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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #30 on: 17 May 2018, 22:50:50 »
the lyrans dictated the weightclass, the mariks provided the main guns, the kurita added support missiles, and the liao.....


the liao laid out how to make it all work while they poached the good engineers for themselves.

i honestly like this 'mech, it works alright as part of a C3 lance- but man, i'd have a hard time making the loadout worse i admit.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #31 on: 18 May 2018, 10:50:58 »
For what was available then . . . for 3145?  Make it a Rifleman clone with HVACs.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #32 on: 19 May 2018, 16:28:21 »
For what was available then . . . for 3145?  Make it a Rifleman clone with HVACs.
the BKW-7R  was 3061, and the BKW-9R showed up in 3070.


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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #33 on: 19 May 2018, 17:16:04 »
For what was available then . . . for 3145?  Make it a Rifleman clone with HVACs.

HVACs are one way you could make this mech worse.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #34 on: 19 May 2018, 18:57:56 »
So an appropriate Dark Age variant would have an HVAC10, Bombast Laser, and maybe an ELRM20?

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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #35 on: 19 May 2018, 22:17:26 »
"But it could hide in its own smoke!"
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #36 on: 21 May 2018, 09:29:57 »
I don't often agree with people who talk about bracket firing, but the Black Watch is one place where I think it really would work well. Replacing the Ultra AC/10 with two Plasma Rifles and ammo keeps the machine in the same range bands as the MRM missile launcher.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #37 on: 22 May 2018, 11:53:39 »
the BKW-7R  was 3061, and the BKW-9R showed up in 3070.

I knopw, I was saying the only way I knew to make it worse required 3145 weapon.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #38 on: 31 May 2018, 21:00:48 »
So an appropriate Dark Age variant would have an HVAC10, Bombast Laser, and maybe an ELRM20?

An appropriate Dark Age variant would have a RAC/5 or keep the UAC/10 in the first place, give the Heavy PPC a Capacitor, and a Streak LRM-20.

I see a decent amount of mentioning the mismatching range bands, but that... doesn't actually seem to be the case here?  Generally when I think "mismatched range bands" I think "overlapping minimum range" or "MLs/SRMs matched with LRMs" where you're punished for entering one group's optimum range by leaving the other's.

Here your objective is to get to exactly 3 hexes range, and then make the guy in front of you wish he'd picked a better place to be that day.  At that point your MRM is at best range, your Light Gauss is one hex inside minimum (coincidentally matching the MRM's modifier), and your UAC/10 is well within optimum range.  That, or you waddle up to about 15 hexes and get a C3 spotter up there to make things more interesting.

The weapons may not all match ranges like an elegantly tuned machine, but they shit out horrific amounts of damage (seriously, it's a 60+ damage heat-neutral alpha strike) and getting them to play nice with each other is not particularly difficult.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #39 on: 01 June 2018, 06:42:33 »
If Ilclan is related or thinks it a descent or successor to the old Star League, then it should have Black Watch IIC for ironic touch.
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Re: Slightly late/Early MOTW - Black Watch
« Reply #40 on: 01 June 2018, 08:31:47 »
If Ilclan is related or thinks it a descent or successor to the old Star League, then it should have Black Watch IIC for ironic touch.
That could actually work. ATMs or Streak LRMs, Gauss and UAC/10 to keep the flavor of the original?

 

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