Author Topic: Robotech licence to produce miniatures sold to Palladium Games - Unseen soon? (Read 44069 times)

Lysenko · « **Reply #60 on:** 25 September 2012, 16:48:49 »

No. Monopoly laws do not apply to intellectual properties.

Sigma · « **Reply #61 on:** 25 September 2012, 17:35:36 »

Quote from: Cazaril on 25 September 2012, 10:49:33

Without asking for details... I shudder to think what that statement means.

Caz

You can get official Macross stuff in Btech scale from Japan without ever even imagining a HG logo.

Honestly real Ral Partha unseen at LotB are cheaper though, and metal.

William J. Pennington · « **Reply #62 on:** 25 September 2012, 22:49:42 »

Quote from: Cazaril on 25 September 2012, 10:49:33

I'm confused by this statement...

Why exactly are you going to turn your unseen into battlefield damage? Is it a Demo Team thing? Because you can't play them, you're going to destroy them? Their existence does not benefit Palladium from what I can tell... Wouldn't it be wiser to sell them to interested parties, that want legitimate copies of the unseen, then use the money to buy something else... I'm just saying it seems awfully wasteful... Unless they aren't legitimate copies...

Caz

They are legitimate, (trust me, I'd never, ever utilize a reproduction) its just that I can't use them at events, and now prefer not to even on my own tabletop. I just realized though using them for battlefield decoration still isnt viable if the parts are recognizeable, so I might just make them into a Christmas gift for some friends/collectors.

Having to repurchase and repaint the gaps in my units is a job I'll have to get around to, but it does give me an excuse to kitbash some re-seen into more primitive looking versions to create an earlier era look.

TS_Hawk · « **Reply #63 on:** 26 September 2012, 10:45:21 »

Quote from: William J. Pennington on 25 September 2012, 22:49:42

They are legitimate, (trust me, I'd never, ever utilize a reporduction) its just that I can't use them at events, and now prefer not to even on my own tabletop. I just realized though using them for battlefield decoration still isnt viable if the parts are recognizeable, so I might just make them into a Christmas gift for some friends/collectors.

Having to repurchase and repaint the gaps in my units is a job I'll have to get around to, but it does give me an excuse to kitbash some re-seen into more primitive looking versions to create an earlier era look.

can i be your friend :)

Lysenko · « **Reply #64 on:** 28 February 2013, 10:05:02 »

Update: From the developer's blog:

http://robotechbattles.blogspot.com/2013/02/you-wanted-pics-here-is-first.html

TS_Hawk · « **Reply #65 on:** 28 February 2013, 11:29:25 »

wow um...I believe they stole that pose from the re-seen Archer...

Sandslice · « **Reply #66 on:** 28 February 2013, 12:37:58 »

Quote from: TS_Hawk on 28 February 2013, 11:29:25

wow um...I believe they stole that pose from the re-seen Archer...

And the Hammerhands on the current intro box has its pose stolen from the Warhammer on the original '80s intro box. Best not to worry. :)

shadow_walker · « **Reply #67 on:** 28 February 2013, 12:44:05 »

Interesting. A robotech friend of mine would love this.

GRUD · « **Reply #68 on:** 28 February 2013, 12:52:27 »

I'm sure the Artist thought it was "Cool" to add them, but as they are, there's NO WAY the lifting arms could open the doors to the missile pods. The best they could do is open the doors straight up, which still wouldn't allow the missiles to clear the doors. ;D But then, when has "Reality" ever intruded too seriously into "Big Stompy Robots"? #P

worktroll · « **Reply #69 on:** 28 February 2013, 14:27:26 »

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● 1/285th scale game pieces with detail

I think this is codespeak for "Battletech sized" - as otherwise the Glaug will have to be big enough for a Valkyrie in battloid mode to sit inside it ...

ShadowRaven · « **Reply #70 on:** 28 February 2013, 14:33:33 »

I am so looking forward to these. It will be interesting to see how many of these are purchased for use with other gameing systems

Bedwyr · « **Reply #71 on:** 28 February 2013, 14:38:35 »

How much bigger is a Glaug or Regult compared to a Tomahawk?

avon1985 · « **Reply #72 on:** 28 February 2013, 14:39:40 »

looks nice, if its similar in size to the unseen I will be getting some.

Brother Jim · « **Reply #73 on:** 28 February 2013, 15:59:40 »

Destroids and Valkyies are roughly the size of the Zentradi pilots inside the Glaugs and Regults.

This has some comparison pics and data.
http://www.macross2.net/m3/forfansonly/zentradiheight.html

Edit2: I just skimmed over the linked article and I wasn't quite right. The average Zentradi is 10 meters, the Valkyrie in Battroid mode is almost 13 meters.

SteelWarrior · « **Reply #74 on:** 01 March 2013, 03:41:12 »

Im actually salty about this whole damned thing. Been following the palladium site for the better part of 6 months keeping an eye on this project, being both a huge robotech and battletech fan i would of spent hundreds on this new product. And after being promised delivery and production heading into full scale mode, suddenly, "hey kick starter guys". ugh.....

Burning Chrome · « **Reply #75 on:** 01 March 2013, 10:42:22 »

Quote from: Lysenko on 28 February 2013, 10:05:02

Update: From the developer's blog:

http://robotechbattles.blogspot.com/2013/02/you-wanted-pics-here-is-first.html

Wow, that actually looks pretty damn cool.

Always prefered the cockpit location on the "original" Robotech version vs where it is located for the CBT Archer.

I wonder if they'll have a variant where the center bay is opened as well?

If it is in scale for Battletech (BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA OMG, did I just say I just type that!?!) I may have to pic at least one up.

Thanks for the link!

Sandslice · « **Reply #76 on:** 01 March 2013, 11:22:46 »

Quote from: Bedwyr on 28 February 2013, 14:38:35

How much bigger is a Glaug or Regult compared to a Tomahawk?

Got some stats from over at mahq.net:

Glaug (Marauder): 16.5m, 41 tons
Regult: 15.1m, 37 tons
Defender (Rifleman): 11.3m, 27 tons
Tomahawk (Warhammer): 12.7m (11.3m eye-level,) 31 tons
Spartan (Archer): 11.3m, 29 tons
Monster: 22.5m, 285.5 tons! (The guns are 400mm caliber, or about 15.75 inch.)
Phalanx (Longbow): 12m, 47 tons

Veritechs (all): 12.7m (as battroid,) 13.25 tons empty, 19 tons with standard loadout, max gross weight 37 tons
There's also something called the Fast Pack, which increases the masses to 19, 45, and 72 respectively.

As for the Dougram based 'Mechs (for reference sake alone):

Dougram (Shadow Hawk): 9.5m, 20 tons
Ironfoot (Thunderbolt): 8.9m, 30 tons
Blizzard Gunner (Scorpion): 3.8-10.4m, 29.6 tons. Apparently it can tuck its legs underneath for extra height.
Crab Gunner (Goliath): 12.2m, 35.3 tons.
Roundfacer (Griffin): 10m, 30.5 tons.
Bushman (3050 Griffin): 9.4m, 25.5 tons.
Bigfoot (Battlemaster): 11.6m, 27 tons.
Blockhead (Wolverine): 11.8m, 31.6 tons.

TS_Hawk · « **Reply #77 on:** 01 March 2013, 11:44:06 »

Ok just out of curiosity why on the actual model for the Dougram Crab gunner they actually call it Tequila gunner? Will have to find a pic..

And it sounds like the Monster is pretty much a walking battleship turret

ShadowRaven · « **Reply #78 on:** 01 March 2013, 13:06:54 »

because the Monster is a waddling Battleship Turret?

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #79 on:** 01 March 2013, 13:21:44 »

Quote from: ShadowRaven on 01 March 2013, 13:06:54

because the Monster is a waddling Battleship Turret?

Until they turn it into a flying Bomber in Macross Frontier that is.

Maingunnery · « **Reply #80 on:** 01 March 2013, 13:40:50 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 01 March 2013, 13:21:44

Until they turn it into a flying Bomber in Macross Frontier that is.

Flying Battleship Turret.

worktroll · « **Reply #81 on:** 01 March 2013, 14:29:44 »

Quote from: TS_Hawk on 01 March 2013, 11:44:06

Ok just out of curiosity why on the actual model for the Dougram Crab gunner they actually call it Tequila gunner? Will have to find a pic..

THere are in fact two near-identical designs - one has 4 legs, the other has 6 (I had the kits once). Otherwise pretty identical. Can't recall which is meant to be the Crab, and which the Tequila, but IMO the Crab Gunner would be the 6-legger.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #82 on:** 01 March 2013, 15:50:56 »

Quote from: Maingunnery on 01 March 2013, 13:40:50

Flying Battleship Turret.

Now thats a LAM I can get behind! :D

George_Labour · « **Reply #83 on:** 01 March 2013, 16:28:22 »

I'm actually rather excited about this project. Mostly because I want a 'legal' version of the MAC II in 6mm scale. Plus as much as I love Btech and Heavy Gear I've been wanting a more anime style mech game for a while. A game where firing a hundred missiles out of your kneecaps as a teen idol singer destroys the enemy command structure with her love is seen as standard fare in combat.

Plus another source of unseens that's not a forgery is welcome for me. It'll let me finally try to do some posing and kitbashing without fretting over hacking apart my originals.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #84 on:** 01 March 2013, 17:27:51 »

You know its kind of sad all this hype about Robotech, if they were smart they wouldn't focus on the Robotech universe exclusivly but get the rights to do Macross as well. There is just as much info out there about that as there is Robotech, and honestly most anime fans who would be attracted to the game know Macross just as much as they would Robotech.

WilhelmRochRedDuke · « **Reply #85 on:** 01 March 2013, 18:24:44 »

Macross and Robotech are two completely separate licenses. Palladium only has License for Robotech.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #86 on:** 01 March 2013, 18:25:42 »

And the rights to Macross are complicated to say the least.

ShadowRaven · « **Reply #87 on:** 01 March 2013, 18:32:53 »

complicated is putting it mildly.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #88 on:** 01 March 2013, 19:42:56 »

The Licenses are complicated for the original Macross and the music. Disentangle the original Macross and the music and it gets less complicated especially when you get to Plus or Frontier which only had one production company and since were playing with miniatures who needs the rights to the music? Plus Palladium could just use the Robotech licence for the original Macross designs anyway so the original series is taken care of.

Macross 7 might be a bit more complicated then that though.

Brother Jim · « **Reply #89 on:** 01 March 2013, 20:08:25 »

Quote from: TS_Hawk on 01 March 2013, 11:44:06

Ok just out of curiosity why on the actual model for the Dougram Crab gunner they actually call it Tequila gunner? Will have to find a pic..
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Crab Gunner http://www.mahq.net/mecha/dougram/dougram/f44a.htm
Tequila Gunner http://www.mahq.net/mecha/dougram/dougram/f44b.htm
Desert Gunner http://toyboxdx.com/datafiles/data/dougram/images/144-06.jpg