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lucho

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Would you rather...?
« on: 12 February 2019, 21:17:03 »

Here's the choice. We're talking about an assault mech with the following details:

85 tons
Triple Strength Myomers
jump of 210m ( 7 MP)
15.5 tons std armor
 the following weapons:
                2 Snubnosed PPCs
                2 ER Small Lasers
                2 Medium X-Pulse Lasers
                1 Small X-Pulse Laser
                1 (std) Large Laser


Here's the first contender:
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Samson SAM-001

Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel Biped
Power Plant: 255 XL
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Jump Jets: Mechanical Jump Booster
     Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     2 Medium X-Pulse Laser
     2 ER Small Laser
     1 Small X-Pulse Laser
     2 Snub-Nose PPC
     1 Large Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3115
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-E
Cost: 19,866,873 C-bills

Type: Samson
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Tonnage: 85
Battle Value: 2,171

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure            Endo Steel            4.5
Engine                        255 XL                6.5
Walking MP: 3 (4)
Running MP: 5 (6)
Jumping MP: 7
Double Heat Sink              11 [22]                 1
XL Gyro                                             1.5
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor                  248                  15.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            27        40   
     Center Torso (rear)               11   
     R/L Torso               18        28   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  8     
     R/L Arm                 14        28   
     R/L Leg                 18        30   


Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand

Weapons
and Ammo                        Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
Mech Mechanical Jump Boosters    RL/LL      2/2       -       30.0 
ER Small Laser                     RT        1        2       0.5   
Medium X-Pulse Laser               RT        1        6       2.0   
Double Heat Sink                   RT        3        -       1.0   
Triple Strength Myomer         RT 1    -       0.0   
Snub-Nose PPC                      LA        2        10      6.0   
2 Triple Strength Myomers      RA     2    -       0.0   
ER Small Laser                     LT        1        2       0.5   
Medium X-Pulse Laser               LT        1        6       2.0   
Triple Strength Myomer         LT1    -       0.0   
Large Laser                        LT        2        8       5.0   
Small X-Pulse Laser                HD        1        3       1.0   
Snub-Nose PPC                      RA        2        10      6.0   
2 Triple Strength Myomers          LA    2    -       0.0   
   
Here's the second:
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Samson (Winged) SAM-002

Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 340 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Jump Jets: Improved Jump Jets
     Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     2 Medium X-Pulse Laser
     2 ER Small Laser
     1 Small X-Pulse Laser
     2 Snub-Nose PPC
     1 Large Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3142
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-D
Cost: 25,553,618 C-bills

Type: Samson (Winged)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Tonnage: 85
Battle Value: 2,347

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  8.5
Engine                        340 XL               13.5
Walking MP: 4 (5)
Running MP: 6 (8)
Jumping MP: 7
Double Heat Sink              10 [23]                 0
Gyro                                                  4
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor                  248                  15.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            27        40   
     Center Torso (rear)               11   
     R/L Torso               18        28   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  8     
     R/L Arm                 14        28   
     R/L Leg                 18        30   


Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand

Weapons
and Ammo                    Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
Improved Jump Jet              LL        2        -       2.0   
Large Laser                    CT        2        8       5.0   
2 Improved Jump Jets           RT        4        -       4.0   
Medium X-Pulse Laser           RT        1        6       2.0   
Snub-Nose PPC                  LA        2        10      6.0   
2 ER Small Lasers              LA        2        2       1.0   
3 Triple Strength Myomers    LA     3       -       0.0   
Partial Wing                 RT/LT      4/4       -       5.5   
2 Improved Jump Jets           LT        4        -       4.0   
Medium X-Pulse Laser           LT        1        6       2.0   
Improved Jump Jet              RL        2        -       2.0   
Small X-Pulse Laser            HD        1        3       1.0   
Snub-Nose PPC                  RA        2        10      6.0   
3 Triple Strength Myomers    RA      3       -       0.0   
   

The upshot is this: Mechanical Jump Boosters or Improved Jumpjets + Partial Wing? The MJBs are quite a bit heavier, but only take up only four critical slots. The IJJ + Partial Wing combo is lighter, but occupies a massive amount of critical spaces, preventing the use of most advanced construction materials.

Mechanical Jump Boosters (7MP): 30 tons, 4 critical spaces, no heat for movement, works underwater
Improved Jumpjets + Partial Wing: 17.5 tons, 20 critical spaces, small bonus to heat dissipation

Why would you go with one or the other?
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Re: Would you rather...?
« Reply #1 on: 12 February 2019, 21:46:25 »
For a TSM machine? I'd go with the jump boosters. Anything else, the partial wing.

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Re: Would you rather...?
« Reply #2 on: 12 February 2019, 22:38:41 »
My own experience is that the Mechanical Jump Boosters mix well with TSM; no-heat jumps are a definite plus. The main problem with a IJJ + Partial Wing combo is that it fills up the torsos. Arm-mounted weapons aren't ideal for a mech with TSM
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