Author Topic: Any More New Artwork Incoming? (Read 5680 times)

MarauderD · « **on:** 12 October 2018, 11:49:41 »

Our new art director, Anthony Scroggins, has remade many of the classics, some of which were included in Combat Manuals Mercs and Kurita, and the First and Second Succession Wars Sourcebooks.

I was wondering if there were any plans for Mr. Scroggins to continue his work reissuing classic mechs, like the Crusader, Ostsol, Ostroc, and perhaps the Quickdraw?

Best Regards,

Mad

Alex Keller · « **Reply #1 on:** 12 October 2018, 11:56:57 »

There's been little movement with this game for nearly half a decade. I think we should be patient and wait to see if Catalyst is successful with the new box sets before they start doing anything else. If Catalyst can manage this and it turns into a success, I believe we would start to see some new artwork for old designs.

Wrangler · « **Reply #2 on:** 12 October 2018, 12:27:14 »

Only new art work was in Shattered Fortress, Combat Manuals, and of course the Succession Wars books.

There been steady stream of fan-funded art for Battletech for the CGL artists keep busy. I still weep a little at that , since their not canon.

SteelRaven · « **Reply #3 on:** 12 October 2018, 19:38:09 »

Prior year was rough for CGL and all the current attentions seems to be focus on finally finishing Il Clan and getting the new Boxes of the boat and on the selves.

DarkISI · « **Reply #4 on:** 13 October 2018, 01:09:54 »

Quote from: SteelRaven on 12 October 2018, 19:38:09

Prior year was rough for CGL and all the current attentions seems to be focus on finally finishing Il Clan and getting the new Boxes of the boat and on the selves.

And TRO Golden Century (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62724.0), which contains never seen before designs, which probably means new artwork. And other projects I'm not allowed to talk about.
CGL is working on more than just ilClan and the boxed sets, but they have taken up a lot of attention, yes. They are not all, though. Things are moving.

SteelRaven · « **Reply #5 on:** 13 October 2018, 13:01:22 »

I honestly forgot TRO:GC was back on the upcoming releases list :)

Empyrus · « **Reply #6 on:** 13 October 2018, 13:21:01 »

Quote from: SteelRaven on 13 October 2018, 13:01:22

I honestly forgot TRO:GC was back on the upcoming releases list :)

It isn't listed there, unless the page just hasn't been updated. TRO: Clan Invasion is though, but that is separate from TRO: Golden Century.
Though it seems TRO: GC is probably next year, so it isn't like it needs to be on coming releases page right now.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 October 2018, 18:57:33 »

Quote from: MarauderD on 12 October 2018, 11:49:41

Our new art director, Anthony Scroggins, has remade many of the classics, some of which were included in Combat Manuals Mercs and Kurita, and the First and Second Succession Wars Sourcebooks.

I was wondering if there were any plans for Mr. Scroggins to continue his work reissuing classic mechs, like the Crusader, Ostsol, Ostroc, and perhaps the Quickdraw?

Best Regards,

Mad

Crusader might be possible, as it is an Unseen that hasn't gotten new art yet. Ost series is not unseen so probably wouldn't get new art. same for the quickdraw.

personally i would like to see the non-Mk.1 version LAM's get new art that fits the fluff that they were meant to resemble the standard P-hawk, Wasp, and Stinger mechs.. so basically, new art where they resemble the Classics renditions while in mech mode.

Pat Payne · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 October 2018, 12:21:14 »

Quote from: DarkISI on 13 October 2018, 01:09:54

...means new artwork. And other projects I'm not allowed to talk about.

We shall see about that... Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR! Now -- you will stay in the Comfy Chair until lunch time, with only a cup of coffee at eleven.

(Cardinal Biggles, is that really all it is?)

Quote

CGL is working on more than just ilClan and the boxed sets, but they have taken up a lot of attention, yes. They are not all, though. Things are moving.

Good to hear! :thumbsup:

DarkISI · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 October 2018, 07:39:26 »

Quote from: Pat Payne on 15 October 2018, 12:21:14

Good to hear! :thumbsup:

Did you really think they were doing nothing else? You always have to start working on the next products, before the current one is released. Otherwise you have huge waiting times between products.

Sartris · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 October 2018, 07:55:32 »

Quote from: DarkISI on 16 October 2018, 07:39:26

Did you really think they were doing nothing else?

Fortnite tournaments

DarkISI · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 October 2018, 08:07:19 »

Quote from: Sartris on 16 October 2018, 07:55:32

Fortnite tournaments

I am happy to announce that the CGL writer team is currently ranked 3150th on the world wide ranking.

Rainbow 6 · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 October 2018, 14:25:42 »

Quote from: DarkISI on 16 October 2018, 07:39:26

Otherwise you have huge waiting times between products.

Er...... ::)

Empyrus · « **Reply #13 on:** 16 October 2018, 14:26:27 »

I think the implication is "huger".

truetanker · « **Reply #14 on:** 16 October 2018, 23:07:26 »

What is a longer wait?

Like waiting in line at a local coffee house for hours and all you wanted was a cup of water!

On a hot day even.

:)

TT

DarkISI · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 October 2018, 01:28:40 »

Quote from: Empyrus on 16 October 2018, 14:26:27

I think the implication is "huger".

No. You guys confuse the phase were we didn't have an LD and how things worked back when we had one. The new LD and ALD and putting their ducks in a row and are, once again, planing ahead, which means have multiple products in the works to create a regular production flow. Between LDs that wasn't the case, at least not in a regular fashion and when a new LD starts, he has to take a look at things and start the process anew to fit his plans for the universe. So the first phase of a new LD is not sudden product influx, but a restart of the production process, which takes time but will pay off in the end with a regular (more or less, there are always hiccups) product release.

nckestrel · « **Reply #16 on:** 17 October 2018, 07:39:25 »

Assuming the goal isn’t less product. D&D took a less is more approach with 5th edition and it worked well for them.
I have no idea if that’s a goal for BattleTech right now. It certainly has been, so far, to focus on some core needs rather than smaller, niche, products even if it means less releases. But I don’t know if that’s an overall goal or just a by-product so far of restarting the production process like DarkIsi says.
There are certainly plenty of products being worked on, so my guess would be more of settling in on the process but I’m not sure if/how/when that might mean a more regular release
Schedule.

Alex Keller · « **Reply #17 on:** 17 October 2018, 08:24:19 »

Quote from: DarkISI on 17 October 2018, 01:28:40

No. You guys confuse the phase were we didn't have an LD and how things worked back when we had one. The new LD and ALD and putting their ducks in a row and are, once again, planing ahead, which means have multiple products in the works to create a regular production flow. Between LDs that wasn't the case, at least not in a regular fashion and when a new LD starts, he has to take a look at things and start the process anew to fit his plans for the universe. So the first phase of a new LD is not sudden product influx, but a restart of the production process, which takes time but will pay off in the end with a regular (more or less, there are always hiccups) product release.

I thought we've had a new LD for well over a year now? ???

Adrian Gideon · « **Reply #18 on:** 17 October 2018, 15:19:54 »

Quote from: MarauderD on 12 October 2018, 11:49:41

Our new art director, Anthony Scroggins, has remade many of the classics, some of which were included in Combat Manuals Mercs and Kurita, and the First and Second Succession Wars Sourcebooks.

I was wondering if there were any plans for Mr. Scroggins to continue his work reissuing classic mechs, like the Crusader, Ostsol, Ostroc, and perhaps the Quickdraw?

Best Regards,

Mad

Yes, new artwork will be the trend.

MarauderD · « **Reply #19 on:** 17 October 2018, 15:27:03 »

Quote from: Adrian Gideon on 17 October 2018, 15:19:54

Yes, new artwork will be the trend.

Thank you for the response! That is fantastic news indeed!

Seeing more new artwork with ACS underneath it makes me happy.

Best,

Mad

Empyrus · « **Reply #20 on:** 17 October 2018, 15:58:34 »

Wait, trend for the classics, or basically anything that may need new art?
Wondering because i'd rather not read too much into that statement.

Adrian Gideon · « **Reply #21 on:** 17 October 2018, 17:59:24 »

I don’t understand the two options in your question.

truetanker · « **Reply #22 on:** 17 October 2018, 18:01:59 »

Rehash of the classics or brand new 3150+ pics of new stuff.

I'd throw in re-makes of Aero including WS, JS and DS.

TT

Scotty · « **Reply #23 on:** 17 October 2018, 18:19:13 »

Quote from: Adrian Gideon on 17 October 2018, 17:59:24

I don’t understand the two options in your question.

He's attempting to clarify whether the goal is only focusing on presenting new Classics designs, or if the focus on art includes new versions of other, non-Classics units.

Empyrus · « **Reply #24 on:** 17 October 2018, 18:40:38 »

Quote from: Scotty on 17 October 2018, 18:19:13

He's attempting to clarify whether the goal is only focusing on presenting new Classics designs, or if the focus on art includes new versions of other, non-Classics units.

Yes, this is what i meant.

I could've been more clear to be sure.

I wonder because the previous stance seemed to be "classics only, then we might see about other stuff but we don't promise anything at all and people shouldn't expect anything".

DarkISI · « **Reply #25 on:** 18 October 2018, 00:16:59 »

Quote from: Alex Keller on 17 October 2018, 08:24:19

I thought we've had a new LD for well over a year now? ???

And that is why you see new products coming out and why we are working on multiple other products in the background that will be released later.
But producing a new product isn't something that is done in a week or a month. Writers need time, otherwise they produce crap. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
Artists need time to draw, otherwise they produce crap.
Editing takes time. Otherwise the editors produce crap.
Layout takes time. Otherwise ...
You see where this is going. Every step in product development takes time. Even more so, if you have a universe filled with as many background information as BT. You cannot snap your fingers and make a finished product appear out of thin air.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #26 on:** 18 October 2018, 05:06:24 »

I'm very glad things are moving forward. To me it seemed like it all grinded to a halt.

phoenixalpha · « **Reply #27 on:** 18 October 2018, 07:40:38 »

Quote from: DarkISI on 18 October 2018, 00:16:59

Artists need time to draw, otherwise they produce crap.
Editing takes time. Otherwise the editors produce crap.
Layout takes time. Otherwise ...

I like the cut of your jib there... as everyone knows that layout designers never produce crap and I'm glad to see you admitting it. It's always the fault of the artists or writers not being on point with their own stuff and all these changes... sigh....

Cache · « **Reply #28 on:** 18 October 2018, 08:19:13 »

Quote from: phoenixalpha on 18 October 2018, 07:40:38

I like the cut of your jib there... as everyone knows that layout designers never produce crap and I'm glad to see you admitting it. It's always the fault of the artists or writers not being on point with their own stuff and all these changes... sigh....

I feel like you missed the rest of the post after what you quoted. It seemed to encompass every stage in development, not single out a few.

(I could be misinterpreting your "sigh".)

Adrian Gideon · « **Reply #29 on:** 18 October 2018, 09:13:19 »

I believe he’s a fellow layout designer, and lamenting how little respect/appreciating/understanding there is for what we do by the other people in the process. Like how long it takes, especially dependent on what we’re given to work with, and the amount of editing post-layout to the material that some people think is acceptable.

Just recently I was given something, *no* notice, in the evening, to go out that evening, with the understanding that all that was required was, I’m quoting, “put a bow on it.” I declined and it was given to a colleague. Nearly a week later it’s still being worked on, changes and new material is still coming in, and every day is ‘for real the last day it absolutely most go.’ Heh.