BattleMech Manual does have quads.
P15 has the lateral shift movement for quads
P19 has standing up for quads
P25 no torso twist for quads...
Etc
Huh. Can't imagine how I missed them. Thanks. :)
this has been coming for a while now
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=60405.msg1389013#msg1389013
Thing is we've had many different flavors of ice cream along with all the toppings for more than 30 years. Why the sudden need to drop all the toppings?
the future hasn't been this bright in twenty-five years
![](http://puu.sh/E1X8L/089a384f52.png)
vehicles are still there. it's not like they're hiding them in a new mexico warehouse that people can't get at.
I hope it is but if so, why the need for kickstarters? Why split the rule book? Why abandon other units? Why start splitting up rule books saying they're too big to publish?
Sure for those that know where to look but will new players know?
Abandonment isn't an issue here. One can still buy TO, SO, CO and IO as well as all the TROs and record sheets as PDFs. What CGL seems not interested to do, is burn money in feeding the older fans the same old rules, fluff and sheets once more.
What they are interested in, how I read it, is giving new players easy access to the core game and its more advance rules in the foreseeable future. And, being honest, I don't see any newbie finding out about and enjoying vees, aero and infantry all by themselves. The material is not at all easily accessible right now. But if a new player gets a grip on the 'Mech rules and then gets into contact with us older players, we are certainly capable to point them into the right direction.
Then why aren't they including the other units in TROs? And where can one buy the core rule books? The store I go to has been reduced their battletech selection drastically. And you don't keep publishing the same edition of the rule books. Not unless there's a great demand for it. You print newer editions with rule changes, updates, and errata in them. This not only gives older players the ability to buy updated rule books but it keeps the rule books in print so that new players can buy them.
Splitting the rule books up just make playing even more difficult since you'd need to find and buy another book.
As for new players not finding out about and enjoying other units on their own, how can they if they're not included? Other units have been a part of the game for more than 30 years and have appeared in nearly every TRO since TRO:3025. Why are they suddenly an obstruction to players being interested, playing, and enjoying the game?
TW is in print. This is a thread about reprinting TO. The idea of a vehicle/infantry/etc “BMM” is one we’ve had since day one, but why does anyone feel like any of that has been abandoned if we still have all the information still available?
Ursus Major is 100% right.
Because TROs are switching to Mech only and the only place one can find vehicles is in Record sheets.
It’s already there. Nothing is being cut. Nothing is being added.
I would hope all the updates and errata would be added.
Ultimately I hope Battletech is doing well and that splitting TO is just a temporary measure to keep things in print while all the Core Rule Books are revised to make them more user friendly and to lay out what the new Tournament Legal is.