Units that may be involved in IlKhan's Eyes Only

[tassa_kay]

I wouldn't necessarily get my hopes up on that one. The Wolves as a Clan can't afford dissent at this particular juncture in their existence, and I'm sure they're all keenly aware of that fact. Plus it makes sense that they would be all in with Alaric now, given what he just accomplished (conquering Terra) and what he's working to accomplish (recreating the Star League). Not only do they have a seat at that table, they're a part of the ilClan and have helped/are helping to bring all of that about. I don't necessarily see them serving as the voice of dissent anytime soon... I think those voices left with the Dragoons and the Horses.

[BrianDavion]

I wouldn't necessarily get my hopes up on that one. The Wolves as a Clan can't afford dissent at this particular juncture in their existence, and I'm sure they're all keenly aware of that fact. Plus it makes sense that they would be all in with Alaric now, given what he just accomplished (conquering Terra) and what he's working to accomplish (recreating the Star League). Not only do they have a seat at that table, they're a part of the ilClan and have helped/are helping to bring all of that about. I don't necessarily see them serving as the voice of dissent anytime soon... I think those voices left with the Dragoons and the Horses.

one can have disagreement without dissent tassa. the clan has a clan council and discussions and debate on "well what now" could be intreasting if done well.

Battletech doesn't need another capellan confederation, a monolithic block where everyone buys into the exact same views as the leader. One is too many as is.

[tassa_kay]

one can have disagreement without dissent tassa. the clan has a clan council and discussions and debate on "well what now" could be intreasting if done well.

I'm aware of that, Brian, and I stand by what I said. There's no reason to expect any disagreement in the Wolves right now, not while they're basking in the ultimate win. Maybe in the future, if things start going badly, but there's nothing to indicate that this is the case yet.

[Alex Keller]

Let's just say that there's a reason we've consistently rated art below text when discussing issues of canon, and recent examples *gives Legends a side-eye* have not helped.

I'm torn. On one hand, Legends is such a cool concept. But the execution of the first sourcebook was so full of glaring errors that it made me wish they had waited another year or two to get the mechs and art right.

I'm hopeful that the longer wait for IKEO means we'll have less errors

[Rob Bendig]

I'm curious. Is there a list anywhere of the glaring errors in Legends?

[Cannonshop]

which is what I hope IS DONE WITH THE WOLVES IN EXILE.

turning the wolves into a 100% cult of personality around Alaric is a bad idea. the biggest problem the wolves have had since the refusal war is being turned into two clans with shallow personality cults.

Pattern says you're not going to get your wish, Brian.  'Cult of personality' seems to be the central part of victory in Battletech, along with the losers taking stupid pills and drink'n dat Jonestown Style Kool-Aid.

Katherine, Victor, The Master, Hanse Davion, Phelan-whatever-his-name-is-this-week, Vlad Ward, Sunny-boy Liao, etc etc. etc.  the trend is NOT toward effective factions that still contain dissent, disagreement, or opposition views, but toward single-point-of-view monoliths.  (Devlin Stone anyone?)

It strikes me, therefore, that now that theyr'e all one big happy Clan, all those differences will evaporate under the phantasmic Kharizma of Alaric.

I could be wrong, but it's the tendency in the property and one of those 'benchmarkers' along with making most effective leaders a relative of Hans.

[thedancingjoker]

There's no reason to expect any disagreement in the Wolves right now, not while they're basking in the ultimate win. Maybe in the future, if things start going badly, but there's nothing to indicate that this is the case yet.

I agree with this, I just don't want to since Wolf-in-Exile was one of my favorite factions.  It became my favorite faction following the death of Comstar, so I'm feeling a bit cursed here.

[Church14]

I agree with this, I just don't want to since Wolf-in-Exile was one of my favorite factions.  It became my favorite faction following the death of Comstar, so I'm feeling a bit cursed here.

I don’t care in any way about WiE, I still want something of them to survive. Even if it’s just “Alaric stops being wolf khan on paper, Chance becomes Khan, Miriam Shaw becomes saKhan and has some say in clan politics.”

There have been a lot of discussions around the death of RotS (and death of WiE applies here). With what little we’ve heard from Ray and them, my impression is the story group is conscious about fans of factions feeling like they got hung out to dry. There’s a desire that fans have some sort of ‘spiritual successor’ to enjoy.