Ad Securitas Per Unitas: The Republic of the Sphere

[Empyrus]

The Objectives series was also a nightmare of inaccuracies if I remember right, and a colossal headache for the developers both before and after release.

Your best bet may seriously be going planet by planet in the ROTS to compile objectives information.  It's not convenient, but the information you're looking for isn't available conveniently.

I was afraid of that. I'll scribble that to my to-do list, "take notes about planets whenever reading about one within RotS space".
Oh, well, not like what i'm asking is truly important. Was just trying to figure how common various designs might be for sake of force building. Eg if a design is listed in MUL, it must be available, but whether or not it is manufactured can be used to gauge how common it is.

[MadCapellan]

The Objectives series was also a nightmare of inaccuracies if I remember right, and a colossal headache for the developers both before and after release.

Actually, the Objective PDFs as errata'd up on the errata section are dead on accurate, but they are a snap-shot in an entirely fluid period of time. Between the conflicts in the immediate follow-up to the Jihad & Stone's disarmament program, there's very little to establish what was still in production in 3085 from 3079, let along 3130.

[Nav_Alpha]

Actually, the Objective PDFs as errata'd up on the errata section are dead on accurate, but they are a snap-shot in an entirely fluid period of time. Between the conflicts in the immediate follow-up to the Jihad & Stone's disarmament program, there's very little to establish what was still in production in 3085 from 3079, let along 3130.

I can’t tell you how much I love the Objectives series as a player who’s favourite era is post-Jihad through to the turn of the century.
I do wish we got an Objectives: Republic though...

[Kojak]

I will second that: I still get a ton of use out of those to this day. A snapshot is still better than nothing at all. (That said, I would kill for a 3145 update of the series.)

[Sartris]

RE more objectives

Theoretically, wouldn't a new series of Objective books be a lot simpler to make? Your starting point would be the 3079 objectives, and from there you've got two TROs, two Field Manuals and a handful of sourcebooks to check and reference.

The fact that some of the actual contributors to the research have spoken up in this thread and said they lacked interest in them kind of seals that deal. Back when I was still a freelancer, I remember once proposing it and having the devs scream at me, citing the trauma of Objective Raids. When it was considered again under my developer time, I had already explored the possibility further and concluded the time and research level was just too demanding (bear this in mind: when I was doing that, only about 15 years of game time had passed since the last OR book, and we had plenty of TROs to check through, which should have theoretically been a snap). And yet, I still opted to abandon the idea because the original OR sold poorly by all accounts I had.

It was only when a freelancer volunteered to put together a whole series in PDF form, and "subcontract" with other writers and fact-checkers to get the data together and presentable, that I felt it was worth a shot... And that freelancer burned out after completing only two of the seven PDFs we'd planned, thus slowing the release of the remainder. So, even with the much greater fact-checking capacity and writing team we had at our disposal, they proved extremely daunting.

Thus, yeah. It's doubtful we'd try that again.

they were indeed great and sadly a feat (likely) never to be repeated

[ArkRoyalRavager]

So when is IlClan coming out?

[Sartris]

this year. allegedly.

[Wrangler]

So when is IlClan coming out?

It depends on how busy they are with the kickstarter. That's what held up the book in the first place. That other projects too. Now you have a pandemic going on so that's going to delay things too. I hope not! Remember cgl has a very small staff.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

this year. allegedly.

I wouldn't be surprised  ::)

It depends on how busy they are with the kickstarter. That's what held up the book in the first place. That other projects too. Now you have a pandemic going on so that's going to delay things too. I hope not! Remember cgl has a very small staff.

I don't understand putting a massive distraction first when ilClan had already been delayed for 8 years or so.

[Sartris]

what's not to understand? the kickstarter poured in millions of dollars and created massive interest in the game line. ilClan is a nice little hobby project you putter on after the kids go to bed in comparison

[Drewbacca]

I would think the Clan Invasion kickstarter served a couple of puposes. One, it brought in needed funds to help them complete work on other projects. Second, it rikindles interest in the Clans going into the ilClan book.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

It's not like ilClan will need a lot of capital, if you use Shattered Fortress as a metric.

[Wrangler]

Republishing the Wars of Reaving is additional backing for the Clan Invasion interest and moving forward with the IlClan Era as well.'
The company setting up everything so the Clans are better understood and people are interested in them have everything going for it.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

This is true. However, going by this route it's better that they do it together with Historical: Operation Klondike for people to really understand where the Clans came from.

[Wrangler]

Yes. That's true.  Operation Kodiak would be a thing have reprinted.

So won't (yet to be released) Technical Readout: Golden Century - This is since it goes into the gaps history that some historical Field Guides don't go into.  I enjoyed The Clans Warrior of Kerenseky and MechWarrior's Guide to The Clans.  Which both fill in some tidbits of info on in between years leading to the Clans sending their scout mission to Inner Sphere aka the Dragoons.  However, some things are likely missing.    Era Report: Golden Century did good job, but it was too short for me.  :D

[ArkRoyalRavager]

Yes, that was really short. Another product that should be promoted are the Clan-specific novels: Blood of Kerensky trilogy(Wolf), Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy(Jade Falcon), Twilight of The Clans+Forever Faithful(Smoke Jaguar) and Betrayal of Ideals(Wolverine).

Reading these will get fans behind each of these Clans during their most badass moments and characters. Betrayal of Ideals and Forever Faithful could both hint at ilClan events too. The Jaguars already set foot on Terra during the Jihad era while the Wolverines might return from hiding in the Magistracy or Rimward Periphery to play kingmaker.

[False Son]

Actually, the Objective PDFs as errata'd up on the errata section are dead on accurate, but they are a snap-shot in an entirely fluid period of time. Between the conflicts in the immediate follow-up to the Jihad & Stone's disarmament program, there's very little to establish what was still in production in 3085 from 3079, let along 3130.

This was not something I had considered, even though it is really obvious.  The Capellan OR might be the most accurate?  Or. the ome with the fewest losses from their listed sites, as the Confederatio continued war production after the Jihad.

I can’t tell you how much I love the Objectives series as a player who’s favourite era is post-Jihad through to the turn of the century.
I do wish we got an Objectives: Republic though...

There are some real gems in there that show how much the balance of power has changed.

[Drewbacca]

I have a question, which FWL subfactions had the best relationship with the Republic?

[Wrangler]

Spirit Cats i would think. League was not huge fan of the Republic. Liao was head of the on the "We don't like you." List. Spirit Cats joined the League but their mostly former Republicans.

[Deadborder]

I have a question, which FWL subfactions had the best relationship with the Republic?

None of them, really.

The Marik-Stewart Commonwealth and Republic were effectively at war from the Republic's creation. The same conflict saw the poisoning of relations between Oriente and the Republic due to an intelligence failure.

The Republic didn't like Regulus due to their indiscriminate use of Nuclear weapons to wipe out entire worlds that may have had Blakeists on them.

Relations between the Republic and the other former FWL states were largely neutral, simply because they didn't share borders.

[False Son]

I have a question, which FWL subfactions had the best relationship with the Republic?

Tamarind-Abbey, maybe?

[GreekFire]

Tamarind-Abbey, maybe?

Yeah, that's my call as well.
Final Reckoning calls them nominal allies, with Tamarind-Abbey being able to contribute much to their relationship due to the belligerence of the Lyrans and their general overall weakness.

The other states either don't care, or are actively hostile.

[False Son]

It might be cheating to say The Covenant Worlds, as many of them had been Republic.  Not sure Thaddeus bore the Republic much hostility, besides disillusion with the idea.

[Scotty]

It is emphatically not the Covenant Worlds.  Thaddeus was a former Paladin cannibalizing his former state to build his own fiefdom; not something that would endear him to the Republic government if they'd had a good way to do anything about it.

[False Son]

Wasn't he doing so with the knowledge of the Republic government?

[Scotty]

Wasn't he doing so with the knowledge of the Republic government?

Most of the things that were happening outside of Prefecture X were done with the knowledge of the Republic government.  I would wager that the majority of those things were not seen as beneficial.

[Wrangler]

Wasn't he doing so with the knowledge of the Republic government?

It was his initial idea to establish the neighborhoods around the Republic's Prefecture X.  So in end would be easier for the resurrected Republic to reclaim them for their own campaign of reclaiming the the Republic.

He wanted preserve what was best of the Republic, but i do think he lost faith in the Republic ability to pull it's self together.  Covenant Worlds was one the key factors in resurrect the Free Worlds League.