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Turning Points: Tokasha
« on: 30 March 2019, 16:46:31 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with Turning Points: Tokasha.

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« Last Edit: 29 June 2022, 14:46:19 by Xotl »
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #1 on: 03 April 2019, 21:16:07 »
(This may not be errata if BV calculations have been updated)

Hello,
I noticed that all of the Battle Values reported in the record sheets in TP:Tokasha appear to be off. This is based on 2 observations:
1. Filling out record sheets using SSW v. 0.6.83.1
2. Publications that also report the same 'Mech, for instance the Coyotl and Lupus from Era Digest: Golden Century.

Here is the list of 'Mech BVs - Tokasha wrong vs. SSW and Era Digest: Golden Century (right):
Mongoose C - 1913 vs. 1372 (SSW)
Coyotl Prime - 2724 vs. 1974 (SSW and ED:GC pp. 22-23)
Coyotl A - 2419 vs. 1753 (SSW and ED:GC pp. 22-23)
Coyotl B - 1997 vs. 1447 (SSW)
Fox CS-1 - 1954 vs. 1416 (SSW, and yes, I updated the weapon file to include Clan Intermediates and Primitives in 2017...)  :D
Omni-Corvis Prime - 2316 vs. 1678 (SSW)
Omni-Corvis A - 2728 vs. 1977 (SSW)
Omni-Corvis B - 2263 vs. 1640 (SSW)
Lancelot C - 2705 vs. 1960 (SSW)
Lancelot C 2 - 3548 vs. 2571 (SSW)
Lupus Prime - 3351 vs. 2428 (SSW and ED:GC p. 24)
Lupus A - 2659 vs. 1927 (SSW and ED:GC p. 24)
Lupus B - 2739 vs. 1985 (SSW and ED:GC p. 24)
Minsk MNK-101 - 2793 vs. 2024 (SSW)

I did not get to the CVs or the AFs, they may be off as well.

Please some one check this, I don't want to misreport errata. Thanks!
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #2 on: 03 April 2019, 21:37:46 »
I can confirm the Minsk. I checked it five times trying to figure out what I missed

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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #3 on: 05 April 2019, 08:59:44 »
It appears when the record sheets got made, a Clan 4/3 pilot was included.
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #4 on: 18 May 2019, 20:38:02 »
From "Random Assignment Tables: Tokasha 2921"

p. 6, "HELL'S HORSES, LIGHT 'MECHS"
Problem: RAT includes MCY-91 Mercury. There is no published MCY-91 Mercury
Solution: Change MCY-91 Mercury to MCY-99 Mercury

p. 7, "VEHICLES‡"
Problem: RAT includes "Bandit". The MUL indicates the "Bandit" was introduced after the Clan-tech "Bandit C"
Solution: Replace "Bandit" with "Bandit C"
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« Last Edit: 18 May 2019, 21:44:51 by S.gage »
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2019, 11:06:04 »
(This may not be errata if BV calculations have been updated)

Kokou Defense Tank (Record Sheet) for both the Standard Variant & XL Variant.
Problem: Armor allotment does not calculate correctly.  163 Armor points alloted to the Tank, however doing calculations, using Megalab. The tank is over 3 points with 10 tons of standard armor.
Solution: Either increase armor allotment by 10.5 tons and add the use up the armor and increase rear armor from 22 to 25 or reduce an 1 armor point from both sides and turret.


Xotl: Can you please add what version of MML you used?  Thanks.
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #6 on: 06 July 2019, 10:18:56 »

Problem: Armor allotment does not calculate correctly.  163 Armor points alloted to the Tank, however doing calculations, using Megalab. The tank is over 3 points with 10 tons of standard armor.


The Kokou has 8.5 tons of Clan FF armor, equating to 163 points.
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2019, 12:14:09 »
The Kokou has 8.5 tons of Clan FF armor, equating to 163 points.
ok, thank you.  Let me redo the issue report. Traditionally, record sheet that had vehicle with FF on it, say so. Thus why i was confused.

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Problem: Armor listed down not motion what type armor it is.
Solution: Add it's Clan Ferro Fibrous to record sheet.
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Re: Turning Points: Tokasha
« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2019, 23:13:11 »
Traditionally, record sheet that had vehicle with FF on it, say so.

Not so, at least since FASA days. :P It may be a good idea to finally change that in the future, but none of the CGL unabridged RS have stated vee armor types without game effect.

But I'm drifting away from the errata discussion rules on this sub-forum, MUL or not... O:-)
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