Robotech licence to produce miniatures sold to Palladium Games - Unseen soon?

[ColBosch]

I'll but the minis, under duress because they are going to be pretty nice. And something is better than nothing. But I despise that my money will go to Kevin Siembieda and Palladium, and Some will go to Harmony Gold. But because of the licensing system I cant avoid that latter part.

Sure, don't buy them. They're just little bits of plastic, after all.

[Stormlion1]

Well I threw a few bucks at it and discovered that there will be an option for a different head as a throw in at the 140 bucks level. So yes, the VF-1S is kind of available as a extra.

[hive_angel]

I am gonna be freaking broke between buying BattleTech stuff, and now the new Robotech miniatures game....

I wonder how much i could sell my soul for ;D

Makes two!

[HeavyGun]

Is this game out yet?

[Stormlion1]

Is this game out yet?

Well the release date for the kickstarter says December, but of course not which year! (Looking at you OGRE!)

[Lord Cameron]

I'll not buy a single one. I have no desire to give any of my money to Harmony Gold. Not even indirectly.

Bravo!
I prefer all the Phoenix stylings  (except two) and have at least two more of each unseen (unpainted), so I wouldn't be buying them anyways

[Stormlion1]

I'm not getting these to use as Unseens, though if the scale was close I might use them. I'm buying them for their Macross origins . Plus honestly they don't look like bad mini's to paint.

[Lorcan Nagle]

Plus, there's every chance the game might be fun

[Stormlion1]

Plus, there's every chance the game might be fun

you know, I hadn't considered that. I just wanted mini's to paint.

[SteelRaven]

I might pick it up at my FLGS but just because it would be supporting my FLGS

[Sharpnel]

I absolutely will not contribute to this Kickstarter. I actually do try to consider who I'm giving my money to when I buy something, so why would I give Palladium or Harmony Gold a penny?

*Sharpnel endorses the message*

[Trystan Thorne]

Would be nice if the RoboTech license acquire by Palladium games would mean that the Unseen could return to BattleTech, but I doubt that.

At least with the Kickstarter Campaign now, people have a chance to get quite a few of the Unseen Mechs.

[Cergorach]

I absolutely will not contribute to this Kickstarter. I actually do try to consider who I'm giving my money to when I buy something, so why would I give Palladium or Harmony Gold a penny?

*Sharpnel endorses the message*

Do you consider who you give money to when you buy BT products? It's not as if everyone involved in that has exactly clean hands. The 'Exodus' wasn't just something General Kerensky did...

HG isn't exactly my favorite company, but they had an opportunity in an already messy situation and they took that opportunity, as a result they now control the Macross designs in NA. That whole Unseen mess you can land squarely on FASA's doorstep, if FASA didn't rock the boat we would never have had Unseen, we would still have had our Macross lovelies...

Palladium isn't exactly my favorite company either, mostly due to the owners personality, maybe he's a great guy to know but that certainly doesn't come across to the fans. But if a 'difficult' personality of a writer/gamedesigner was a reason on why you would stop buying products, we wouldn't have read books from a certain BT writer. Heck, I would think twice about doing business with Palladium and CGL, because both have a closet full of skeletons... And don't get me started on Topps!

Would be nice if the RoboTech license acquire by Palladium games would mean that the Unseen could return to BattleTech, but I doubt that.

#1 CGL wouldn't have the cash for it.
#2 Even in the cold dead hands of HG, no one would be able to pry it loose.
#3 I seriously doubt that Kevin would license the Macross designs to CGL/IWM, their main competition with this game.

On topic:

The free stuff for now seems to be LAMs and Ostscouts (as this is a BT forum, I insist on using the BT names ;-) , I just hope that one of the 'free stuff' stretch goals is a set of Rifleman + Warhammer and another Marauder.

I'm also curious about vehicles and infantry, especially the Zentradi Giant infantry.

[Sharpnel]

I'm not worried about Palladium or HG. The kickstarter has more than doubled it's original goal. this shows that there are more than enough Macross/Robotech fans out there to fund this. What I do with my money should be of no concern to you or them. I'm just stating my opinion on this issue. You don't like it and I'm okay with it. Just like you should be okay with me disagreeing with your opinion

[Cergorach]

What I do with my money should be of no concern to you or them. I'm just stating my opinion on this issue. You don't like it and I'm okay with it. Just like you should be okay with me disagreeing with your opinion

I honestly don't care what you do with your money, it's yours to do what you please with. I also don't mind (or care) about your opinion regarding any of the involved parties, you don't like some of them, be my guest. But ColBosch acts as if Palladium/HG are the devil incarnate and he's with the side of the 'angels' (maybe Hells Angesls ;-), you endorsed his view...

I don't mind you two having an opinion, it's just not appropriate to spout your opinion at every opportunity. Or do you find it acceptable for someone going to church during service and shouting "There is no god!!! Your all fools!"? Regardless of whether I agree with him or not, it's just uncivil to do that in that location at that time. The same goes for a Robotech/Palladium thread about producing minis (and a game) of figures most of us have wanted pack in print for a decade or two...

[Lorcan Nagle]

it's getting a bit heated here, guys, and I don't think we really need to rehash harmony gold's relationship to BattleTech again

[Istal_Devalis]

Palladium being Palladium, I'm not volunteering ANY money until product is actually out.

They're notorious for projects being late, or just not showing up, due to mismanagement and other reasons so my faith in them is a bit low at this point. I'll wait until the stuff hits shelves first rather then trust their word on this. Been burned before.

[Sigma]

Hell I chucked in for the lowest freebie package. Less than I gave for the IWM LAM Kickstarter and I should get some goodies out of it. I've gambled with more before.

But I'm not in any rush either. I may be singing a different tune if we're still talking about this in 2015. ;D

[Cergorach]

Next stretch goal ($220k) the $20 Destroid pack addon for two Mechs will be upgraded to four Mechs in any combination of Warhammer or Rifleman (enough parts to make four Warhammers or four Riflemen). Four Mechs for $20!

[Weirdo]

Twenty dollars plus the initial investment. What's the minimum contribution?

[Brother Jim]

$15 for a SE of Rick's Veritech in Battloid mode is the minimum pledge, then $20 for the Add-On Destroid pack (Tomahawk & Defender). Another $20 for the Spartan Add-On (Spartan & Phalanx) and $25 for the Valkyrie Wing Add-On (2 models of each mode). The Glaug is $20 for 1 model, the Regults are $25 for 6 models and the Zent Tri-Fighters are $20 for 2 models.

[Cergorach]

Twenty dollars plus the initial investment. What's the minimum contribution?

It looks like it's a $15 minimum for the Special Edition 'Phoenix Hawk' (+$8 shipping outside the US).

But unless you hate LAMs and Marauders, a $80 pledge gets you a basis of 30 minis. $140 gets you 49 minis (probably more after further stretch goals are reached)...

[Stormlion1]

The box set with many, but not all of the bonus's included is at 140 though.

[Weirdo]

Actually, looking at it, the minimum pledge is $1.00, and there's nothing that says that you can't put the add-on to that.

Hmm...while I doubt that we'll see this kind of momentum maintained all month, I think I'll see what's available towards the end of it. Even if it takes a long time for the stuff to show up, if I can be assured that I'll get some Destroids for cheap, I just might go in on this.

[Cergorach]

Actually, looking at it, the minimum pledge is $1.00, and there's nothing that says that you can't put the add-on to that.

I wouldn't bet on that. If you klick the 'Back this' button you can pledge the $1, but you won't be sent anything. I really think that the $15 is the minimum.

Hmm...while I doubt that we'll see this kind of momentum maintained all month, I think I'll see what's available towards the end of it.

It's doubtful you'll see $154k every day, if Ninja Division keeps the stretch goals as interesting and reasonable as they are now, expect the KS to reach far, very far. But pledge early and what you want (and can afford), because the more you pledge now, the faster stretch goals are reached, the more momentum this KS has.

Even if it takes a long time for the stuff to show up, if I can be assured that I'll get some Destroids for cheap, I just might go in on this.

This KS is done by Ninja Division for Palladium, Ninja Division is a cooperative effort of the game developers Cipher Studios (Anime Tactics & Hell Dorado) and Soda Pop (Super Dungeon Explore & Relic Knights), both have successfully funded Kickstarters. But both of them have not yet delivered their product, I have no doubt they will, but Relic Knights is estimated to be six months late, so expect the worst! ;-) The unknown in this equation is Palladium Books, how much control do they have, who has the hand on the KS funds, etc.

[Weirdo]

I might just ask them directly what the minimum pledge is.

This KS is done by Ninja Division for Palladium, Ninja Division is a cooperative effort of the game developers Cipher Studios (Anime Tactics & Hell Dorado) and Soda Pop (Super Dungeon Explore & Relic Knights), both have successfully funded Kickstarters. But both of them have not yet delivered their product, I have no doubt they will, but Relic Knights is estimated to be six months late, so expect the worst! ;-) The unknown in this equation is Palladium Books, how much control do they have, who has the hand on the KS funds, etc.

Eh, I can be patient, so long as I KNOW I'll get the stuff eventually. I'm still waiting patiently for RS 3057u, aren't I? :)

[Ian Sharpe]

I waited two and a half years for the Sling to show up.  I can wait for this stuff too.  Think I'll pledge later on.

[Stormlion1]

Shoot, look how late OGRE is running?

[Maingunnery]

Don't the Add-ons actually violate the rules of Kickstarter? The IWM LAM kickstarter had a problem of that they weren't allowed to offer extra copies of the base product.

[Weirdo]

These are only portions of the base product(and some of them aren't at all), so that might make it okay. For example, it looks like none of the add-ons will include the game rules, so there'd be no way so assemble the base product from the add-ons.