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Re: TechManual - 6 June 2016 (v3.1)
« Reply #30 on: 21 October 2017, 08:34:27 »
TechManual print copy 2007 & PDF Corrected 3rd Printing Errata Clan W & E Table

I believe there is minor entry that was missed in the TechManual (Version 3.1) errata as of 6 June, 2016.

Classic BattleTech TechManual Print Edition
©2007 The Topps Company, Inc.
2nd Printing
Published by Catalyst Game Labs

Classic BattleTech TechManual PDF
©2007-2013 The Topps Company, Inc.
Corrected Third Printing Published by Catalyst Game Labs

Clan Weapons and Heavy Equipment Table (p. 343)

Under Plasma Cannon change Ref from 234 to 235
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BT TechManual PDF CAT 35002 2007-2013 The Topps Company, Inc. Corrected Third Printing Published by Catalyst Game Lab

Conventional Infantry Weapons Table (Cont) p. 351 lists the Laser (Hellbore Assault) (Damage Type) as (B).  The (Damage Type) designation (B) per TM p. 148 is Ballistic Weapons. The Convention Infantry Weapons Table entries for other Laser weapons on pp. 349-350 has the (Damage Type) as (E) for per TM p. 148 is for Energy Weapons. Based on the information the information appears to be errata.

Recommended change:

Conventional Infantry Weapons (Cont) (p. 351) under Laser (Hellbore Assault): change the (Damage Type) value from (B) to (E).

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Re: TechManual - 6 June 2016 (v3.1)
« Reply #32 on: 01 November 2017, 11:20:38 »
BT TechManual PDF CAT 35002 2007-2013 The Topps Company, Inc. Corrected Third Printing Published by Catalyst Game Lab

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table p. 319 fourth column under Weapons has the entry of Particle Cannon (Support)*.

There is no information associated with the asterisk (*) on the right side of Particle Cannon (support) entry.

BT TechManual CAT 35002 2007 The Topps Company, Inc. Published by Catalyst Game Lab

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table p. 319 in the third column under Weapons has the entry of in the first colunm of Archaic Weapons* and Particle Cannon (Support) and under the last entry has "*Not included in calculating Anti-Mech BV".

The above information appears to apply only to Archaic Weapons.

Recommended change:

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table  (p. 409 fourth column) change Particle Cannon (Support)* to Particle Cannon (Support).

Update 11/01/2017 3:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time:

My apologies for suggesting that the asterisk (*) next to the Particle Cannon (Support)* be deleted. I confused myself after digging through the all the books and errata I have. The Particle Cannon (Support) is not part of an Anti-Mech attack based on the information provided on p. 220 or Total Warfare.

Recommended change:

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table  (p. 409 fourth column) under column 4 add the entry "*Not included in calculating Anti-Mech BV".

Again my apologies for the error.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #33 on: 09 December 2017, 03:57:16 »
Version 3.0 is out, containing the errata that will appear in the upcoming third printing of TM.  If you don't have the second printing of TM, you should keep your old TO errata document, as this new document just lists every correction that is being made from the second to the third printing ONLY.

Yes, the previous version was 3.1, and this version is 3.0: what happened?  The last release of TM was a PDF-only release.  I try to have these errata documents line up with the physical printings whenever possible.  As the book is at last getting a new printing, I'm changing the version number so that people using the document know that it lines up with the new printing.

No major changes in this new release, compared to the last one anyways.
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Re: TechManual - 6 June 2016 (v3.1)
« Reply #34 on: 15 December 2017, 11:21:54 »
Tech Manual Infantry Tables v3.0, page 2:

The "Rifle (Federated-Barrett M42-B)" is listed as having the "B" (Heavy Burst) special ability, uniquely among Standard Weapons.  Per AToW (page 266), in "Standard" mode, the M42-B has a 10 round burst, while in Light Machine Gun mode it has a 15 round burst (page 273).  Was the intent to allow a platoon to be equipped with heavy burst weapons as standard weapons?  The ammunition entry implies the listed damage (1.02, a value I have been unable to derive with the AToW Companion page 170 formula) is for the Standard (10 shot burst) mode.  For reference, the machine gun mode doesn't have the compact grenade launcher of the standard or close in modes.

Recommended change: Remove the "B" from the Federated-Barrett M42-B listing under standard weapons.  Consider adding an M42-B entry with the "B" special ability under support weapons.  Per AToW, it takes two complex actions (i.e., one full TW turn) to switch weapon modes.
After more than a year, I finally found the criteria for assigning the "Heavy Burst" special to infantry weapons on page 171 of the AToW Companion.  The requirements are a minimum burst of 15, and minimum PFxBD of 20.  The M42-B in standard weapon mode fails the first criteria (since it only has a burst of 10), so my original recommendation above still stands.

The more important thing about these criteria is that the basic Auto-Rifle meets both (it has a burst of 15, and PFxBD of 26).  This implies that basic Rifle Platoons should have the Heavy Burst special (-1 to hit at 0 hex range, and extra 1d6 damage against infantry).  As this is clearly an unintended consequence, recommend changing the second criteria to "minimum PFxBD of 30".  I'll cross-post this aspect to the AToW Companion errata thread as well.
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TechManual - "New Cover" wrong
« Reply #35 on: 19 July 2018, 07:54:40 »
Before sending latest version to the printer!

ATM's Aero damage values are still wrong in the "new cover" version downloaded 7/19/18 (they benefit from Artemis IV automatically).

pg. 346:

Column: "Damage Std. (Aero)"
ATM 6 is "2/Msl ( 8 )" should be "2/Msl (10)"
ATM 9 is "2/Msl (10)" should be "2/Msl (14)"
ATM 12 is "2/Msl (16)" should be "2/Msl (20)"

See New cover Total Warfare pg. 307 "Aero Attack Value" column for confirmation.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #36 on: 19 November 2018, 02:08:58 »
I've updated the TechManual errata to official status by uploading it to the main website.  While I was at it I added back in all the old errata, so it's complete like all the other core book errata documents.  No new material has been added.  Sorry it took 11 months, but as I've said, I'm not really doing errata anymore (well, at least not to the same degree).

I've also updated the infantry weapons and Battle Value PDFs there, so that they're fully in sync with the comparable sections as found in the new TM re-release.  For both it's just a couple of small errata fixes.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #37 on: 20 November 2018, 18:29:00 »
The M42B still has the Heavy Burst special listed with it's "Standard" version as I previously reported.  Similarly, the Heavy Auto Grenade Launcher still has its ammunition problem (also previously reported).

EDIT: I just noticed the Infantry Tables errata on the main page is still dated December 2017.  Did you mean you only updated the main one?
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #38 on: 20 November 2018, 19:13:45 »
The tables are only in sync with the TM reprint; the new version only added some miscellaneous errata.  We're still wrestling with what to do with the burst-fire issue as a whole.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #39 on: 25 November 2018, 13:04:41 »
p.101 TM - straight from the recent errata (pp. 4 and 38 of the errata v. 3.0 document):

"WiGEs: These vehicles must be constructed with a minimum of 5 MP."

This rule should specify if it means 5 Cruise MP or 5 Flank MP.
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Hello Errata board,

TechManual Hard Cover 2007/PDF 2007-2018 Extended Fuel Tanks Industrial Equipment Table possible errata.

TM p. 244 Unit Restrictions: Only IndustrialMechs and Combat Vehicles with ICE or Fuel Cell engines may install extended fuel tanks. Per Construction Rules "For Combat Vehicles, an extended fuel tank occupies one slot (regardless of its weight), which must be placed in the Body."

On the Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 cross referencing Extended Fuel Tanks to the Space column entry of CV has NA.

Recommended change to Industrial Equipment Table (p. 344)

Under “Extended Fuel Tanks”, change the CV Space from "NA" to “1”

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CGL TM PDF 2007-2018 Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 Pintle Ref
« Reply #41 on: 05 December 2018, 00:03:04 »
Hello all,

The CGL TM PDF 2007-2018 Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 Pintle Ref is listed as p. 235.

The correct page number is 234.

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CGL TM Hardcover 2007/PDF 2007-2018 External Stores Hardpoint
« Reply #42 on: 05 December 2018, 00:21:58 »
Hello Errata board,

TechManual Hard Cover 2007/PDF 2007-2018 Industrial Equipment Table entry for the External Stores Hardpoint may have possible errata.

TM p. 217
Tech Base: Inner Sphere and Clan

Unit Restrictions: Only Fixed-Wing Support Vehicles may install external stores hardpoints. (Conventional and aerospace fighters receive them free.)

Construction Rules: Aerospace and conventional fighters receive external stores hardpoints (also known as bomb hardpoints) for free (see Add Weapons, Ammunition and Other Equipment in the Aerospace section, p. 194). To acquire the same capability, Fixed-Wing Support Vehicles must install hardpoints. A Fixed-Wing Support Vehicle may carry a maximum of 1 hardpoint for every 10 tons of unit weight (rounded down).

On the Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 cross referencing External Stores Hardpoint Space column entry of F has NA.

The Heavy Weapons and Equipment Key CGL TM p. 341 has the entry:

Space Entry Code: NA
Construction Rule: Item may not be mounted on these units

The reference for the external stores hardpoint states that aerospace and conventional fighters have this installed for free. I believe the table entry is incorrect.

Recommended change to Industrial Equipment Table (p. 344)

Under “External Stores Hardpoint”, change the F Space from entry from "NA" to “0”

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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #43 on: 11 January 2019, 10:01:42 »
CGL TM PDF 2007-2018

Page 7

Still listed as Corrected Third Printing

This should now be: Corrected Fourth Printing
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #44 on: 15 January 2019, 19:21:32 »
No, it is [intended to be] the third printing.  The last PDF release from a few years back also says this, yes, but it never went to print, so this is the new third printing candidate.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #45 on: 16 January 2019, 12:03:23 »
No, it is [intended to be] the third printing.  The last PDF release from a few years back also says this, yes, but it never went to print, so this is the new third printing candidate.

OK, good to know. My physical TECH MANUAL is (C) 2007, so I am assuming it is a First Printing.


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Re: TechManual - 14 June 2019 (v3.1)
« Reply #46 on: 14 June 2019, 16:22:27 »
Now that I know for certain that the reprint of TechManual exists in physical form, I can toss up the errata for it.

Available in the first post, as usual it will be made official and sent to the main BT website once a week or so passes.  Let me know if you see any issues.
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Re: TechManual - 14 June 2019 (v3.1)
« Reply #47 on: 05 July 2019, 05:45:28 »
Tech Manual Errata v 3.1, page 22 (Transport Bay table)

The line for Foot Infantry only lists 28 troopers vice 30.  This would require the Taurians (and not just the Marians and ComStar) to use non-standard ships to haul their Foot infantry.  Coupled with the reduction of basic troopers to 0.085 tons each, 30 seems like the correct number (even with Anti-Mech equipment, 30 Taurians still only weigh 3 tons, the same as a 28-trooper platoon from TW).  The Taurians are covered for Jump, Motorized and Mechanized platoons.  It's only Foot that have a problem.

Also, the "Game Rules" entry below the notes cites Total Warfare pages 213-214, but TW page 212 explicitly cites Tech Manual, referring to the rules on page 147 of that book (from which the 30 trooper platoons of the Taurians are drawn).

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Re: TechManual - 14 June 2019 (v3.1)
« Reply #48 on: 12 September 2019, 06:10:06 »
TechManual version 3.1:


P.300 = Cost for the M61A Laser Rifle should be 7150 not 2150.  Grenade cost should be 20 not 16.

p.350 = The Shredder Heavy Needler Rifle should not have the N Damage Type as the effective AP is 1.

p.351 = The MRM Launcher Crew should be 1E not 1.

p.352 = The Light SRM Launcher's number of shots should be 1 not 2.  The Heavy SRM Launcher's number of shots should be 2 not 1, and the damage and BV (p.319) should be the same as the standard SRM Launcher.


Xotl: Note to self to recheck these once new printing is released.
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #49 on: 06 December 2019, 18:21:43 »
The errata has been updated to v4.0.  There is only one new entry here--a very niche note about airship construction (which I added to the previous releases "New Additions" list).  The main point of the release is just to show what has changed between the third and the upcoming fourth printing (and to upload the new Piloting BV mods to the website in the supplemental document).
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #50 on: 07 December 2019, 18:26:35 »
Oops. 1 day late?

TechManual version 3.1:

p.239 = Capacity of infantry bay should be 30 troopers in a 5-ton bay to align with pages 145, 147, and 155.
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #51 on: 14 December 2019, 07:11:23 »
Tech Manual, E-CAT35002V_TechManual.pdf version (and the v3.0 Infantry Tables errata)

Page 351: Damage for the AA Weapon (Mk. 1 Light AA) should be 0.28 vice 0.23.

The AToW damage code for the Mk. 1 includes the "S" code for splash damage, which does not appear to have been factored in.  The AToW Companion page 170 formula yields 0.23 without it, and 0.28 with it.  The difference may have instead arisen due to the change in rounding for the Burst rating (that factor is now rounded up).

Similarly, the damage for the AA Weapon (Mk. 2 Man-Portable AA) should be 0.88 vice the listed 0.81 for the same reason.


EDIT: I misremembered the change, which was to change it from rounding up to rounding normally.  It would be helpful if the Companion errata was formally published.
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #52 on: 25 March 2020, 23:01:43 »
2019 - third printing (Catalyst/Topps: retro art cover), updated 2020

p. 193, second paragraph under Step 5: Add Weapons, Ammunition, and Other Equipment

Incorrect unit conversion in the final sentence of the paragraph: 2 tons of ammo per launcher times 5 shots per ton is 10 shots per launcher, not 10 shots per ton.

The final sentence of that paragraph should read "For example, a unit carrying 4 ATM-12s would need 24 tons of ATM ammo—6 per launcher—to reach the required 10 shots of each ammo type per launcher, as each ton of ATM ammo equals 5 shots (2 tons of ammo per launcher x 5 shots per ton = 10 shots per launcher; 3 ammo types per ATM x 2 tons per ammo type x 4 ATMs = 24 tons of ammo)."



Also, there is an error in either the table on p. 346 or the text on p. 230.
On p. 346, the MASH Core Unit and added theaters are listed as NA for both DropShips and small craft, meaning that they cannot carry MASH facilities. However, on p. 230, the list of restricted units for MASH equipment does not mention either DropShips or small craft. Furthermore, both unit types are specifically mentioned as being able to carry it in the construction rules a few lines down.

I assume the correction would be to change the table on p. 346 to read "1*" for the core component on both small craft and DropShips, and similarly to read "0*" for added theaters on both small craft and DropShips.
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #53 on: 30 June 2020, 13:40:43 »
Corrected Third Printing:

Page 346, Heavy Weapon Ammunition Table:

NARC Missile Beacon (Homing) ammunition is listed as IS-only, should read IS/Clan.
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #54 on: 12 December 2020, 23:56:25 »
PDF corrected 4th printing; v4.0 errata document.

Page 20, "Medium Weapons", first paragraph, last sentence.
Original text: "In terms of construction, medium weapons may be mounted only on Small Support Vehicles or battle armor with anti-personnel weapon mounts."
Suggested change: "In terms of construction, medium weapons may be mounted only on Small Support Vehicles."
Reason: Following previous errata changes, APW mounts no longer support Medium Weapons. However, Battle Armor units with Armored Glove manipulators can still carry single-crew Medium Weapons. You may wish to mention this instead, but either way APW mounts should not be mentioned.


Page 190, "Special Enhancements", second paragraph.
Text states that "Aerospace fighters and aerodyne Small Craft, by virtue of their design, already incorporate VSTOL capabilities, but may mount this equipment to eliminate the +2 penalty for attempting a vertical landing in atmosphere." However, the Sabutai (aerospace fighter) and Astrolux (aerodyne small craft) example text below contradicts this, and the Tech Base and Space sections do not mention ASF or aerodyne Small Craft (although the rules can be implied to be the same as for conventional fighters). This also bleeds into the question of whether aerodyne Small Craft and DropShips can make vertical landings in-atmosphere (see rules question thread); that question should probably be decided before any changes are made here.

Page 233, "Snub-Nose PPC"
Errata document states that "Extinct: 2790" and "Recovered: 3067 (Draconis Combine)" should be added to the entry. 4th corrected printing text instead states "Extinct: 2860 (Inner Sphere)" and "Recovered: 3037 (Draconis Combine)". Presumably one of these is incorrect.

Page 256, "Grenade Launcher"
Introduction dates in the 4th corrected printing do not match what is listed in the errata document. Presumably one of these is incorrect (in this case, very possibly the errata document, as the errata text is a subset of the document text).

Errata document error (page 26)
The errata for the battle-armor Long Range Missile (LRM) Launchers and Advanced Short Range Missile Launcher (found on Page 26 of the errata document) are listed as being for Page 267. They are actually for Page 261. Both errata are nevertheless correctly implemented in the 4th corrected printing.

Page 285, Final Unit Cost Formulas Table, Support Vehicles
End of the WiGE support vehicle cost calculation should probably be "(1+[Total Tonnage/25])" to match the other entries rather than the errata/currently printed text of "(1[Total Tonnage/25])".

Page 295, Heavy Weapon Ammunition (cont)
Delete the Incendiary (LRM) entry entirely.

Page 297, Additional Battle Armor Weapons and Equipment (cont)
Under "Fuel Tank", change Extinction from "-/-" to "2781/-" to match entry on page 255?

Page 346, Heavy Weapon Ammunition (Cont)
A fragment of the deleted footnote related to Incendiary LRM capability is still present and should be deleted. Fragment reads: "Thunder); in such cases the heat, damage, range, and ammo capacity/weight statistics of the other missile type apply, but rack size is treated as 5 tubes smaller." and does not have an associated footnote mark.

Page 352, Conventional Infantry Weapons (Cont)
Minor typo: the weight of the SRM Launcher (Standard, Two-Shot) is listed as "30.0 k" rather than "30.0 kg". This typo is also found in the replacement Infantry Weapon Tables errata document.

Errata document error (page 37)
Errata entry 8 for the Inner Sphere Battle Armor Equipment Table (located near the top of Page 37 in the errata document) describes a change in a footnote related to Incendiary LRMs. This footnote should instead be listed as deleted entirely (which is correctly implemented in the 4th corrected printing). Errata entry 9 for the same table describes a change related to Capital Missiles (definitely not part of the table); this change is both properly described elsewhere in the errata document and properly implemented in the 4th corrected printing, so the entry should simply be deleted.
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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #55 on: 23 December 2020, 13:22:11 »
DEV-LEVEL ERRATA (From DarkISI)

Corrected Fourth Printing, PDF

p.317 and 318

--Create ‡ footnotes on both pages stating the following: "Treat as Gauss weapon when calculating defensive battle rating."
--Add the ‡ symbol next to the B-Pod on both pages.
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TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0) errata v4.0 new additions
« Reply #56 on: 15 January 2021, 10:34:42 »
TechManual Errata v4.0

The "New Additions" section, page 39, of the errata document, third bullet point -- "Determine Structural Integrity (Airships/Fixed-Wings Only) (p. 130)" -- gives its applicability as "First paragraph, last sentence".

I believe this should be "Second paragraph, first sentence".

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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #57 on: 13 May 2021, 09:50:30 »
VERSION:
Tech Manual, 4th printing

LOCATION:
Oversized Platoons construction example: Eberhard's Marian platoon, p. 146ff
(All emphasis mine)

p.146: Section "Oversized Platoons": "These troops must be divided as evenly as possible, regardless of the squad size chosen [...]"
p. 147, left column, Eberhard's example: "He soon finds that the most even division breaks his platoon into 4 sub-platoons of 25 troopers each."
p. 151, right column, last sentence, Eberhard's example: "Because his platoon is broken into five sub-platoons for construction and game play[...]"
p. 153, right column, Eberhard's example: "Multiplying each trooper individually on the first row for his four-row Marian platoon[...]
p, 155, right column, Eberhard's example: "[...]but since Eberhard has broken his platoon up among 4 lines [...]


THE ERROR:
1) The example step on page 151 uses a different sub-platoon size than the other  3 steps.
2) The wording of the rule on page 146 is ambiguous, 100 men in 4 groups of 25 is a completely even distribution, but distributing 100 men in 5 groups of 20 is completely even, too.
Most statements in the example and some entries in the MUL seem to indicate that the intention is to use as few subplatoons as possible under the condition of even distribution.

THE CORRECTION:
1) Change the wording on page 151 to "[...] is broken into 4 sub-platoons for construction and game play[...]"
2) Clarify that the intention is to use as few sub-platoons as possible.

Minor quibble: low numbers are sometimes spelled out and sometimes written as digits ("five sub-platoons", "4 sub-platoons")

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Re: TechManual - 6 December 2019 (v4.0)
« Reply #58 on: 18 May 2021, 11:54:15 »
Version: TechManual, Corrected Fourth Printing, pdf

Location: Page 93, "Close Range/Urban Combat"

Error: The fluff text describes a Patton combat vehicle rather than a Rommel.

Correction: Replace the vehicle name "Rommel" with "Patton".

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Re: TechManual - 19 December 2019 (v4.1)
« Reply #59 on: 19 May 2021, 13:43:07 »
The pre-release errata is up, with an aim to be finalized on 6 June.  Any items mentioned here but not included are either typo-like or still be wrangled over.

There will be accompanying fixes to the Infantry Tables and BV document, but these will be very minor.
« Last Edit: 19 May 2021, 13:49:26 by Xotl »
3028-3057 Random Assignment Tables -
Also contains faction deployment & rarity info.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=1219.0

 

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