I do want to post that we did like 3,500 BV2 per player: four players took Assaults (Dire Wolf, two different Awesomes, a Berserker, and an Atlas) one player took a Spider and a Jenner and jacked up their P/G numbers and the like six turns they lasted they couldnt miss and dodged about thirty PPC shots between them.... then the Dire Wolf Ultra AC/20'ed one to the face.