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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1050 on: 21 June 2018, 16:50:08 »
It won't happen. There is a 0% chance that Catalyst will produce more lance packs.

O?  The other color Beemers have not been that definitive . . .


But I think the Succession Wars Expansion Pack to the GoAC box is a better route.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1051 on: 21 June 2018, 16:52:08 »
O?  The other color Beemers have not been that definitive . . .

As of right now, GreyWolfActual is correct. But never say never.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1052 on: 21 June 2018, 16:52:36 »
It won't happen. There is a 0% chance that Catalyst will produce more lance packs.

I’m concerned people will read this, but hear “CGL will never do plastic Mechs again ever.”

It’s unlikely these Lance Packs will be reprinted exactly as they are.

There are certainly hopes of producing more plastic minis in the future, which depends in part on how well the new box sets do.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1053 on: 21 June 2018, 16:57:05 »
There are certainly hopes of producing more plastic minis in the future, which depends in part on how well the new box sets do.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1054 on: 21 June 2018, 17:01:19 »

There are certainly hopes of producing more plastic minis in the future, which depends in part on how well the new box sets do.
I am hoping for a new "PlasTech" set for the remaining Classics. I vastly prefer metal; however, you take what you can get.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1055 on: 21 June 2018, 17:02:26 »
This is correct.

I’m concerned people will read this, but hear “CGL will never do plastic Mechs again ever.”

It’s unlikely these Lance Packs will be reprinted exactly as they are.

There are certainly hopes of producing more plastic minis in the future, which depends in part on how well the new box sets do.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1056 on: 21 June 2018, 17:06:02 »
BUY, YOU FOOLS

Once they have product, I've got lucre... I fear there will be a blossoming of my military budget  >:D

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1057 on: 21 June 2018, 17:07:07 »
I am hoping for a new "PlasTech" set for the remaining Classics. I vastly prefer metal; however, you take what you can get.

I just can't justify buying more metal miniatures for a long while, but I'll take whatever plastics come my way.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1058 on: 21 June 2018, 17:19:21 »
With the end of the lawsuit in sight I would not be surprised to see either lance packs or a reinforcement set using the Macross derived unseen. Those have always been the most iconic mechs in the franchise and would probably sell better than the new box sets.

Frankly though I would rather see CGL willing to sell individual plastic mechs as well as larger lance packs or company sized boxes. If they have the molds they aren't limited as to what they do with them, or at least they shouldn't be. If they are.. well, that is just their own fault for picking the wrong company to work with.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1059 on: 21 June 2018, 17:19:54 »
I know that Lance packs are a taboo subject but who could get behind the following lance packs?
Recon Lance: Phoenix Hawk, Valkyrie, Stinger Wasp
Pursuit Lance: Ostsol, Ostroc, Ostscout Scorpion
Fire Lance: Longbow, Archer, Crusader, Rifleman
Assault Lance: Marauder II, Goliath, Marauder, Warhammer, 
This with the new box sets I think would sale and you would have all the mechs in plastic! Then Iron Wind Metals could offer variants on the base designs.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1060 on: 21 June 2018, 17:23:17 »
With the end of the lawsuit in sight I would not be surprised to see either lance packs or a reinforcement set using the Macross derived unseen. Those have always been the most iconic mechs in the franchise and would probably sell better than the new box sets.

Frankly though I would rather see CGL willing to sell individual plastic mechs as well as larger lance packs or company sized boxes. If they have the molds they aren't limited as to what they do with them, or at least they shouldn't be. If they are.. well, that is just their own fault for picking the wrong company to work with.

If they can do it while still doing right by IWM, why can't they do something like what Wizkids is doing with their Pathfinder and D&D minis (essentially selling two unpainted-but-primed plastic minis in a blister for $5) or what Reaper does with their Bones (but with a better, paint-tolerant plastic than Bones, please!), as long as it makes financial sense?

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1061 on: 21 June 2018, 17:27:40 »
Have you all seen Steve Jackson Games's new Ogre miniatures? That's the quality (and price point) I want to see. If any of the Catalyst High Poombas want, I can even forward the information on the folks doing the manufacturing for SJ Games.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1062 on: 21 June 2018, 17:32:16 »
If they can do it while still doing right by IWM, why can't they do something like what Wizkids is doing with their Pathfinder and D&D minis (essentially selling two unpainted-but-primed plastic minis in a blister for $5) or what Reaper does with their Bones (but with a better, paint-tolerant plastic than Bones, please!), as long as it makes financial sense?

Wizkids can afford to build up a huge stock of a wide variety of miniatures on the assumption that they'll sell fast enough to make a profit. Catalyst doesn't have the same customer base.

(also, mech miniatures are significantly bigger, so you wouldn't get two in a blister for five dollars).

As for bones but with better plastic? Who can say the better plastics are still affordable at the same price?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1063 on: 21 June 2018, 17:46:42 »
Who can say the better plastics are still affordable at the same price?

*raises hand* I literally just mentioned Steve Jackson's new plastic miniatures. They're a hard PVC that holds super-fine detail. Eyeballing the sprues makes me think that, with a bit of clever mold design, we could get a company of 'Mechs for around $40.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1064 on: 21 June 2018, 18:11:45 »
When it comes to injection molding there are two things to consider. Price of the mold and price of the actual part. The price of the mold can be very expensive while cost per part is VERY low. It should be very easy for CGL to reuse the mold(s) they have to create lance packs with out increasing the cost of said lance packs or needing to invest in new molds.

If I were handling this for CGL I would have wanted to either create several cheap molds that could be mixed and match to a certain product. The overall final price would be higher but would allow for greater flexibility in future product decisions.

While this line of discussion is nice, it is straying from the main topic of the thread so I will leave it at this :P

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1065 on: 21 June 2018, 18:15:44 »
I want some OSTs.  I need them.  For too long, I have been trying to get an Ostroc without paying too much.  NOW IS THE TIME.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1066 on: 21 June 2018, 18:31:57 »
Need some Plastic Clan Mechs.... just saying

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1067 on: 21 June 2018, 18:52:48 »
I know that Lance packs are a taboo subject but who could get behind the following lance packs?
Recon Lance: Phoenix Hawk, Valkyrie, Stinger Wasp
Pursuit Lance: Ostsol, Ostroc, Ostscout Scorpion

Personally, I would change the positions of the Valkyrie and the Ostscout...

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Fire Lance: Longbow, Archer, Crusader, Rifleman
Assault Lance: Marauder II, Goliath, Marauder, Warhammer, 
This with the new box sets I think would sale and you would have all the mechs in plastic! Then Iron Wind Metals could offer variants on the base designs.

While I love me some Marauder II, I think that Assault lance would be better with a BattleMaster instead...

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1068 on: 21 June 2018, 18:56:58 »
While I love me some Marauder II, I think that Assault lance would be better with a BattleMaster instead...

No, drop the Goliath for the BLR.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1069 on: 21 June 2018, 19:36:41 »
Have you all seen Steve Jackson Games's new Ogre miniatures? That's the quality (and price point) I want to see. If any of the Catalyst High Poombas want, I can even forward the information on the folks doing the manufacturing for SJ Games.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1070 on: 21 June 2018, 19:44:12 »
BUY, YOU FOOLS

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1071 on: 21 June 2018, 19:53:11 »
I just can't justify buying more metal miniatures for a long while, but I'll take whatever plastics come my way.
Understandable, especially if you have been in the hobby as long as I suspect you have. I just find metal a better material to work with. Heck, I still buy vinyl records over CDs when I can. But I also understand that I am in the minority. I buy a miniature to paint it as much as to use it on the table.

I never bought the lance packs simply because I didn't need them. I have multiples of many of those 'mechs already. But in this case if we get the other Classics in an expansion set, sign me up. And I imagine that is a logical step CGL had roughly planned if the lawsuit went their way.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1072 on: 21 June 2018, 19:59:21 »
No, drop the Goliath for the BLR.

Drop the Marauder for the Battlemaster, make a Shadowhawk, Wolverine, Griffin, Marauder Battle Lance Pack
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1073 on: 21 June 2018, 20:01:35 »
The good thing about plastic, is if you sell them unassembled with variant parts; you could make a shadow hawk 2K and 2h I’m the same blister, for example.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1075 on: 21 June 2018, 22:03:32 »
Well the reason I went w the selections that I did was because that would give us back the rest of classics but if lance packs are not in the cards how about reinforcements box set with the remaining classics. Maybe the fabled alpha strike box set  ;)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1076 on: 21 June 2018, 22:44:46 »
The Game of Armored Combat (8 'mech) box set includes Alpha Strike materials, if what I heard at Origins was correct. ;)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1077 on: 22 June 2018, 05:45:54 »
Looks like a nice boxed set.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1078 on: 22 June 2018, 09:50:20 »
The Game of Armored Combat (8 'mech) box set includes Alpha Strike materials, if what I heard at Origins was correct. ;)

Basically the standard double sided Alpha Strike cards of the 8 'Mechs.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1079 on: 22 June 2018, 10:56:43 »
I think if the new box set does well, it's be cool to do another expansion box for 4th Succession War: Some new classic mechs, mapsheets, markers and a scenario/background booklet. Provided they've figured out how to make the new box sets economically viable, then expansions should be doable. Also, as an expansion to the box set, sales of one could drive the other. Just a cool idea in my opinion.

 

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