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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #990 on: 17 June 2018, 23:07:41 »
Catalyst is working on creating new sets of map sheets that WILL be actual purchasable products. Its just the world wide event maps that aren’t planned to be purchasable. There are other maps, beyond what is planned to be in the boxed sets, they they are working on as well. They just weren’t previewing that stuff at Origins. So, you will be able to buy maps, just not necessarily those four. That make you feel any better?
Not really. Yeah, we knew there are gonna be new maps, or at least that has been said but until i see them... well, i'm not gonna get interested or hyped about things that may be eventually.

Those four maps form such a nice looking battlefield as they are. Nice variable terrain, looks like something that might be an actual place. Generic maps lack such... connectedness, theme.
The new box set maps are looking good but man, the event maps look even better, that's the worst thing here.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #991 on: 18 June 2018, 00:12:17 »
I get the maps being a event exclusive; give you a little something special for hosting the event and makes the event it self a little more special.

If I actually had my stuff together, I would see this as a great time to sign up to be a Demo Agent (only have 4 unpainted lance packs and a couple of proxies, wouldn't be the best rep of the game as is)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #992 on: 18 June 2018, 00:18:42 »
Thought the map packs were a poorly selling item?  Does this indicate a change in release philosophy?  I mean . . . I really want some of the variants hinted at in 3145 and I know there are record sheets missing from releases before that product.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #993 on: 18 June 2018, 02:59:10 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #994 on: 18 June 2018, 06:48:19 »
Maps look great, very clear elevation levels.    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #995 on: 18 June 2018, 06:57:49 »
According to Brent, the reason we haven't seen any new product is that they're focusing the entire stable of BT authors/developers on moving the storyline forward via fiction. This means that they've got to focus on that and even the smaller products would be a distraction from that effort. There should be new fiction, in Barnes and Noble at least, sometime next year.
I missed that comment earlier...thanks for relaying this to us, mbear. 

I'm making Upcoming Product speculation.  Please don't pouncing me for thinking this out.
 
From what has been said so far, I do hope CGL clears up when what is being launched. 
What it sounds like...essentially most likely nothing really moving product wise until the storyline moves.

So if the Shatter Fortress manages to come out this year. We won't see anything until it does come out?
I'm not assuming that if we don't see novels, we wont see anything.  Because another year of waiting going break people.

Small products may all on hold, including TROs, XTROs, etc.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #996 on: 18 June 2018, 08:11:24 »
However, Brent did mention that he wants to get the image files for the new maps available as free downloads so people can print them on their own if they want. I didn’t think to ask if that meant just the ones in the new box sets or also the world wide event, or something else. Personally, I think that sounds like a cool idea, and I’m guessing we will have more details at GenCon.
I find myself weirdly intrigued by those maps, too. Personally, I am not much into fancy environments and like wilderness environment best (kudos to the graphic artist), and they look like good playing fields (kudos to the map designer). And if CGL will offer them for free download - way to go CGL!
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Thought the map packs were a poorly selling item?  Does this indicate a change in release philosophy?  I mean . . . I really want some of the variants hinted at in 3145 and I know there are record sheets missing from releases before that product.
Huh? From what I understood, the first two map packs sold very well, and the third had quality issues on the printing side of things. The line then ended because CGL wouldn't be able to get the same product quality out for the same price.
Maybe I got that wrong. No insider knowledge here whatsoever.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #997 on: 18 June 2018, 09:31:21 »
I wouldn't mind to pay for these WWE maps after end of the event. We don't have currently big enough community to successfully run these events but in future I would like to use these maps as they are something very nice and uncommon. PDF version like current MapPacks would be nice.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #998 on: 18 June 2018, 09:32:18 »
Pretty sure that was the comments about the map packs.  I do not quote remember, I know I bought the set that had a base but I have not really used it.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #999 on: 18 June 2018, 10:22:07 »
Ah, sorry I couldn't make it out. Kiddo no. 2 arrived early Tuesday morning, so Origins was a no-go for me obviously. I hope to be there next year, definitely try to connect with me! Always good to meet a forum regular.

Punch-out Mechs are in both. Terrain, I'm not personally sure about. I'll check.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1000 on: 18 June 2018, 11:40:19 »
Wha! I love the map packs! I have all three (and two hard-backed ones from the box set), and have got a lot of use out of them.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1001 on: 18 June 2018, 11:42:59 »
Ah, sorry I couldn't make it out. Kiddo no. 2 arrived early Tuesday morning, so Origins was a no-go for me obviously. I hope to be there next year, definitely try to connect with me! Always good to meet a forum regular.


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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1002 on: 18 June 2018, 18:23:30 »
I glossed over that as well! Congrats Cubby! Can’t think of a better reason to skip a convention.

Couple other random replies:

Brent mentioned in passing that the previous map packs made money. No word if they sold a ton, but what they sold made money. However, they were made by three different printers and quality control wasn’t what they wanted.

The proofs for the two new boxed sets were not empty. They had punch out mechs, punch out terrain, and new rule books inside, I just didn’t have time to photo everything. They are way further along than the mock-up boxes we saw at GenCon last year.

Priority #2 for GenCon appears to be shattered fortress. Beyond that, not sure what will make the cut. The revised Alpha Strike rulebook is possible, but not guaranteed. Same with new map packs and new fiction.

From what I saw, the box sets should be at GenCon. Now, they may be a smaller shipment that gets air-mailed over before the main container gets over here by boat, but I believe they will be ready in August.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1003 on: 18 June 2018, 19:14:42 »
Now, they may be a smaller shipment that gets air-mailed over before the main container gets over here by boat, but I believe they will be ready in August.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1004 on: 18 June 2018, 20:10:42 »
Priority #2 for GenCon appears to be shattered fortress. Beyond that, not sure what will make the cut. The revised Alpha Strike rulebook is possible, but not guaranteed. Same with new map packs and new fiction.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1005 on: 18 June 2018, 22:19:01 »
TW reprint

Was available at Origins, and presumably doesn't bear mentioning as a new release for GenCon. :)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1006 on: 18 June 2018, 22:20:38 »
Ah, sorry I couldn't make it out. Kiddo no. 2 arrived early Tuesday morning, so Origins was a no-go for me obviously. I hope to be there next year, definitely try to connect with me! Always good to meet a forum regular.

Punch-out Mechs are in both. Terrain, I'm not personally sure about. I'll check.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1007 on: 18 June 2018, 22:50:59 »
Was available at Origins, and presumably doesn't bear mentioning as a new release for GenCon. :)

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1008 on: 19 June 2018, 06:07:18 »
Did you ask about what that meant for Ilclan? I'd like to see it at Gencon rather than waiting another year for it...

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1009 on: 19 June 2018, 06:23:21 »
you'd think at this point in my life i could read at an elementary school level

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1010 on: 19 June 2018, 06:59:55 »
Cubby, congratulations on the new...cub? (This is starting to feel recursive. "It's cubs all the way down.")

Cub, Cubby, Cubbbyy. Easy enough, even for a "turtle." :D

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1011 on: 19 June 2018, 08:15:49 »
That's almost a traditional thing! (Remembers Leviathans)
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« Reply #1012 on: 19 June 2018, 08:19:45 »
May they take to the air again some day

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1013 on: 19 June 2018, 09:14:58 »
Did you ask about what that meant for Ilclan? I'd like to see it at Gencon rather than waiting another year for it...

Not that I'll be at Gencon....

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1014 on: 19 June 2018, 11:54:59 »
Huh? From what I understood, the first two map packs sold very well, and the third had quality issues on the printing side of things. The line then ended because CGL wouldn't be able to get the same product quality out for the same price.
Maybe I got that wrong. No insider knowledge here whatsoever.

The HexPack products predate my current level of involvement, but my understanding is that they were a victim of that concept of sales velocity. They may have "sold well," but were expensive to produce and sold too slowly to recoup that cost effectively.

Brent mentioned in passing that the previous map packs made money. No word if they sold a ton, but what they sold made money.

The two concepts aren't mutually exclusive, which is where the confusion usually happens. Things can gross more money than they cost to produce, but move slowly enough to hamper further production, for a net effect of performing poorly. Printing QC, I can't say.

That's almost a traditional thing! (Remembers Leviathans)

As is the annual rush to get things ready for the con. IMHO, makes it very hard to properly tease and hype and market things. The rush means they just sort of <blorp> into existence.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1015 on: 19 June 2018, 11:58:31 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1016 on: 19 June 2018, 11:59:23 »
A baby gitl. How cute she is. So, she is now a Cubbe.tte
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1017 on: 19 June 2018, 12:06:19 »
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« Reply #1018 on: 19 June 2018, 12:09:32 »
What a cute angel .....
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1019 on: 19 June 2018, 12:32:50 »
The best move to bring the Battletech Miniature game back into the minds of people and embrace new players is to wait out until the hype of the computer game has passed by.
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