURPS game of some sort
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Blood Bowl/Mordheim/Necromunda for my miniatures fix. I've tried 40k, fantasy, warmahordes, etc, but there's something about the rag tag unit of mercenaries, with more detail and less figures (and some RPG elements) that really works for me. I'd miss mech customization like hell, but RPG elements in the specialist games would help make up for it a little.
Various board games, but in particular something co-operative /and/ competitive, like Fury of Dracula, Shadows Over Camelot, or Battlestar Galactica. I like and play these already, but would probably step it even more into gear. (In a perfect world, there's a board/card game involving a crack group of comguards during the Jihad, one of which might be working for the WoB which you guys put out. I would give you AllMyMoney)
Something with a deep universe to read a ton of. Something like L5R, though it would be a whole lot more reading, than playing. And I'd read Dune a bunch. And maybe some more of the 40k novels set during the Horus Heresy. But again, as a setting, less as an actual game.
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Warhammer 40K
Shadow Run Duels Clicky game (I really wish this one would came back)
Mecha Front
Robotech Miniatures game (either the fan made online rules, or the Palladium game)
Gundam tactics (online rules for a fan made game)
Hordes
Write my own game
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Absolutely nothing. Not that I play much now, but BattleTech is the last game that I still collect and read through the books. I have made exactly two non-BT game purchases in the past three years, and both purely for nostalgia's sake. If BattleTech was gone I'd leave the hobby entirely.
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- GURPS (Especially Transhuman Space)
- Warmaster (The recently-cancelled large scale 10mm fantasy/historical game)
- Full Metal Anorak (Especially but not exclusively Dirtside)
Honestly, I during the Clix years, there was a BattleTech-shaped hole in the universe, as far as I was concerned. Dirtside was my replacement for BattleTech, and I still love it. The system is brilliantly clean and simple, and you have Stargrunt to "zoom in" for very small scenarios at 15mm. It's good even for playing in the BattleTech universe (its own universe is a little... skeletal, to but it charitably).
For RPG, I'd still pick GURPS over AToW, even for a battletech game. Transhuman Space is a great setting that has a unique feel that I greatly appreciate, and some of the best economics I've seen in an RPG. Eliminate the richness of 25 years of BT world-building, and I'd be playing THS exclusively.
GW cancelled Warmaster last week, but I still have the minis and love them (and there's significant historicals support for them as well from third parties). Haven't played in a long time, but presumably it would fill in some of the void.
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If the question is limited just to board games, Levs would probably lead the list, followed by anything from FFG. Talisman and Descent are probably my favorites, though I enjoy Arkham Horror a great deal as well.
Without a physically-present RPG group, I don't see that being a real possibility, but virtually anything that catches my fancy is a possibility. Still looking for a good spy RPG.
Video games, well, that's what I do with most of my large blocks of free time as it is. Too many to name.
The loss of BattleTech would affect me severely in terms of having much less to read, so I would probably plow through some of the other novel series I have floating around here.
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Interesting.
Battletech is what got me into gaming, and what has connected me to most of my gaming friends.
So if Battletech never existed, I might not be a geek, or at least not much of one.
On the other hand, I did play a bit of Risk with my dad as a kid, and I was introduced to Settlers of Catan in college. So I guess it'd be more in the vein of those sorts of games.
Sheesh. Thank you Battletech from saving me from a very lame geekdom. :/
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I would go back to playing Vampire: The Masquerade & Magein leiu of AToW. I would also play naval games 'cos I love black and blue navy stuff. Leviathans is a gimme. The occasional computer game like Masters of Orion. I cant sit still as long as I used to.
Heck, more time spent riding my motorcycle and hiking were it not for this Mecha hobby.
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In no particular order:
Leviathans,
Warhammer 40K,
Robotech Tactics(when it comes out)
Actually, I would play more of those, since I already play all of those plus BattleTech
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Chess
Malefiz (-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malefiz)
Modding Rome Total War
Teaching my child good manners (most difficult *game* ever ;) )
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1 D&D
2 M:TG
3 mage wars
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No Battletech and especially no Clan Wolf.......(Gave up on Star Wars figures)....I guess I would be no gamer at all.And be considered "Normal"
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Absolutely nothing. Not that I play much now, but BattleTech is the last game that I still collect and read through the books. I have made exactly two non-BT game purchases in the past three years, and both purely for nostalgia's sake. If BattleTech was gone I'd leave the hobby entirely.
This, almost verbatim
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1. Starfleet Battles.
2. One of the editions in Games Workshop's Epic scale games, not sure which.
3. Flames of War.
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Over the years I have tried to start many additional miniature games but none of them every really stuck like battletech did. I figured it was a mixture of the story/universe and the giat robots that keeps me coming back.
If not for battletech (miniature/tabletop game-wise) I would be playing;
CAV
One of the futuristic 15mm massive army games (gruntz, future war, etc...)
Dropzone Commander
-Gunz
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1. Star fleet battles mixed with Attack Vector complex 3D and a history to go along with it!
2. Leviathans, well designed historical >:D or maybe Dust, the others are to simple.
3. What ever the historical group is running this week.
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Gamewise? Leviathans, Starfire, maybe Dust. Never really thought about it. Battletech is my game.
lot mor Battlestar Galactica Online.
on the sidewise? Go looking for the next ex-Mrs Stormlion.
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...nothing.
When mood fits, that's once per century, I could read other fiction or play unrelated computer games, but not a lasting thing.
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Dust, Dust and more Dust.
I've really been getting into that game lately, and building an Allied army
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Legend of the Five Rings (NOT the CCG)
Heavy Gear
Warhammer 40K (RPG mostly)
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Car Wars, maybe? Home ruled mini game of Twilight 2K? Harpoon...
It's been 20 years since I played something else, for crissake...
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1. Advanced Civilization (boardgame) by Avalon Hill
2. Flames of War
3. Slaughterloo
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Legend of the Five Rings ... and none other.
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Command Decision (WWII Minatures Game)
Pike and Shot
Flames of War
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Assuming Battletech went to dust right now, gone before my eyes:
1. Guild Wars 2
2. Firefall
3. Some Indie Game title that catches my eye each month
I don't do many board games, I'd probably just keep trying out everything my group wants.
However my fanaticism would not stick to them. Only these three choices I listed.
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Infinity, board games, and maybe dust
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What are your first three game choices?
I'm not sure I can answer in just 3 choices, because BT provides for me 4 sources of relaxation.
1. BT Novels:
2. BT Board/Miniatures Game:
3. BT RPG:
4. BT Video Games:
But I can say what "Games" I have immersed myself in in the past in relation to those 4 catagories
1. Novels: Shadow Run + D&D (Realms/Krynn)
2. Board/Miniatures Game: 40K
3. RPG: Shadow Run + D&D (Realms/Krynn)
4. Video Games: Heroes of Might & Magic & several Blizzard games (Warcraft/Starcraft/Diablo).
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In a world with no Battletech?
D&D
Shadowrun
World of Darkness
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Hmmm ....
Leviathans, W40K Epic, 1st edition AD&D
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Heavy Gear
Warmachine
Flames of War
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3,5 D&D
Leviathans
Kult
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There's nothing really around that get's my interest besides Battletech, though I guess if push came to shove I could get back into wargaming - WW2 & Napoleonic Wars tabletop games.
Dave.
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AD&D,,,stillhave all my books from 81'(not to mention minis)
boothill,topsecret,,,,and 6 other boxed RPG's from the early days
Panzer Leader(and any AH games)which was big in the 70's,got 5 box set's so we could have mass battles at the Div/Corps level(Blue and the Gray,special mention)
Then the Mecha craze of the mid-80's lead me here. ;D
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Oh BT is my only Board game so there will be only various RPG's and Computer Games which change yearly
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Robotech RPG and hopefully the board game if I can afford it.
Rifts/Palladium Megaverse
Star Wars 1st and 2nd rule editions, not the new version available now.
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Boardgame: Dreadball
Mini wargame: 40k
RPG: Pathfinder
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Star Wars 1st and 2nd rule editions, not the new version available now.
Clarification: West End Games 1st and 2nd Edition and not the FFG game? Or WotC 1st and 2nd Edition and not Saga Edition?
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When the BT universe would be gone...hm, I think I would turn to the other SF universe I know quite much about (by reading the books): Star Wars.
I don't know what exactly I would do there, but it would be Star Wars.
Oh, and I would have a regularly Shadowrun group.
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BattleTech is really the only tabletop game I actually organize games around. Otherwise, it's boardgames in a pick-up/social setting or video games.
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I'm very much into themes, so:
- Axis & Allies miniatures, all 3 installments.
- White Wolf's Vampire, the CCG and the RPG as well.
- as much as I hate to say it: I would probably go back to Warhammer 40k, Necromunda or some related fan-made variant
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Is anybody else using this thread to compose a shopping list?
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While I play a lot of other games, Battletech has always been my favorite setting for about 14 years (when I found my very first battletech novel).
After that White Wolf's Pen and Paper RPG systems has always fascinated me. I love their Werewolf and Mage settings, while I love the story of Mage more, I love the combat, territory, and team focus of Werewolf more.
Second would be D&D. While I still try and get games online for D&D, I'd rather run a friend or two through a Btech Campaign using MekHQ and MM.
My last option would be a return to League of Legends.
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I have been playing Battletech as my main Board/war game for 26 years, I do and have played other games as well - if there was no Btech then I would probably be playing ;
1. Heavy Gear or CAV
2. Tomorrow's War
3. Silent Death
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Clarification: West End Games 1st and 2nd Edition and not the FFG game? Or WotC 1st and 2nd Edition and not Saga Edition?
The West End Game ones. I don't have any of the other ones. I'm not even sure I've seen some of them.
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Pathfinder
Zombicide
Leviathans / CAV (not sure which as I own both but have played neither)
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Best guess, but as Battletech is what got me in to playing not sure would be. Twilight 2000, Dust, axis and allies war at sea.
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Honestly, Battletech is the only tabletop game I have been interested in. Having just picked it up in the last year and a half, I would say:
Not Tabletop
Video Games
Main Stream Science Fiction novels (as replacements for sourcebooks, etc.)(starwars, halo, etc.)
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Flames of War, Warmachine and D&D
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Mr. Beas, will you maybe tell us one day why you asked us this? ;)
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Mr. Beas, will you maybe tell us one day why you asked us this? ;)
I'd assume it's so that they can gauge their assumptions about what their competition is, and indirectly see what people want from the game by seeing what other games they like.
Someone who loves Battletech primarily for its richly, deeply developed game universe would likely also love L5R, for example.
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There are many things you could do with an informal poll like this.
- You could run a survey of BT players that includes questions like these, and then you have an idea about how much your forum customer resembles the rest of your customer base.
- Instead of benchmarking against your customer base, benchmark against the targeted market segment. (The most vocal, visible proponents of the Harley Davidson brand, for example, may not represent the typical consumer or even the most profitable consumers. Cater too much to the hard core customers and you alienate the silent majority)
- ID competitors (as stated)
- Use it to infer other preferences (do people process this as a board game, a wargame, a separate hobby, or an RPG?)
- Identify possible cross-marketing opportunities. Are BT players likely to play other games? Can we get them into Shadowrun? Are BT-oriented media viable ad channels for other brands to use?
- Determine vulnerability to competitors/substitutes.
- Planning for changes in retailing (brick and mortar/print to online/pdf); Just how important is having the footprint at the FLGS to building and maintaining market share? Versus an online-only model that costs much less but might limit the player base.
- Determine possible cross-licensing deals. If people are into the BT universe in particular, then they're likely to watch a BT movie, buy BT comic books, drink BT-branded scotch, etc.
That's just off the top of my head. Of course, polling the forums is very imprecise, but they may also be measuring the magnitude of the imprecision. Or doing some routine and preliminary exploratory research that will help guide their marketing research activities. Even in a small, low-budget operation, there's a lot you can do that can help improve decision-making.
Also, Herb might be curious.
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In no particular order:
Mekton Zeta
CAV
Jovian Chronicles and/or Heavy Gear (nearly the same system, different settings)
I think I misunderstood the original question. I thought the question was: What mecha games would you play if BT never existed. I have no idea how I did that after rereading the OP.
So my corrected answers are (in no particular order):
Warzone/Mutant Chronicles.
Mekton Zeta or CAV.
HERO System or GURPS or Savage Worlds.
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Axis & Allies.
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I'm fairly certain Herb does this just to see how many people can follow simple instructions.
To see if his freelancers are more or less capable than everyone else.
(I think I'm kidding).
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hm, so this is a test?
Ktulu or TORG was fun, too. Back in the days...
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Considering I haven't played Battletech in probably over a year now(I don't really count MegaMek against the bot) the conditions of this question may as well have happened.
For actually sitting down at a gaming table with other people alternative I only have one. Pathfinder.
For what actually consumes the most of my free time though? Computer games. Toss up between World of Tanks and Star Wars the Old Republic for top billing there these days with the occasional bit of Minecraft.
Third would be watch TV/Netflix/Youtube.
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Probably Dungeonsand Dragons in some form as far as RPG, Harpoon for TT gaming and World of Warcraft for my computer gaming. Levs is trhere too as well.
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hm, so this is a test?
For all we know he just had an evil idea to ask this while eating a bowl of Fruity Pebbles one morning.
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[AAAH]
Warhammer 40k
Magic TG
Drinking away my grief over the sudden and profound fact the material plane simply ejected all Battletech material from existence. :(
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Limiting things to three makes it very hard as I like playing lots of different games. Currently:
1. Eclipse: New Dawn for the Galaxy (holy cow this game is amazing!)
2. Fez (still working on translating the alphabet code)
3. Pathfinder (because I'm gm'ing a game at the moment)
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Hopefully I'd still have MegaMek :)
But if not
1)Pathfinder - For the RPG Fix
2)Traveler - For the SciFi Fix
3)Total War Series on the Computer - For the Epic Feel Fix
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Tabletop Miniature Games: Flames of War or something similar, capable of handling both large and small-scale combat in detail. That's why I play Battletech, after all.
Board Games: Axis and Allies. I need my high-level strategy fix. If you guys revamped the old Succession Wars game, or if Interstellar Operations has an updated Inner Sphere In Flames, I would be all over that.
Computer Games: A tank or fighter sim of some king, probably. or just spend more time on Guild Wars.
Role-Playing Games: Warhammer 40k and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay.
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Leviathans, and read some more.
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Everything Battletech gone? Well I guess then I would really have to start to pay that therapist guy.
No. Wait a minute...
Continuing to play in our Pen&Paper RPG group. (Fantasy) It is going on since 14 years or so.
Hearts of Iron III and Europa Universalis III are good ways to battle boredom and steal my spare time too.
Elaborate Board Games like Civilization (not the newer Risk-Clone, the old one with trading cards and stuff!) Macchiavelli (you want 8 hours packed with adrenaline and backstabbing? That fun to you? Hell yes!) or tackling with non-euclidic geometry in Arkham Horror. (Fthagn!)
Maybe I´d finish my WH40K army. (And curse the company for their outrageuous prices and "balancing efforts")
Dwarf Fortress. Downloading the latest Skyrim add-on.
Waiting even more impatiently for Star Citizen.
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Paintball
CAV
WWII Micro Armor
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Dystopian Wars by Spartan Games in the UK.
mostly Naval games but some land games as well.
It's what we are playing at present as a break from BT
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No idea. BT was what got me into P&P gaming to begin with
Otherwise? Probably the HERO system
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WWII Micro Armor (Mien Panzer)
Federation Commander. With a quick glance at the Starmada version.
Board Games.
I've been suckered by other SciFi universes in the past with game companies going bankrupt or "updating" their rules in under a year of me purchasing it. I still have several armies for Warzone and Chronopia.
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Assuming I could find a group I would go back to playing L5R in either an rrap or CCG setting. I enjoyed both, but travel time to play either is what killed it for me. I could potentially give 40k another go around since I only sold off 3 of my 5 armies. That experience probably would not last long when people started complaining about how old my minis are.
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DnD/Pathfinder
Beyond the Supernatural
SimCity (or Civ, or some other epic strategy game, like I already kind of do)
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well....if you could find expansions, I might be playing X-Wing.
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To be honest, I'm not much of a wargamer. If not for Battletech (love the setting, the story, and giant robots that aren't totally ridiculous like most anime mecha are), I probably wouldn't be playing any wargames, just tabletop and video. I tried real life once, but it sucked so I put it back on the shelf.
For tabletop games, I'd have to say, in no particular order:
Pathfinder (classic fantasy roleplay; used to be D&D, 2nd Ed through 3.5)
Shadowrun (awesome setting, awesome rules)
Rifts (awesome concept and setting, execution is sometimes flawed)
Video games would be hard to classify, mostly because new games keep coming out and some of them even dethrone previous favorites (though that keeps getting less frequent as time progresses). I think the only game I keep coming back to time and again is EVE Online (9 years).
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Tabletop games? Nothing. Battletech is the only game that I've tried thusfar that is interesting enough to make it okay to put up with those certain individuals on the fringes of the tabletop gaming world.
Any type of game goes? I'd probably be playing whatever half-baked attempt at re-creating the magic that Jagged Alliance 2 was. Technically, that's what I'm doing right now, but whatever. I'm assuming Mechwarrior went to dust too, but that's okay. I can't get invested in MWO - just not my cup of tea. WoT is fun.
Frankly, without BT, I'd have to try some other hobby. Maybe learn to tinker with cars. Who knows.
[edit] So I read this earlier in the thread:
-Determine possible cross-licensing deals. If people are into the BT universe in particular, then they're likely to watch a BT movie, buy BT comic books, drink BT-branded scotch, etc.
YES
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Well, to me there is really two issues:
- What do I replace BT the game with?
and
- What do I replace BT the universe with?
The first question is easy to answer: World of Tanks, since that game has already edged out BT in competition for my time. Other games also, of course, but they are more for when I want something different. WoT does compete in the big metal warmachines with a lot of crunchy numbers category.
Now, the second question, regarding the fluff of the universe is harder. I think I would study the Eclipse Phase setting and see if I like it, maybe get into nWoD or Eberron (in case they haven't ruined it in 4th ed). Really, it depends on what really would catch my attention and pull me in.
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GW's Lord of the Rings/Hobbit (already do play it)
Fishing - not a game, but it’s what else I'd be doing
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I think much of it is finding the right group. I've got a very good circle of friends I game with. It took years to accumulate just the right set of people. Even a great tabletop game will suck when it's played with bad or even just mediocre players.
So I read this earlier in the thread:
-Determine possible cross-licensing deals. If people are into the BT universe in particular, then they're likely to watch a BT movie, buy BT comic books, drink BT-branded scotch, etc.
YES
LOL I was wondering when someone would notice that.
You know, some liquor companies do let you buy runs of custom labelled adult beverages. And many retailers sell custom labels you can stick onto an existing bottle.
Considering what I'd imagine is the typical age of a BT player, it's actually not insane if it's done by fans as a one-off and for fun rather than profit.
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Heavy Gear. It's the best science fiction mecha game next to BattleTech.
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Russian Roulette? :'(
Firestorm Armada
Panzer Leader/Panzerblitz type games
If Battletech did not exist it would be necessary to invent it - I can't remember who I am stealing this from at this time.
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homebrew some kind of super robot wars game
heavy gear
D&D/Pathfinder
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B-Tech is my favorite game so I play it so much in different ways. Multiple online games and a our local group so when I think of what I'd replace it with, it's in those fashions.
Vampire the Masquerade - Online Campaigns
Pathfinder - On Line or Local Game
World of Warcraft - Time Waster
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Warhammer 40k
Warmachine/Hordes
Dust off my old Babylon 5 Wars
No other mecha game has ever interested me, and historical based games just seem blah ( I know who wins).
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Family : More time with my daughter
Boardgames : D&D (Classic and Alternative Space/Future Settings)
PC Games : Civilization (From 2 to 5, plus both Colonizations), Fallout (1,2,Tactics,3 and New Vegas), Defiance or Guild Wars 2 (which goes better over the first year)
A world without BT, that means also a world with a lot more space in our closets (books, minis, paper sheets, inks,...). What the hell to do with that space ???
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My top three would likely be, right now:
Rifts (or other Palladium games)
Deadlands (with a preference for the classic version)
Edit: Spot 3 is likely a tie between Pathfinder, Star Wars, and Shadowrun
Ruger
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A world without BT, that means also a world with a lot more space in our closets (books, minis, paper sheets, inks,...). What the hell to do with that space ???
Fill it with other games.
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Catan! Can't forget Settlers of Catan. Big in my social circles.
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1) Shadowrun
2) Leviathans
3) ...Er, I don't have a third one, probably be on the streets selling crack.
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I need mechs in my life, but I really can't think of something that has the same crunch I would play.
Probably would run some kind of Homebrew mod on Mekton or Heavy Gear if I could.
Otherwise
1. Star Wars D20 OT+EU
2. D&D (# ED) alternating with Shadowrun for "future" era games
3. Something post-apocalyptic Fallout style (Deadlands maybe?)
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I'd probably just play what I normally play even more - games like Magic,<Heroclix, and Heroscape.
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Without Battletech, I'd probably be doing a lot more role-playing, but the three games that would try to fill the Battletech void would probably be Heavy Gear, Star Fleet Battles, and some combination of Super Robot Wars or SD Gundam G Generation on whatever console is handy.
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So let's see
1) Dungeons and Dragons, been playing it since '75
2) Dark Heresy and others in that series, just plain cool stuff there
3) All the other games I loved are discontinued, like Aftermath and Twilight 2000
So there ya have it
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Warhammer 40k
Warmachine
Shadowrun
BTW - Please don't let there be a world without Battletech. PLEASE!!!!!
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Catan! Can't forget Settlers of Catan. Big in my social circles.
In our circles, we replace Catan with Munchkin
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D&D i suppose and Leviathans.
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Just what my group does right now.
Infinity
Pathfinder (D&D)
Interface Zero 2.0 (Savage Worlds)
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- Any Renegade Legion game (or all at the same time... if I had the time that is).
- Shadowrun RPG
- Either anything Star Wars or Netrunner (mood and time depending).
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D&D 2nd edition, older Magic the Gathering (4th ed, Ice Age), possibly a Flames of War type game.
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I would likely invent my own system, as opposed to playing a current RPG or strategy game.
Dungeons and Dragons is wonderful, but there's little-to-no online support, like MegaMek, for large-scale playing. It's a pain in the butt to find a group to get with and if you do, you likely have people in the game who you may/may not get along with. It ends up being "association by convenience."
So my answer? (1) Invent my own game or (2) play D&D and just grin/bear it.
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AD&D 2.0 with some Arduin thrown in for fun
NightLife RPG
The Warhammer fantasy game (Man O' War?) with ship mini's, dice, cards and counters it was awesome
Vid games are Oblivion (endless mods)
WoW (Endless idiots)
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 or 5
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- My ongoing trio of RPGs: oD&D, Traveller, Rogue Trader
- Arkham Horror
- Flames of War
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Robotech
Heavy Gear
D&D
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2e ADND
Starwars D6
Werewolf the apocalypse.
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Nothing - Battletech is it for me. Used to play D&D, it morphed into something I cannot understand. Also played Vampire until it died off. So, Catalyst gets all my hard-earned discretionary cash (for the moment... given the way things have been trending, I'm not sure that will continue past FM:3145 and/or IlClan).
Kamose
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Can I assume reimbursement on my now deleted/burned/melted books/minis? I...am ashamed to admit how much stuff a fellow my age owns...
Assuming that, I sink it into Dystopian Wars, Flames of War (WW2 flavor. Won't do Vietnam no way), and paying off student loans.
I choose Dystopians wars, because I have a French starter fleet and the American fleet with a bunch of supporting elements, but I want to expand both into the air aspect and a skimming fleet for my French. I had a choice between Leviathans and DW, and chose the later because it is the same rules for land, air, and sea combat, plus cool minis for the factions, and Spartan has done a good job of issuing new units/supporting factions these past two years. Flames of War, because it, 40k, and Malifeux/Warmachine/Warmahordes are the big miniatures games around here, and I like 40k's fluff, but hate the prices for what I get. Also, because I can run General Patton in my American Army, so where is your God-Emperor NOW?!
But, if I am not reimbursed, I stick with what I have and focus on school.
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Hi,
Sorry, no alternate offers. I suppose you could imagine a reimbursement of sorts (maybe in the form of "it never was, so you never paid for it"), but the core of the question boils down to what you would play if there simply never was BattleTech as an option. The how and why are immaterial for the purposes of this inquiry; I'm mainly wondering what folks would play if they didn't have BattleTech.
Hope that's a shade or two clearer.
Thanks,
- Herb
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Hmm. After being made aware of the Robotech kickstarter, I believe that puts it at my #1 choice of an alternative. Robotech is why I got into BT in the first place. :)
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Infinity << A fast and "with a cool gameplay" skirmish game. :D
Warmachine << A soft and mechanism for a rich a deep universe.
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Battletech is the only tactical wargame I have any interest in, so it wouldn't be replaced with anything similar. I'd probably just spend more time on the Harn FRP setting, some of my own homebrew settings, and get back into Traveller if I felt the need to start yet another campaign.
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1. More Historical Wargaming (no, not Flames of War).
2. More Sci-Fi RPGs like Traveller.
3. Write more I guess.
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The only miniatures game I play is BattleTech. I used to play tabletop D&D with the usage of miniatures, but I can't really say I'd go back to that. So I'd probably continue playing video games -- Planetside 2, MechWarrior Online (unless that is also forbidden), Pirates of the Burning Sea... all with the awesome BWC. (http://the-bwc.com)
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Break out the old box with all my Avalon Hills game classics ..........
Panzer Leader
Pander Blitz
Squad Leader
...... and find someone to play it with.
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shadowrun, leviathans, and I'm hearing good things about arkham horror, so i guess I'd check that out
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If there never existed BattleTech, I would have never gotten into gaming.
If it stopped, problem computer games and whatever my gaming group is playing right now. Uber-political and manipulation RPG gaming. My friend ran a Mutants and Masterminds game merged with a TORGish feel. Excellent game. Superheros that get to change reality.
Call of Cthulhu is always a great game, though characters are changed like underwear.
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AToW -would become-> House rule modified Traveller RPG
TW -would become-> Battlestations (still love that silly game)
Succession Wars -would become-> Twilight Imperium
In addition, I'd probably check out GURPS, which I haven't so far.
The rest of the time would probably be filled with D&D Pathfinder because that's what's going on around my area.
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Flames of War
Some War of Northern Aggression system (Fire and Fury, maybe?)
Something SciFi....Star Wars or Star Trek preferably
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Flames of War
Saganami Island Tactical Simulator
Robotech RPG
In the sense that play means paint...occasionally.
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2nd or 3rd edition D&D, Heavy Gear, Robotech RPG Tactics
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Infinity
Warmachine
Dystopian Wars
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I kind of dropped out of the scene after getting immersed in BT (not enough time for other games), but I guess it would be either:
- Flames of War
- Heavy Gear
- something GURPS based
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This is more what I'm playing in addition to Battletech, but it still works.
Warmachine (I've been playing off & on since 2006.)
Guild Wars 2 (Which finally broke my WoW addiction.)
Whatever RPG my Wednesday night group is doing currently (currently Pathfinder and Airship Pirates)
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Startopia (http://www.rakrent.com/rtsc/rtsc_startopia.htm)
D&D (running the game)
WH40k RPG (Preferably Black Crusade)
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Probably:
Civilization (computer based)
D & D
Settlers of Catan
No particular order
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I would probably end up playing a variety of basic board games and become heavily into RTS style video games. BattleTech is the only real family of war games I have ever played and enjoyed. Warhammer 40k was too expensive and too boring for me because everyone and their mother played Space Marines (including Chaos) in my area. So yeah... Risk, Stratego, Weapons and Warriors, Chess... Starcraft, Command and Conquer, Age of Empires... all in my sites.
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I would probly end up playing Warmachine and Flames of War
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Just saying, but I'm starting to REALLY get into some of Paradigm Concepts games right now. Arcanis I've been into for a few years now (seriously, give them a look if you like High Fantasy which focus' on actual story and not just tactical combat), but their Witch Hunter system is really starting to draw me in. If you like colonial-era history with a taste for Gothic Horror, that is the game for you guys!
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it woulda been warhammer or warhammer 40k until they turned me off by their receint policy. so it would either be flames of war or dropzone commander
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Since I got into Battletech for the fluff and story as opposed to actually playing the game it is hard to say. (I live on a small Caribbean island of around 140k people. So hobbies like this are unheard of)
I might give Leviathans a look, but the problem with alternate history games is that I feel they can never really attempt to change their timeline or move forward in it. And that is what I love about Battletech, the game started in around 3025 and now we are nearing 3150. The timeline does not sit still, the characters and borders change. And though characters change, the culture of factions stay the same. And that allows someone like myself to root for one of them and study them more thoroughly.
So I believe I might not have any replacement. And thus a lot more money in my wallet.
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BrikWars or a home brew WarHammer variant using HeroQuest, Talisman 3e and BattleMasters minis, none of which are now acceptable under GW rule sets, but are what I've got on hand. (The mere mention of BattleMasters' "Chaos Archers" once triggered an apoplectic fit of rage in a hardcore player.)
Or Descent: Journeys in the Dark.
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Hi,
Oh, sorry. This opinion solicitation has closed. Thanks all for their participation.
Thanks,
- Herb