Author Topic: Unmapped, lost or misnamed systems and planets (last updated 10 November 2016)  (Read 56785 times)

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Edit: This is a reformatted version of the same thread on the earlier, now lost, CBT forum. I have separated the intro posting (this one) from the list of found/identified worlds (second post) and the list of still unidentified worlds (third post).
Following community input, I'll keep the lists updated in the second and third posts. Thus, a search for a given name should immediately jump to its entry in either list.

The purpose of this project is to list all worlds (systems or individual planets) mentioned within the BT universe that remain elusive on the hitherto published maps, and to collect information on these worlds with hopes to pinpoint their location (in some cases, find them on recently published maps).

For the purpose of this project I consider a world/planet "unmapped, lost or misnamed" if it is mentioned in an official (not necessarily canonical) BattleTech product but shows up on no known map that would allow its jump coordinates to be pinpointed.

Formatting of the lists: Planet/system name (Source), known info, references

Color code:
Blue = Location mapped/identified, or already known under another name
Green = Location identified fairly well, but not precisely
Orange = Location estimated broadly
Red = Location unknown
Black = Uncertain if a planet or system of this name even exists (typos, mixups, etc.)

Underlined = Known world/system, cited for reference
Italicized = Reference to another unmapped system on this list
[In brackets] = Source is apocryphal (i.e. official but not included among the current canon sources)
« Last Edit: 10 November 2016, 02:12:40 by Frabby »
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Identified/found worlds and systems
« Reply #1 on: 26 January 2011, 06:33:03 »
- Ålborg, (map in ISP p110; Explorer Corps p99)
- Alexandra (The Clans: WoK p72), third planet in the Tanis system
- Alpha C (=Alpha Centauri?) (Mechwarrior 1, p128; 20YU p69), earlier name for Rigil Kentarus (aka Rigil Kent)
- [Ander's Moon] (MechWarrior computer game): Map location corresponds with Elidere IV, descriptions match; could either be Elidere IV or another inhabited world in the Elidere system (judging by being referred to as "Moon")
- Antwerp: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Aosia (HB:Liao; mapped in the HB:HD), FS world, massive CC attack in 2987
- Aragon: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Areseppi (Samad Abdul-Muhsi's pilot card) identified as a Correctional Facility on the planet Menkent
- Asturias: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Austerlitz (mapped in the Steiner Handbook - the Star League, and the 1st and 2nd Succession Wars maps), located approximately 55 ly anti-spinward of Canal
- Ballantre (Periphery Sourcebook p128), either a region on Nyserta or another name for that world
- Balligora (Explorer Corps): misspelling of OA world Baliggora
- Barnard (Mechwarrior 1, p128; 20YU, p69), earlier name for Caph
- Bergen (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Brazen Heart (Handbook: House Liao, p82) Moon of Brighton
- Bremen: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Brinton (mapped in Handbook House Davion p54, 60), TC world, home of the incurable Brinton Plague; 5th planet noted as an manufacturer and exporter of electronics in Objective Raids (may be inaccurate, or indicating two distinct worlds in the same system)
- Bruges (Explorer Corps), mapped in WoR
- Carsphaim (various DA material): misspelling for LC world Carspairn according to Øystein
- Castile: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Celeano (Periphery Sourcebook p85), misspelling of Celano - see post #5 (I take it his word as Writer is straight canon)
- Chisholm (Living Legends adventure) was the Star League era name of Elgin
- Columbus (see Epsilon Pegasus)
- Córdoba: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Coromondir (map in Handbook House Davion, p54, 60; Periphery sourcebook p96), a TC oil refinery complex destroyed by a MoC attack in 2896
- Danxiang (HB:HS p37), misspelling of Danxian
- Desolate Plains (map in Handbook Davion p49; Periphery Sourcebook p33), TC world between Midale and Brockway
- Dijonne, earlier name for Pain
- Dorwinion, not a planet, but a region on Belladonna where the firm Cal-Boeing of Dorwinion is located
- Dove (HB:HS p37; on map on HB:HS p25), LC world on DC border, rendered uninhabitable by DC attack in 2811; ~12ly below Caldrea
- Drovahchein II (Decision at Thunder Rift p68), in the "Erit star cluster". Circumstancial evidence plus the ruling that all IS systems are mapped by now means the Erit Cluster and its worlds including this one must be in the small explored part of the Dark Nebula.
- Eleuthera Meriba (shown on map in The Hunters p131), 6 jumps coreward of Waypoint Thorn?
- Epsilon Pegasus (Explorer Corps p20, map on p48), located in deep periphery coreward from Inner Sphere, 786 ly from Terra and ~250 ly anti-spinward from the known JàrnFòlk worlds (see Ålborg), determining its position fairly accurately. SL-era Columbus station on 4th planet is ComStar Explorer Corps HQ for Coreward Operations Area
- Erit star cluster (Decision at Thunder Rift p68), implicitly a small explored section of the Dark Nebula with several inhabited worlds; see Drovahchein II above
- Fanandir (Periphery sourcebook), misspelling of MoC world Fanardir
- Gabriel (Ruins of), shipyard facility hidden in the Odessa system
- Galicia: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Gateway: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Girondas (map in Handbook House Davion, p. 54, 60; Periphery sourcebook p. 96), site of a TC 'Mech complex, targeted by a MoC deep-strike in 2940
- Gorgon (TRO3075, map in HB:MPS p25)
- Granada: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Haddings (BC story Desperate Measures), mapped in HB:Steiner on pre-3025 maps
- Hamar (see Ålborg)
- Hegel (Handbook:HS p37, on map in HB:MPS p25), LC world in the Donegal Protectorate, decimated from epidemics by 2812
- Helios Minor (Rolling Thunder p5), typo for Hellos Minor
- Herakleion (Forgotten Worlds serial), faux name for Jardine; also occasionally spelled "Herakleione"
- Hofn (see Ålborg)
- Ilion V (mapped in HB:MPS p18)
- Jardine (mapped in Housebook Marik, p24), the "Marik" one of the 5 Hidden Worlds; mixup spiel with "Herakleion"
- Kazarka frequent misspelling of DC world Kazanka -see post #5
- Kerensky's Vision New colony established on former site of Qualip (HBHS)
- Ki Zoban (Periphery Sourcebook p38, on map in HB:MPS p147), OA world
- Klathan (Tales of the Black Widow Company) is the correct name for the system containing the planet Klathandu V
- Knutstad (ISP p47), on map in ER:2750 on p. 37
- Krakau (Planet): (FM:CrusClans, writeup for Clan Star Adder Xi Galaxy), planet in the Paxton system in the Clan Homeworlds
- Krakau (moon) (Brush Wars, Ronin!), Moon of Predlitz
- Lamar (HB:HS p37), mapped in 1st SW p. 50
- León: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Lysidas (Periphery sourcebook p150), where Redjack Ryan went on a rampage in 3017; world identified as Fianna in all later sources. BC story Trial of Faith established Lysidas as Fianna's main continent.
- Lübeck (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Mayadi (LinkNet), OOC identified as Tangerz
- Medron (Periphery sourcebook p37, om map in HB:MPS p147), OA world taken by Star League in 2582, site of Axel factory works
- Meglan (HB:Davion p45), also spelled "Megian" - earlier name of FS world Victoria until 2537
- Megaris (map in Handbook Davion p49; Periphery Sourcebook p17), TC world in Flannagan's Nebula, settled in 2310
- Multan (mapped in The Hunters p131), apparently only a misplaced map position for the nearby DC system of the same name
- Nam Dinh (HB:HM p35)
- Navarre: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- New Dallas (mapped in HB:Marik p23-25)
- New Florence (Camo Specs p31, HB:Liao; on map in HB:FS p62), Terran Hegemony world between Tybalt and Ronel. See reply #65 below.
- New Silesia (Periphery Sourcebook p53, Star League sourcebook p66, Steiner Handbook p30), large asteroid in the Star's End system (mining world where Richard Cameron was killed in 2751)
- Nexus Ri (Periphery Sourcebook p38, on map in HB:MPS p147), OA world seized by DC in 2582
- Norn (Mercenary's Star novel) is the correct name for the system containing the planet Verthandi
- Nuelson Minor (HB:Steiner p132; on map in HB:MPS p25), LC world
- Obeedah (LinkNet), OOC identified as Sharpe
- Orion Nebula (Explorer Corps), M-class system more than 1600 ly from Terra. On map in ISP3, p. 62
- Port Vail, earlier name for The Rack
- Ramen II (TRO3025, on map in HB:MPS p25), Centurion factory. FWL/CC border world
- Riga: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Rocky (BattleCorps: Hunt for Jardine Prologue, HB:HS p37; on map in HB:MPS p25), LC/LA world lost in a nuclear winter following LCAF/AFFS battle in 2789
- "Samoyedic Colonies" - see Union of Samoyedic Colonies
- Sardis (map in Handbook House Marik p34)
- Schrimeck, misspelling of DC world Schirmeck
- Sendai (map in Handbook House Steiner p36), DC world
- Stacha (The Clans: WoK p72), first planet in the Tanis system
- Tanis (The Clans: WoK p72), on map in WoR p. 227
- Taussen (LinkNet), OOC identified as Versailles
- Terra Prime is how Stefan Amaris renamed the Rim Worlds Republic capital Apollo for a while
- Tetski (Periphery sourcebook p96, on map in HB:MPS p93), site of MoC 'Mech complex
- Thirty Weight (HB:Marik p34; map in Handbook House Marik p34), FWL world
- Tomalov: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Treeline, earlier name for Winfield - see post #5
- Trondheim (see Ålborg); obviously not the DC world taken by Clan Ghost Bear/Diamond Shark
- "Union of Samoyedic Colonies" (MercSuppU p38), on map in ISP3 p. 50
- Valencia: (Explorer Corps), mapped in FR:Periphery
- Veil (MW3: Pirate Moon computer game; ISP2; map on German boxed set), was once called Oporto - see post #5
- Weissau, misspelling of DC system Weisau (apocryphal BattleTechnology "Worldbook" article names the world in the Weisau system "Brimstone")


The following worlds were removed from the project:
- Leisten: Meant to be Leiston in the DC. Not sure where/why this typo'ed spelling crept up.
- Riesling's Planet / Reisling's Planet: Apparently, the Black Widow Company took a detour through Davion space when attacking Hesperus II from Marik space. Doesn't seem to make sense, but is in line with the notion that the Dragoons deliberately tried to conceal the true target while moving. In any case, there's apparently only one such world and the correct name is "Reisling's Planet".
- Tabiranth: The original Marik Housebook has indexed "Tabiranth (world)" for page 39, where someone is portrayed as having political acumen like a "Tabiranth trader". Considering that the Tabiranth is a well-known type of xeno-cattle from a lost world (Jardine), I tend to assume that this mention is due to one of two possible mistakes: Either the reference was to the Tabrianth's lost unnamed homeworld (now known to be Jardine, formerly known as Herakleion), or the reference itself misinterpreted the "Tabiranth trader" as a trader from Tabiranth instead of a trader of Tabiranths. The latter is a more likely explanation, considering that Tabiranths are popular throughout the Inner Sphere and were exported by specialized breeding enterprises.
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- 129A-14H (J:FR, Wild Weasel track) abandoned colony near Jihad era Circinus Federation borders
- A2341CA (En Garde chapter 51), system in DC Dieron military district, K8 class sun
- Aerie (ISP p105) FWL planet lost during the Succession Wars
- Alpha Hydri (ComStar sourcebook, ISP2), "a desolate wasteland discovered a year before", i.e. in 3014, located within "eight to ten jumps from the LC-DC border regions" according to IPS2 p.19
- Altruis (BC:"A Distant Thunder"), blue giant sun system, recharging waypoint halfway between Nueva Castile & Hansa territory
- Anderson's World (HB:Liao p63)
- Bahr (TRO3025, Corsair fluff), FS world apparently near CC border
- [Barada] (Wiege der Basilisken, p. 35) - Uninhabited system near Terra in the FS Crucis March, Kentares PDZ (in the borders of 2835). Includes the planet Berceuse.
- Barbados = Gamma 1551 AV (BattleCorps), site of last stand of Clan Wolverine, location purged from Clan records
- Boltin (see EC-EY-4189)
- Bristol (Explorer Corps), place/location of a cache where Wolf's Dragoons recovered vessels
- Brussart (Star League Sourcebook p49, HB:MPS p19), TC world, site of a Taurian war atrocity
- Burroughs III (MercHB p93) Liao world on FS border
- Calaeras, home planet of Grayson Death Carlyle
- Cat's Eye 009 (see EC-EY-4170)
- [Cermak] (MW computer game), behind CSJ occupation zone, storehouse for SL nukes
- Chekaar (Decision at Thunder Rift), home (world?) of Singh; part of Ricol's fief (Kaesong in the German translation; judging by Øystein's statement, probably a secondary world in the Kaesong system)
- Cherid (The Fox's Teeth, p19), Rollin Stafford's grandfather was made Baron of Swale on Cherid for his part in the Cheridian Uprising
- CJW-7228 (TRO:VAp.40), a small system 3 jumps off the FWL border
- Cobsworth (Periphery Sourcebook) ex SDLF Support Colony near Marian Frontier
- Comstock (Periphery Sourcebook p58), MH world in 3025 (previously independent), near Francas; pirates from Comstock IV raid Campoleone in 3002 (BC Scenario Bank Shot)
- Corcyra (Mercenaries Handbook p70), FWL world
- Corigan (Star League Sourcebook p49), TC world
- Corpus Mortuum (MercSuppU p121) Abandoned colony on a methane world that died ca. 2669 when its Biodome failed. Presumably located in  the MH/CF periphery area
- Dahlgren (?), invaded by Kurita in 3016 (Lyran world?) - Mercenary's Star p.6 (Harvest in the German translation of the novel; judging by Øystein's statement, probably a secondary world in that system)
- [Delos VI] (TCI Model Set #8), LC world on DC border (not to be confused with FS Delos or FWL New Delos)
- Derby (Mercenaries Handbook p70), FS world in Crucis March (not identical with RWR world on map in HB:MPS p25)
- Dogg (I am Jade Falcon), LC world
- Dragon's Field (The Sword and the Dagger p46), FS world
- Drexa (Star League Sourcebook p44)
- Driscoll's World (BT boardgame rulebook, MW RPG 2nd Ed p. 119), target of deep penetration raid by Kurita merc unit O'Reilly's Heavy Cavalry
- Drune II (Decision at Thunder Rift p193, also GDL scenario pack p6), LC world 90ly from Trell (Beta VII in the German translation of the novel and Bountiful Harvest in the German translation of the sourcebook; judging by Øystein's statement, probably a secondary world in that system)
- Durham (Explorer Corps p99, 100), DC cache world in or near Deep Periphery. Slightly smaller than Terra, with similar weather patterns and climate. Situated approximately 7 ly from Isfahan and 15 ly rimward from unnamed periphery world where raiders found crashed Star League DropShip with 'Mechs
- D'Van's Star (Star League Sourcebook p86)
- EC3057-J83A (see Mundo Nublar)
- EC-EY-4170 (Impetus of War, Northwind Highlanders sourcebook), site of Nova Cat recharge station Cat's Eye 009 in the deep periphery, in striking distance (likely one or two jumps) from Wayside V
- EC-EY-4189 (Impetus of War, Northwind Highlanders sourcebook), system in the deep periphery where an abandoned Nova Cat depot sits on a planet named Boltin. Lies in striking distance (likely one or two jumps) from Wayside V
- [El Aïdi] (Die Albatros-Akte, p. 154) - Lyran colony world in the Protectorate of Donegal, abandoned in or just prior to 2838. May be fictional within the BT universe.
- Elidor (Mechwarrior 1 p109), DC world
- Ellison IV (HB:Steiner p117; TRO3025 Charger), LC world in Ryde theater
- Endgame (BT Compendium:TRoW p110), small star and 3 days travel from jump point to planet at >1G. May be a fictional world.
- Falcon's Beacon (Blitzkrieg:Operation ICE STORM Part 1), unmapped deep periphery JF watch outpost between IS and Clan Homeworlds with small garrison (ca. one star) plus support staff and a few warehouses; seized by Ice Hellions September 3071 as cargo convoy waypoint, reconquered by JF 29 September 3071
- Feng Pau (Mercenaries Handbook p70, 1st column, 3rd paragraph), FWL world
- Firthimond (Periphery sourcebook p95), agricultural MoC world defended against TC
- Francas (Periphery Sourcebook p58), near Comstock/MH; leather exporter, ex SDLF Support Colony near Marian Frontier
- Gallwen (Mercenary's Star p24), LC world one jump from Galatea
- Gamma Cygni (see Sador)
- Garrote (BattleCorps: "To Serve the Dragon")
- Gronden (Mercenary's Star p10), LC world near Verthandi (Volders in the German translation of the novel; judging by Øystein's statement, probably a secondary world in that system)
- Gutara V (Star League Sourcebook p97, BC story "Last Stop", HB:MPS), Periphery world located outside the DC; last known location of the Exodus Fleet
- Hamlin (The Sword and the Dagger), FS world
- Herat (Explorer Corps p98), one of 4 Khwarazm Empire worlds in the Deep Periphery; others are Marv, Nishapur, Urgenj (all mountainous with large deserts, slightly warmer than Terra and technologically under-developed). Jade Falcons occupied all in 3049, suggesting location in the JF invasion corridor coreward of LC.
- Hermione (WizKids HP), no planet but a moon (low gravity, uranium mining); former Bannson holding
- Hoan III (TRO3025, Union entry), FS world (possibly Hean; mentioning of "Hoan" instead of "Hean" in 3130 Republic World Atlas confirmed to be erroneous by Øystein)
- [Holloway V] (TCI Model Set #2), small, water-rich world deep within the DC
- Isfahan (Explorer Corps pg100), 7 light-years from Durham; conjectural information places it in the deep periphery coreward of the DC
- J-1256T (codename Damocles) (BC:Salvage), uninhabited system, one jump from both Nopah and Aldebaran
- Juniper (HB:Steiner p53; HB:HS p37), LC world on DC border, rendered uninhabitable in 1st SW
- Kapteyn (Mechwarrior 1st Ed p101), CC world; no connection established with famous Concord of Kapteyn which was negotiated and signed on Terra
- Kearny (TRO3025, Long Tom enty), FS planet (not neccessarily system name); context seems to rule out FWL system of the same name
- [Kiyev III] (TCI Model Set #12), deep in FWL space
- Kore (Ghost of Winter), DC world 10 parsecs from the edge of the LA, on the outer fringes of the Clan OZ’s. Owned by Alfin Mining Corp. Captured by Clan Steel Viper during the invasion, liberated by mercs since
- Korion (MercHB p83), CC depot
- [Kumkol VII] (Die Albatros-Akte, p. 154) - Lyran research station in the Protectorate of Donegal. May be fictional with the BT universe.
- Lincoln (HB:Liao, House Davion p68), WHs Imarra and LuSann defeated a Davion force here in 3001 (HB:Liao). Located in the Capellan March, but now uninhabited.
- Longbow Mountain (Mercenary's Handbook), Wilson's Hussars defeated here by TC and abandoned in OA so likely located in either TC or OA space. "Defeat at Longbow Mountain" possibly denotes a place on a planet, not a planet or system.
- Luyten 68-28 aka Luyten's Star (ComStar sourcebook, Bonfire of Worlds), primary ComGuard shipyard after schism, Faslane class built here. Confirmed location in RotS Prefecture X, i.e. within ca. 30ly from Terra
- Lynn's World (TRO3075), possibly near Brixtana in the MoC
- Lysander (Decision at Thunder Rift), Possibly not a planet but a region on some world; Grayson Death Thomas (ancestor of Grayson Carlyle), the Victor of Lysdander, was a powerful landholder here
- Marv (see Herat)
- Melisande (MechWarrior RPG 1st Ed pp113,123), DC industrial world and homeworld of Night Stalkers regiments, roughly near Kasai, Rowe and Galedon
- Meribah (The Hunters p172-173), water resupply point for Task Force Serpent
- [Mesa 7] (Battledroids), a planet with a secret Wolf's Dragoons presence re-discovered by House Davion around 3025. Apocryphal under this name; may refer to Udibi
- Mesozoa (Mechwarrior Companion p81)
- Mundo Nublar (ISP2 p. 19) "A barren world of perpetual storms and clouds, Mundo Nublar - then tagged as EC3057-J83A - was a marginally habitable rock a few jumps anti-spinward of the Chainelane Isles."
- [Muscatine] (Die Albatros-Akte, p. 154) - Lyran colony world in the Protectorate of Donegal, abandoned in or just prior to 2838. May be fictional with the BT universe.
- Naikongzu (ISP p.47)
- Newbraska (MechWarrior 2nd Ed p156), FS breadbasked world (Duchy of Omaha on northern continent)
- New Cleveland (The Sword and the Dagger p45), FS world
- New Karlsruh (HB:Steiner p66, Mercenaries Handbook p70, 1st column, 1st paragraph), small agricultural LC world in the Federation of Skye, ELH base after 2872
- [New London] (TCI Model Set #3), unimportant agricultural world implicitly in FS space
- New Nebraska (CBT Companion, p. 203), FS world, possibly meant to be Newbraska
- NGC-99382 (Blitzkrieg:Operation ICE STORM Part 2), uninhabited deep periphery system near Ice Hellion/Jade Falcon OZ; jump from there is "the first of many" along the Exodus Road
- [New Texas] (TCI Model Set #4), poor agricultural world on LC periphery border
- Nikko (Mechwarrior 1 p101), CC world
- Nishapur (see Herat)
- Niue (BC story "Commerce is all"), small world barely bigger than a moon, devastated prior to 3033 by two warring pirate factions; context suggests location in periphery beyond the FWL
- Nouve (Mechwarrior 1 p101), FWL world
- Opotiki (Explorer Corps), former ComStar facility spinward of the DC and rimward of Alfirk, captured by WoB
- [Orathon] (Die Albatros-Akte, p. 154) - Uninhabited system in the Lyran Protectorate of Donegal, one jump from both Mahone and Ludwigshafen. B0-class star. May be fictional with the BT universe.
- Patinir II (Mercenaries Handbook p94), LC world raided by Wilson's Hussars in 3018
- Pivot (Explorer Corps), Clan name for a hint at the location of the Clan homeworlds; known by the Inner Sphere under another name according to a comment by Jaime Wolf
- Quarantine (Battlecorps), Hanseatic League world
- Quinn (Sorenson’s Sabres p13), FS world
- Quinten (TRO3025, Packrat entry), FS world; possibly a typo for Quentin
- Ral (The Sword and the Dagger p60), FS world
- Randall's Regret (Total Warfare), periphery world
- Radalah (Mercenaries Handbook p69, 2nd column, 3rd paragraph), DC world
- Rahway II (Life in the Big City, CityTech/BC), FS world
- Redmond (Mechwarrior 1 p130)
- Relada (The Periphery, 2nd Ed, p80)
- Remis III (BT rulebook scenario, Wolves on the Border, Wolf's Dragoons sourcebook), site of a Davion/Lindon's Company battle against Wolf's Dragoons/Black Widow Company. The planet (or a place on the planet) is called Coursardin; in the novel Wolves on the Border there is a reference to a Dragoon operation involving the Black Widows at Courasin which likely refers to this same location. Conjecture indicates a FS place on DC border.
- Ross 248 earlier name for Terrelibre (see there); called Ross 2458 in Jihad Conspiracies
- Roxborough (Living Legends adventure), insignificant jungle world one jump coreward of Schwartz, discovered long ago but never colonized until it was settled (and named) by an eccentric ComStar Precentor in 3051 to serve as a secret supply base
- Rumor V (BC:"A Distant Thunder"), world in the general Nueva Castile/Hansa area; possibly identical with the colony world near Valencia that was destroyed around 3067
- Sador (Explorer Corps), 815 lightyears from Terra. Target of Explorer Corps scientific mission in 3002. Aka Gamma Cygni
- Savarin 223-74 (Starterbook: TSatD, p18), presumably in Lyran space near periphery, an infantry brigade and 2 regiments of armor from the 7th Crucis Lancers RCT inexplicably vanished here with their support units in 3058
- Sean (Mechwarrior 1 p101), CC world
- Siroc (Explorer Corps p98), independent Deep Periphery world occupied by Clan Steel Viper, previously used as a cargo waystation by Explorer Corps. Dense jungle. Settled by colonists from the Terran Hegemony in 2550, but soon devastated by a viral plague. Temple in capital built around defunct Vulture class DropShip.
- [Sturtevant] (Blackthorne BattleForce 1+2), FS world in the Capellan March along the Capellan border; 2nd Crucis Lancers maintain temporary operational HQ here in 3015 or 3025
- Sylven (GDL soucebook, p.6), LC world near Trell and Drune II (named Wroclaw in the German translation; judging by Øystein's statement, probably a secondary world in that system)
- Talley's Folly (BT Compendium:TRoW p110), may be a fictional world
- Tellmann (Mechwarrior 1 p101), CC world
- Terrelibre (ISP2, ComStar), ComGuard shipyard after WoB schism. Faslane class built here. Aka Ross 248
- Teukros (HB:Marik p139, HB:Steiner p76, 98), LC world near FWL border. Thomas Marik served at ComStar relay station here in 3025. Mentioned as "distant world" (from Loric) along with Poulsbo, Denebola V and Bobruisk. As of 3030 Thomas Marik is confirmed stationed on Son Hoa; Teukros could be a planet in that system.
- Thera (Mercenaries Handbook p70, 1st column, 3rd paragraph), FWL world
- Thomas (HB:Liao p86, 90, 99; TRO3039 Quickdraw), agricultural CC world near Purvo, tactically insignificant, not even included on many star charts, few resources to plunder, planetary militia with a reputation for dogged tenacity, Pavel Ridzik (Duke of Thomas) had estates here. Location of a 3011 battle between the Sirdar Capellan March Militia and St. Cyr’s Grenadiers, who were using Thomas’s north continent for training maneuvers. 3011 battle between the Liao Reserves (Trimaldi's Secutors) and the 42nd Avalon Hussars on Thomas where a Davion siege was broken by troops led by Pavel Ridzik, and yet another battle in 3011 where Ridzik led Stapleton's Iron Hand of the St.Ives Armoured Cavalry against the 33rd Avalon Hussars. Update: Øystein canonically confirmed that it is a secondary world in another CC system, thought it remains unknown which system
- Tianjin (Rolling Thunder p27), periphery world and pirate base apparently outside FWL space
- [Tibolt] (Blackthorne Battleforce 1+2), CC mining world on the FS border, "somewhere outside the CC border in the periphery"; "A tiny worthless rock [...] with an atmosphere of sulphur, fog, and rain". Invaded by Miller's Marauders (working for FS) and elements of the 2nd Crucis Lancers in 3015 or 3025, defended by Capellan Hussars and 3rd MAC regiment. Holds a 'Mech cache and something unspecified deemed yet more important. Hypotized that this became the MoC's mysterious source of 'Mechs and goodies. Implied to lie in Aurigan Coalition, TC or MoC terrain, outside CC territory. Not to be mistaken for Tybalt. Description perfectly matches Fjaldr.
- Travis V (TRO3025, Stalker; Life in the Big City), implied to lie in DC space near the FS border (possibly near Pike IV and Rahway II)
- Trentwash II (ISP2 p19, ComStar p45), within "eight to ten jumps from the Lyran-Combine border regions", "beyond the Elysian Fields", struggling RWR colony out of contact with IS for 300 years in 2973
- Trimerrion (The Sword and the Dagger p156)
- Trisha (ComStar, ISP2), where ComGuards fought the final battle against pirate forces concluding the Jolly Roger Affair. Located within "eight to ten jumps from the Lyran-Combine border regions"
- Tsanna X (HB:Liao, Mercenary's Handbook p93, TRO3025), world on the FS/CC border where WH Ijori mauled FS forces in 3003. Not to be mistaken for Tsamma on the FS/DC border. Mentioned as "Tsanna X" in MercHB.
- Tsarina (Mercenary's Handbook p93), FS/CC border world
- Tumbleweed (HB:MPS p5) Agricultural deep periphery colony, home of Temper MacCaulay. Came under attack by Tortuga pirates
- Twilight (Jade Falcon sourcebook), a buddhist monk colony two jumps outside of the Oberon Confederation
- Ulro (HB:Steiner p98), CF world
- Urgenj (see Herat)
- [Valhalla VI] (TCI Model Set #1), no info
- Vincent (The Sword and the Dagger p45)
- [Vogon] (Wiege der Basilisken, p. 56) - System in the Lyran Protectorate of Donegal, within one jump from Dukambia towards Mahone. May be fictional with the BT universe.
- Wayside V (Impetus of War, Highlanders sourcebook), planet also known as Wildcat, abandoned Clan (Smoke Jaguar or Nova Cat) depot in the deep periphery, in HPG range (i.e. within 50 lightyears) from Tarnby
- Wildcat (see Wayside V)


Unmapped worlds without a name:

- Unnamed world beyond Antallos/Port Krin, spinward of the Inner Sphere in the Deep Periphery; arrival in orbit 49 days after making inquiries at Port Krin so presumably 2-3 jumps. Germanium deposits make the jungle world very valuable. Was colonized by House Kurita "hundreds of years ago" but repeatedly captured by Davion ("changes hands every few decades"). "Apocalypse Now"ish scenario in First Strike sourcebook hunting for ex-Davion general "The Old Man", unfortunately no dates, names or locations given (AFFC operation so FedCom timeframe). Remote possibility this is Farstar.

- Abandoned world near Antallos/Port Krin, former OA world abandoned "long ago" after repeated FS attacks. Has two moons. Blasted remains of village used as a meeting point by dodgy dealers in 3057. (Royalty & Rogues, p. 16)

- Unnamed world 15 ly coreward from DC cache world Durham, where a fugitive merc unit found a crashed Star League DropShip and recovered a number of BattleMechs. Durham is also within 7 ly from Isfahan, where the raiders set up their base. Since the pirates originally fled from the LC the worlds are presumably coreward of the DC, closer to the LC border.
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« Reply #3 on: 26 January 2011, 06:34:35 »
The Explorer Corps sourcebook has a map on p48 with a large number of minor settlements in the coreward Deep Periphery. However, since they appear for the first time in this book (as far as I am aware) and come with a map showing their exact location I have not included them in the list. Namely, these are:

- Attenbrooks (Diamond Shark orbital fleet base and trading post)
- Bazaar (Diamond Shark surface trading post)
- Cambridge (Cambridge Perimeter Defense Station, Jade Falcon orbital fleet base at nadir jump point)
- Ctesiphon (Nova Cat surface cargo way station)
- Harris (Wolf surface garrison)
- Ghent (Smoke Jaguar garrison)
- Gwithian (occupied colony, Nova Cat garrison)
- Kinbrace (Steel Viper surface cargo station)
- Nouveaux Paris (colony occupied by Smoke Jaguars)
- Ramsey (Steel Viper surface cargo station/garrison)
- Santiago IV (Jade Falcon garrison)
- Salonika (Nova Cat fleet base at nadir jump point)
- St. Jean (reclusive Franciskan monk colony occupied, Jade Falcon surface cargo storage)
- Suda Bay (Smoke Jaguar fleet base at nadir jump point)
- Transfer Facility 4, aka TF4 (Smoke Jaguar surface cargo way station)
- Transfer Station P3 (Wolf cargo way station at zenith jump point)
- Transfer Station P9 (Wolf orbital cargo way station and fleet base)
- Transfer TJ239H2 (orbital Jade Falcon cargo transfer facility)
- Trelleborg (Ghost Bear fleet base at nadir jump point)
- Trinity (Jade Falcon surface garrison and cargo storage facility)
- Wark (Steel Viper garrison)
- Wolf Orbital 82 (Wolf fleet base at zenith jump point)


Generally interesting information:

- The HB:Liao states the CC as of 3025 has 217 systems with an average of two populated worlds in them (426 worlds in the 217 systems); similarly, the Duchy of Fenestere mentioned in HB:Davion (FS?) encompasses 18 planets in (only) 5 systems.

- The HB:Steiner states that the LC spans "over 300 planets" (likely meaning "systems" from the context). It goes on to say that "for every inhabited planet, at least five to ten others are either uninhabited, inhospitable, or with populations too small or private to be recognized".
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« Reply #4 on: 26 January 2011, 08:23:35 »
Some useful comments carried over from the old forum thread:

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One of things I came across while doing my RWR atlas in the Periphery section was that a few of those worlds were renamed. A quick example is The Rack and Pain went by different names during the RWR/SL era. A better example is the world of Winfield now in the Jade Falcon OZ, was originally called Treeline. It changed its name because some important family started some electronics plant there (I think thats what it was). But I had to do some digging online and in sourcebooks to figure out they were the same world, only renamed.

So just a suggestion, a few of these may have merely changed there names, but the reference may hard to find (if any).

Another example I just remembered Carver V changing its name to Liberty.

Quote from: roosterboy
If you compare the 2822 Lyran Commonwealth map with a modern map, you can see that The Rack and Pain used to be called Port Vail and Dijonne, respectively, and were indeed members of the RWR. (And Dijonne was apparently settled some time between 2571 and 2822, since it doesn't appear onn the former map. Which, technically, I guess, means it could have actually been settled after the fall of the RWR.)

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Quote from: silentwarrior
ISP2 p.19
Veil is on the 3067map from my german introductory box set.
If you align this with the map from the House Steiner Handbook (pg 36) it shows the world Veil was once called Oporto.

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Zlatous would be a typo for Zlatousi. It and Kazarka have long appeared on the map, just inside the Combine's border with the Outworlds Alliance.
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So Kazarka is a typo for Kazanka?  (They are in the Tabayama Prefecture btw).
Yeah. The same world shows up on multiple maps spelled either Kazanka or Kazarka.

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Quote from: Jaim_Magnus
If you look at the 3130 map, Kerensky's Vision is in the lower part of the Wolf OZ.  Up and slightly to the right of Arcturus.
It's in the exact location that Qualip occupies on 3SW and earlier maps in HBHS. The Wolves resettled an abandoned/dead world for their new colony.

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I wonder if Tsarina and Tsanna are one and the same.  Over the years there have been quite a few misspellings in the Battletech literature.  Many of these misspellings seem to be in regards to planet names where letters could look as if they could be spelled two different ways.  Take Chamdo/Charndo for instance.  In the original House Liao sourcebook, the planet appears as Chamdo on the map, but on the list of planets it is listed as Charndo.  If you'll notice, "rn" looks a lot like "m."  There was obviously an editorial mistake somewhere along the line that listed this planet as Charndo, as future books seem to only use Chamdo.  I think Tsanna and Tsarina could be another one of these examples.  In my estimation, "nn" could possibly be mistaken for "rin."  Could Tsarina be a misprint that was meant to be Tsanna instead.
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« Reply #5 on: 26 January 2011, 08:32:08 »
Good to see this!

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« Reply #6 on: 26 January 2011, 20:37:12 »
Nice to see this information was saved outside the forum and could be recovered!
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« Reply #7 on: 26 January 2011, 20:46:15 »
Not everything on the old forums is lost between the Google cache and the forum archive.  Where he got this, I don't know.

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« Reply #8 on: 27 January 2011, 03:27:31 »
This is actually dragged back from the grave the forum archives that Deathshadow kindly created. Luckily, no data loss since October.
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« Reply #9 on: 27 January 2011, 15:57:21 »
Trentwash II

"beyond the Elysian Field" -- is the exact quote.

a Rim Worlds colony, founded by Cynthia Amaris.

the Explorer Corps group that re-found this world were attacked by a group of locals with "antique weapons of vintage precision". the Corps group lost 17 out of 20 -- in retaliation, the senior Adept turned the DropShip's weapons on the attackers and the Star League-era city they came from.

heavy paraphrasing of "exerpt from ROM investigation of report by Adept Antonian Nokaj, Explorer Corps Vessel Divine Providence, regarding incident on Trentwash II (Beyond the Elysian Field), November 2973"

ComStar Sourcebook, page 45...


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« Reply #10 on: 28 January 2011, 17:30:41 »
Good find, thanks!  :)
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« Reply #11 on: 28 January 2011, 17:56:22 »
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- Isfahan (Explorer Corps pg100), 7 light-years from Durham; conjectural information places it in the deep periphery coreward of the DC
There's additional information about the world in XTRO: Pirates. It has only one major settlement, Kerman, and by 3067 it is occupied by a lesser pirate king known as Hakim al-Shahab, former member of Vance Rezak's Band of the Damned. It seems he still controlls the world as of 3077.

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« Reply #12 on: 28 January 2011, 18:39:59 »
There's additional information about the world in XTRO: Pirates. It has only one major settlement, Kerman

Info that first showed up in the BattleCorps story "Under the Shadows of the Stars".

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« Reply #13 on: 29 January 2011, 08:17:33 »
Info that first showed up in the BattleCorps story "Under the Shadows of the Stars".
Huh, I didn't know that. Anyway, the more canon sources the better.

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« Reply #14 on: 29 January 2011, 17:34:20 »
You know I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Federated Suns' Arcadia yet.

"Sometimes, it is hard for social historians to judge the causes and effects of change. On Arcadia, another
'garden world' of the Crucis March, peace and prosperity were the watchwords even in the worst years of the Terran retreat from her former colonies. The planet’s plentiful water, extensive agriculture, abundant raw materials, and
booming industrial economy made Arcadia the logical heart of the new Federated Suns
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House Davion Sourcebook PDF, page 22.

The Svendotters were a key family from Arcadia. Paul Davion married Marge Svendotter that produced Simon Davion.

House Davion Sourcebook PDF, page 30.

As for where Arcadia was located, it only appears on the map of the Federated Suns at founding on page 18 in the House Davion Handbook. It's about a jump away from New Avalon.

As for its fate, I have no idea, but since it was so close to New Avalon, it probably got destroyed in the First Succession War. 

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« Reply #15 on: 31 January 2011, 15:52:46 »
there was a suggestion on the crashed boards that Arcadia of the FedSuns might be one of the Hidden.
it seems to be in a good location for that, from what I remember.

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« Reply #16 on: 31 January 2011, 16:07:42 »
It's a jump away from New Avalon, but at the same time, it's a bit of a know commodity. It's not like the Suns is really going to forget the location of one of its leading early member planets.

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« Reply #17 on: 31 January 2011, 16:14:10 »
It's a jump away from New Avalon, but at the same time, it's a bit of a know commodity. It's not like the Suns is really going to forget the location of one of its leading early member planets.

Jardine's location probably wasn't really forgotten.  Digging the data up, on the other hand...

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« Reply #18 on: 02 February 2011, 01:08:29 »
Arcadia is one jump from New Avalon.

Where did the DCMS offensive in 1st Succession War reach? One jump from New Avalon.

draw your own conclusions...

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« Reply #19 on: 02 February 2011, 07:49:50 »
That's a very good point, and it explains it very nicely.

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« Reply #20 on: 02 February 2011, 09:58:40 »
Great to see this very excellent thread back.  Here's a quirky one from the original TR3025 (p. 186):

"John [Cassion] is currently working for the New Battle Creek Defense League on the planet Kearny within the Federated Suns.... His quick action once saved the life of Dr. Banzai of Team Banzai."

There is indeed a Kearny on the maps -- but it's deep in the FWL, not the FS.  I would chalk the "Federated Suns" reference up to a typo, but the reference to Dr. Banzai seems to militate against that.  A quick review revealed no Kearny on the FS historical maps.

While I'm at it, p. 184 also has a reference to the Davion planet of Quinten -- very probably a typo for Quentin, but the references to the cities Troy and Birmingham do not correspond to any known features of Quentin.  (Perhaps it was colonized by Alabamans.)

p. 170 references an attack by Kurita forces on the Davion planet of Hoan III.  Could be a typo for "Hean", which the IS Atlas indicates is the third planet in its system.

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« Reply #21 on: 03 March 2011, 16:44:38 »
Some new additions:

Haddings (the hidden WoB training world from BC story Desperate Measures)

Also from the German-only (and thus apocryphal) novel Die Albatros-Akte:
- El Aïdi and Muscatine, two Lyran colonies in the Protectorate of Donegal that were abandoned in or just prior to 2838
- Kumkol VII, a research station also in the Protectorate of Donegal
- Orathon, an uninhabited system in the Protectorate of Donegal used as a recharging system between Ludwigshafen and Mahone
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« Reply #22 on: 11 July 2011, 08:05:29 »
Thread necromancy, but  think it's better to keep the information in one place...

Rahway II
Davion world, probably near DC border, almost exclusively reserved for 'MechWarrior R&R
Fiction for CityTech (1st Ed.), FASA 1608, page 40
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« Reply #23 on: 12 July 2011, 14:43:54 »
Some new additions:

Haddings (the hidden WoB training world from BC story Desperate Measures)

Also from the German-only (and thus apocryphal) novel Die Albatros-Akte:
- El Aïdi and Muscatine, two Lyran colonies in the Protectorate of Donegal that were abandoned in or just prior to 2838
- Kumkol VII, a research station also in the Protectorate of Donegal
- Orathon, an uninhabited system in the Protectorate of Donegal used as a recharging system between Ludwigshafen and Mahone

Haddings --

was a Lyran/Terran/Lyran world, in/near the Isle of Skye -- in a line roughly between Alioth and Muphrid, and Mizar and Lipton...

in HB: Steiner -- it was on the 2571, 2822, and 2864 maps, disappears by the 3025 map...

still looking for the others, and CVB's addition....

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Re: Unmapped, lost or misnamed planets (last updated 6 September 2011)
« Reply #24 on: 06 September 2011, 06:19:22 »
Time for some updates.
With the publication of Field Report: Periphery, the Wanted list has grown a bit shorter as all Hanseatic League and Nueva Castile/Umayyad worlds are now pegged on an official map.

Also, thanks to The Hawk for adding Hoan III/Hean (have asked Oystein about this), Quinten and Kearny (FS) to the list, and to CVB for Rahway II (don't know how I missed that one - good catch!).
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« Reply #25 on: 23 September 2011, 05:17:26 »
1) We can also list the content of the Chainelaine Isles (I have a hypothesis as to which former RWR worlds may be included in the Isles)
2) Farhome (Periphery 2nd Edition)
3) Etienne's Sanctuary

I now count 3107 named systems, of which 3002 of them show up in maps. gonna be a headache identifying/eliminating the 105.

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« Reply #26 on: 23 September 2011, 07:56:23 »
1) We can also list the content of the Chainelaine Isles (I have a hypothesis as to which former RWR worlds may be included in the Isles)

Er, how can planets the identities of which we can only hypothesize about be listed?

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« Reply #27 on: 23 September 2011, 08:17:41 »
well i overlapped the 2750 RWR map with the deep periphery map from WoR, using the 3067 LC map as anchor and i identified 6 worlds the neatly fell inside the borders of the Isles. In fact two of those 2750 maps appeared to influence the shape of the borders. As i said, it's just a theory based on the methodology above.
As an alternative we can list "Chainelaine Isles" as an entry

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« Reply #28 on: 24 September 2011, 11:28:16 »
well i overlapped the 2750 RWR map with the deep periphery map from WoR, using the 3067 LC map as anchor and i identified 6 worlds the neatly fell inside the borders of the Isles. In fact two of those 2750 maps appeared to influence the shape of the borders. As i said, it's just a theory based on the methodology above.
As an alternative we can list "Chainelaine Isles" as an entry

Hmm.  Well, my view is that they're not "unmapped" or "lost" if they're identifiable, but it's Frabby's list. ;)  I would be interested to know what you found, though.  Going from the Explorer Corps map (don't have WoR yet) I'm guessing Vannes, Fredotto, Syrstart, Far Reach, Paran and Tordenskjold?

(As an aside, apparently I've never looked that closely at this part of the RWR 2750 map.  Paran?  Apsalar?  Seems like somebody was reading The Malazan Book of the Fallen when they put that one together...  ::))

EDIT: Of course, I also just noticed "Malazan" on the Bolan Thumb on the same map, so now I'm even more convinced of that conclusion... ;)
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« Reply #29 on: 24 September 2011, 11:41:58 »
hah right on the money! Those were the six ones that neatly fell in the silhouette of the Isles. I'm guessing some (or all) of them form part of the Isles and then there are some newly discovered worlds that make up the rest. I just can't remember how many worlds there are exactly. I hope we get to see them someday like the Hanseatic League and Nueva Castile/Escorpion Imperio.
It's kinda sad that we don't get to see the Isles and the JarnFolk worlds in the published IS maps despite the proximity. When i overlapped the maps it was possible to show those two factions' borders in the page.

EDIT: HAHA! thanks Oystein for a wish fulfilled! Chainelane Isles finally appear on the full IS map! well, we got 5 of the 6 systems right at least. Now I hope we get to see the JarnFolk on future maps near Alfirk  :)) then one with the Clan Worlds and far periphery systems
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