(New) Clan Smoke Jaguar: Once More With Feeling

[tassa_kay]

I think it's high-time we have a dedicated Jaguar thread in here now that they're back, so here it is!

[Scotty]

I'm excited to see new schemes.  I've got a metric ton of Jags minis painted up and I'm really hoping they're usable as is.

[Sjhernan3060]

I'm excited to see new schemes.  I've got a metric ton of Jags minis painted up and I'm really hoping they're usable as is.

Picts please!

[Sjhernan3060]

As a fan of the cartoonishly evil classic jags and the revamped nu jags I am excited!

[tassa_kay]

I'm excited to see new schemes.  I've got a metric ton of Jags minis painted up and I'm really hoping they're usable as is.

Did you see the GenCon diorama already? I figure you have, but if not, the Jaguar units are gorgeous.

[Shin_Fenris]

I'm excited to see new schemes.  I've got a metric ton of Jags minis painted up and I'm really hoping they're usable as is.

I got a Cluster-ish of Delta-ish Galaxy painted & made a point about them mostly being there for Invasion-era games but then had to add an after-thought thanks to a few books. Glad that they're back into rotation, even if it means I should probably finish painting the last Trinary.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hells yeah! Long years passed with me thinking my favorite Clan was gone forever, but in 2023 here we are. What a world! What a time to be alive.

Having now seen the diorama, it looks like Alpha's scheme is a lock, hopefully Beta and Delta make the transition over as well, though there are a few 2nd line schemes that look like fire too. I will never not love Nu thanks to MechCommander, and the CSO artists have recently given us some updated looks at both command keshiks, Jaguar's Den and Shroud, that look absolutely gorgeous as well.

[Geg]

I really hope this means that we get Warhawks back on the MUL inside the Inner Sphere.

[tassa_kay]

Pfft, forget the Warhawk... let's see some Iron Cheetahs in Jaguar colors!

[Sjhernan3060]

Pfft, forget the Warhawk... let's see some Iron Cheetahs in Jaguar colors!

I am trying to paint some up for my shroud keshik and maybe for the Jaguars heart unit I have been laboring to build for the fall of huntress campaign

[Scotty]

Pfft, forget the Warhawk... let's see some Iron Cheetahs in Jaguar colors!

Iron Cheetahs are Warhawks that are better in literally every way so I am fully behind this.

[Natasha Kerensky]

Picts please!

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Well played, Natasha, well played.

[Death_from_above]

Ah, Wayne Reynolds artwork.. always a pleasure

[Geg]

Iron Cheetahs are Warhawks that are better in literally every way so I am fully behind this.

The Iron Cheetah has an inferior hat!

[ANS Kamas P81]

The Warhawk needs a tassel hanging down from one corner of its top torso so it looks like a proper mortarboard.

[rebs]

Always loved those Clan designs with the protective armored canopy over the cockpit assembly. 

With so many battles observed in Ishiyama and other cave complexes over the years, Spheroid 'mech designers should have thought of that idea long ago independently.

[Scotty]

Given the choice between integral mobile overhead cover and a clear angle to eject I'd definitely rather be able to eject safely.

[Sjhernan3060]

The Iron Cheetah has an inferior hat!

Lol! I can imagine a clan engineer shouting this in the lead up to hands being thrown

[Blkbr2020]

It will be interesting to see how much the New Jags take from lessons learned as the Fidelis and from "the road of pain". At least on the limited information in Surrender your Dreams and Forever Faithful the case system seems less strict. Wonder if they are still exporting computer chips and other high end tech? If my memory serves me that's how the WoB tracked them down and assumed it was Wolverine's at the very end of Forever Faithful.

The Fidelis trained all warriors as infantry first then progressed through armor, mechs etc. In theory combined arms will be more of a focus for them now?

I'm also holding off on painting a bunch of minis in case color schemes or units change (hoping they don't change too much). Still working through the pile of shame so its not a big deal, Horses, Ravens and some mercs to keep me busy.

[Fire Scorpion IIC]

I really hope this means that we get Warhawks back on the MUL inside the Inner Sphere.

Closest (and only) vendor is a very long trip away and is not keen on selling but if Jags bring production specs for Amaroks or Iron Cheetahs to trade they might start feeling more generous

[Scotty]

I would not hold my breath.  The 3250 intros make it very clear that Warhawks "have not been seen on the battlefields of the Inner Sphere since the Jihad".

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I would not hold my breath.  The 3250 intros make it very clear that Warhawks "have not been seen on the battlefields of the Inner Sphere since the Jihad".

That wasn't the 3250 intros, that was the Masakari's write-up in Rec Guide 20.

[CJC070]

I hope we see the new Smoke Jaguars as an elite cluster (maybe reinforced cluster) similar to the Death Commandos.

[Scotty]

That wasn't the 3250 intros, that was the Masakari's write-up in Rec Guide 20.

It was also in the 3250 introduction to TRO Clan Invasion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Closest (and only) vendor is a very long trip away and is not keen on selling but if Jags bring production specs for Amaroks or Iron Cheetahs to trade they might start feeling more generous

Trade, you say? If these Jaguars are true to their style, loyal to the old ways, they'll show up and trade nothing but beatings to reclaim the pride OmniMech of the Clan. 

I hope we see the new Smoke Jaguars as an elite cluster (maybe reinforced cluster) similar to the Death Commandos.

I'm hoping for that myself. They were the hammers of Nicholas' toolkit, I'd like very much to see them return to those roots under Alaric.

[tassa_kay]

It was also in the 3250 introduction to TRO Clan Invasion.

Are those even still canon anymore? Seriously asking.

Trade, you say? If these Jaguars are true to their style, loyal to the old ways, they'll show up and trade nothing but beatings to reclaim the pride OmniMech of the Clan. 

Scotty was right. The Iron Cheetah is better anyway. Out with the old, in with the new.

[Geg]

Are those even still canon anymore? Seriously asking.

Ray has said yes back in either the Empire or the Tamar launch thread.  Though who knows as the game starts to actually get closer to that date.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

It was also in the 3250 introduction to TRO Clan Invasion.

Ah.  Skipped that one due to already having all the year-based TROs.

[rebs]

Given the choice between integral mobile overhead cover and a clear angle to eject I'd definitely rather be able to eject safely.

Planning around losing is a particularly Spheroid mode of thinking to Clanners, so I can see your point.