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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XV: Pitter Patter Let's Get At'er
« Reply #1110 on: 13 May 2020, 07:12:42 »
If my google books thing doesn't MESS up again, i have Divided they Fall on pre-order for me. I will be sad Dragoon will be perma-destroyed and some some element become something else.   I wonder if the stats page will appear in my version of the book.
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« Reply #1111 on: 13 May 2020, 07:15:10 »
I will be sad Dragoon will be perma-destroyed and some some element become something else. 

Who said that's what happens? No one said that's what happens.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XV: Pitter Patter Let's Get At'er
« Reply #1112 on: 13 May 2020, 07:18:18 »
Who said that's what happens? No one said that's what happens.
My assumption since the Dragoons are mercenaries, their profession in a Clan ran organization doesn't seem likely to continue.  Sorry.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XV: Pitter Patter Let's Get At'er
« Reply #1113 on: 13 May 2020, 08:17:45 »
My assumption since the Dragoons are mercenaries, their profession in a Clan ran organization doesn't seem likely to continue.  Sorry.

Alaric still has, last we 'saw,' Solaris operating mostly as it was before . . .
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« Reply #1114 on: 13 May 2020, 11:11:45 »
I know the Combat Manual Series weren’t great sellers.  However, I really enjoyed Combat Manual: Kurita and would love a hard copy of Mercenaries.  I heard whispers that an abridged version of CM: Davion might be released.  Is there any truth to these rumors?

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« Reply #1115 on: 13 May 2020, 11:12:34 »
IlClan era blurb https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=66405.msg1594779#msg1594779
Indicates that mercs are a pretty big deal for now. I'm thinking that instead of IlClan ending with a timejump, the story is gonna continue with a war of consolidation and building the Third League.
What does that mean to the Dragoons? Unknown, but given how they're a fan favorite, it is hard to see them dying out (or if they do that, they do it in a way that leaves a lasting legacy and impact). Now, i'm skeptical of the IlClan, regardless who it is, using mercs, but i can see them incorporating the best into their ranks as elite specialist/troubleshooter units and the like.

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« Reply #1116 on: 13 May 2020, 11:13:05 »
For the shorter stories, the plan is to wait until theres enough to fill a book, then PoD them, right?  Or is it more complicated than that?  I'm assuming you wouldn't want to pair stories from different eras together.


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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XV: Pitter Patter Let's Get At'er
« Reply #1117 on: 13 May 2020, 12:18:47 »
I know the Combat Manual Series weren’t great sellers.  However, I really enjoyed Combat Manual: Kurita and would love a hard copy of Mercenaries.  I heard whispers that an abridged version of CM: Davion might be released.  Is there any truth to these rumors?

1) clarification: they sold like anything else but the high production value made their profit margins much tighter - in essence they had to over-perform to perform adequately
2) i have not heard this rumor - nckestrel (aka Mr. Alpha Strike) has made a series of unofficial CM lite editions (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=63772.0). davion wasn't included in that batch because he wasn't the author. also it would ruin any potential chance (no matter how slim) of an official publication.

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« Reply #1118 on: 13 May 2020, 12:49:04 »
1) clarification: they sold like anything else but the high production value made their profit margins much tighter - in essence they had to over-perform to perform adequately

The art in the book is gorgeous and the color panel in the CM: Mercs cover every paint scheme of 3rd-4th SW era Merc unit I can think of, more than I can recall being in previous Merc books (I mean, who else has included the paint scheme of the Thermo Police? ) and a how too on the Wolf Dragoons paint scheme featured on Camo Specs.

Unfortunately, image/art heavy media have delayed books in the pass. It's painful that the best part of the book may have been what negated it's success.   
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« Reply #1119 on: 13 May 2020, 12:51:09 »
If I could find a reasonable price on a DTF version of CM: Mercs I'd snap it up in a second. 

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« Reply #1120 on: 13 May 2020, 13:06:26 »
Check other game stores . . . I picked it up from mine just b/c I have a lot of the merc materials even if I do not play AS.  It had a few nice bits that impacted some of what I was playing around with in MM- for instance the 3/12 Star Guard hired a guy who . . . won the Noisiel games and got a Marauder 5D as a prize.  Found out the CO runs a Wolverine in the regiment . . . and they had no light mechs!  Shuffled up the TO&E for the Wolf vs Star Guard invasion game on MM.
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« Reply #1121 on: 13 May 2020, 13:13:46 »
I think they should do a re-release of both the mercenary and kurita manual when the lance and star packs drop. You could easy pull some of the GW crowd that uses a codex to build their forces, and then you could gauge if they should be continued.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XV: Pitter Patter Let's Get At'er
« Reply #1122 on: 13 May 2020, 13:20:36 »
For the shorter stories, the plan is to wait until theres enough to fill a book, then PoD them, right?  Or is it more complicated than that?  I'm assuming you wouldn't want to pair stories from different eras together.

It's been done plenty in the past (see: every BattleCorps Anthology).

Fiction and other smaller anthologies (Gray Markets, Slack Tide, Honor Road) will be available in DTF in the near future. There's some new stuff we're trying to get out the door, but the fact that people like dead tree is not lost on anyone. Reminded our fiction lead of it last night, I did.

The art in the book is gorgeous and the color panel in the CM: Mercs cover every paint scheme of 3rd-4th SW era Merc unit I can think of, more than I can recall being in previous Merc books (I mean, who else has included the paint scheme of the Thermo Police? ) and a how too on the Wolf Dragoons paint scheme featured on Camo Specs.

Unfortunately, image/art heavy media have delayed books in the pass. It's painful that the best part of the book may have been what negated it's success.   

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Oh, we're re-legislating Combat Manuals again? Ok. Let me add in a wrinkle to your understanding above.

While it's true that the art costs and associated production costs/time were higher for those books, let us also remember that paying those costs for the CMs allowed other products to benefit from reduced costs. By modeling the new Classics designs the way we did for the CMs, we could then re-use / re-color some of those models for other products.

I'm getting out of my words-boy wheelhouse and into art-stuff, but suffice to say: it's more complicated than "the CMs didn't make money" or "the costs of producing them were too high."

If I could find a reasonable price on a DTF version of CM: Mercs I'd snap it up in a second. 

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« Reply #1123 on: 13 May 2020, 13:30:57 »
Sorry if we are speaking out of ignorant but the official fate of the CM was a little tight lipped for awhile leaving only speculation and rumors.

Thanks for the reminder of PoD is on way :)
   
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« Reply #1124 on: 13 May 2020, 13:34:36 »
I saw that Divided We Fall was listed for pre-order on Google Books. They had posted a preview, including the prelude and opening chapter, which have certainly whetted my appetite. What is rather bizarre is that whenever I check this preview, it seems to change in length! The other night the preview included the last page of the novel which gave a lot more away than I was expecting to see; it just segued from the intro to that last page!

It also had a write-up for the Dominator at the end.

I thought the mech was a bit underwhelming...

Agreed, if I reversered engineered it correctly it has AES on the arms and legs and a not much else going for it, weapons run hot if used together and kind of lacking.

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« Reply #1125 on: 13 May 2020, 13:38:46 »
I find it strange that people cite not playing AS as a justification for not getting the CMs. AS converts to BT quite easily (and vice versa), and there is a great deal of new material in both of the CMs. Seems like a good job of bridging the gap between the oldest material (3025-3030 era) and the Field Manual series (post-Invasion) by slotting in relevant material in the Invasion period specifically. The 20-Year Update didn't have this sort of data. CM:Kurita's Rasalhague section alone is a must-have for games in the Invasion era.

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« Reply #1126 on: 13 May 2020, 14:21:55 »
Anthology called Honor Road?  I take it that possible new one coming out?  ???
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« Reply #1127 on: 13 May 2020, 17:15:27 »
Alaric still has, last we 'saw,' Solaris operating mostly as it was before . . .

That story is forthcoming...

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« Reply #1128 on: 13 May 2020, 18:14:25 »
IlClan era blurb https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=66405.msg1594779#msg1594779
Indicates that mercs are a pretty big deal for now. I'm thinking that instead of IlClan ending with a timejump, the story is gonna continue with a war of consolidation and building the Third League.
What does that mean to the Dragoons? Unknown, but given how they're a fan favorite, it is hard to see them dying out (or if they do that, they do it in a way that leaves a lasting legacy and impact). Now, i'm skeptical of the IlClan, regardless who it is, using mercs, but i can see them incorporating the best into their ranks as elite specialist/troubleshooter units and the like.

I could see the Dragoons, and/or the Warden Wolves, becoming mainline Clan Wolf or IlClan galaxies. It would kept the legacy while getting a bit of faction consolidation, which wouldn't be a terrible thing.

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« Reply #1129 on: 13 May 2020, 20:25:32 »
Figured no one would catch the reference,  but I had to go for it anyway.

That episode of MASH predates most people in this forum.

Not me unfortunately.   :wheelchair:
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« Reply #1130 on: 13 May 2020, 20:50:23 »
That episode of MASH predates most people in this forum.

Not me unfortunately.   :wheelchair:
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« Reply #1131 on: 13 May 2020, 20:52:54 »
That episode of MASH predates most people in this forum.

Not me unfortunately.   :wheelchair:
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« Reply #1132 on: 14 May 2020, 00:08:11 »
I'll be frank... after reading Touring the Stars: Rigil Kentarus.... I honestly wouldn't really call Riken Minor a moon. Honestly it seems more like a binary planet system.

Tidally locked, mars-sized... Riken Minor on its own would most likely count as a planet by pretty much any standard. I would not at all be surprised if they have a barycenter in-between them.

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« Reply #1133 on: 14 May 2020, 02:39:19 »
I could see the Dragoons, and/or the Warden Wolves, becoming mainline Clan Wolf or IlClan galaxies. It would kept the legacy while getting a bit of faction consolidation, which wouldn't be a terrible thing.
Come to think of it...

[Alaric] <seizes Terra>

[Clan Wolf] Yay! Clan Wolf is the ilKhan!
[Clan Wolf-in-Exile] We‘re ilClan, too!
[Wolf's Dragoons] ...and we'll be your ilMercs, because we're Clan Wolf, too!
[Steel Wolves veterans] So are we!
[Wolf Hunters] <wave hands frantically>
[Snord's Irregulars] My wife's ilClan, too! Reporting back from detached duty for ilMercship.
[House Steiner] Given Alaric's maternal heritage, that makes us the ilHouse then. Long live our Third League First Lord ilKhan Alaric Steiner-Ward-Wolf!
[House Davion] <raises hand> *cough cough*
[Malvina] Seeing how my Jade Falcons pwned the Wolves in the Refusal War and absorbed them, that ilClan title totally belongs to the Jade Falcons. And I've got the WarShips and nukes to prove it. Dare me.
[Fidelis] Actually, Clan Smoke Jaguar kinda sorta combat-landed on Terra first with Stone back in the Jihad. You guys are half a century late.
[The Blood/Wolverine Cabal/ComStar/Word of Blake] <snicker>

I think I'm going to like the ilClan era. :)

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« Reply #1134 on: 14 May 2020, 02:41:05 »
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« Reply #1135 on: 14 May 2020, 03:37:29 »
I really want Paul Moon to try to claim ilClanship, just to have Alaric casually shoot him and carry on like nothing happened.
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« Reply #1136 on: 14 May 2020, 03:45:23 »
Come to think of it...

[Alaric] <seizes Terra>

[Clan Wolf] Yay! Clan Wolf is the ilKhan!
[Clan Wolf-in-Exile] We‘re ilClan, too!
[Wolf's Dragoons] ...and we'll be your ilMercs, because we're Clan Wolf, too!
[Steel Wolves veterans] So are we!
[Wolf Hunters] <wave hands frantically>
[Snord's Irregulars] My wife's ilClan, too! Reporting back from detached duty for ilMercship.
[House Steiner] Given Alaric's maternal heritage, that makes us the ilHouse then. Long live our Third League First Lord ilKhan Alaric Steiner-Ward-Wolf!
[House Davion] <raises hand> *cough cough*
[Malvina] Seeing how my Jade Falcons pwned the Wolves in the Refusal War and absorbed them, that ilClan title totally belongs to the Jade Falcons. And I've got the WarShips and nukes to prove it. Dare me.
[Fidelis] Actually, Clan Smoke Jaguar kinda sorta combat-landed on Terra first with Stone back in the Jihad. You guys are half a century late.
[The Blood/Wolverine Cabal/ComStar/Word of Blake] <snicker>

I think I'm going to like the ilClan era. :)

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« Reply #1137 on: 14 May 2020, 05:25:25 »
I really want Paul Moon to try to claim ilClanship, just to have Alaric casually shoot him and carry on like nothing happened.

Easy for Alaric to do, being as Moon's like >130 years old at this point. How an Elemental survived to that age in the first place I'm curious to know. Unless Elementals are really proto-Space Marines...

Of course by then the lore master is a sea fox

 ??? Isn't Roshak an exclusive Jade Falcon heritage?

Granted, Clan Sea Fox may have acquired it by 3250 but is there any hard evidence that they'll be the ilClan?
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« Reply #1138 on: 14 May 2020, 05:56:12 »
Daoshen: We secretly replaced Alaric Steiner-Davion-Ward-Wolf with a clone of Max Liao.  WE are ilClan now!
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« Reply #1139 on: 14 May 2020, 06:38:21 »
Given Sun-Tzu Liao is spawn of House Davion (snickers)  that would put him descendants inline to the throne of the Star League (x3).
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