nroe03742 Fleet Composition

[nroe03742]

I have finished working on my Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I and I am actually surprised at how cheap it is. which makes me wonder what is wrong with the cost calculation function. here is the code for the ship

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Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Technology Base: Mixed (Experimental)
Introduced: 3065
Mass: 2,500,000
Battle Value: 146,502
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-F-F
Cost: 26,272,269,120 C-bills

Fuel: 15,000 tons (37,500)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 9
KF Drive Integrity: 48
Heat Sinks: 2000 (4000)
Structural Integrity: 115

Armor
    Nose: 1067
    Fore Sides: 1066/1066
    Aft Sides: 1066/1066
    Aft: 1066

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (Refrigerated) (50000.0 tons)5 Doors   
    Bay 2:  BattleArmor (Clan) (125)2 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (Liquid) (50000.0 tons)5 Doors   
    Bay 4:  Cargo (90000.0 tons)    5 Doors   
    Bay 5:  Small Craft (224)       16 Doors 

Ammunition:
None

Dropship Capacity: 50
Grav Decks: 28 (250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 293
Crew:  210 officers, 910 enlisted/non-rated, 134 gunners, 1870 bay personnel, 1870 passengers, 500 BA marines

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Autonomous Tactical Analysis Computer (ATAC)
    1 Communications Equipment (15 ton)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
    1 Lithium-Fusion Battery
    1 Naval C3
5,750 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                  Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)            Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (300 Heat)
50 Laser AMS          250  15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
50 Micro Pulse Laser  50   15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
FRS/FLS (305 Heat)
51 Laser AMS          255  15(153)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
50 Micro Pulse Laser  50   15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
RBS/LBS (300 Heat)
50 Laser AMS          250  15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
50 Micro Pulse Laser  50   15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
ARS/ALS (300 Heat)
50 Laser AMS          250  15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
50 Micro Pulse Laser  50   15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
Aft (300 Heat)
50 Laser AMS          250  15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
50 Micro Pulse Laser  50   15(150)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense

here is the description of what will be assigned to the ship

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The following operates in Squadrons of 6 craft:

NL-45 Gunboat Escort for a total of 12 squadrons
Wurger Assault Craft Escort for a total of 12 squadrons
Recon Bird MK I for a total of 6 squadron for a total of 6 squadrons
Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter) for a total of 2 squadrons
Gremlin (Boarding Craft) for a total of 2 squadrons

The Small Craft that will be assigned to the Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I are the following:

72 NL-45 Gunboat Escort weighting 200 tons each
72 Wurger Assault Craft Escort weighting 200 tons each
36 Recon Bird MK I weighting 200 tons each
30 Refueling Craft MK I weighting 200 tons each (one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
14 Evac Transports MK II weighting 200 tons each capacity of 275 people

The Drop Ships that will be assigned to the Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I are the following:

2 Mule Class Hospitals weighting 11,200 tons each
2
12 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter) weighting 3,500 tons each
14
12 Gremlin (Boarding Craft) weighting 14,000 tons each
26
4 Elephant Tug MK II weighting 15,000 tons each
30
leaving 20 collars free to use for the rest of the mission important drop ships

The Crew of the Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I breaks down in the following ways before accounting for training:

Base Crew: 560
Gunners: 67
Total Crew: 627
Officers: 105
Bay Personnel: 1870
Passengers: 1870
Marines: 0
BA Marines: 500

The Crew of the Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I breaks down in the following ways after accounting for training:

Base Crew: 1,120
Gunners: 134
Total Crew: 1254
Officers: 210
Bay Personnel: 1870
Passengers: 1870
Marines: 0
BA Marines: 500

The following is how the crew of this class of ship is trained:

When general quarters are sounded the crew that are off shift put on there armored space suits
and head to there stations relieving the crew who are on shift so that they can go and put on their
armored space suits. Once that is completed they report in. once all sections have reported in the air
is sucked out and the ship is a exposed to vacuum. Thus there is no danger of being sucked out into space
because of a hull breach. there is also no danger of a fire starting in the middle of battle. The air is
only pumped in once all sections of the ship have checked for any damage and if there is any in that
section it is kept in vacuum until it is repaired. The crew is drilled in this process relentlessly until
they can put on their suits and be at their stations in under 2 minutes. This is why the crew is twice as
large as it needs to be otherwise.

They train in getting to the closet life boat located to their duty station. Once the life boat is
launched it is picked up by the evac transport and the crew is taken aboard and the life boat
is towed into a stationary orbit of a planet if they are close to one. Otherwise the life boats are
grouped together so that the supplies on board them are easy to get to. That is the training for the
combat stations crewmembers. For the passengers they are trained to put on their armored space suits
and immediately head to the evac transport and wait there until they launch or the all clear is sounded.

all of the files for this ship are attached to this post

[nroe03742]

here is the updated version of my support ship elements for my fleet.

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Support Element Composition
Support Elements per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
1 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
Drop Ships:
2 Outpost (Hospital)
Small Craft:
1000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
44 Evacuation Transport Mk II
2 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I:
2 Mule Class Hospitals
12 Dragau Assault Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
12 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
4 Elephant Tug MK II
NOTE:  This leaves 20 collars free for mission specific Drop Ships per
       Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I:
72 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
72 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
36 Recon Bird MK I
30 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
14 Evac Transports MK II
1 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
Aerospace Fighters:
12 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
12 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
6 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
6 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
6 Recon Bird MK I
7 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
19 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
Aerospace Fighters:
54 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
54 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
12 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
12 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
12 Recon Bird MK I
24 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
33 Evac Transports MK II
3 Rescue Yardship MK II
Small Craft per Rescue Yardship MK II:
6 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
6 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
6 Recon Bird MK I
3 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Small Craft)
6 Evac Transports MK II
40 Salvage Tug MK I
2 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit
Small Craft per HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit:
2 Evac Transport MK II

Support Elements per Mercury:
1 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
Drop Ships:
2 Outpost (Hospital)
Small Craft:
1000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
44 Evacuation Transport Mk II
2 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I:
2 Mule Class Hospitals
12 Dragau Assault Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
12 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
4 Elephant Tug MK II
NOTE:  This leaves 20 collars free for mission specific Drop Ships per
       Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I:
72 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
72 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
36 Recon Bird MK I
30 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
14 Evac Transports MK II
1 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
Aerospace Fighters:
12 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
12 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
6 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
6 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
6 Recon Bird MK I
7 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
19 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
Aerospace Fighters:
54 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
54 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
12 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
12 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
12 Recon Bird MK I
24 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
33 Evac Transports MK II
3 Rescue Yardship MK II
Small Craft per Rescue Yardship MK II:
6 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
6 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
6 Recon Bird MK I
3 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Small Craft)
6 Evac Transports MK II
40 Salvage Tug MK I
2 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit
Small Craft HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit:
2 Evac Transport MK II

Support Elements per Columbia:
1 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
Drop Ships:
2 Outpost (Hospital)
Small Craft:
1000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
44 Evacuation Transport Mk II
2 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I:
2 Mule Class Hospitals
12 Dragau Assault Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
12 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
4 Elephant Tug MK II
NOTE:  This leaves 20 collars free for mission specific Drop Ships per
       Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I:
72 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
72 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
36 Recon Bird MK I
30 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
14 Evac Transports MK II
1 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
Aerospace Fighters:
12 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
12 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
6 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
6 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
6 Recon Bird MK I
7 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
19 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
Drop Ships:
1 Outpost (Hospital)
1 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Small Craft:
5 Evac Transports MK II
1 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
Aerospace Fighters:
54 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
54 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
12 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
12 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
12 Recon Bird MK I
24 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft)
33 Evac Transports MK II
3 Rescue Yardship MK II
Small Craft per Rescue Yardship MK II:
6 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
6 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
6 Recon Bird MK I
3 Refueling Craft MK I
(one per squadron of Small Craft)
6 Evac Transports MK II
40 Salvage Tug MK I
2 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit
Small Craft HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit:
2 Evac Transport MK II

I increased the amount of HPG Relay ships mainly because the plan that I currently have is that one of them will jump into the outermost limit of the com range of the warship flagship of the group it is assigned to and wait to receive the order to transmit to the HPG Relay ship that is with the rest of the fleet that it is ok to jump. which will not be given until the system is secured and operations can commence on the planet or recovery operations can begin in the system.

[nroe03742]

here is the updated version of the total amount of warships in the fleet by group

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Fleet Composition
Flagship = 1 Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Aerospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
150 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
150 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
150 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
150 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 600 Areospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
312 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
312 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
228 Recon Bird MK I
238 Refueling Craft MK I
170 Evacuation Transport Mk II
Total = 1260 Small Craft per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
13 Mule Class Hospital
24 Outpost (Hospital)
26 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter) 
Total = 66 Drop Ships per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Escorts per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
8 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
8 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
4 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
4 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
8 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 36 Escorts per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
2 Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Aerospace Fighters per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
102 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
102 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
102 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 408 Areospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
146 Refueling Craft MK I
106 Evacuation Transport Mk II
Total = 720 Small Craft per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Escorts per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
4 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
54 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 216 Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
114 Refueling Craft MK I
104 Evacuation Transport Mk II 
Total = 686 Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
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[nroe03742]

I did the previous post's math mainly because I am considering designing a three new ships that will stay with the warship part of the fleet but will not be combatants and they will have three versions because of the three different classes of Battle Carriers.

the job of these ships is to be able to take on all of the attached Aerospace Fighters, Small Craft, and Drop Ships that is assigned to the group it is attached to when any ship goes down. thus no one is stranded in case the group has to retreat.

what do you all think of this idea? please tell me if this idea is way off base in this setting

[nroe03742]

here is the only one I will actually make until I get feedback on if I should continue with this line of thought. this ship is designed to handle all of the crew, aerospace fighters, small craft, and drop ships that is assigned to a Columbia class battle carrier mk iv combat group.

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Columbia Evac MK I
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Technology Base: Mixed (Experimental)
Introduced: 3065
Mass: 2,500,000
Battle Value: 119,039
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-F-F
Cost: 2,460,913,120 C-bills

Fuel: 8,000 tons (20,000)
Safe Thrust: 1
Maximum Thrust: 2
Sail Integrity: 9
KF Drive Integrity: 48
Heat Sinks: 2000 (4000)
Structural Integrity: 40

Armor
    Nose: 488
    Fore Sides: 400/400
    Aft Sides: 356/356
    Aft: 224

Cargo
    Bay 1:  BattleArmor (Clan) (125)1 Door   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (216)           12 Doors 
    Bay 3:  Small Craft (712)       16 Doors 
    Bay 4:  Cargo (Refrigerated) (25000.0 tons)2 Doors   
    Bay 5:  Cargo (25000.0 tons)    2 Doors   

Ammunition:
None

Dropship Capacity: 40
Grav Decks: 28 (250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 376
Crew:  292 officers, 838 enlisted/non-rated, 622 gunners, 4742 bay personnel, 130144 passengers, 500 BA marines

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 MASH Core Component
    5 Advanced Robotic Transport System (ARTS)
    1 Autonomous Tactical Analysis Computer (ATAC)
    1 Communications Equipment (15 ton)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
    1 Naval C3
2,000 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                   Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)             Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (1,398 Heat)
233 Laser AMS          1165 70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
233 Micro Pulse Laser  233  70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
FRS/FLS (1,398 Heat)
233 Laser AMS          1165 70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
233 Micro Pulse Laser  233  70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
RBS/LBS (1,398 Heat)
233 Laser AMS          1165 70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
233 Micro Pulse Laser  233  70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
ARS/ALS (1,398 Heat)
233 Laser AMS          1165 70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
233 Micro Pulse Laser  233  70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
Aft (1,398 Heat)
233 Laser AMS          1165 70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
233 Micro Pulse Laser  233  70(699)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense

here is the description of the ship

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The Small Craft that will be assigned to the Columbia Drop Ship Evac MK I are the following:

26 Evac Transports MK II weighting 200 tons each capacity of 275 people

The Crew of the Columbia Drop Ship Evac MK I breaks down in the following ways before accounting for training:

Base Crew: 565
Gunners: 311
Total Crew: 876
Officers: 146
Bay Personnel: 4742
Passengers: 4742
Marines: 0
BA Marines: 500

The Crew of the Columbia Drop Ship Evac MK I breaks down in the following ways after accounting for training:

Base Crew: 1,130
Gunners: 622
Total Crew: 1752
Officers: 292
Bay Personnel: 4742
Passengers: 4742
Marines: 0
BA Marines: 500

Crew of the battle group that will need quarters

1 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV = 3,044
3,044
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II = 2,990
6,034
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II = 5,354
11,388
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II = 5,540
116,928
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II = 3,084
120,012
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II = 1,342
121,354
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II = 1,620
122,974
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II = 2,428
125,402

The following is how the crew of this class of ship is trained:

When general quarters are sounded the crew that are off shift put on there armored space suits
and head to there stations relieving the crew who are on shift so that they can go and put on their
armored space suits. Once that is completed they report in. once all sections have reported in the air
is sucked out and the ship is a exposed to vacuum. Thus there is no danger of being sucked out into space
because of a hull breach. there is also no danger of a fire starting in the middle of battle. The air is
only pumped in once all sections of the ship have checked for any damage and if there is any in that
section it is kept in vacuum until it is repaired. The crew is drilled in this process relentlessly until
they can put on their suits and be at their stations in under 2 minutes. This is why the crew is twice as
large as it needs to be otherwise.

They train in getting to the closet life boat located to their duty station. Once the life boat is
launched it is picked up by the evac transport and the crew is taken aboard and the life boat
is towed into a stationary orbit of a planet if they are close to one. Otherwise the life boats are
grouped together so that the supplies on board them are easy to get to. That is the training for the
combat stations crewmembers. For the passengers they are trained to put on their armored space suits
and immediately head to the evac transport and wait there until they launch or the all clear is sounded.
all three files are attached to this post

[Daryk]

I think there's something wrong with the program you're using to calculate cost... 40 drop collars should drive that up to truly insane levels...

[nroe03742]

I am waiting on the next version of megameklab which is supposed to have that issue fixed. my main concern with this version is if I have put to many Laser AM and Micro-Pulse Lasers on each arc with 233 of each on each arc to give me 699 out of 700 points in each bay. I was wondering what would be a possible more reasonable number of points to use?

[Daryk]

Is the program not charging you for Fire Control tonnage?

[nroe03742]

the current cost break down for the Columbia Evac MK I is attached to this post.

[Daryk]

It's definitely doing something wrong... even assuming its costs for the KF components are correct (and I don't believe they are), that would make the ship over 40,000,000,000, and the total it's giving you is only 2,460,913,120.  StratOps page 158 has the costs.

[Vition2]

It's definitely doing something wrong... even assuming it's costs for the KF components are correct (and I don't believe they are), that would make the ship over 40,000,000,000, and the total it's giving you is only 2,460,913,120.  StratOps page 158 has the costs.

Daryk is correct, it's not calculating correctly.  Here's what the breakdown should look like:

Drive Coil        3,060,000,000
Initiator           225,000,000
Controller           50,000,000
Tankage               2,400,000
Sail                  7,750,000
Charging System       8,500,000
 Total            3,353,650,000

Compact Core with Lithium Fusion
 Battery: multiply total by 15
 Total: 50,304,750,000

So before looking at other equipment, the warship's K-F drive on its own costs more than 50 gigabills.

Looks to me like you should be very wary about the costs of warships in whatever program you are using.

Edit: You mentioned you were using megamek lab, it looks like once the costs hit somewhere close to 85,000,000,000 c-bills it rolls over into negative numbers.  Looks like you might have had this issue before based on some of the bugs issues I see for the program.

[nroe03742]

yes which is why I am waiting to make any other versions of this ship until the next version of megameklab is released because the issue that is causing the cost miscalculation is supposed to be fixed in that version. which is why I am currently focused on other parts of the design like I said before.

I am waiting on the next version of megameklab which is supposed to have that issue fixed. my main concern with this version is if I have put to many Laser AM and Micro-Pulse Lasers on each arc with 233 of each on each arc to give me 699 out of 700 points in each bay. I was wondering what would be a possible more reasonable number of points to use?

[Daryk]

What both of us are basically saying is that you should brace to reduce the number of drop collars and weapons significantly.  StratOps can give you an idea of the reasonable limits.

[Vition2]

Oops, I actually focused on the latter part of that comment when I read it... and should actually answer that question.

1400 damage for each arc of missile defense is massive overkill - at least if you are using the rules as written, without taking fluff into major consideration.  There are no missiles that need more than 10 capital scale damage (or 100 standard scale damage) to defeat, and any AMS will fire at each and every missile coming into their range.  Using the rounding rules, you only need 32 AMS in an arc to defeat any missile in the canon rules - 34 if you are don't want to take advantage of the rounding rules.  This means that it is vastly more effective to mash more and more heat sinks into a ship, than layers and layers of AMS.  Figure out the heat needed to take down the number of missiles you feel is appropriate each turn and calculate your heat sink installation based on that number.

[nroe03742]

I have changed the Columbia Evac MK I weapons loadout. I have removed 133 of both the Laser AMS and Micro-Pulse Laser from all arcs. I have attached to this post the revised files for this ship. the zipped file contains Cost Breakdown, Weight Breakdown, BV Breakdown, and the Spec Breakdown.

[nroe03742]

I have been looking back over the composition of my entire fleet after I finished adding up everything warship and support and I was wondering if I have put to many ships in the fleet. so far I have seven squadrons in the fleet that can operate on there own because I have designed the fleet that way by making sure each squadron also has a support element. each squadron is centered around either a Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV, Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I, or a Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I.

my question to all of you is should I decrease or increase the amount of warships and support ships that each squadron is assigned. if so by how many and of which class should I add.

here is the complete warship totals

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Fleet Warship Totals
1 Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
2 Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
4 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Aerospace Fighters:
570 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
474 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
474 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
762 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
1320 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
1320 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
1020 Recon Bird MK I
990 Refueling Craft MK I
798 Evacuation Transport Mk II
Drop Ships:
67 Mule Class Hospital
96 Outpost (Hospital)
126 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
17 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Escorts:
14 Farragut Battleship's MK II
14 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
32 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
32 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
16 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
16 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
32 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II

here is the amount of warships broken down by squadron

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Fleet Composition
Flagship = 1 Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Aerospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
150 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
150 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
150 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
150 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 600 Areospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
312 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
312 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
228 Recon Bird MK I
238 Refueling Craft MK I
170 Evacuation Transport Mk II
Total = 1260 Small Craft per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
13 Mule Class Hospital
24 Outpost (Hospital)
26 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter) 
Total = 66 Drop Ships per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Escorts per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
8 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
8 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
4 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
4 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
8 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 36 Escorts per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
1 Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Aerospace Fighters per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
102 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
102 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
102 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 408 Areospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
146 Refueling Craft MK I
106 Evacuation Transport Mk II
Total = 720 Small Craft per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Escorts per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
1 Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Aerospace Fighters per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
102 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
102 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
102 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 408 Areospace Fighters per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I
Small Craft per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
146 Refueling Craft MK I
106 Evacuation Transport Mk II
Total = 720 Small Craft per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Drop Ships per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Escorts per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
1 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
54 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 216 Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
114 Refueling Craft MK I
104 Evacuation Transport Mk II 
Total = 686 Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
1 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
54 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 216 Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
114 Refueling Craft MK I
104 Evacuation Transport Mk II 
Total = 686 Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
1 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
54 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 216 Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
114 Refueling Craft MK I
104 Evacuation Transport Mk II 
Total = 686 Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
1 Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
54 Corasir CSR-V14 (C) omni
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni 2
30 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
102 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Total = 216 Aerospace Fighters per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
168 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
168 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
132 Recon Bird MK I
114 Refueling Craft MK I
104 Evacuation Transport Mk II 
Total = 686 Small Craft per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
9 Mule Class Hospital
12 Outpost (Hospital)
3 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
16 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
Total = 40 Drop Ships per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
2 Farragut Battleship's MK II
2 Nightlord Battleship's MK II
4 Victory II Heavy Cruiser's MK II
4 Arrow Missile Destroyer's MK II
2 Carson II Destroyer's MK II
2 Halsey II Destroyer's MK II
4 Buford II Class Corvete's (LF) MK II
Total = 20 Escorts per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV

here is the complete support ship totals

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Support Ship Totals

Aerospace Fighters:
462 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
462 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
1,260 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
1,260 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
756 Recon Bird MK I
696 Refueling Craft MK I
1,187 Evac Transports MK II
840 Salvage Tug MK I
7000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
Drop Ships:
28 Mule Class Hospitals
49 Outpost (Hospital)
203 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
168 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
56 Elephant Tug MK II
7 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
14 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
7 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
7 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
7 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
7 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
7 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
7 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
7 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
21 Rescue Yardship MK II
14 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit

here is the breakdown of support ships per squadron

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Support Element Composition
Support Elements per Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I:
Aerospace Fighters:
66 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
66 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
180 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
180 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
108 Recon Bird MK I
100 Refueling Craft MK I
171 Evac Transports MK II
120 Salvage Tug MK I
1000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
Drop Ships:
4 Mule Class Hospitals
7 Outpost (Hospital)
29 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
24 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
8 Elephant Tug MK II
1 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
2 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
1 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
1 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
3 Rescue Yardship MK II
2 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit

Support Elements per Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I:
Aerospace Fighters:
66 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
66 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
180 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
180 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
108 Recon Bird MK I
100 Refueling Craft MK I
171 Evac Transports MK II
120 Salvage Tug MK I
1000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
Drop Ships:
4 Mule Class Hospitals
7 Outpost (Hospital)
29 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
24 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
8 Elephant Tug MK II
1 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
2 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
1 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
1 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
3 Rescue Yardship MK II
2 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit

Support Elements per Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV:
Aerospace Fighters:
66 Corsair CSR-V14 (C) omni stealth
66 Stuka STU-K5bC Omni
Small Craft:
180 NL-45 Gunboat Escort
180 Wurger Assault Craft Escort
108 Recon Bird MK I
100 Refueling Craft MK I
171 Evac Transports MK II
120 Salvage Tug MK I
1000 BA Marine Boarding Craft MK I
Drop Ships:
4 Mule Class Hospitals
7 Outpost (Hospital)
29 Dragau Assualt Interceptor (Anti-Fighter)
24 Gremlin (Boarding Craft)
8 Elephant Tug MK II
1 Carrack BA Marine Transport (LF)
2 Columbia Drop Ship Carrier MK I
1 MAS Mobile Factory Ship MK II
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Insulated Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Liquid Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Livestock Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Refridgerated Cargo)
1 Tarawa LF Transport (Standard Cargo)
1 Newgrange III Yardship MK II
3 Rescue Yardship MK II
2 HPG Relay Ship (3061) Clan Refit

all of these files are included in this post

[nroe03742]

I have decided it was time to post the designs for all of my ships once again because I have actually gotten someone that is willing to look at my designs and make sure that everything is valid. I have asked him for his help with this because of the problem with megameklab saying things are valid but because of errors in the code things are not completely done.

The designs for all of the ships that are my personal designs are in the first warship folder as are their descriptions. My modified versions of 2ndAcr's designs are stored in the folder Quest modified designs. The warship descriptions for these designs are stored in the warship folder. all of my personal designs as well as my modified versions of 2ndAcr's designs have been exported to both HTML and TEXT and are stored in the relative folder under a subfolder with the appropriate name.

[nroe03742]

I have a question about the grav decks.

Currently I have maxed out the amount of Grav Decks that I can have on all of my ships. The question that I have is if this is a good thing to do or if I should limit how many Grav Decks that I have on each ship. The main reason that I am asking this is because recently I have been watching reruns of Babylon 5 and I realized that the Grav Decks probably affect how a ship will handle in combat. Please advise

[Hairbear541]

grav decks are supposed be shut down during maneuvering , ie not running .

[nroe03742]

I have received some feedback on my designs from my beta and I have implemented the appropriate changes throughout the following designs:

Columbia Class Battle Carrier MK IV
Mercury Class Battle Carrier MK I
Nova Class Battle Carrier MK I

the changes are mainly less cargo because it was more than the ship could handle when the weight was calculated, when I made that change I also noticed that I had not doubled the amount of passengers that the ship could handle when I doubled the ship bay personnel so I made that change to bring that area in line with my stated training for each ship.

[nroe03742]

I have finished making following changes to my designs at least as far as the actual warships go tomorrow I will start on the support ships. the changes are mainly less cargo because it was more than the ship could handle when the weight was calculated, when I made that change I also noticed that I had not doubled the amount of passengers that the ship could handle when I doubled the ship bay personnel so I made that change to bring that area in line with my stated training for each ship.

[DOC_Agren]

Hospital Ships, I have to ask why are you bringing that many?
I can see 1 or 2 per task force but not each warship

[nroe03742]

the main reason is that instead of having dedicated hospital space onboard ship they only have triage areas and the injured are sent to the hospital ships as soon as possible thus each ship is assigned a dedicated one which depends on the size of the ship which one they get.

[nroe03742]

I have been reading some fanfiction about nbsg that is set at the time of the fall of the twelve colonies and how a fleet of survivors set themselves in order and they talk about the people working for 4 hours on and 4 off and so on. which got me to wondering how is the crew requirements set for the ships in megameklab? the reason I ask this is even though I have doubled the size of the crew on all of the designs that I have modified I am trying to figure out how that would work shift wise. for example is it 12 hours on and 12 off with two shifts worth of crew included or is it something else. any help would be appreciated.

[Daryk]

I usually assume a three section rotation, and 8-hour watches make the most sense with that.  Ship crews are assumed to do all required maintenance, so they should have enough time for that on top of standing watch.

[truetanker]

Also if it isn't broke, why fix it.

TT

[nroe03742]

while reading the Quest fanfiction on this site I noticed that the Heavy NPPC's are the weapon system that gives the most bang for the buck. so I was wondering if I should change the weapon loadout on my ships for an idea on what I mean here is the updated version of my Columbia class battle carrier

Columbia Battle Carrier MK V
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Technology Base: Mixed (Advanced)
Introduced: 3065
Mass: 2,500,000
Battle Value: 322,524
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-F-F
Cost: 35,612,016,000 C-bills

Fuel: 15,000 tons (37,500)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 9
KF Drive Integrity: 48
Heat Sinks: 6000 (12000)
Structural Integrity: 150

Armor
    Nose: 1390
    Fore Sides: 1390/1390
    Aft Sides: 1390/1390
    Aft: 1390

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Fighter (114)           6 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (102)           6 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (70000.0 tons)    3 Doors   
    Bay 4:  Small Craft (173)       18 Doors 

Ammunition:
    1,920 rounds of SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable ammunition (8 tons),
    1,920 rounds of LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable ammunition (8 tons),
    1,920 rounds of Streak SRM 6 ammunition (8 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 2
Grav Decks: 10 (250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 327
Crew:  246 officers, 884 enlisted/non-rated, 336 gunners, 1297 bay personnel, 2594 passengers, 500 BA marines      

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 MASH Core Component
    4 Advanced Robotic Transport System (ARTS)
    1 Autonomous Tactical Analysis Computer (ATAC)
    1 Communications Equipment (15 ton)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
    1 Lithium-Fusion Battery
   7,500 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                             Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                       Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (2,092 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Medium)                             540  36(360) 36(360) 36(360) 36(360)  Capital PPC
FRS/FLS (2,092 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Medium)                             540  36(360) 36(360) 36(360) 36(360)  Capital PPC
RBS/LBS (2,092 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Medium)                             540  36(360) 36(360) 36(360) 36(360)  Capital PPC
ARS/ALS (2,092 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Medium)                             540  36(360) 36(360) 36(360) 36(360)  Capital PPC
Aft (2,092 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Medium)                             540  36(360) 36(360) 36(360) 36(360)  Capital PPC
   

[nroe03742]

I have recently taken my design for the Nova Battle Carrier and made it a battleship

I am working on formatting the file for the stats and will post the corrected version tomorrow but for now here is everything I have for this new battleship

[nroe03742]

here are the stats for my nova class battleship mk I

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Nova Class Battleship MK I

Mass: 2,500,000 tons

Technology Base: Clan (Advanced)

Introduced: 3066

Mass: 2,500,000

Battle Value: 359,619

Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-F-F

Cost: 36,000,248,000 C-bills



Fuel: 15,000 tons (37,500)

Safe Thrust: 3

Maximum Thrust: 5

Sail Integrity: 9

KF Drive Integrity: 48

Heat Sinks: 10000 (20000)

Structural Integrity: 150



Armor
   
Nose: 1390
   
Fore Sides: 1390/1390
   
Aft Sides: 1390/1390
   
Aft: 1390



Cargo
   
Bay 1:  Small Craft (77)        30 Doors 
   
Bay 2:  Cargo (55000.0 tons)    3 Doors   



Ammunition:
   
80 rounds of AR10 Killer Whale ammunition (400 tons),
   
80 rounds of AR10 Barracuda ammunition (240 tons),
   
80 rounds of AR10 White Shark ammunition (320 tons),
   
1,920 rounds of SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable ammunition (8 tons),
   
1,920 rounds of LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable ammunition (8 tons),
   
1,920 rounds of Streak SRM 6 ammunition (8 tons)



Dropship Capacity: 2

Grav Decks: 10 (250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m, 250 m)

Escape Pods: 0

Life Boats: 332

Crew:  228 officers, 892 enlisted/non-rated, 368 gunners, 385 bay personnel, 770 passengers, 500 BA marines


Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    2 Advanced Robotic Transport System (ARTS)
    1 Autonomous Tactical Analysis Computer (ATAC)
    1 Communications Equipment (15 ton)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
    1 Lithium-Fusion Battery
7,500 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                             Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                       Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (2,492 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)       40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC

FRS/FLS (2,492 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)       40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC 

RBS/LBS (2,492 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)       40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC

ARS/ALS (2,492 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)       40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC

Aft (2,492 Heat)
30 Laser AMS                                     150  9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
30 Micro Pulse Laser                             30   9(90)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
8 ER Large Laser                                 240  21(208) 21(208) 8(80)    8(80)   Laser       
    8 Heavy Large Laser
8 ER PPC                                         120  12(120) 12(120) 12(120)   0(0)   PPC         
8 LRM 20+Artemis IV                              48   10(96)  10(96)  10(96)    0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (1440 shots)
8 SRM 6+Artemis IV                               64   16(160) 10(96)   0(0)     0(0)   SRM         
    8 Streak SRM 6+Artemis IV
    Streak SRM 6 Ammo (3600 shots)
    SRM 6 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo (3600 shots)
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)       40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                              900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC

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[nroe03742]

I am looking for some opinions on my designs for the Columbia, mercury, and nova class battle carriers. I have recently learned that 12 laser ams systems is enough to take out both versions of the killer whale missile and any other missiles that are launched with it so long as I have enough heatsinks. my question is this I currently have 30 clan laser ams systems in every arc, should I decrease this to 15 or 12 or leave it alone?