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Title: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 20 July 2015, 18:26:32
IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)

PART I
(Great Houses)

For Part II see here (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=47591.msg1099026#msg1099026).


(Disclaimer: many of these insignia incorporate other people's works, even if usually altered, which is listed in the sources in Part II).



Lyran Commonwealth

Lyran Intelligence Corps

(http://i.imgur.com/xUR4raS.png)


Loki

(http://i.imgur.com/0jn2OUw.png)


Lohengrin

(http://i.imgur.com/13qtZJL.png)


Diplomatic Guard

(http://i.imgur.com/xfUeQW4.png)


Propaganda

(http://i.imgur.com/vEOm53m.png)


Norns

(https://i.imgur.com/yQBZDly.png) ... (https://i.imgur.com/2o7Tkaj.png)

Interpretation: I changed the Steiner fist in the background to the pattern we see in the older Intelligence Ops HB (which sported different insignia for most of the intelligence agencies), because I like it better than the generic Steiner-logo.





MID

(http://i.imgur.com/Db7w0de.png)

Interpretation: The insignia of the Military Intelligence Department is unknown as of now. I used a shield to set it apart from its civilian counterpart (the LIC). I chose the torch because it is used as symbol by many military intelligence services, including the US forces and the German Bundeswehr. (Interestingly the Bundeswehr intelligence is called MAD - close to MID...).



LCAF

Lyran Guards Brigade

(http://i.imgur.com/0jDa1Rv.png)

General Changes: the colours of the shield have been changed to the parade colours of the Lyran Guards, ensuring a common look shared by all the brigades’ regiments.  Also whenever possible I included the number of the regiment in Roman numerals. (I got that idea from the old Tenth Lyran Guards insignia, and I liked it).


3rd Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/zXBOlkG.png)


6th Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/ePA0JbD.png)


10th Lyran Guards (pre-Victorian "Thundering Elephants" and Victorian "Revenants")

(http://i.imgur.com/je4q2rs.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/fzZVcZN.png)

Changes: the crown signals the service of many Archons in this unit.


11th Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/AgpeLh8.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/3G9GYCS.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/aKNLbtP.png)

Alternative versions: Being the St. Georges’ Regiment, it seemed logical to have a traditional St. George image. The other alternative version features the wolfsangel, an ancient German tool to hunt wolves. Since the 11th LG have been fighting Clan Wolf a lot and is called the ‘Wolf Hammers’ I thought the wolfsangel is an appropriate device.


12th Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/cFaO7Ks.png)

Interpretation: I do not know if there is an official version. Being a resurrected regiment like the 8th I designed the insignia similarly, quartering the shield and choosing crossed weapons. This time it is two flanged maces, because maces are quite underrepresented imho.


14th Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/RHazrKC.png)


24th Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/wqkhgXk.png)


26th Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/R15Rlum.png)


32nd Lyran Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/blInRJV.png)

Changes: a white flag does not do it for me, even a bloodstained one, so I used the brigade’s flag with heavy blood stains.



Arcturan Guards Brigade

11th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/9EdhKSF.png)


15th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/qNlI4AF.png)


17th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/vHo5Wpg.png)


19th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/MBvzoIZ.png)


20th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/sqgM9Ng.png)


23rd Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/UQ71T0w.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/sOdhCi4.png)


25th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/pizg40X.png)


26th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/zyWm9Sg.png)

Interpretation: I do not know if there is an official version. The Arcturan Guards often use mammals for their insignia (bear, tiger, lion, wolfhound, ram), so I figured a lynx would be a good choice.



Alliance/Commonwealth Guards Brigade

1st Hesperus Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/c2okXks.png)


4th Alliance Guards

(https://i.imgur.com/SpJsZUP.png)


2nd Bolan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/xg0ws4i.png)

Interpretation: I do not know if there is an official version. The official insignia of the Alliance Guards (the predecessors) strangly looked a lot like the FedCom units they originally were, including the Suns' imagery. Being attached to Bolan now, I think they may sport the stylized Bolan-planet like the Jaegers.


1st Buena Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/RG541Bo.png)

Interpretation: Using the same logic, this one featured the stylized Buena-planet as background. The colour is conjectural.


2nd Buena Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/icHb7c2.png)



Lyran Regulars

5th Lyran Regulars

(http://i.imgur.com/AgdfkEG.png)


11th Lyran Regulars

(http://i.imgur.com/ysFAov6.png)



Royal Guards Brigade

(http://i.imgur.com/7xocqL8.png)

1st Royal Guards

Changes: I gave them more traditional looks, as usually found in heraldry. I think that fits their elevated, noble status within the LCAF.


(http://i.imgur.com/pNX0i3o.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Q2nGRiW.png)


2nd Royal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/fLN68yz.png)


3rd Royal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/B8NYslx.png)



Regional Militias

Changes: The Lyran Militias use the Steiner fist and the tri-letter designation as their insignia, I just gave it a little more detail and background.


Coventry CPM

(http://i.imgur.com/1iwAuv9.png)



Tikonov Republican Guards Brigade

1st Tikonov Republican Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/llcqDWb.png)


2nd Tikonov Republican Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/LKfZdVa.png)


3rd Tikonov Republican Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/uPPvhNF.png)



Hesperus Guards Brigade

(http://i.imgur.com/9Jcsh53.png)

Changes: The Hesperus Guards insignia is simply a modified version of the original (see here (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/4/47/Hesperus_Guards_Insignia.jpg)). It has flat colours and proportions making the eagle a little slimmer. I did not do much, since I like the original concept, but I like it soo much better now. ...and I had to resist the urge to straighten out the wings.  O:-)



Skye Rangers Brigade

4th Skye Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/hLNsSo2.png)

Changes: Rather than a modern, accurate image of Britain, I chose the oldest known map of Britain made by Ptolemy.


10th Skye Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/naBeb8M.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/SkhF3Mm.png)

Interpretation: I do not know if there is a canon logo, so I chose the St. Andrew's Cross in honour of the nickname (The Black Watch) and because it looks like a Roman 10.


17th Skye Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/0iyPRhx.png)


4th Skye Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/QnlxFcc.png)



Other Commands

1st Somerset Strikers /// Steiner Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/j7URRoV.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/emNCKBS.png)


Kaumberg Planetary Guard

(http://i.imgur.com/hF8Jf3B.png)

Interpretation: this is based on the Kaumberg planetary flag (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kaumberg).


101st Tharkad Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/00r2aYA.png)

Interpretation: The Tharkad Lancers are a unit featured in the German novel "Sturm auf Arc-Royal" (see my review here (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=50273.0)). They are said to have a silver knight on a white horse as insignia, however I added some elements from the flag of Tharkad and the number 101.


Academies

Nagelring

(http://i.imgur.com/QaDgsIk.png)


Buena War College

(http://i.imgur.com/EzqJuQ4.png)


Noble Houses

The Duke of Duran (Frederick Steiner)

(https://i.imgur.com/3aGhRFO.png)




Federated Suns


MIIO

(http://i.imgur.com/k9oAKfs.png)


Information Gathering Division

(http://i.imgur.com/t1nciHf.png)


Covert Operations Division

(http://i.imgur.com/OwkXrGP.png)


Bureau of Internal Investigations

(http://i.imgur.com/jMlLgQh.png)


Counterintelligence Division

(http://i.imgur.com/Ch8QdLi.png)



DMI

(http://i.imgur.com/q4uqtY2.png)


MI1 Command

(http://i.imgur.com/Nxp56DE.png)


MI2: Analysis and Speculation

(http://i.imgur.com/qaq8i77.png)


MI3: Electronic Information Gathering

(http://i.imgur.com/GVX9me1.png)


MI4: Covert Operations Division (the Stealthy Foxes)

(http://i.imgur.com/MLckWSY.png)


MI5: Counter-Insurgency

(http://i.imgur.com/gCexz8h.png)


MI6: Special Forces (the Rabid Foxes)

(http://i.imgur.com/SnhYGwg.png)



AFFS


Robinson Brigade

1st Robinson Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/A7ZcdXF.png)


2nd Robinson Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/HID2jSk.png)


3rd Robinson Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/7yPcJPm.png)


1st Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/xEnVwie.png)


4th Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/y1LD6Br.png)


5th Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/JdUxqwh.png)



Avalon Hussars Brigade

Alternate version: includes a sabre for being a Hussars brigade, rather than a medieval broadsword.


11th Avalon Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/IaULjtO.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jTVa0Na.png)


17th Avalon Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/mBYBYAA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Zpzf5wR.png)


22nd Avalon Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/Jy0hkT3.png) (http://i.imgur.com/eiGirNb.png)


41st Avalon Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/VsxLiMD.png) (http://i.imgur.com/INWGGFk.png)



Periphery March Guards Brigade

1st Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/FTurDBR.png)


2nd Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/LOUpPeY.png)


4th Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/nndZqGv.png)

Interpretation: the insignia is not described; from the name "Rhine" however I deduced river imagery.


5th Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/ayKsNCW.png)



Federated Commonwealth Corps

1st FedCom Regiment (4th Succession War era and post 3055)

(https://i.imgur.com/tjtueOq.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4oXiI0G.png)



Independent Commands


Kathil Uhlans

(http://i.imgur.com/YBFjnyt.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/fVvJTuq.png)

Interpretation: The insignia was never shown but described in Lethal Heritage ("embroidered on a gold background in black thread, the head and mane of a roaring lion"). I added three cavalry lances to reflect their Uhlan-designation and to honour the three original elements from which the Uhlans were raised, i.e. the Davion Light Guards, the 5th Syrtis Fusiliers, and the Kathil CMM. The water seperating the lion and the lances is an homage to Kathil's sigil.


Capellan Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/ersV1in.png)


Task Force Navarre

(http://i.imgur.com/v0cAyEZ.png)



Academies

NAIS Military College

(http://i.imgur.com/zbCP5vu.png)




Capellan Confederation

Maskirovka (pre Xin-Sheng)

(http://i.imgur.com/0VYhDxP.png)


Maskirovka Cappelan Operations Branch

(http://i.imgur.com/5jGXaCA.png)



CCAF


McCarron's Armored Cavalry Brigade

4th McCarron's Armored Cavalry

(http://i.imgur.com/YFzGJ2Z.png)


5th McCarron's Armored Cavalry

(http://i.imgur.com/s0VMuzc.png)



Warrior Houses

House Hiritsu

(http://i.imgur.com/hNlEteF.png)


House Matsukai

(http://i.imgur.com/7iIUWga.png)



Tikonov Guards

2nd Tikonov Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/1cxAIgq.png)


4th Tikonov Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/mNlK28A.png)

Changes: Instead of a halberd I used a bardiche for the 4th Tikonov Guards. The bardiche is an eastern Slavic weapon which was sometimes used in combination with a musket. So a Tikonov Guards symbol that has a musket in it is imo better combined with a bardiche than with a halberd. Both are polearms anyway.



Sian Dragoons

3rd Sian Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/ZUJpB0L.png)


9th Sian Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/rF8BEHr.png)


11th Sian Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/O9hNGv7.png)



Capellan Defense Force

1st Capellan Defense Force

(http://i.imgur.com/UWKPxeN.png)


7th Capellan Defense Force

(http://i.imgur.com/f9P3RsN.png)



Capellan Chargers

4th Capellan Chargers

(http://i.imgur.com/6IhSCHi.png)



Victoria Rangers

5th Victoria Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/3KTqIX2.png)



Other Units

Justine's Grenadiers

(http://i.imgur.com/kUCz815.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/OgFPsxK.png)


Capellan Cuirassiers

(http://i.imgur.com/T2FAj7t.png)

Interpretation: the mailed fist holding an arrow is in the centre, but surrounded by all six commonalities of the Confederation, reflecting the pan-Capellan origin. Two of them are special: the training is based on the St. Ives Lancers, so the armoured hand comes from St. Ives; Chesterton is lost but not forgotten, so it is grayed out. I though about a black band, but that did not look good.


Chesteron Guardians

(http://i.imgur.com/1xvtX7X.png)

Interpretation: no canon insignia is known, so this is based on their nickname "the Scarlet Pimpernels". And I like morning stars.



Andurien Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/uLeK7WG.png)

Interpretation: I merely flattened the colours.






Draconis Combine

DCMS


Genyosha

(http://i.imgur.com/veVgNhi.png)



Sword of Light

(http://i.imgur.com/2MHXjU1.png)

Changes: I changed the sword in the Sword of Light to a Katana, because I think it should be a Katana. [... which, however, is wrong]


1st Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/cbvBQTz.png)


2nd Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/VabsYFr.png)


5th Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/HyWqEyK.png[/img


[b]7th Sword of Light[/b]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/8Z6QDZv.png)


8th Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/7o2zAeR.png)



New Samarkand Regulars

(http://i.imgur.com/H0ctAAv.png)



Proserpina Hussars

1st Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/wsy5R4k.png)

Changes: An interpretation of the Blood Limpets based on the original artwork (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/1/1a/1st_Proserpina_Hussars.jpg), which already is quite insectoid rather than limpetoid. (And frankly I think that is good since I could not make a threatening limpet). I added Japanese numbers and hope they are correct.


2nd Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/LxM7Eee.png)

Changes: No canon insignia is known; called Kurita's Vampires I stuck with the bat imagery of the Third Hussars.


3rd Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/hSqrXir.png)


4th  Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/7tbN2dr.png)



Order of the Five Pillars


Sohei (non-canon)

(http://i.imgur.com/hBLjugQ.png)


Tennyo

(http://i.imgur.com/nRnvVHg.png)


Oniwaka

(http://i.imgur.com/qxDgIUP.png)


Shuinsen

(http://i.imgur.com/xiE2LvC.png)


Hands on Kannon

(http://i.imgur.com/OpBMriu.png)





Free Worlds League

FLWM


Ducal Guard (Anton Marik)

General Changes: no canon insignia is known. Since Anton Marik declared himself Captain-General of the whole League I found using the League’s eagle appropriate. But as the Guards are sworn in on Anton personally I also included his monogram as equal part of the insignia. The colours have been inspired by Takiro’s suggestion, i.e. purple for Marik, gold for the TH legacy, and black Procyon's genus of nocturnal animals. Consequently the insignia represents a mix of local reference, personal allegiance, and Anton’s claims.


1st Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/PncrWav.png)


2nd Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/OgVs4Xu.png)


3rd Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/VixXIUP.png)


4th Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/GJn17Wh.png)




Marik Militia

Interpretation:The insignia are based on the regimental nicknames.


3rd Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/0KKHkL1.png)


18th Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/IjP8IRs.png)


26th Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/25p4QLu.png)


27th Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/pQ7SqSA.png)




Regulan Hussars

Interpretation: I am a fan of corporate identity when it comes to brigades, and all the Hussars regiments insignia have the same base, shaped like a 16th century Hungarian shield. Hungary is traditionally home to the Hussars and the FWL has some mild Habsburg-vibes, therefore I thought this worked out well. Due to the strong regional ties of the brigade it made sense to include a simplified Ankh representing the Regulan Fiefs. Otherwise the insignia are very much based on the canonical insignia, albeit rendered more traditionally.


1st Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/S6WrtOu.png)


4th Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/4pz18xQ.png)


5th Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/SYMqWiv.png)


9th Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/POamHFq.png)



Sirian Lancers


1st Sirian Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/efedeT0.png)


2nd Sirian Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/vmmxhAd.png)


3rd Sirian Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/Y1AI7wg.png)




Independent Commands

Marik Guard

(http://i.imgur.com/YyJ92Br.png)



Andurien Rangers (alternate universe)

1st Andurien Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/m1tIGjb.png)




Continued in Part II  (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=47591.msg1099026#msg1099026).
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 20 July 2015, 19:23:05
Nice, I like these.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: YingJanshi on 20 July 2015, 21:32:00
Wow, these are really cool! O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 21 July 2015, 15:41:46
IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)

PART II
(minor powers, ComStar, Periphery etc.)



Free Rasalhague Republic

KungsArmé


1st Tyr

(http://i.imgur.com/1QqW6dc.png)

Changes: the Viking helmet is now a historically more accurate helmet, loosely inspired by the Gjermundbu helmet. Seriously, horns?


3rd Drakøns

(http://i.imgur.com/LGDXb9h.png)


4th Drakøns

(http://i.imgur.com/zUO8lHO.png)

Interpretation: the insignia of the unit is not known, but I figured the Nordic valknut would be a good symbol.


3rd Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/WunKThm.png)


4th Kavalleri

(http://i.imgur.com/sX3MRFm.png)




Hanseatic League


Regional Defense Force 1

(http://i.imgur.com/igyc7EP.png)




Marian Hegemony


Legio Prima Victrix

(http://i.imgur.com/HCcog4v.png)

Legio Secunda Cataphractorum

(http://i.imgur.com/kGnIH9O.png)



Taurian Concordat


Concordat Commandos

(https://i.imgur.com/WCkkYoL.png)




Rim Worlds Republic


Amaris Dragoons Brigade

(http://i.imgur.com/HbI09EZ.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/4Z2RW5w.png)


1st Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/Ljur0FG.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/ReIf25i.png)

Changes: I made two alternate versions, both of which use Roman numerals.


4th Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/bNhZHE7.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/YS6eRS0.png)


99th Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/IjflA2T.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/zX7PT03.png)


141st Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/D5RJRsM.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/hOdGki0.png)


832nd Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/LRte3HV.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/klwkb7L.png)


5th Amaris Fusiliers

(http://i.imgur.com/2ziRhhx.png)


3rd Amaris Legionnaires

(http://i.imgur.com/nC5Zc2o.png)



Amaris Liberation Army 1

(http://i.imgur.com/U78roeL.png)




ComStar and WoB

(http://i.imgur.com/WOgQxqz.png)



ROM

Interpretation: The ROM-insignia are based on the older Intelligence Operations Handbook, rather than the more famous renditions from Covert Ops (which I truly detest). However they are only losely based on the Intel Ops HB, and I filled some gaps with the help of general ideas found in Covert Ops (so I did not reject it entirely).

(http://i.imgur.com/2bN2HjH.png)



Counterintelligence (Μ/Δ)

(http://i.imgur.com/J6k0dZa.png)



Information and Analyses (Μ/Μ)

(http://i.imgur.com/dZY9Jp6.png)



Internal Obedience (Ρ/Ο)

(http://i.imgur.com/C1ml41r.png)



Covert Operations (Ρ/Ρ)

(http://i.imgur.com/KDNaM7n.png)



Security (Μ/Ι)

(http://i.imgur.com/zRoAs5Z.png)



Special Services

(http://i.imgur.com/fhzT5yp.png)



Blake's Wrath (Δ/Ε)

(http://i.imgur.com/jPsXnhE.png)



Valkyrie (Δ/Χ)

(http://i.imgur.com/KUC3ge5.png)



Diplomatic Operations Branch (Ρ/Γ)

(http://i.imgur.com/k7LKh9b.png)





ComGuards

1st Division

(http://i.imgur.com/lxYVBCb.png) (http://i.imgur.com/XxjVnJw.png) (http://i.imgur.com/1dM5xTk.png)


2nd Division

(http://i.imgur.com/yLRKyiB.png)


11th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/Jv70DUL.png)


12th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/4qGlBJs.png)

Interpretation: many ComStar divisions changed nickname and insignia after Tukayyid; the 12th is no exception. This represents the insignia before the battle, based on its name "Pure Waveforms"


31st Division

(http://i.imgur.com/fgMmSwv.png)


34th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/1KSEMlq.png)


39th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/V1NrlNI.png)


48th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/5eOUhCS.png)


77th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/MnyTwqd.png)


91st Division

(http://i.imgur.com/Mh2UMqs.png)


102nd Division

(http://i.imgur.com/1Xx9y1X.png)


116th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/XCJEMUD.png)


198th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/tIeG3wV.png)


214th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/WXCvOCS.png)


282nd Division

(http://i.imgur.com/zxaQDiY.png)

Interpretation: no canon insignia is known, but being a pre-schism formation the use of Blake's book makes sense imo. The unit fought bravely on Tukayyid, and was destroyed by the Wolfspiders


308th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/FE9goBv.png)


312th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/oRaAkDQ.png)


379th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/EqZURy5.png)


394th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/VlWhaLm.png)




WoBM

General Changes: As I said before, I am not a fan of the blue&red colour combination, which is also used by the hidden divisions of the WoBM (11-39). Both colours are very strong and thus don't go well together. I tried, but was not really satisfied with the results. So I tried something else and reversed the ComGuards scheme using black as base colour instead of white. I added highlights (since black could no longer be used for highlights) and I think it looks ... powerful.


3rd Division

(http://i.imgur.com/9KvGOzB.png)


5th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/dMzDiIs.png)


9th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/Ra7o8dg.png)


11th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/IQo5tBV.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/MrKhftR.png)


12th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/lhxLDnM.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/ne2yAwL.png)


16th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/ijps5Y6.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/whlH2C1.png)


25th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/nuneEQx.png)


37th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/gJ7h8Nd.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/6gLPjjR.png)



Shadow Divisions


Manei Domini

(http://i.imgur.com/0PjHRao.png)


40th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/A2kNUqB.png)


42nd Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/AWxDViM.png)


45th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/8fOT0Lz.png)


46th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/LhSOq10.png)


47th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/IJAAcuC.png)


51st Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/F76tuUX.png)




Mercs


Waco Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/Z3GfMvq.png)


Swan's Cavaliers

(http://i.imgur.com/oogpwz0.png)


Black Cats

(http://i.imgur.com/cXJOX4S.png)

Interpretation: the badge is almost identical to the canon badge with only subtle changes in proportions. The biggest deviation is the stance of the cat; it now has a typical heraldic attitude for cats (passant guarding). Colours are my guess.


Black Knight Legion

(http://i.imgur.com/e0I2UBs.png)

Interpretation: you can easily guess why a red boar’s head was chosen...


Ever-Free

(http://i.imgur.com/EdBAys1.png)

Interpretation: we know the unit sported a broken chain, probably referring to the chain gang missions their founders were forced to perform in service of House Kurita, and to the fact that they were freed. I added the Sword-and-Sun of House Davion, shattering the chain, because the unit owes a lot to the AFFS.


Griffin's Pride

(http://i.imgur.com/AWuPeRK.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I decided for the griffin-motif.


Lander's Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/iieVOHf.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I decided for the the lance-motif.


Pinky's Irregulars

(http://i.imgur.com/l3MYdfZ.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I chose Pinky from the Animaniacs.


Van Diemen's Demons

(http://i.imgur.com/1T8TXYe.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I used a demon...


Black Knights

(https://i.imgur.com/Dhggl4h.png)    ...    (https://i.imgur.com/c9Ucwdz.png)    ...    (https://i.imgur.com/rEgZF4L.png)

Interpretation: this was a request by Black_Knyght; red is for the Mechs, blue for the fighters, green for the tanks



Corporate Security Forces and BattleMech


Interpretation: Almost all larger arms producing companies employ a military grade security unit, usually equipped with the products of the company. It is not know if they have any insignia, but I made some. The basic idea is to use the company logo in combination with military and industrial symbols.
The BattleMech insignia take inspiration from present day fighter patches.



Defiance Industries Zeus

(https://i.imgur.com/0hXep7y.png)

Interpretation: Eagle and thunderbolt are symbols of Zeus in the Greek mythology, and they are combined with the Steiner-fist and the colours and logo of Defiance Industries.


Defiance Self-Protection Force (since 3065)

(http://i.imgur.com/NmDWqwt.png)

Interpretation: the base is of course the DefHes logo; the sword in front of a cogwheel symbolizes the defence of the factories; the unit was once called "the catamounts", so this animal had to be included; the skull is from the Gray Death Legion. The GDL is honoured for its valiant efforts protecting the DI works against the Skye separatists, and perhaps some of surviving GDL/Brewer's Legion members joined the DSPF. So it makes sense to include their insignia. The overall white and red colour scheme is derived from the paint scheme of the DSPF mechs.


Brewer's Legion

(http://i.imgur.com/PKYoDHB.png)

Interpretation: using the Brewer family coat of arms and the GDL logo seemed the best idea for this unit


Coventry Metal Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/WpJfmot.png)

Interpretation: the combination of cogwheel and swords symbolizes the defence of the factories. Since the CMW logo is round, I put the cogwheel around it, and I think it looks good.


Arc-Royal Mech Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/srppOCy.png)

Interpretation: emphasizing the strong regional ties of the ARMW, the SPF insignia is based on the colours of the Arc-Royal coat of arms, even including the chalice. Again, swords and cogwheel symbolize the defence of the factories.


Blackstone Highlanders

(http://i.imgur.com/V3AeJJc.png)


Norse Storm Technologies Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/3PRu686.png)

Interpretation: based on the colour scheme of the company logo I added its dominant lightning bolts to the insignia of the SFP, which also features the sword and cogwheel combination. 


Erprobungskommando BSW (Field Test Unit Bushwacker)

(http://i.imgur.com/2K8t0XQ.png)

Interpretation: this is my idea for a TharHes unit testing the Bushwacker in the field, against the Clans. (The unit's members might do so while serving in regular LCAF outfits). The compass rose on a gold ground is based on the bagde of MWO's Bushwacker. I also used the cogwheel and sword combination representing TharHes's own military forces.


Luthien Armor Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/oLIVBLc.png)

Interpretation: being a Japanese-inspired culture, I refrained from using western imagery like broadswords and cogwheel. However I used the Katana and Wakizashi combination to symbolize the military mission of the SPF.


BBP Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/MNxRaBE.png)

Interpretation: again I used a Katana, but this time carried by an eagle (irl the insignia of the 10th Japanese Army Division) to symbolize the aero-space fighters and Dropships produced by BBP.


Earthwerks Security (FWL)

(http://i.imgur.com/wtf89cl.png)


Earthwerks Security (CapCon)

(http://i.imgur.com/G7qjYFV.png)


Earthwerks Security (FedSuns)

(http://i.imgur.com/LxlOlQX.png)



Pirates

New Belt Pirates

(http://i.imgur.com/sJW8WOI.png)






Sources:
https://commons.wikimedia.org
http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/Heraldry_SVG_Images/index.htm
http://www.123freevectors.com/elephant-head-vector-graphics/
https://warosu.org/tg/image/al5aIjPVfwMHt695zl-zMg
http://clubpenguin.wikia.com/wiki/File:Boot.png
http://www.clipartbest.com/clipart-LTKEX9qTa
http://orig04.deviantart.net/ceb0/f/2013/158/3/a/hole_3_by_artsy_antics-d686fvy.png
http://pngimg.com/upload/skeleton_PNG5556.png
http://www.228ibr.com/index.php?topic=16.0
http://www.chuckbauman.com/skulls-airbrushing-stencils.htm
http://viereth.deviantart.com/art/Grey-Death-Legion-Insignia-272903860
http://raudulvheraldry.ru/ArmGold/AG%20HERALDRY%20CLIPART/SHIELD%20SUPPORTERS/Cat/SHIELD%20SUPPORTERS.htm
http://screwfaceromeo.deviantart.com/art/N-58-Carbine-301682509
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 24 July 2015, 06:55:29
A few updates (still LCAF), in the first post:

Coventry CPM and the Royal Guards Brigade (1st, 2nd, 3rd).

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 24 July 2015, 18:33:57
Added a few more:

Commonwealth Guards (2nd Bolan, 1st & 2nd Buena), Lyran Guards (24th & 26th), Acturan Guards (26th), Lyran Regulars (11th).
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 25 July 2015, 20:48:02
Another add-on:

LIC (Loki, Lohengrin), 15th Arcturan Guards, 6th Lyran Guards, Tikonov Republican Guards (1st, 2nd, 3rd); as well as updates to the 10th Lyran Guards and 17th Arcturan Guards,

(I am a fan of the third Republicans...  :) )
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 26 July 2015, 11:09:38
Great work!  O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 27 July 2015, 16:58:30
Thank you!

I finally started other houses.  O:-)

The AFFS with the Capellan Dragoons, and the Avalon Hussars (11th, 17th, 22th), including alternate versions, replacing the broadsword with a sabre. I mean they are hussars, they should have a cavalry sabre.

The CCAF with McCarron's Armored Cavalry (4th and 5th). I really like how they turned out.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Davout73 on 27 July 2015, 18:25:50
These are really good.

If you could make them available in a something like a .png format, that would be very cool.   O0

Dav
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 28 July 2015, 16:38:10
Thank you very much!  :)

Unless the forum does some reformat I am not aware of, the files are in the .png-format, with transparency and so on. See here for example:
http://i.imgur.com/s0VMuzc.png

If there are problems with the resizing just ask me, I think I can help (not sure though...  ^-^ ). I can also do signatures etc., if anyone wishes. Doing it for all the insignia would be quite repetitive for me, that is why I did not include them...


Oh, and a small batch of new insignia:
- 10th Lyran Guards (Victorian)
- 41st Avalon Hussars (2 versions)
- HSF RDF 1 (simplified and primarily using the colours of the historical Hanseatic League, white and red)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 31 July 2015, 10:12:50
So today is intelligence day. And Davion day.  ^-^

The new updates includes insignia for:

- MIIO (Federated Suns civilian intelligence service)

- DMI (Federated Suns military intelligence service)

Furthermore, I added three Lyran intelligence agencies (Propaganda, Heimdall, and MID).


I would have tried some Capellan intelligence because their insignia seem quite interesting, but the Chinese script makes it off limits to me...
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 31 July 2015, 10:59:39
Very nice work!  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 03 August 2015, 11:20:21
Thanks!

Again a somewhat larger update:


ComStar
- two main logos (could not decide which one I like better)
- ComGuards Divisions (1st, 2nd, 11th, 31st, 34th, 48th, 77th, 91st, 102nd, 116th, 308th, 312th, 379th, 394th)

I tried something new with the ComStar insignia. It deviates a bit from my usual style, but I wanted to try it:
http://i.imgur.com/mbD9HXB.png
http://i.imgur.com/CH9OfQW.png


Davion:
- Task Force Navarre
- NAIS College

Steiner:
- Nagelring
- Buena War College

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 03 August 2015, 11:22:02
Wow!  great ComStar insignia!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 03 August 2015, 12:30:04
Thanks a lot! I got the idea from an old ComStar source book:
http://sarna.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/backgrounds/comstar1024x768.jpg

Stained glass somehow fits ComStar's pseudo-religious style.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Shin Yodama on 03 August 2015, 12:33:44
Excellent work, and those Comstar symbols are sublime - well done.

How about a take on the Genyosha's symbol, replacing those tacky stars with a more realistic star field - a better version of this for example:
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 03 August 2015, 13:16:30
Thank you! The Genyosha is a nice idea. I won't have time until the weekend I think, but then I will give it a try.  :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Empyrus on 03 August 2015, 19:56:29
Whoah, these are nice. Many are easily better than what official unit logos in BT are. Cleaner, less "busy". Very nice.
That Second Tikonov Republican Guards logo would be attractive as an avatar but i'd feel a tad disloyal toward the CapCon if i did use it  :P

Like, let's take the House Hiritsu symbol for an example. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Capellan_Confederation_-_House_Hiritsu.jpg
Kind of meh really.

Speaking of that, could you do re-interpretations of the Warrior Houses? Someday, that is.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 08 August 2015, 10:07:34
Thank you!

Here is my frist take on the Genyosha and the House Hiritsu. If you require another size, I can provide it.
Also, if you have some ideas on improving the insignia, I would be glad to hear them. You know, sometimes I get stuck and have no idea how to go on.


(http://i.imgur.com/veVgNhi.png)


(http://i.imgur.com/hNlEteF.png)



My pace will be a bit slower in the future, but I'll mark the warrior houses. Furthermore the new Tikonov Guards might be interesting as well.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: beachhead1985 on 08 August 2015, 11:07:47
This is great work! do you have a DA account?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Empyrus on 08 August 2015, 17:36:59
Awesome! So much cleaner. Feels more fitting for mechs and such.
EDIT the sword could probably use that cord-thingy, some kind of it anyway. But otherwise, superb.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 08 August 2015, 19:07:53
Thanks a lot! You are absolutely right, I forgot the sword knot. As I said, sometimes I get stuck and can't see the wood for the trees...
I added the knot and I hope you like it.

I also added two alterations of the ComGuards 1st Division, giving the helmet a crest. I made one red as per request, and the other white because I like to stick to the colours white-black-gold for the ComGuards whenever possible.

You know, I just like simplicity and corporate identity in unit insignia. But in FASA's defence... back then in the 90ies, people loved the flashy sci-fi-style with lens flares, lavish colour gradients, and generally a lot of bling. In the recent past however, there seems to be a roll-back and people begin to prefer the simple style again. Furthermore I for one think the medieval/early-modern heraldry fits the European factions very well.
Sometimes I wish I had any idea about Chinese or Japanese art or history so I could do them better justice.


@ beachhead1985

Thanks! Sorry, no, I have no DA account.


PS: from time to time I update some of the insignia with minimal improvements. Recently for example I replace the Lyran Royal Guards with better versions. The difference is only noticeble when seen side by side with the old versions though, thus I do not post about it.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 08 August 2015, 22:20:18
 O0

Nice job, looking forward to many more!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Shin Yodama on 09 August 2015, 07:19:35
Very nicely done Flieger, I really like your artistic style, and it's good to see a different take on these icons (especially the Genyosha insignia).
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 09 August 2015, 07:38:13
Thanks!  :)

Regarding the Genyosha... I tried the classic look of the wave only, but I did not get any result I was pleased with. So I took a cheesy road and put in front of a Japanese Sun Disk and I like the heavy contrast to the black wave with the white crest of the wave. Because black and red are dominant it seems to fit the DracCom more, too.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 14 August 2015, 13:44:10
Today I got a small batch, some explanations, and a little question.

The batch:
- Hesperus Guards Brigade: http://i.imgur.com/9Jcsh53.png
- Second Tikonov Guards: http://i.imgur.com/1cxAIgq.png
- Fourth Tikonov Guards: http://i.imgur.com/mNlK28A.png
- Warrior House Matsukai: http://i.imgur.com/7iIUWga.png
- Sword of Light: http://i.imgur.com/2MHXjU1.png
- Fifth Amaris Fusiliers: http://i.imgur.com/2ziRhhx.png
- Legio Prima Victrix: http://i.imgur.com/HCcog4v.png
- Legio Secunda Cataphractorum: http://i.imgur.com/kGnIH9O.png


The explanations:

Instead of a halberd I used a bardiche for the 4th Tikonov Guards (http://i.imgur.com/mNlK28A.png). The bardiche is an eastern Slavic weapon which was some used in combination with a musket. So a Tikonov Guards symbol that has a musket in it is imo better couples with a bardiche than with a halberd. Both are polearms anyway.

I changed the sword in the Sword of Light (http://i.imgur.com/2MHXjU1.png) to a Katana, because I think it should be a Japanese sword.

The Hesperus Guards insignia (http://i.imgur.com/9Jcsh53.png) is simply a modified version of the original (see here (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/4/47/Hesperus_Guards_Insignia.jpg)). It has flat colours and proportions making the eagle a little slimmer. I did not do much, since I like the original concept, but I like it soo much better now. ...and I had to resist the urge to straighten out the wings.  O:-)


The question:

What to do with the red on blue, as seen with the Amaris Fusiliers and the Legiones? It is a horrible combination, which is banned from heraldry with good reason. Are there any red-on-blue combinations that work?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 14 August 2015, 14:11:26
I love your thread!  Like you I'm fascinated by the stories expressed in heraldry. There's depth and character far beyond mere logos. 

There are some excellent works there, I especially like the reimagined Steiner crests.

I will offer some constructive criticism on this one though:

I changed the sword in the Sword of Light (http://i.imgur.com/2MHXjU1.png) to a Katana, because I think it should be a Japanese sword.

I think you're missing the story.  The Sword of Light regiments are not professing to be House Kurita's most elite samurai... their crest proclaims them much more than that.  To paraphrase the SoL fluff, they are the divine instrument used to drag the undeserving and unwilling penitents to their salvation.  That's actually a very bad-ass way to view scoring victories in House Kurita's name*.  Furthermore, the actual devil-slaying "sword of light" wielded by the Myoo from real-world Buddhist mythology is called Kurikara (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VKcjSg8omko/VXEoIxx0nQI/AAAAAAABRtA/JizJomWZhj4/s1600/kurikare%2Bcolorful.jpg) and is certainly not a katana.  Then again, I've never found an image of that sword that looks like the sword in the SoL crest either, so there's certainly still room for reimagining a flaming sword crest for the Sword of Light brigade.

*Edit: Couldn't help but adding some more on this.. think about how profound the statement is by the 2nd Sword of Light in painting the Flag of Kentares on all their mechs.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 14 August 2015, 14:44:06
Thanks a lot for the info! That explains a bit; I always wondered why there is no Katana and now I know. Unfortunately my knowledge on the Asian factions and especially their background is quite limited. Otherwise, I'd do some more of their insignia :-\
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 14 August 2015, 14:55:35
Thanks a lot for the info! That explains a bit; I always wondered why there is no Katana and now I know. Unfortunately my knowledge on the Asian factions and especially their background is quite limited. Otherwise, I'd do some more of their insignia :-\

I hear you.. when most people think of "heraldry" they think of Europe.  Japanese heraldry is a completely different animal.. simplicity is an aesthetic in mons but there are complex rules just like in Europe.. just different ones is all.

On the upside, I doubt the various artists that created the crests of the BTU knew any more about heraldry or vexillology than you do.  And in the case of Kurita, those artists didn't stick to traditional Japanese heraldry anyway in almost all things Kuritan.  In-universe, it'd doubtlessly be explainable as Shiro Kurita being nothing more than a ****** who believed more in inaccuracies than facts :D  We already have some fun clues that may have actually been the case...

I wouldn't let being unfamiliar with "correct" heraldry rules stop you from experimenting and imagining.  As I said I doubt those who made the official insignia know any better than you do.  And secondly, who's to say what rules have or have not changed between the real world and the 31st century.  And Thirdly, don't be shy of the Confederation either!  They're almost as much a cultural hodge podge as the FWL.  Xin Sheng is a facade...
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Empyrus on 14 August 2015, 17:18:28
Oh, the updated House Hiritsu emblem is great!

Do you mind if i make an avatar of it for myself?

EDIT Nope, that didn't work out at all... Sigh, another program then...
EDIT2 Ah, much better. So, this ok?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 15 August 2015, 06:59:09
Oh, the updated House Hiritsu emblem is great!

Do you mind if i make an avatar of it for myself?

EDIT Nope, that didn't work out at all... Sigh, another program then...
EDIT2 Ah, much better. So, this ok?

I am honoured that you chose it as avatar! Everyone is invited to do so, or use it for signatures (or ask me to make one).
Downsizing an image can be painfull, but I think the board allows a slightly bigger avatar (150 width iirc) if that helps.


And Thirdly, don't be shy of the Confederation either!  They're almost as much a cultural hodge podge as the FWL.  Xin Sheng is a facade...

I may say that Hayden has done a lot of excellent DCMS and CCAF unit insignia (and many more), which can be found on DA.
Nevertheless, I have earmarked a few CCAF commands for my future works.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Empyrus on 15 August 2015, 07:56:41
Up to 150? Damn, i looked at the previous one i had, determined its width was 110 and resized the image appropriately. Oh, well, i may or may not make another version.

My first attempt went badly because IrfanView decided to add a black background... Fortunately Paint.net kept it transparent.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 15 August 2015, 08:06:15
Yes, .png format adds the transparency issue and some programs can't handle it.

I have actually seen avatars up to 160px, but here is one for you at 150:  :)
http://i.imgur.com/IToRNuH.png
I hope it is ok... sometimes resizing is a bit difficult.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 22 August 2015, 07:27:48
Peace of Blake be with you.

This update is about the Word of Blake Militia and its allies.
As I said before, I am not a fan of the blue&red colour combination, which is also used by the hidden divisions of the WoBM (11-39). Both colours are very strong and thus don't go well together. I tried, but was not really satisfied with the results. So I tried something else and reversed the ComGuards scheme using black as base colour instead of white. I added red highlights (since black could no longer be used for highlights) and I think it looks ... powerful.
And... I have always been annoyed by the spelling mistake in the insignia of the 37th Division, which was another motivation for me.  ;)


Long Story short, here they are:


5th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/dMzDiIs.png)


9th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/Ra7o8dg.png)


11th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/IQo5tBV.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/MrKhftR.png)


12th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/lhxLDnM.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/ne2yAwL.png)


16th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/ijps5Y6.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/whlH2C1.png)


25th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/nuneEQx.png)


37th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/gJ7h8Nd.png)    ...    (http://i.imgur.com/6gLPjjR.png)



Mercs


Waco Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/Z3GfMvq.png)


Swan's Cavaliers

(http://i.imgur.com/oogpwz0.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 22 August 2015, 09:17:07
I like the WoB color scheme you came up with. It is sort of Wolverine inspired and since the Blood are such a big part of their story, why not.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 22 August 2015, 10:09:30
Thank you! To be fair, the colour scheme was also inspired by the canonic colour scheme of the 9th Division, which I like. But Wolverine hints are very cool, too, since I like them a lot.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 27 August 2015, 17:36:50
1000 clicks! And I did only 900 of them  ;D


Anyway, I did some quite new stuff this time: Corporate Security Forces, from Commonwealth and Combine companies. To my knowledge they have not been given insignia, and the company logo was used. But I thought they deserve their own insignia.
Furthermore, some Rasalhague stuff.

Feedback, especially on the corporate forces, is welcome!








Corporate Security Forces


Interpretation: Almost all larger arms producing companies employ a military grade security unit, usually equipped with the products of the company. It is not know if they have any insignia, but I made some. The basic idea is to use the company logo in combination with military and industrial symbols.


Defiance Self-Protection Force (since 3065)

(http://i.imgur.com/NmDWqwt.png)

Interpretation: the base is of course the DefHes logo; the sword in front of a cogwheel symbolizes the defence of the factories; the unit was once called "the catamounts", so this animal had to be included; the skull is from the Gray Death Legion. The GDL is honoured for its valiant efforts protecting the DI works against the Skye separatists, and perhaps some of surviving GDL/Brewer’s Legion members joined the DSPF. So it makes sense to include their insignia. The overall white and red colour scheme is derived from the paint scheme of the DSPF mechs.


Brewer’s Legion

(http://i.imgur.com/PKYoDHB.png)

Interpretation: using the Brewer family coat of arms and the GDL logo seemed the best idea for this unit


Coventry Metal Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/WpJfmot.png)

Interpretation: the combination of cogwheel and swords symbolizes the defence of the factories. Since the CMW logo is round, I put the cogwheel around it, and I think it looks good.


Arc-Royal Mech Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/srppOCy.png)

Interpretation: emphasizing the strong regional ties of the ARMW, the SPF insignia is based on the colours of the Arc-Royal coat of arms, even including the chalice. Again, swords and cogwheel symbolize the defence of the factories.


Norse Storm Technologies Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/3PRu686.png)

Interpretation: based on the colour scheme of the company logo I added its dominant lightning bolts to the insignia of the SFP, which also features the sword and cogwheel combination. 


Luthien Armor Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/oLIVBLc.png)

Interpretation: being a Japanese-inspired culture, I refrained from using western imagery like broadswords and cogwheel. However I used the Katana and Wakizashi combination to symbolize the military mission of the SPF.


BBP Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/MNxRaBE.png)

Interpretation: again I used a Katana, but this time carried by an eagle (irl the insignia of the 10th Japanese Army Division) to symbolize the aero-space fighters and Dropships produced by BBP.



Free Rasalhague Republic

KungsArmé


First Tyr

(http://i.imgur.com/1QqW6dc.png)

Changes: the Viking helmet is now a historically more accurate helmet, loosely inspired by the Gjermundbu helmet. Seriously, horns?


Third Drakøns

(http://i.imgur.com/LGDXb9h.png)


Fourth Drakøns

(http://i.imgur.com/zUO8lHO.png)

Interpretation: the insignia of the unit is not known, but I figured the Nordic valknut would be a good symbol.


Third Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/WunKThm.png)


Fourth Kavalleri

(http://i.imgur.com/sX3MRFm.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 31 August 2015, 20:06:42
A little Davion today, the Periphery March Guards. I used the base image as shown in the FM:3145 and modified it according to the descriptions given in the text. In case of the 4th, I came up with an idea as there was no description. The colours are guesswork. If they are wrong, please tell me.




Periphery March Guards Brigade

First Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/FTurDBR.png)


Second Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/LOUpPeY.png)


Fourth Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/nndZqGv.png)

Interpretation: the insignia is not described; from the name "Rhine" however I deduced river imagery.


Fifth Periphery March Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/ayKsNCW.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 01 September 2015, 07:06:25
Nicely done, very clean professional designs
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 04 September 2015, 08:49:36
Thank you! I should point out, though, that the original brigade emblem is excellent already. I merely colourized it, simplified it, and added unit specific details.


Anyway, next batch: CapCon and FedSuns.



Robinson Brigade

1st Robinson Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/A7ZcdXF.png)


2nd Robinson Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/HID2jSk.png)


3rd Robinson Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/7yPcJPm.png)


1st Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/xEnVwie.png)


4th Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/Tqu6TVu.png)


5th Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/JdUxqwh.png)





Sian Dragoons

3rd Sian Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/ZUJpB0L.png)


9th Sian Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/rF8BEHr.png)


11th Sian Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/O9hNGv7.png)



Capellan Defense Force

1st Capellan Defense Force

(http://i.imgur.com/UWKPxeN.png)


7th Capellan Defense Force

(http://i.imgur.com/f9P3RsN.png)



Capellan Chargers

4th Capellan Chargers

(http://i.imgur.com/6IhSCHi.png)



Victoria Rangers

5th Victoria Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/3KTqIX2.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 11 September 2015, 11:54:01
Drank a Talisker, so it was time for the Skye Rangers.
Also some others.


7th New Samarkand Regulars

(http://i.imgur.com/H0ctAAv.png)



1st Somerset Strikers /// Steiner Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/j7URRoV.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/emNCKBS.png)



4th Skye Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/hLNsSo2.png)

Changes: Rather than a modern, accurate image of Britain, I chose the oldest known map of Britain made by Ptolemy.


10th Skye Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/naBeb8M.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/SkhF3Mm.png)

Interpretation: I do not know if there is a canon logo, so I chose the St. Andrew's Cross in honour of the nickname (The Black Watch) and because it looks like a Roman 10.


17th Skye Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/0iyPRhx.png)


4th Skye Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/QnlxFcc.png)



3rd Amaris Legionnaires

(http://i.imgur.com/nC5Zc2o.png)



Blackstone Highlanders

(http://i.imgur.com/V3AeJJc.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Doy on 03 November 2015, 10:34:47
Cool work!

Most i like your Lyran Guards
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Ice Hellion on 03 November 2015, 15:18:33
Really great job.

For the 4th Robinson Strikers, I think the tusks and the legs should be filled with only one colour.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Doy on 04 November 2015, 15:22:25
Quote
Really great job.

For the 4th Robinson Strikers, I think the tusks and the legs should be filled with only one colour.

Yes Flieger you should try it. I wanna know what looks better and please post it than in comparison


Flieger nice idea to bud the insignia of the 3rd Sian Dragoons inside the rectabgle of mother formation  O0 ;D
so is it better to seen and no so big i had paint the entire weapon on the mech leg
Maybe you repaint the blade it looks so simply you sure can paint it better

Good work Flieger (Gute Arbeit wirklich)  [cheers]
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 06 November 2015, 07:00:24
Thank you, gentlemen! Very nice and encouraging.  :)

I have plans to revisit this thread, and although I cannot say "when" (busy at work atm), I will keep you input in mind. I see what you mean about the 4th Robinson Strikers, and perhaps your suggestion works better indeed. (When creating the insignia, I sometimes have a tunnel vision and get stuck...). Regarding the 3rd Sian Dragoons... it is actually the colour that bothers me the most. Perhaps I'll find another shade of green to work with. Sure, I also could do a more fancy version of the blade.  ;)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Doy on 08 November 2015, 16:56:51
Don't forget to set the link for the new topic here   ;)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: pensiveswetness on 08 November 2015, 23:10:28
Impressive....  O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Top Sergeant on 09 December 2015, 23:55:56
These look great Flieger! Love the new take on the Saucy Sixth and the variations on the 11th Lyran Guard.  8)

Just FYI: traditionally, if there is a single charge of an object or animal and its facing the left side of the shield (that is, its facing to the right from the viewers standpoint) it usually denotes bastardy or cowardice. That's why you almost always see them facing to the viewers left. Its not followed much in corporate circles, but western militaries still follow the practice.

Of course, by the 31st Century none of this may even matter.  ;)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 14 December 2015, 11:53:00
Thanks a lot.

Regarding the facing of the charge... Good point! I usually stick to the canon source image, which sometimes do not follow tradition, but I am aware of the issue (being a historian and having served myself), hence I try to keep that tradition.

Btw., between Christmas and New Year I plan and hope to add&rework a bit. I will surely add the 101st Tharkad Lancers to the mix. (from the German-only novel Sturm auf Arc-Royal).
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 17 January 2016, 14:03:53
So, a small update (using the new HBS house insignia  O0); some new insignia, some reworks; featuring Liao, Steiner, Davion, and Amaris insignia:


101st Tharkad Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/00r2aYA.png)

Interpretation: The Tharkad Lancers are a unit featured in the German novel "Sturm auf Arc-Royal" (see my review here (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=50273.0)). They are said to have a silver knight on a white horse as insignia, however I added some elements from the flag of Tharkad and the number 101.


3rd Royal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/1UxSM0Y.png)


LIC

(http://i.imgur.com/xUR4raS.png)


Diplomatic Guard

(http://i.imgur.com/xfUeQW4.png)



4th Robinson Strikers

(http://i.imgur.com/y1LD6Br.png)
(slightly tweaked according to suggestion; thanks!)


Maskirovka (pre Xin-Sheng)

(http://i.imgur.com/0VYhDxP.png)


Maskirovka Cappelan Operations Branch

(http://i.imgur.com/5jGXaCA.png)



Amaris Liberation Army 1

(http://i.imgur.com/U78roeL.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 20 January 2016, 16:01:48
A new series, this time it is all about one insignia: the Royal Guards Brigade insignia.
 
So why is it a series? Well, I did not like the original brigade’s insignia much; it does make sense and it is rather well executed by the artists, but I think a crown is relatively boring. Looking for alternatives I found that the Steiner fist was already in use by the Fourth Royal Guards, so I could not use it.

Then I thought about using the Archon's (first) name. In my opinion it makes some sense, as the Guards were loyal to the person of the Archon rather than the position as could be seen in the Brewer-coup and other occasions. Of course, a name itself offers rather limited options to visually represent them, too.
Yet, one option was interesting: the medieval monogram style, used e.g. by Theoderic the Great, Charlemagne or Otto the Great. Especially the last with its simplicity was what I liked. So I chose this for my series. My system is always to use four letters and start with the first letter, while generally preferring to show consonants if possible.

I am interested in opinions on improving the idea, or simply better new ideas for an alternate Brigade sigil.
 


Here is my try:



Trillian
(http://i.imgur.com/OWRZeZP.png)
TRLN


Adam
(http://i.imgur.com/MyEQNSz.png)
ADAM


Peter
(http://i.imgur.com/WdCLAuG.png)
PTER
 

Katrina (and Katherine for that matter – the monogram would be the same, even if she had continued to use her birth name)
(http://i.imgur.com/WxgMXa9.png)
KTRN

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JPArbiter on 28 January 2016, 20:14:48
my wife, who embroiders unit patches as a hobby, has been drooling over your work.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 30 January 2016, 11:50:31
Thanks! Such a compliment means a lot to me!  :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JPArbiter on 31 January 2016, 22:21:40
Couple of Requests 

Could we get both a Generic Amaris Dragoons logo and some numbered ones?

Wife would love to see some Jade Falcon logos with flat colors, and a Watch Insignia.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 03 February 2016, 08:59:31
No problem, I can do the Dragoons, although I would mostly colourize the existing canon insignia, which I think is pretty close to my style already. If you have any special ideas for the insignia, I would like to hear them.

And sorry, I don't do the Clans. But regarding the Jade Falcons, Bren has created some excellent artwork. I really like his style:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=49607.0


Well, so I have the Amaris Dragoons in the pipeline, and also some ComStar Divisions (there are still a lot to do!).
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 04 February 2016, 10:33:43
So, a new update with the promised Amaris Dragoons and a few ComStar divisions.

I made two versions of the Dragoons; one based on red, one based on black. Both use Roman numerals which I think look really interesting, especially the higher numbers. The Brigade is represented by a star, which I liked better than just making the shark larger. But let us start with the ComGuards:




282nd Division

(http://i.imgur.com/zxaQDiY.png)

Interpretation: no canon insignia is known, but being a pre-schism formation the use of Blake's book makes sense imo. The unit fought bravely on Tukayyid, and was destroyed by the Wolfspiders


214th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/WXCvOCS.png)


198th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/tIeG3wV.png)


12th Division

(http://i.imgur.com/4qGlBJs.png)

Interpretation: many ComStar divisions changed nickname and insignia after Tukayyid; the 12th is no exception. This represents the insignia before the battle, based on its name "Pure Waveforms"



Amaris Dragoons Brigade

(http://i.imgur.com/HbI09EZ.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/4Z2RW5w.png)


1st Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/Ljur0FG.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/ReIf25i.png)


4th Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/bNhZHE7.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/YS6eRS0.png)


99th Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/IjflA2T.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/zX7PT03.png)


141st Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/D5RJRsM.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/hOdGki0.png)


832nd Amaris Dragoons

(http://i.imgur.com/LRte3HV.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/klwkb7L.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 04 February 2016, 11:16:15
DCCCXXXII is 832, not 382.  You'll be wanting CCCLXXXII for those badges.

But I love your work and don't want to simply say critical things about it.   

So...

And sorry, I don't do the Clans.

I have such a man crush on you for that.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 04 February 2016, 11:18:43
Ah, a little typo: it is supposed to be the 832nd Dragoons:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/832nd_Amaris_Dragoons
Thanks for the note, will change that soon enough.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: beachhead1985 on 05 February 2016, 16:10:40
I love these, but isn't the roman numeral for 4 IV? I have seen IIII before, but thought it was in error.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 05 February 2016, 16:30:00
Thank you, and don't worry, I don't mind the question at all. In antiquity, usually the additive system for displaying the 4 was chosen (i.e. III + I, rather than the subtractive system of V - I = IV):
See these tombstones from soldiers of the 4th Legion for example:
http://www.livius.org/pictures/serbia/kostolac-viminacium/viminacium-museum-pieces/dedication-by-a-soldier-of-iiii-flavia/
http://www.livius.org/pictures/syria/apamea/military-tombstones/tombstone-macednus/
http://www.livius.org/pictures/serbia/sirmium-sremska-mitrovica/inscription-of-iiii-flavia-felix/
http://www.livius.org/pictures/syria/apamea/military-tombstones/tombstone-vitalis/

It is more of a modern age convention to use the IV.

Due to the classical overtones of the RWA, I chose the more ancient convention. And because it looks better, imo.  ;)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: beachhead1985 on 05 February 2016, 21:45:10
Thanks Flieger! I'll be happy to add that to my personal knowledge :) Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Bongfu on 06 February 2016, 21:10:10
I love these, but isn't the roman numeral for 4 IV? I have seen IIII before, but thought it was in error.

Yes and no.

IIII is the way the Romans wrote it at the height of their power. IV was a simplified version that evolved from Latin through the Church. Both version are correct, though I would suspect IV is much more common.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Nightgaun7 on 17 February 2016, 11:36:24
Peace of Blake be with you.

This update is about the Word of Blake Militia and its allies.

I don't suppose you feel inspired by 3rd Division's awesome insignia, do you?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 18 February 2016, 13:01:48
I can give it a try this weekend.  ;)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JPArbiter on 21 February 2016, 12:14:49
Shadow Divisions Por Favor!

and the Manei Domini's "Bloody Hand" insignia!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 21 February 2016, 14:44:37
I think I can make some insignia of the Shadow Divisions, do you have any favourites to come first?
Also, can you give me some details how the Bloody Hand insignia looks?


Anyway, here my take on the 3rd Division:

(http://i.imgur.com/9KvGOzB.png)

Hasn't been easy, and suggestions on improvements are welcome.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JPArbiter on 25 February 2016, 02:27:39
there is no official artwork for the bloody hand logo that I am aware of. accrophially it existed in MechWarrior 4 and Mech Assault as a  red right hand, palm outward and fingers spread wide against a white circular field.

as far as my favorite Shadow Divisions, in order, 51st, 49th, 44th, 47th, 40th, and 54th.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 26 February 2016, 18:46:23
So, here is my take on the Shadow Divisions. I hope the grey is not too dark and seperates from the black.
The 44th was a bit too difficult for me; maybe I try again later. I don't know what the 49th is supposed to be, and I could not find the insignia of the 54th. But I could do the 51st, 47th, and 40th, plus the 42nd, 45th, and 46th Division.

PS: the font is called "Blankenburg" ;)




Shadow Divisions

Manei Domini

(http://i.imgur.com/0PjHRao.png)


40th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/A2kNUqB.png)


42nd Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/AWxDViM.png)


45th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/8fOT0Lz.png)


46th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/LhSOq10.png)


47th Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/IJAAcuC.png)


51st Shadow Division

(http://i.imgur.com/F76tuUX.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 26 February 2016, 18:51:29
Beautifully done!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 27 February 2016, 20:47:02
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JPArbiter on 08 March 2016, 22:52:11
Awesome work!

My only reference for the 54ths logo was a decal on a mech i won at masters and minions some years ago.

It was a tradtional triangle and sword with three circinus style skulls arraigned on either side of the sword with a larger one impaled by the blade, and the circinus blue ring surrounding the triangle.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 11 March 2016, 18:49:20
Thanks! I will see what I can do, but probably next weekend.  :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JustinKase on 21 March 2016, 01:04:29

...

Coventry Metal Works Self-Protection Force

(http://i.imgur.com/WpJfmot.png)

Interpretation: the combination of cogwheel and swords symbolizes the defence of the factories. Since the CMW logo is round, I put the cogwheel around it, and I think it looks good.

...


Thank you for making this!  I was working on a repaint, and wanted to make a 'Corporate' color scheme mech, and had already settled on using CMW - finding your icon was just plain old serendipity :)

I used it over at MWO - to do up a Phoenix Hawk (http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/315-repainted-concept-art/page__st__6960__p__5090071 (ftp://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/315-repainted-concept-art/page__st__6960__p__5090071)) - and of course credited you for the logo :D

I may be using some of your pre-clan Comstar stuff as well - thank you again for such a wonderful resource!!!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 21 March 2016, 21:52:30
Very nice. I am honoured that you use my insignia and I already commented on the Mech in the MWO forums.

If you have any more ideas or wishes for corporate security insignia, I would like to hear them. I am much slower these days making them, but I have not forgotten or abandoned them.  O:-)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Bongfu on 25 March 2016, 01:28:12
I would humbly request (and I understand if you do not wish you) creation of my 7th Lyran Guards' unit insignia.

It would be of the same flair as your other Lyran guard regiments. A shield of blue and white (halved is fine) with a either an entire polecat or a head as the center piece. The numeral VII somewhere and a small green shamrock to adorn a corner.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Black_Knyght on 25 March 2016, 16:14:20
IF you were ever so inclined, I'd love to see YOUR spin on the shield emblem I'm using as both my unit insignia and avatar pic.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 30 March 2016, 07:06:05
I would humbly request (and I understand if you do not wish you) creation of my 7th Lyran Guards' unit insignia.

It would be of the same flair as your other Lyran guard regiments. A shield of blue and white (halved is fine) with a either an entire polecat or a head as the center piece. The numeral VII somewhere and a small green shamrock to adorn a corner.

Here is a try:

(http://i.imgur.com/HFqsQfG.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/yXqB4gW.png)

I realize my Lyran Guards template is quite outdated compared to my newer work, but I hope you like it nonetheless.
The polecat is a bit difficult; at first I wanted to include the typical "mask" but I have not yet found a solution I was content with. I may give it another fresh try later. However the diagonal alignment was very useful for this kind of animal (in fact, I took it from the city of Aurierès (http://armorialdefrance.fr/images/blasons_a/AURIERES-63.jpg)) but also offers a shield division which I had not used before and made it easy to incoporate the shamrock and the number.


IF you were ever so inclined, I'd love to see YOUR spin on the shield emblem I'm using as both my unit insignia and avatar pic.

Really? I mean your's is almost perfect from my point of view. I would change only very few elements, mostly the rim, and even then I am not sure if I could produce a better one. I may try anyway, but I would rather like to compliment on your insignia.  O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: jerryboomerwang on 30 March 2016, 13:36:54
Hey Flieger, not sure if I replied before but you've got some really cool stuff on here! Like everyone else I hope you keep up the great work. :D

Have you done Clan insignias before? Skimmed the previous posts but didn't notice any, was curious. :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 30 March 2016, 15:01:31
Wow, thanks! A compliment from a true artist like you means a lot to me.  :)

I have not done Clan-insignia, because I am largely indifferent to them and I am not sure what to do with them. I once looked up the Smoke Jaguars and found that Hayden has done some excellent stuff for them already. This one e.g. (http://orig12.deviantart.net/4f24/f/2011/355/0/e/clan_smoke_jaguar_delta_galaxy_insignia_by_viereth-d4jtw91.png) is really fantastic. Then I looked up the Falcons and found Bren's work (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=49607.0), again marvellous.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 30 March 2016, 15:03:27
Asked and answered I'm afraid.

And sorry, I don't do the Clans. But regarding the Jade Falcons, Bren has created some excellent artwork. I really like his style:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=49607.0

And before I forget keep up the great work Flieger!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Empyrus on 08 April 2016, 07:05:41
I decided i wanted a new avatar... your selection of insignia is superb.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 08 April 2016, 10:30:33
Thanks for the compliments! [cheers]


@ Bongfu:
So do you like my attempt? It is totally ok if you don't, it is mostly about personal preference after all...

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Ivan the Not-so-Terrible on 09 April 2016, 20:36:29
That WoB stuff is very nice, but nothing from the FWL?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 10 April 2016, 19:27:13
That WoB stuff is very nice, but nothing from the FWL?

Curious, isn't it? There are actually a few commands I like and considered making insignia for, but most have been done already by others, especially Hayden (to whose work I would like to refer if you are looking for FWL insignia (http://viereth.deviantart.com/gallery/34178245/Battletech-Insignia)). And if I cannot add or change something in a meaningful way, I don't do it.

I have earmarked the Sirian Lancers though.  ;)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: CungrVanck on 24 May 2016, 08:58:39
Beautiful work!  Hope to see more of these in the future!

Also, as I am tinkering with some Youtube videos, I may message you to see if I have permission to use your works :) 
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JustinKase on 18 August 2016, 15:28:58
Coming back to the well for another pull :)

Any chance of doing an Earthwerks Security Services logo?

I'm working on a camo pattern for the Linesman mech ( http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Linesman ) and was thinking about doing it up in Earthwerks colors as part of the internal testing or Security force. 

Thanks in advance - either way :D
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 19 August 2016, 17:06:23
That should be possible. I'll give it a try tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 20 August 2016, 11:30:09
Ok, here is a try: I used different colour schemes for the different states which have taken control of EW. I added white to the FWL's insignia, because a pure purple background would have been too dark, imo.
The spears in the background are a variation from the swords I usually chose for the security forces, but I think it looks alright.


Earthwerks Security (FWL)

(http://i.imgur.com/wtf89cl.png)


Earthwerks Security (CapCon)

(http://i.imgur.com/G7qjYFV.png)


Earthwerks Security (FedSuns)

(http://i.imgur.com/LxlOlQX.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: O5P_Ghost on 20 August 2016, 13:04:54
How about for the Proserpina Hussars? The Blood Limpets looks a little weak for the fearsome reputation.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: beachhead1985 on 20 August 2016, 15:24:21
Glad to see this thread continuing Flieger, you do great work!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 21 August 2016, 08:16:07
Impressive Earthwerks Security logos, I like em.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JustinKase on 24 August 2016, 08:38:41
Those are freaking awesome :)  THANK YOU!!!

Not sure if you have use for these, but I had reworked the original EW logo from the old House Liao book - as well as the Green EW for them.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/duxsite-battletech/d6a65b5fa9f5ee100482861947a1eb737b9071c0a25fc5f20ae41556129d9aa5u71.png)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/duxsite-battletech/8565fac4ba979ca76dc18b4d23cf7198cdd85b85820803b513176596cffbf335u71.png)

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 24 August 2016, 15:35:49
In 2008 I did one for Fanbook 2 - Project Phoenix which of course is very Terran if your interested.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 25 August 2016, 19:15:22
Thank you all!  :)
Sorry for the late response...

Your Terran Earthwerks-logos look really nice! I was actually thinking about creating some insignia for Earth-based corporate security forces, but I am not sure if companies on Terra needed those or were allowed to have them. I would sure love to try some of them; Blankenburg Technologies has a really cool logo.
But seeing Krupp does not seem to have a (canon) logo, I'll probably try something in the future.


How about for the Proserpina Hussars? The Blood Limpets looks a little weak for the fearsome reputation.

Fascinating suggestion! I will think about how to make it more fearsome, but I cannot promise success. This might well exceed my capabilities. However I will give it a try.


Glad to see this thread continuing Flieger, you do great work!

Well I do not find time as often as I used to, but I do want to fulfill specific wishes.  :)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JustinKase on 26 August 2016, 12:29:46
Thanks for that Terran EWs - I added into the Battletech - Corp - Icons folder I have, and it will surely find use :)  Thanks!

Another request, for a unit that has a described logo, but I can't seem to find it anywhere:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Justine%27s_Grenadiers

"Crossed Laser Rifles surrounded by a golden wreath" A Capellan Reserves unit.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 26 August 2016, 19:37:52
Interestingly, I had worked previously on this, so I reactivated my work:


Justine's Grenadiers

(http://i.imgur.com/kUCz815.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/OgFPsxK.png)


I was not sure which colour to chose for the middle (and I did not want to leave it empty)....


(the rifle is a concept by ScrewfaceRomeo (http://screwfaceromeo.deviantart.com/art/N-58-Carbine-301682509) which I modified a tiny bit for the insignia, mostly by removing details)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: JustinKase on 26 August 2016, 20:52:25
Once again - wonderful work (and speedy!!)

I think the green invokes a more Capellan feel, but the Red would certainly stand out more on the typical Capellan green background.

Thank you once again fine sir!

Used the green version here : https://s3.amazonaws.com/duxsite-battletech/0888f673bc5a448077b8bafd9da2f27ba51966be1cf14ef01c29a5c160ed4b8du71.png (https://s3.amazonaws.com/duxsite-battletech/0888f673bc5a448077b8bafd9da2f27ba51966be1cf14ef01c29a5c160ed4b8du71.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 27 August 2016, 10:37:24
Glad you like it!
I agree the green feels more 'Capellan' but one has to keep in mind the SW-era CCAF were quite a hodgepodge of very different units with very different backgrounds, and some of them had no green in their insignia. I guess I will make Justinia's Cuirassiers in the future...

(But I have not forgotten the Proserpina Hussars  ;))
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Isaac Cameron-Wolf on 27 August 2016, 16:20:44
Wow these are very nice! And hello everyone!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: O5P_Ghost on 29 August 2016, 12:40:21
Glad you like it!
I agree the green feels more 'Capellan' but one has to keep in mind the SW-era CCAF were quite a hodgepodge of very different units with very different backgrounds, and some of them had no green in their insignia. I guess I will make Justinia's Cuirassiers in the future...

(But I have not forgotten the Proserpina Hussars  ;))

Thaks for not forgetting!

As for the Cuirassiers, this is from Sarna:

"Originally known as the Capellan Cuirassiers, the regiment was stationed on Capricorn III in 2765. They were formed at the order of Chancellor Stephan Liao after he discovered how effective the 1st St. Ives Lancers were. The Cuirassiers were built and trained according to the same techniques as the First St. Ives Lancers, but the soldiers assigned to the regiment were drawn from across the Capellan Confederation. This insured their loyalty to the nation as a whole.[1]

The regiment carried out an invasion of the Terran Hegemony under orders from Chancellor Barbara Liao during the chaotic days of the Amaris Coup, capturing a number of Hegemony worlds. One of these was Marlette, which was also coveted by the Federated Suns.[2]"

As a Capellan unit when the concept of a nation was still fluid, maybe a multi-colored background reflecting the nations that made up the new Confederation would be more appropriate. Something like European Coats of Arms showing 8 different family crests on one field. Upper right Tikinov, Sarna upper left, Liao bottom left etc. Pure Liao green might be a stretch  for an early unit. Even add Chesterton with a black band in it.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 03 September 2016, 14:54:16
Well then... this is a take on the Proserpina Hussars. Making a limpet threatening is not exactly easy, so I decided to go with the insectoid look of the original artwork (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/1/1a/1st_Proserpina_Hussars.jpg). There is no canon insignia of the Second Hussars, but they are called Kurita's Vampires and thus I adopted the bat imagery of the Third Hussars. Furthermore I added Japanese (Kanji) numbers, but I have no knowledge of the Japanese language and they might be wrong.



1st Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/wsy5R4k.png)


2nd Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/LxM7Eee.png)


3rd Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/hSqrXir.png)


4th Proserpina Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/7tbN2dr.png)



As a Capellan unit when the concept of a nation was still fluid, maybe a multi-colored background reflecting the nations that made up the new Confederation would be more appropriate. Something like European Coats of Arms showing 8 different family crests on one field. Upper right Tikinov, Sarna upper left, Liao bottom left etc. Pure Liao green might be a stretch  for an early unit. Even add Chesterton with a black band in it.

I see the logic but I am not sure if it works out. It might turn out too cluttered. However I like the idea and maybe I find a way to make it work.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 07 October 2016, 10:14:46
As for the Cuirassiers, this is from Sarna:

"Originally known as the Capellan Cuirassiers, the regiment was stationed on Capricorn III in 2765. They were formed at the order of Chancellor Stephan Liao after he discovered how effective the 1st St. Ives Lancers were. The Cuirassiers were built and trained according to the same techniques as the First St. Ives Lancers, but the soldiers assigned to the regiment were drawn from across the Capellan Confederation. This insured their loyalty to the nation as a whole.[1]"

As a Capellan unit when the concept of a nation was still fluid, maybe a multi-colored background reflecting the nations that made up the new Confederation would be more appropriate. Something like European Coats of Arms showing 8 different family crests on one field. Upper right Tikinov, Sarna upper left, Liao bottom left etc. Pure Liao green might be a stretch  for an early unit. Even add Chesterton with a black band in it.


So, here is a try:


Capellan Cuirassiers

(http://i.imgur.com/T2FAj7t.png)

Interpretation: the mailed fist holding an arrow is in the centre, but surrounded by all six commonalities of the Confederation, reflecting the pan-Capellan origin. Two of them are special: the training is based on the St. Ives Lancers, so the armoured hand comes from St. Ives; Chesterton is lost but not forgotten, so it is grayed out. I though about a black band, but that did not look good.


Let me know what you think. Furthermore...


Chesteron Guardians

(http://i.imgur.com/1xvtX7X.png)

Interpretation: no canon insignia is known, so this is based on their nickname "the Scarlet Pimpernels". And I like morning stars.


Andurien Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/uLeK7WG.png)

Interpretation: I merely flattened the colours.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 11 November 2016, 10:23:21
Only a small update, but it is a classic.

Kathil Uhlans

(http://i.imgur.com/YBFjnyt.png) ... (http://i.imgur.com/fVvJTuq.png)

Interpretation: The insignia was never shown but described in Lethal Heritage ("embroidered on a gold background in black thread, the head and mane of a roaring lion"). I added three cavalry lances to reflect their Uhlan-designation and to honour the three original elements from which the Uhlans were raised, i.e. the Davion Light Guards, the 5th Syrtis Fusiliers, and the Kathil CMM. The water seperating the lion and the lances is an homage to Kathil's sigil.

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 12 November 2016, 16:45:34
Very nice job!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: RichQ03 on 13 November 2016, 12:55:31
I really like them!  Fantastic work!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 17 November 2016, 19:59:37
Thanks!  :)

Tbh, I have run out of ideas a bit. I have some units earmarked though. I think I will finally attempt the Sirian Lancers, unless I come across a better idea.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 01 December 2016, 11:25:18
These all look great! I'd love to see more WoB divisions done in that reversed scheme you tried. Or more ComGuard divisions.

But really, they all look nice.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 06 December 2016, 01:13:23
Thank you!  O0

Well, I did not do another ComGuard unit, but I revisited ComStar. I always wanted to do ROM, but I hated the insignia presented in Covert Ops because they are 90ies WordArt-style. So I tried something else based on an earlier sourcebook with wholly different insignia...

(Also, I hid two easter eggs: one is football-related and not very well hidden, but the other is special. So special kudos to those who get the reference I included in the Info&Analysis logo  :) ).





ROM

Interpretation: The ROM-insignia are based on the older Intelligence Operations Handbook, rather than the more famous renditions from Covert Ops (which I truly detest). However they are only losely based on the Intel Ops HB, and I filled some gaps with the help of general ideas found in Covert Ops (so I did not reject it entirely).

(http://i.imgur.com/2bN2HjH.png)



Counterintelligence (Μ/Δ)

(http://i.imgur.com/J6k0dZa.png)



Information and Analysis (Μ/Μ)

(http://i.imgur.com/dZY9Jp6.png)



Internal Obedience (Ρ/Ο)

(http://i.imgur.com/C1ml41r.png)



Covert Operations (Ρ/Ρ)

(http://i.imgur.com/KDNaM7n.png)



Security (Μ/Ι)

(http://i.imgur.com/zRoAs5Z.png)



Special Services

(http://i.imgur.com/fhzT5yp.png)



Blake's Wrath (Δ/Ε)

(http://i.imgur.com/jPsXnhE.png)



Valkyrie (Δ/Χ)

(http://i.imgur.com/KUC3ge5.png)



Diplomatic Operations Branch (Ρ/Γ)

(http://i.imgur.com/k7LKh9b.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 06 December 2016, 22:22:52
Those are great looking. I like your take on them.

Could you do some FWL ones? I saw you linked a deviantart earlier in the thread but I like your style better. If you decide to do some, I'd love anything for the Marik Guard, Marik Militia, Eagle Corps, SAFE's Dark Shadows, or the Regulan Hussars.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 09 December 2016, 15:18:50
Thanks!

And yes, I am currently working on some FWLM stuff. I have pretty much finished the Sirian Lancers (although I am not entirely sure I like what I did) and started the Regulan Hussars. I only wish we knew more about Anton Marik's Ducal Guards. Any ideas what insignia they could have sported?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 10 December 2016, 06:38:07
Well Anton was the Duke of Procyon so I would go for something Procyon (Little Dog Star) in nature.

For a Guard unit I would go with a Shield of some type.

For colors I'd probably go for purple (representing marik), gold (a node to Procyon's Terran Hegemony legacy), and black (for Procyon's genus of nocturnal animals)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 10 December 2016, 09:30:49
Thanks for you input, I think I could incorporate some of it! So... much requested, long delayed, and finally here:

 :) :) :)


Free Worlds League

FLWM


Ducal Guard (Anton Marik)

General Changes: no canon insignia is known. Since Anton Marik declared himself Captain-General of the whole League I found using the League’s eagle appropriate. But as the Guards are sworn in on Anton personally I also included his monogram as equal part of the insignia. The colours have been inspired by Takiro’s suggestion, i.e. purple for Marik, gold for the TH legacy, and black Procyon's genus of nocturnal animals. Consequently the insignia represents a mix of local reference, personal allegiance, and Anton’s claims.


1st Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/PncrWav.png)


2nd Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/OgVs4Xu.png)


3rd Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/VixXIUP.png)


4th Ducal Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/GJn17Wh.png)



Regulan Hussars

Interpretation: I am a fan of corporate identity when it comes to brigades, and all the Hussars regiments insignia have the same base, shaped like a 16th century Hungarian shield. Hungary is traditionally home to the Hussars and the FWL has some mild Habsburg-vibes, therefore I thought this worked out well. Due to the strong regional ties of the brigade it made sense to include a simplified Ankh representing the Regulan Fiefs. Otherwise the insignia are very much based on the canonical insignia, albeit rendered more traditionally.


1st Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/S6WrtOu.png)


4th Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/4pz18xQ.png)


5th Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/SYMqWiv.png)


9th Regulan Hussars

(http://i.imgur.com/POamHFq.png)



Sirian Lancers


1st Sirian Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/efedeT0.png)


2nd Sirian Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/vmmxhAd.png)


3rd Sirian Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/Y1AI7wg.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 10 December 2016, 16:08:18
Nice Flieger, I love it! As far as I am concerned that is the canon Ducal Guard. Gonna post some of my own insignias in another thread but before I do how did you come up with your Sirian Lancers? My Terran variety done long ago for my Shattered Dawn setting used tradition Hegemony colors.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 11 December 2016, 18:38:58
Thanks a lot!  :) I am also quite happy about the Ducal Guards, especially as I believe monograms are an underused element in BattleTech. We are talking about pseudo-feudal societies after all. (btw., the similarity to the monogram of a certain historical figure is not intentional).

Regarding the Sirian Lancers, I just took the canon insignia (flaming lance and triangle) and adapted them to my personal taste; the biggest change being the location of the flame. The regimental highlight colours (white, blue, and green) are taken from the FM:FWL. However I do not know the canon base colour of the triangle. I went with purple simply because that is what I saw on Sarna.net...
Now I am by no means an expert on the FWL, and I would not mind going with another colour. In fact since purple is rather difficult to complement with green and blue I would welcome an alternative idea.

Btw., seeing your rendition of the Lancers' insignia I finally understand why the vamplate is so heavily emphasized. With the Hegemony's star on it, it makes perfect sense. Nice on anyway!  The AU must be an interesting playfield for new variations of well known insignia. O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 21 December 2016, 13:20:42
Hello,

I was asked to have a look at the minor merc units (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/List_of_minor_mercenary_units) as most of them have no canonical insignia (afaik). The following batch is thus largely the result of my fantasy. Nonetheless, I hope you enjoy them.



Black Cats

(http://i.imgur.com/cXJOX4S.png)

Interpretation: the badge is almost identical to the canon badge with only subtle changes in proportions. The biggest deviation is the stance of the cat; it now has a typical heraldic attitude for cats (passant guarding). Colours are my guess.


Black Knight Legion

(http://i.imgur.com/e0I2UBs.png)

Interpretation: you can easily guess why a red boar’s head was chosen...


Ever-Free

(http://i.imgur.com/EdBAys1.png)

Interpretation: we know the unit sported a broken chain, probably referring to the chain gang missions their founders were forced to perform in service of House Kurita, and to the fact that they were freed. I added the Sword-and-Sun of House Davion, shattering the chain, because the unit owes a lot to the AFFS.


Griffin's Pride

(http://i.imgur.com/AWuPeRK.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I decided for the griffin-motif.


Lander's Lancers

(http://i.imgur.com/iieVOHf.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I decided for the the lance-motif.


Pinky's Irregulars

(http://i.imgur.com/l3MYdfZ.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I chose Pinky from the Animaniacs.


Van Diemen's Demons

(http://i.imgur.com/1T8TXYe.png)

Interpretation: I do not know of any canon insignia, so I used a demon...
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 11 January 2017, 23:13:55
I'm loving these. Very well done. If you're still willing to do any more, I'd like to see some more corporate security logos, like maybe for Irian BattleMechs Unlimited or Technicron Manufacturing. Or unit insignias, of your own creation, for FWLM regiments that never got their own (8th & 9th Free Worlds Legionnaires, 5th Free Worlds Guards, 34th & 37th Marik Militia, for example).
Or, for personal use, an updated version of the Marik Guard sigil (I always thought the canon one looked unusually proportioned).
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 12 January 2017, 06:54:18
Thank you! Coincidentally, I did the Marik Guard and some of the Marik Militias without canon insignia. :)
So here is a new batch; I liked how the Marik Militia ones turned out. I was sceptic at first for I strongly dislike blue-and-red colour combinations, but it worked. I am a fan of the third and the twenty-sixth. Their insignia are based on the regimental nicknames.

I hope you like them!



3rd Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/0KKHkL1.png)


18th Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/IjP8IRs.png)


26th Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/25p4QLu.png)


27th Marik Militia

(http://i.imgur.com/pQ7SqSA.png)




Marik Guard

(http://i.imgur.com/YyJ92Br.png)


New Belt Pirates

(http://i.imgur.com/sJW8WOI.png)






Since the original opening post became too big, it is now officially Part I; Part II is also in this thread and there is a link in Part I too.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 12 January 2017, 10:13:43
lol I saw the art pop up first and thought "that was fast".

I think they're great. What were the influences for some of the Marik Militia insignias? Little blurbs in the housebooks?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 12 January 2017, 11:02:11
Glad you like them!  :)

As far as influences are concerned I used the regimental nicknames as my main source of inspiration.
The 3rd Marik Militia had the nickname "The Cannoneers", therefore I chose crossed cannon barrels and a grenade. This is common imagery for artillery troops and since I had not done it before, I liked it a lot.
Another example is the 26th Marik Militia which had the name "The Librarians", and I wanted to combine civilian elements (quill&book) and military elements (the spears). Having the spears and the quills mirror each other created an interesting image imho.
The 18th MM insignia is known from a black and white image; I merely went with a more traditional rendition of the rose and gave it colour based on the name (the "Duchess of Connaught" is a pink rose, at least in Germany).


However, I am not an expert on the FWLM, so I might have missed some info on the canon insignia and I am always grateful for hints.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 27 January 2017, 23:01:03
Just one new addition:

Erprobungskommando BSW (Field Test Unit Bushwacker)

(http://i.imgur.com/2K8t0XQ.png)

Interpretation: this is my idea for a TharHes unit testing the Bushwacker in the field, against the Clans. (The unit's members might do so while serving in regular LCAF outfits). The compass rose on a gold ground is based on the bagde of MWO's Bushwacker. I also used the cogwheel and sword combination representing TharHes's own military forces.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 28 January 2017, 14:09:32
Nice. Bushwacker is one of my favorite Lyran mediums.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 08 February 2017, 15:02:28
The next batch was a request by Takiro, who is currently working on a military anti-Clan unit of the Order of the Five Pillars.
You can check it out here (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=56029.0).


Sohei (non-canon)

(http://i.imgur.com/hBLjugQ.png)


Tennyo

(http://i.imgur.com/nRnvVHg.png)


Oniwaka

(http://i.imgur.com/qxDgIUP.png)


Shuinsen

(http://i.imgur.com/xiE2LvC.png)


Hands on Kannon

(http://i.imgur.com/OpBMriu.png)





Furthermore, another request by HunterGratzner for an AU variant of the Andurien Rangers, loyal to the Mariks:


Andurien Rangers (alternate universe)

1st Andurien Rangers

(http://i.imgur.com/m1tIGjb.png)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 08 February 2017, 16:00:28
Fantastic work Flieger!

I just have to say again what a pleasure it was working with you on the Sohei insignias. I had a great time bouncing ideas off you and receiving some great art concepts in return. The final pieces are awesome, thanks again!

Like that Marik one too!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 21 February 2017, 09:10:25
If you're still down to do requests, would you be willing to do any Taurian units?

Maybe one for the Taurian Velites?
Quote
The Taurian Velites insignia is a Viking raising a warhammer against a red field.

I'd also be interested in more Rasalhagian unit insiginias.  O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 27 February 2017, 14:59:09
Thanks for your post!

Unfortunately I have really no time for it right now. Sorry.
But I will make a note and will consider them again when I am less busy. I wanted to do some FRR insignia anyway.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: PeacMaker03 on 11 March 2017, 11:38:15
Flieger, all I can say is Prost!
I imagine a bar on Solaris with all of your artwork( major unit crest) up on the walls. And unit stickers from smaller units on every surface in between.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 06 April 2017, 14:25:22
Hello there,

thanks for the positive feedback! Unfortunately I am still in a hiatus, but I managed to complete three insignia I have been working on for a long time. Especially the lack of the 19th Arcturan Guards has long bothered me. I am sorry I could not work on requests, but I have not forgotten.

19th Arcturan Guards

(http://i.imgur.com/MBvzoIZ.png)


Kaumberg Planetary Guard

(http://i.imgur.com/hF8Jf3B.png)

Interpretation: this is based on the Kaumberg planetary flag (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kaumberg).


Norns

(http://i.imgur.com/D4dDBsE.png)

Interpretation: I changed the Steiner fist in the background to the pattern we see in the older Intelligence Ops HB (which sported different insignia for most of the intelligence agencies), because I like it better than the generic Steiner-logo.

Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 13 October 2017, 16:00:33
"Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic."


Yeah sorry, it has been a long time since I updated the thread. But I am sure I want to reply.  ;)

I have done a few insignia and would like to share them. Some of them were a request I got long ago and I finally finished it. Should I have forgotten about some promisses I made I am very sorry; just drop me a note.
Also, this post is the first to feature a Taurian unit, the Commandos.


The Duke of Duran (Frederick Steiner)

(https://i.imgur.com/3aGhRFO.png)

This is based on the drawing in the old Steiner sourcebook:
(https://i.imgur.com/8dSFcxX.png)



Defiance Industries Zeus

(https://i.imgur.com/0hXep7y.png)

Interpretation: Eagle and thunderbolt are symbols of Zeus in the Greek mythology, and they are combined with the Steiner-fist and the colours and logo of Defiance Industries.



Concordat Commandos
(https://i.imgur.com/WCkkYoL.png)



Black Knights

(https://i.imgur.com/Dhggl4h.png)    ...    (https://i.imgur.com/c9Ucwdz.png)    ...    (https://i.imgur.com/rEgZF4L.png)

Interpretation: this was a request by Black_Knyght; red is for the Mechs, blue for the fighters, green for the tanks
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Black_Knyght on 13 October 2017, 17:25:30
Absolutely FANTASTIC work with those! Couldn't be happier, and I'm very grateful too.  8)
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 16 October 2017, 05:38:06
Great stuff Fleig!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Deadborder on 17 October 2017, 16:21:33
These are really great stuff. Love the work you've done here, especially on some of the more obscure ones.

Would you be open to a Request?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 20 October 2017, 17:58:05
Thanks for the compliments!  :)

Would you be open to a Request?
Sure, absolutely. Just send me a PM and I will see what I can do. It's just that fulfilling the request might take a while and/or be beyond my capabilities.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: snakespinner on 21 October 2017, 04:09:07
Just found the artwork, very impressive.
Some of this artwork is a lot better than cannon. O0
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HunterGratzner on 08 November 2017, 14:22:39
Would you be interested in doing some more DCMS unit insignias? Maybe the 5th Sword of Light or some of the District Regulars?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 09 March 2022, 10:34:09
Would you be interested in doing some more DCMS unit insignias? Maybe the 5th Sword of Light or some of the District Regulars?

Well, it took me a while  ;D

The District Regulars were recently done, and much better than I ever could. Curiously the Sword of Light did not get an upgrade, though I can imagine why. One basically has to use textures, otherwise the insignia are very dull. I don't like working with textures either, but I gave it a try.

I also added Japanese numerals, because I really, really like numerals in my insigna. Hopefully they are the right ones. Anyway, here is the sword of Light.


Sword of Light

1st Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/cbvBQTz.png)


2nd Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/VabsYFr.png)


5th Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/HyWqEyK.png[/img


[b]7th Sword of Light[/b]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/8Z6QDZv.png)


8th Sword of Light

(https://i.imgur.com/7o2zAeR.png)




Furthermore, I added two FedCom regiments:

Federated Commonwealth Corps

1st FedCom Regiment (4th Succession War era)

(https://i.imgur.com/tjtueOq.png)

It was never shown, but described in the NAIS Atlas. Frankly I like the concept...


1st FedCom Regimental Combat Team (post 3055)

(https://i.imgur.com/4oXiI0G.png)

Again, I went with the description, even though the canonic one looks quite different.


4th Alliance Guards

(https://i.imgur.com/SpJsZUP.png)

Again, I added numerals...
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: mikecj on 09 March 2022, 13:42:17
Fantastic work!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 09 March 2022, 17:20:34
Thank you! Sometimes inspiration strikes.
Right now the Taurians interest me, but doubt I get to them anytime soon...
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Takiro on 10 March 2022, 04:33:13
Very nice!
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: whistler on 14 March 2022, 03:41:58
I love these. The quality and consistency are both outstanding. Must have been a lot of work even if it was done over several years. Great job.

I dig your rendition of the 6th's insignia. Mind if I make use of it?
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 14 March 2022, 17:39:28
Thanks for your compliments, that is very nice. Of course you can use my stuff, I would feel honoured.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: DOC_Agren on 20 March 2022, 21:00:12
I am wondering if you would look at making a Lryan style based on the style of
House Orlock (https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/8/89/Orlock_Symbol.gif)
House Steiner Fist wrapped in Chain

You have a hell of a talent for making these..  I knew of your Sohei ones.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: Flieger on 11 April 2022, 18:59:35
I am wondering if you would look at making a Lryan style based on the style of
House Orlock (https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/8/89/Orlock_Symbol.gif)
House Steiner Fist wrapped in Chain

You have a hell of a talent for making these..  I knew of your Sohei ones.

Thanks for the compliment!

Indeed, I think it can be done. I'll give it a try when I am on vacation, but that will not be any time soon.  ;D Sorry, but rest assured, I have it on my radar. I may take years, but it will be done.
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: DOC_Agren on 11 April 2022, 23:47:43
Thanks for the compliment!

Indeed, I think it can be done. I'll give it a try when I am on vacation, but that will not be any time soon.  ;D Sorry, but rest assured, I have it on my radar. I may take years, but it will be done.
Trust me I understand
Title: Re: IS Unit Insignia (interpretations and alterations)
Post by: HuronWarrior on 07 January 2023, 15:05:29
These are amazing!

If you ever got the chance in the future (and I understand you're busy), I would love to see some interpretations for Hamilton's Highlanders, Blackledge's Iron Hand (2nd Capellan Defense Force), or any Republic Armed Forces regiments that don't have their own regimental insignias (like maybe more of Stone's Brigade, such as Stone's Stalwarts, Revenants or Liberators).