More crack please

[Pa Weasley]

If nothing is listed, it likely mounts industrial or heavy industrial which are functionally BAR 10 like standard BattleMech armor. Were commercial armor mounted there would be a "BAR 5" down by the legs of the armor diagram. I'm away from all me stuff to actually verify what it mounts thought, sorry.

[jymset]

Neither Industrial nor Heavy Industrial armor are functionally different to normal armors. The latter is actually identical to standard armor. In the early days of Indies, there was the notion that they were saddled with inferior armor and any combat-grade armor was a refit.

This never properly carried across into CBT as soon as the first canon units were released. VA stipulated errata in TM which made Heavy Industrial historically available. This in turn meant that there was no need for further advanced armors to implement the RS MWDA Indies.

Note that the third civilian armor type does have a game effect in conferring BAR5, which will then be noted on the armor diagram.

[jymset]

From the looks of it, the Dig King appears to be what was MWDA's MiningMech which they had in clicky game and in MWDA Record Sheet Books 1.

Yes, RS VA replaces the Indies of RS MWDA1. Any subtle changes should be considered corrections. The AgroMech was deliberately not covered, as some existing DA fluff was difficult to accomodate. Note that the Dig King had always been part of the Dig Lord's fluff - this had been a long time in the making. And since the DA version's tracks habe still not been covered yet, there's still hope the story will continue.

[Wrangler]

Yes, RS VA replaces the Indies of RS MWDA1. Any subtle changes should be considered corrections. The AgroMech was deliberately not covered, as some existing DA fluff was difficult to accomodate. Note that the Dig King had always been part of the Dig Lord's fluff - this had been a long time in the making. And since the DA version's tracks habe still not been covered yet, there's still hope the story will continue.

Oh snap, i forgot about the Tracked Feet the Dig King aka ye olde Mining Mech had.

[nckestrel]

Hopefully, now that we have a Record Sheet book of items most people won't use in comparison to something else...I HOPE we will some day get a Record Sheet book of the currently unsupported items like the Dire Wolf "Lone Wolf" or Vlad's Executioner, and SOOO many others that don't have official Record Sheets for them. THOSE would be used MUCH more in my opinion than Exoskeletons & Industrial Mechs...but I've been known to be wrong here or there.

Until we have a sheet for Tanaka's Panther, I hear nothing you say about record sheets :).

[Dragon41673]

I honestly think it would be a really good idea to put all of the Unique and/or Personality mechs in to a single Record Sheet book.

[Weirdo]

...I rather like that idea myself. Too often, I find myself overlooking those sheets, simply because they fade into the background of regular RS books. A RS: Personalities would give players an easy resource to throw unique allies or enemies into their games.

[Dragon41673]

...I rather like that idea myself. Too often, I find myself overlooking those sheets, simply because they fade into the background of regular RS books. A RS: Personalities would give players an easy resource to throw unique allies or enemies into their games.

Exactly...and it would clean up things like Vlad's Executioner that's technically illegal! LOL We already have things like Dire Wolf "Prometheus", Hohiro, and Widowmaker" as well as Kai's Yen-Lo-Wang...but why not add to the personalities??? There are so many that are mentioned, but have no official stats for them. Hell...I'd even volunteer unpaid to make up record sheets for them just so this book would come out!

[Weirdo]

Yeah, a Personalities book that compiles all the existing ones and adds even a small handful of new sheets would sell well, I suspect.

Hell...I'd even volunteer unpaid to make up record sheets for them just so this book would come out!

Just like a large majority of the existing volunteer staff. You'd be amazed how many volunteers there are in the Battletech production process. O0

[gooseman]

You'd be amazed how many volunteers there are in the Battletech production process. O0

It's true.

[Dragon41673]

I knew there was a "pool" of them, but I honestly have no idea how high that number goes! I'd have to think at least a hundred, if not a couple hundred if a lot of them only do something 1 time and never touch it again.

[Weirdo]

I have no idea what the true numbers are, but to me, it sometimes seems like an officer/enlisted ratio. Imagine CGL as a military, and then realize that only the officers are drawing a paycheck.

[Dragon41673]

True, and I actually kinda thought of the business like that with all the volunteers! LOL

[cavingjan]

I suspect that the bulk of the unique recordsheets are found in the Turning Point series.

[Dragon41673]

I suspect that the bulk of the unique recordsheets are found in the Turning Point series.

We're speaking of the ones that have not been done yet.

[Dragon41673]

Although it's nice to FINALLY have an RAT that includes the Burrocks...I just noticed, only Clan Cloud Cobra has the Highlander IIC listed in OP: Revival RAT.

I had to go back & re-read the entry for the mech in TRO:3060, and what I thought was right...the Star Adders field a lot of them because of their absorption of the Burrocks, as well as the Blood Spirits & Wolves field a large number of them, yet the only Clan that has them listed is Cloud Cobra! I know the size limitation of the RAT is probably the reason, but it seems like it should have made at least 1 entry on the Burrock, Blood Spirit, and Wolf sections. Especially since the Blood Spirits usually go for Standard designs rather than Omni's due to their limited resources.

[nckestrel]

Clan Burrock was absorbed in 3059. So Star Adder wouldn't have acquired its yet.  Clan Wolf and Blood Spirit are said to have gotten (opened a cache in the first case and refitted ones for the second case presumably) theirs as a result of recent (compared to 3060) losses.
 I haven't gotten Operation Revival yet, but I assume its RATs are set for before 3059?
No idea why Burrock wouldn't have them though.  (did burrock have that many other choices?)

[Dragon41673]

Clan Burrock was absorbed in 3059.  I haven't gotten Operation Revival yet, but I assume its RATs are set for before 3059?

Highlander IIC was available as of 2858 for the standard configuration

[nckestrel]

Yes, but the information as to who has them in TR3060 refers, in every case except for inference for Burrock itself (not Star Adder), to later events.  So the RATs shouldn't be based on that information.

[Drewbacca]

Although it's nice to FINALLY have an RAT that includes the Burrocks...I just noticed, only Clan Cloud Cobra has the Highlander IIC listed in OP: Revival RAT.

I had to go back & re-read the entry for the mech in TRO:3060, and what I thought was right...the Star Adders field a lot of them because of their absorption of the Burrocks, as well as the Blood Spirits & Wolves field a large number of them, yet the only Clan that has them listed is Cloud Cobra! I know the size limitation of the RAT is probably the reason, but it seems like it should have made at least 1 entry on the Burrock, Blood Spirit, and Wolf sections. Especially since the Blood Spirits usually go for Standard designs rather than Omni's due to their limited resources.

Could just be that the units selected for the trials had these units. So it is possible that the Highlander IIC did not appear in the Burrock trinaries that took part in the trials.

[Dragon41673]

Yes, but the information as to who has them in TR3060 refers, in every case except for inference for Burrock itself (not Star Adder), to later events.  So the RATs shouldn't be based on that information.

Ah, ok, I understand. Thanks!

[BrokenMnemonic]

Does the Revival Trials OTP list provide any detail on WarShips that hasn't been seen before? I'm curious as to whether something like the class of the Carmine Justice is revealed.

[Takiro]

Does the Revival Trials OTP list provide any detail on WarShips that hasn't been seen before? I'm curious as to whether something like the class of the Carmine Justice is revealed.

Sadly no. There are some units listed but I would really love a Field Report Clans 3050.

[I am Belch II]

Sadly no. There are some units listed but I would really love a Field Report Clans 3050.

I will take any book that has more Warships in it.

[Alan Grant]

This book is virtually devoid of any and all references to warships. There is nothing here to satisfy a warship lover's thirst. I'm a warship fan too, I looked.

[worktroll]

From the looks of it, the Dig King appears to be what was MWDA's MiningMech which they had in clicky game and in MWDA Record Sheet Books 1.   

The MW:DA MiningMech is the 35-ton MiningMech, which has a BT-scale mini from IWM. There's also the Dig Lord from TRO:VA, which is a 65-tonner, strongly visually similar to the MiningMech, with the major difference being it lacks track feet. Curiously enough, the MW:DA MiningMech figure is beautifully sized to serve as a Dig Lord mini in BT scale (as above).

The Dig King is a previously un-statted predecessor to the Dig Lord. Will be interested to see what they did with it.

[Dmon]

Is Op Revival up on Battleshop?

I can't find it. Search comes up negative.

[mikecj]

Yes, I bought it yesterday.

[Dmon]

Got a link if you don't mind?

[Klat]

Is Op Revival up on Battleshop?

I can't find it. Search comes up negative.

Here you go