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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #30 on: 15 August 2017, 09:22:18 »
LCT-1M. Twin LRM-5s to rain down a barrage on the enemy, a laser for backup... and by having one ton of armor total, it will die from one or two decent-sized hits, which means it's a great scout Mech- I now know where the enemy is because of the pall of smoke rising from over behind those low hills!
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #31 on: 15 August 2017, 09:27:58 »
My only issue with the Spider is the same as with the Ostscout: its weapons are all torso-mounted, so it's got a significant blind spot if it's engaged by another fast scout (such as while being chased).  Otherwise, both are excellent in their roles.

K Variant then.  It takes out 1 ML and some armour (which was already paper thin) and replaced it with a machine gun in each arm and 1/2t of ammo.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #32 on: 15 August 2017, 09:29:52 »
The spider won my heart early on.

Just to give you a primer. I'd been a fan of Battletech since I was 8 years old, but due to reasons, couldn't really get into anything more in-depth beyond the CCG until I was 18. My first exposure past that was not actually the wargame as with most (There had not been a starter box on any shelves anywhere in my town since the 4th edition, long since phased out, and the 5th edition pre-Catalyst wasn't a common sight) but rather through Mechwarrior 2nd edition acquired through 5th-letter-cove (Not allowed to say it. Do the math). I created a GMPC due to lack of players, and ended up with a Spider. At first I grumbled and groaned because it had no guns or ejection seat, but quickly learned that TMM is a thing, and not being shot on anything less than 11 is frequently a bigger help than 12 tons of armor.

I still have yet to play a scenario where scouting is a real thing, but it was thanks to that early experience that I learned that simply strapping as much guns and armor onto a 100-ton chassis isn't the be-all-end-all. Official BT maps are usually much more generous than randomly generated ones, but there are times where jumpless mechs are hamstringed my terrain. I like that the Spider gives the option to run for +4 TMM, or jump for the same. Plus, the ability to 2ML, and choose between whether to take the -2 to hit to risk a PSR, or opt instead for punches without any cost during the shooting phase like you'd see with the Quickdraw, Clint, Assassin, or Stinger.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #33 on: 15 August 2017, 09:45:33 »
Argus 4D . Yes it is a heavy mech but it has a chance of taking down what it encounters not just runs away and report

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #34 on: 15 August 2017, 10:23:13 »
Argus 4D . Yes it is a heavy mech but it has a chance of taking down what it encounters not just runs away and report
That's what's known as "recon in force", where you go in with the big guns to see what's there.  It works for House Steiner, using fast Zeus and Banshee scouts to figure out the best place to send in the slower Atlases between parties.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #35 on: 15 August 2017, 10:36:08 »
The Stealth, whether 1D or 2D.  It's nippy, it's got a reasonable punch
and it's well kitted for the essential electronics.  it also satisfies the two
most important other factors for me, it's Davion made and looks cool.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #36 on: 15 August 2017, 10:44:40 »
The Stealth, whether 1D or 2D.  It's nippy, it's got a reasonable punch
and it's well kitted for the essential electronics.  it also satisfies the two
most important other factors for me, it's Davion made and looks cool.

We'll disagree on that last portion, understandably, but I'll back the rest for sure. Stealths are a lot of fun to use- great scout hunter, tank-parker, beefy recon unit (especially downtown)... it's like the FedSuns sat down with the Assassin and said "the idea is nice, now how do we get it to not suck?", and came up with very, VERY good answers to the questions. One of my favorite IS designs, probably my absolute favorite FedSuns design.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #37 on: 15 August 2017, 10:50:15 »
The True Scouts just go right on forward.

There's a definite difference between favorites and optimals,

ex. JR7 (favorites), Raven/Ostscout/Locust (optimals).

Not to mention the ppl who take the time to find the less commonly well known units.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #38 on: 15 August 2017, 14:19:45 »
Lights: Locust,  looks alone wins it but she's a dependable ride.

Medium: Shadowhawk, not the fastest or best armed but a jack of all trades.

Heavy: Exterminator great mix of speed, armor and firepower.

Assault: none really but in a pinch I prefer the Charger K variants.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #39 on: 15 August 2017, 17:17:44 »
I kinda want to add the "new" Flea to the list. It's basically a locust but faster and with less armor, therefore even more fun.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #40 on: 15 August 2017, 17:41:25 »

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #41 on: 15 August 2017, 18:00:37 »
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #42 on: 15 August 2017, 18:18:27 »
I've grown rather fond of the Havoc of late. Sure it lacks actual recon gear, but it's like a faster, less explodey Jenner otherwise.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #43 on: 15 August 2017, 21:12:19 »
Just curious.  I've been playing around with Megamek of late, taking out different designs.  Iv'e found the Ostscout has become my favorite. 

I love the Ostscout--it's amazingly good at reconning things without being hit; in all my Megamek games, whether it's on my side or the OpFor, I've never seen one die, and only one ever ejected or surrendered, no matter how hard the odds--they just keep jumping and dodging.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #44 on: 15 August 2017, 23:41:25 »
For me it is the raven. Smart weapons package and full EW suite of tag, narc, probe, and ecm... what is not to love?
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #45 on: 16 August 2017, 00:24:21 »
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #46 on: 16 August 2017, 06:24:11 »
I love the Ostscout--it's amazingly good at reconning things without being hit; in all my Megamek games, whether it's on my side or the OpFor, I've never seen one die, and only one ever ejected or surrendered, no matter how hard the odds--they just keep jumping and dodging.

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Another game, I gave the bot Tripods to see what they did.  Spider jumped in, fired both med lasers, pushes the tripod off the hill it was on, down 3 levels into water.  Head hit, cockpit breech, dead tripod.  30 ton mech soloing a 150 ton mech?  I figured he never had to buy drinks from his unit again. :-)
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #47 on: 16 August 2017, 15:49:13 »
I believe in Recon in Force so the bigger and well-armored the better. Given this the MSK-9H Mackie sounds like the perfect ride.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #48 on: 16 August 2017, 19:27:13 »
I want stats for this. >:D

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #49 on: 16 August 2017, 23:03:22 »
Ablative reconnaissance will always be a thing. :)
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #50 on: 17 August 2017, 00:26:17 »
Really, anything 6/9/6 or better.  Size and tech level depends on the era, region, and unit type played.  Though I am a fan of the Phoenix Hawk.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #51 on: 17 August 2017, 01:55:44 »
The Parash, Bloodhound B2, Stealth 2D, Ostscout 9S, Cicada 3G and Stiletto 6S are all favorites of mine, these days. That being said, I'm generally more inclined to use a combination of hovertanks and VTOLs for recon duties, rather than 'Mechs.


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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #52 on: 17 August 2017, 02:41:18 »
That's what's known as "recon in force", where you go in with the big guns to see what's there.  It works for House Steiner, using fast Zeus and Banshee scouts to figure out the best place to send in the slower Atlases between parties.
More like send your Marauders in, actually.  Check the 9S, it has a flamer for marking hexes, an ECM pack, and a Beagle Probe.  Stack all that up with two ERPPCs, an LB10, and two ERMLs, and you've got a great recon-in-force unit.  Makes a great ambush-tripper.
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #53 on: 17 August 2017, 03:14:25 »
I sm mainly a succession war played and gone it back far I would say the Locust as it's fast and has the guns to deal with other light mechs, vechiles or infantry they can't escape.

Slightly later I am a big fan of the Wolfhound. Sure it's not as fast but love it's silhouette along with its loadout.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #54 on: 17 August 2017, 09:15:54 »
Slightly later I am a big fan of the Wolfhound. Sure it's not as fast but love it's silhouette along with its loadout.
The Wolfhound makes a good scout lance leader, something for the Locusts, Wasps, and Stingers to fall back on in case something like a Spider shows up to chase them.  It's also a bit lighter and cheaper than a P-Hawk.

As pointed out by previous posters, I would typically send in hovertanks or other light, fast vehicles as scouts in most instances, with a LCT/PXH lance of 'Mechs for those situations where the vehicles just don't cut it.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #55 on: 17 August 2017, 09:26:14 »
I sm mainly a succession war played and gone it back far I would say the Locust as it's fast and has the guns to deal with other light mechs, vechiles or infantry they can't escape.

Slightly later I am a big fan of the Wolfhound. Sure it's not as fast but love it's silhouette along with its loadout.
The Locust and Wolfhound are great mechs, but the lack of jump jets stops me from using them as scouts.  I like being able to get to places or over obstacles that purely ground-bound designs can't.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #56 on: 17 August 2017, 15:57:30 »
For the succession wars I'd generally go with an Assassin.  Sure the Ostscout and Spider are faster, but the Assassin can actually survive contact with the enemy scout forces.

Once you get into the clan invasion era, my allegiance switches to the Cicada 3F and G.  I wouldn't touch the introtech Cicadas with a barge pole, but the heavily armoured, jump capable versions are excellent scouts and skirmishers.

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The Assassin has enough speed and some armour to survive, and not enough weapons to think it can fight. The Cicada 3F has it all, and the 3G has the party favours. It's also about the only useful deployment of an ERLL I can think of, off the top of my head.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #57 on: 18 August 2017, 01:40:11 »
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The Assassin has enough speed and some armour to survive, and not enough weapons to think it can fight. The Cicada 3F has it all, and the 3G has the party favours. It's also about the only useful deployment of an ERLL I can think of, off the top of my head.

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Another huge draw to the Assassin for me is the LRM 5 not a lot of speedy recon capable units pack an LRM 5 in this era, and having the ability to reach out and punch other scouts and lights at 21 hexes really makes a difference. Sure an LRM 5 might not look like much, but when the mechs you are going up against are armed primarily with medium lasers and some mgs?
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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #58 on: 18 August 2017, 02:41:02 »
I haven't used it much in games before, but if we could get things to the point where we could introduce elements of scouting it would likely be my go to mech. A mech that is not an omni would likely be the Raven.

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Re: What is your favourite scout mech?
« Reply #59 on: 18 August 2017, 09:47:31 »
The lowly Firestarter.  If it runs into trouble it can cause havoc and leave.

 

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