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Fan Fiction / Re: Opalescent Reflections
« Last post by Wrangler on Today at 13:10:31 »So is Ender a saKhan of the Diamond Shark or Sea Fox? I was bit confused where they were going.
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The Periphery / Re: Surviving and thriving in the Deep Periphery?
« Last post by Nerroth on Today at 12:54:48 »There is also the question of how dangerous - and to whom - the local life forms can be.
A good example of this is the Curse which afflicts the residents of the New Delphi Compact. it's pervasive enough that every world in their realm is impacted; deadly enough to outsiders to limit the threat posed by pirates and other intruders; yet, for lack of a better term, "manageable" enough that the Compact's medical researchers can at least partially mitigate the worst of its effects.
And yet, were here to be any serious threat of the Curse breaking out somewhere closer to the Inner Sphere and near Periphery, the kind of "preventative measures" this might trigger from any at-risk realm with a stockpile of WMDs and the means of deploying them from orbit would pose an existential threat to New Delphi and the other Compact worlds.
So in an ironic sense, the persistence of the Curse is both their best guarantor of independence (so long as contact with outsiders is kept to a minimum) and their greatest source of danger (both in terms of the threat from the Curse itself, and that which might stem from increased contact with the rest of known space).
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I should note that, for their own reasons, neither ComStar nor the Word of Blake saw fit to offer HPG technology to the Hansa, nor to the rival realms of Nueva Castile.
That said, HPGs are but one of many new technologies which Clan Goliath Scorpion has provided to the worlds of the Empire - to include its new enclave over in the Chaine Cluster - as of the ilClan Era. Both Touring the Stars: Valencia and Touring the Stars: Granada note the major uptick in industrial development on both planets, as the Scorpions sought to uplift the local technology base to full Clantech standards. While Touring the Stars: Braunschweig stops short of that world's conquest in 3140, the Empire's current capital world has itself seen significant changes - not least through the emancipation of the world's serf populace.
Well, in the Scorpion context, said "freedom" means being "free" to test up (or down) into one of the Clan's various castes. It did take the Scorpions a couple of decades to develop a more culturally flexible approach towards their subject peoples in the pre-war Imperio - which wasn't helped by their early wariness towards the Umayyads, due to the (as it turned out, unfounded) insinuations that they had something to do with the Not-Named Clan. And, beyond the troubles which took place during the war itself, there are those among the post-war touman who would prefer a more "traditionalist" Clan approach to governance, which has caused plenty of trouble on those planets where they have been stationed in appreciable numbers.
Yet even so, there are new paths to social mobility on the worlds of the former Hanseatic League that did not exist under the rule of the Council of Merchants - as evidenced by the rise of an ex-Hansa freeborn to the office of zarKhan, or head of the Empire's civilian government.
So, even if a Deep Periphery realm were to draw the attention of a Clan, or of some other outside military force, that might not mean the end of things entirely. Depending on which Clan (or which other outside arrival) is involved, it might instead mark the onset of a new and unexpected trajectory for the locals in that region of space - as had earlier been the case when the Umayyads first showed up in Nueva Castile.
A good example of this is the Curse which afflicts the residents of the New Delphi Compact. it's pervasive enough that every world in their realm is impacted; deadly enough to outsiders to limit the threat posed by pirates and other intruders; yet, for lack of a better term, "manageable" enough that the Compact's medical researchers can at least partially mitigate the worst of its effects.
And yet, were here to be any serious threat of the Curse breaking out somewhere closer to the Inner Sphere and near Periphery, the kind of "preventative measures" this might trigger from any at-risk realm with a stockpile of WMDs and the means of deploying them from orbit would pose an existential threat to New Delphi and the other Compact worlds.
So in an ironic sense, the persistence of the Curse is both their best guarantor of independence (so long as contact with outsiders is kept to a minimum) and their greatest source of danger (both in terms of the threat from the Curse itself, and that which might stem from increased contact with the rest of known space).
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I should note that, for their own reasons, neither ComStar nor the Word of Blake saw fit to offer HPG technology to the Hansa, nor to the rival realms of Nueva Castile.
That said, HPGs are but one of many new technologies which Clan Goliath Scorpion has provided to the worlds of the Empire - to include its new enclave over in the Chaine Cluster - as of the ilClan Era. Both Touring the Stars: Valencia and Touring the Stars: Granada note the major uptick in industrial development on both planets, as the Scorpions sought to uplift the local technology base to full Clantech standards. While Touring the Stars: Braunschweig stops short of that world's conquest in 3140, the Empire's current capital world has itself seen significant changes - not least through the emancipation of the world's serf populace.
Well, in the Scorpion context, said "freedom" means being "free" to test up (or down) into one of the Clan's various castes. It did take the Scorpions a couple of decades to develop a more culturally flexible approach towards their subject peoples in the pre-war Imperio - which wasn't helped by their early wariness towards the Umayyads, due to the (as it turned out, unfounded) insinuations that they had something to do with the Not-Named Clan. And, beyond the troubles which took place during the war itself, there are those among the post-war touman who would prefer a more "traditionalist" Clan approach to governance, which has caused plenty of trouble on those planets where they have been stationed in appreciable numbers.
Yet even so, there are new paths to social mobility on the worlds of the former Hanseatic League that did not exist under the rule of the Council of Merchants - as evidenced by the rise of an ex-Hansa freeborn to the office of zarKhan, or head of the Empire's civilian government.
So, even if a Deep Periphery realm were to draw the attention of a Clan, or of some other outside military force, that might not mean the end of things entirely. Depending on which Clan (or which other outside arrival) is involved, it might instead mark the onset of a new and unexpected trajectory for the locals in that region of space - as had earlier been the case when the Umayyads first showed up in Nueva Castile.
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MegaMek Games / Re: Coming Soon to MegaMek
« Last post by Illiani on Today at 12:44:58 »Great minds think alike. That's exactly what we went with :)
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Clan Chatterweb / Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Last post by rebs on Today at 12:41:36 »Updated definition for new times. I can see that argument.
The Horses may not be as exposed to the Great Houses and IS citizens as the rest of the Clans, but they also couldn't stay in the Home Worlds. Their interpretation of Clan Doctrine as handed down from the founders always made them stand out, and if they stayed there they would have taken a severe beating for nothing gained.
The Horses know they are not exactly conservative, I'd say. But perhaps by a standard that pertains to the 3150's, they are conservative. We could put the Bears there too. The Bears only have contact with the Draconis Combine, and they are certainly in no rush to embrace the ways of Kurita. In that way they would certainly be on the conservative side.
But as far as "pure" or "not tainted", the Bears are as screwed as the Wolves, Falcons, and everyone else. So we may have to examine things closer, as well as examine what markers we are using label conservative/liberal clans
The Horses may not be as exposed to the Great Houses and IS citizens as the rest of the Clans, but they also couldn't stay in the Home Worlds. Their interpretation of Clan Doctrine as handed down from the founders always made them stand out, and if they stayed there they would have taken a severe beating for nothing gained.
The Horses know they are not exactly conservative, I'd say. But perhaps by a standard that pertains to the 3150's, they are conservative. We could put the Bears there too. The Bears only have contact with the Draconis Combine, and they are certainly in no rush to embrace the ways of Kurita. In that way they would certainly be on the conservative side.
But as far as "pure" or "not tainted", the Bears are as screwed as the Wolves, Falcons, and everyone else. So we may have to examine things closer, as well as examine what markers we are using label conservative/liberal clans
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MechWarrior Hall / Re: Word Association 36: SAY WHAT AGAIN!!!
« Last post by rebs on Today at 12:29:59 »liquor
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Off Topic / Re: What Are We Listening To: This List Goes Up To Eleven!
« Last post by rebs on Today at 12:28:29 »Life During Wartime ~ Talking Heads
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Gaming Terrain / Re: Testpics: Geo-Hex Battlescape and buildings
« Last post by Daryk on Today at 12:11:41 »That looks cool! Where did you get it? :)
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Gaming Terrain / Re: Battletech on Heroscape terrain!
« Last post by Daryk on Today at 12:10:48 »That looks great! :)
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Clan Chatterweb / Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Last post by Gaiiten on Today at 12:00:54 »It's absolutely wishful thinking at this point, as we know that TPTB have no current plans for the Home Clans for the foreseeable future. T
Again, Alaric has a laundry list of much more immediate concerns, and the Horses certainly aren't on that list. We've seen no indication that he intends to punish them, and the Horses themselves have made it clear that they also don't particularly want to pursue a conflict with Alaric. If anything, Alaric was incredibly dismissive of them and seemed more than content to ignore them into oblivion instead of validating them.
We haven't seen any indication that the Wolves are still harboring a grudge over those events this many decades later. Not to say that they aren't, of course, because we all know how factions in BattleTech are about holding grudges, LOL.
It will be many years before Alaric is even remotely in a position to do something about the Horses.
Exactly this. Think of years, not of days or months. But IMO a there is no avoiding of a conflict etween both Clans possible.
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Not really, no. I don't see the Horses going to an enemy to try to fight off another enemy.
Maybe, the enemy of my enemy is my ally?
However, I have got it. You do not think so.
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I disagree with that assessment. The Horses are certainly not a conservative Clan by any stretch. They have healthy inter-caste cooperation (despite the Horses novel's blatant mischaracterization of things, the Horses have always had this going for them and it was shown as recently as "A Rending of Falcons"), are willing to deal with Inner Sphere powers on a mercantile level, are willing to embrace new technologies (QuadVees, TankWarriors, the continued use of ProtoMechs, etc.)... I just don't think that's an applicable term for the Horses.
All other Clans (even now the Falcons) have intertwined with the Spheroids people. Some more, some less.
The Horses have not done this.
This was meant with being the most conservative IS Clan. As it is described in the books.
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Off Topic / Re: What movies/tv are we watching part XXX, Back into the fray!
« Last post by I am Belch II on Today at 11:54:19 »More baseball movies with Moneyball and Trouble with thr Curve. To movies about the same thing but different sides of it. Scouts using stats with Moneyball or the human factor with Trouble with the Curve.
