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BattleTech Player Boards => BattleTech Roleplaying => MechWarrior Hall => Topic started by: 97jedi on 06 July 2011, 17:41:22
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Nothing like a new thread to spiff up this place, eh?
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I was wondering what you'd name this.
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Isn't this premature?
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That's what SHE...wait... no...
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I was wondering what you'd name this.
Isn't this premature?
and to think, we ended the last one on the topic of bacon... a definite high point O0
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and to think, we ended the last one on the topic of bacon... a definite high point O0
I was hoping to see bacon in the title.
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I considered Bacon Triumphant as a subtitle, but went another way. I mean, what is bacon if not eternally grand?
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I was hoping to see bacon in the title.
Me too, great minds thinking alike and all that...
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I had bacon this morning, along with eggs over-easy, grits and toast. Whee!
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Me too, great minds thinking alike and all that...
Although, Bacon's Eternal Grandeur might drag the riff-raff in.
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Isn't this premature?
My thoughts exactly.
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My thoughts exactly.
Yes, and you had just made a point.
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hello all you happy people...
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What a frustrating day. Not enough accomplished at work, my mother has apparently been inviting people to my wedding at random without mentioning it, I'm exhausted, I have a doctor's appointment...blegh.
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So the magic number is now 30 and a half pages (REAL pages, not those silly ones that have less than the maximum number of posts)?
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What a frustrating day. Not enough accomplished at work, my mother has apparently been inviting people to my wedding at random without mentioning it, I'm exhausted, I have a doctor's appointment...blegh.
She totally invited me. And then she said something. Yeah!
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Another trip to the used bookstore. Someone had turned in a bunch of non-Fleming 007 novels, so there went my store credit and more.
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What a frustrating day. Not enough accomplished at work, my mother has apparently been inviting people to my wedding at random without mentioning it, I'm exhausted, I have a doctor's appointment...blegh.
One of the guys in my sword arch showed up with his wife (expected) and his mother (unexpected) but didn't come to the reception (sadly unexpected). At the moment of seeing his mother I was shuffling the seating chart in my head because my wife and drilled that and the timeline (down to the minute as my brother likes to point out) into my head. So it could be worse, right? Hope the appointment goes well.
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What a frustrating day. Not enough accomplished at work, my mother has apparently been inviting people to my wedding at random without mentioning it, I'm exhausted, I have a doctor's appointment...blegh.
We didn't quite elope, but it was maybe a dozen or people at our wedding. She chose the Hawaiian honeymoon over the fancy wedding.
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Yes, and you had just made a point.
That too, but mostly I was trying to time the first post on 100. I'm some times a bit of a shellfish. :)
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That too, but mostly I was trying to time the first post on 100. I'm some times a bit of a shellfish. :)
Damn the Internets.
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I'm some times a bit of a shellfish. :)
Bacon-wrapped shellfish? ;)
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Somewhere a rabbi is cringing.
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Bacon-wrapped shellfish? ;)
I want, but will settle for the home made spaghetti.
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Somewhere a rabbi is cringing.
But think of the bacon lovers out there.
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Your mom pulling that crap too? I told my mom if she wanted to do that crap, she could chip some money in. That shut her up pretty quickly.
What a frustrating day. Not enough accomplished at work, my mother has apparently been inviting people to my wedding at random without mentioning it, I'm exhausted, I have a doctor's appointment...blegh.
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As my mother is a devout Catholic, we don't discuss the topic, as it invariably degenerates quickly.
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Beware of asking mothers to put their money where their meddle is. Mine pulls the reverse: She'll give me money on any occasion with no conditions, then assumes that this later gives her the authority to control things later as she wishes.
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Your mom pulling that crap too? I told my mom if she wanted to do that crap, she could chip some money in. That shut her up pretty quickly.
My mom has insisted on paying for things we don't want, like a luncheon after the wedding for all my relatives (we're not attending, we're having a small grill-out with friends at a park). It's madness, madness!
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Gotcha. My future SiL had that done by her husbands parents. My mom doesn't have much money, so it's kind of mean to say that to her, but she expects me to invite her friends and their kids. I'm trying to avoid bankruptcy, afterall. In fact, I just wanted a courthouse wedding and take all the cash and go to Tahiti or something. Goodluck!
My mom has insisted on paying for things we don't want, like a luncheon after the wedding for all my relatives (we're not attending, we're having a small grill-out with friends at a park). It's madness, madness!
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Your wedding stories remind me of a few funerals I've been to.
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Gotcha. My future SiL had that done by her husbands parents. My mom doesn't have much money, so it's kind of mean to say that to her, but she expects me to invite her friends and their kids. I'm trying to avoid bankruptcy, afterall. In fact, I just wanted a courthouse wedding and take all the cash and go to Tahiti or something. Goodluck!
Do what I did: The reception was held in my living room, with drinks being what was in my fridge, and food being the cheapest takeout pizza in the area, which I picked up myself right after getting back from the ceremony. I went to a lot of public places in my wedding outfit that day...
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Do what I did: The reception was held in my living room, with drinks being what was in my fridge, and food being the cheapest takeout pizza in the area, which I picked up myself right after getting back from the ceremony. I went to a lot of public places in my wedding outfit that day...
Be a little tough for me. Between parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles and first cousins I am obligated to invite 50 people (I counted at the last wedding).
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Same here. It was a crowded living room.
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and to think, we ended the last one on the topic of bacon... a definite high point O0
And I just heard earlier today that the price of bacon will be going up. I wonder if that includes all pork-based products such as sausage, ham and government spending.
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And I just heard earlier today that the price of bacon will be going up. I wonder if that includes all pork-based products such as sausage, ham and government spending.
Like those all come from the same wonderful, magical animal! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWI8uFTNis)
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Be a little tough for me. Between parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles and first cousins I am obligated to invite 50 people (I counted at the last wedding).
100+ for me. My dad's family was Catholic, and my mom's is a weird brand of Protestant. There's a whole lot of 'em.
In other news, I just finished, for now, a Fading Suns wiki on the site for for my still-mostly-hypothetical game. Am I a nerd? Oh yeah. I'm a nerd.
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So I'm currently watching that movie Splice because I apparently hate myself. This movie is entirely propelled by the fact that the main female character is the stupidest ****** person on the planet.
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So I'm currently watching that movie Splice because I apparently hate myself. This movie is entirely propelled by the fact that the main female character is the stupidest ****** person on the planet.
It was so awful. Melanie and I were literally shouting at it in the theater, and we were not alone.
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I have been shouting at it for at least an hour now. And I must amend my previous statement: this movie is propelled by both of the main characters being in a dead heat for title of Stupidest ****** Person on the Planet.
I mean, seriously, Adrien Brody just banged the creature. Banged it. I continue watching this movie only because I hope everyone in it dies. Messily.
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I have been shouting at it for at least an hour now. And I must amend my previous statement: this movie is propelled by both of the main characters being in a dead heat for title of Stupidest ****** Person on the Planet.
I mean, seriously, Adrien Brody just banged the creature. Banged it. I continue watching this movie only because I hope everyone in it dies. Messily.
It only gets dumber, if you can imagine.
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I'm going to try to white-knuckle it through the third act.
EDIT: Well, unfortunately only Adrien Brody was killed, but I made it through. That is quite possibly the worst movie I have ever seen, which is something I never thought I'd say again after Battlefield: Earth. I didn't even pay to see that movie and I want my money back.
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My wedding story -
My wife is an only adopted daughter, and her mom has never really liked me. We have a relationship that is complicated, to say the least.
After we announced our engagement, my MIL says, "I don't know that we can afford a huge wedding." This was just after they bought the new house. And car. My wife worked in the not for profit world at the time, and knew a bunch of folks and called a few favors in. We had a late afternoon wedding with a dessert bar afterwards, the two ladies who owned the catering company knew my wife from work and charged us just enough to cover the cost of the food. We had a cappuccino guy there, he charged cut rates. The photographer charged us about 25% of what he normally charged. The most expensive outlay (other than my wife's dress) was the four piece jazz band we hired, and we had to pay slightly above minimum due to the union contract, which was no big deal.
Now, I proposed in November, we set an October wedding, and in May my MIL announces she has breast cancer. Very treatable, she did very well, and she came through with flying colors. But she wanted to postpone the wedding because after the chemo she thought she would "look to bad" and didn't want people to think of her that way, which should have been my first clue I suppose. Meanwhile, the guest list is growing, and in addition to the complaining about "The chemo is making me so sick" we get "this is getting very expensive for us" every conversation we have with her.
My wife is a very creative person, and bought the materials for our invitation. She spent a few days putting the pieces together, tweaking it (sort of like painting your custom camo scheme on a model, you try it out first to get the process right, then after the first one is done, assembly line time), and got it looking great. In fact, a few of her friends asked her to do theirs for their wedding.
So, we meet MIL for lunch one day. She's has started chemo, but shes doing the whole brave face thing, and literally first thing through the door is she announces the guest list is getting bigger. I say, this isn't exactly what we were going for, but OK. Lunch, and afterwards my wife pulls out the invite. My MIL takes one look at it, declares it amateurish and says that she can't send that out, what will people think? I say "Is that really your call to make?" and she looks me right in the eye and says "Well, your not paying for it, I am so it is my call." and my wife gets up and leaves, in tears. Luckily we had come in separate cars, or she would have left me there.
I leave, follow my wife, get her home, make sure shes OK, then go to my in laws house about four hours later, under the pretense of stopping by work for a meeting.
I have a conversation with my mother in law. My father in law is there as well, but I talk for just a few minutes. I tell her that if she doesn't apologize to my wife in person, she's no longer invited to the wedding. She starts to interrupt me but I stare at her, the sort of stare that makes my Father in Law pause, swallow, and say "Hon, shut the hell up and listen." I tell her She's no longer welcome in my house, or at any of my wife's and I events. We don't want her money, or her "help", especially if it comes with the strings she's attached. I tell her she made my wife cry once, and that was one time to many, and if she does it again I will make sure that she will regret it for the rest of her life. And I tell her in no uncertain terms that if she doesn't apologize to my wife and she shows up at the wedding, I will first announce to the assembled guests what she has done, and then I will put one hand on the back of her neck, one hand on her beltline, and I will physically throw her out of the church. My Father in Law gets up, escorts me to the door and says "I had no idea this was going on, I'll take care of this," shakes my hand, and I leave. So I drive home, the long way, and when I get there, my in laws are there, my mother in law is upset, my wife is upset, but my mother in law apologized, and a general truce was called. We had a great wedding, and after party.
Kicker of the story is when my wife and I were on honeymoon, my parents helped my inlaws move our gifts into the house, and my mother in law thought it would be a good idea to tell my mom what had gone down, and asked my mothers opinion on the matter. My mom apparently said "I think that for someone to act that way is despicable." and my MIL agreed, saying she didn't approve of my behavior, to which my mom replied "No, you misunderstood me. I think what you did was horrible (although according to my dad and in law she used different verbiage), and if you had tried calling my sons bluff he never would have been able to throw you out the church, because I would have beaten him to it. You try anything like that again you make sure your willing to live with the consequences, because my son doesn't joke about things like that. Ever."
That was 13 years ago. It's been a Cold War since then, but things are starting to get...interesting.
Davout
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So I'm currently watching that movie Splice because I apparently hate myself. This movie is entirely propelled by the fact that the main female character is the stupidest ****** person on the planet.
Isn't that every movie and TV show to come out of Hollywood and be considered 'good' in the last 10 years.
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Isn't that every movie and TV show to come out of Hollywood and be considered 'good' in the last 10 years.
What? No. If anything, the last decade has been a new golden age of great television. Just because there's lots of crap out there doesn't mean there isn't also lots of great stuff too.
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But how many of the shows you consider great are actually considered to be so by the Critics and Studios?
Most of the shows I've enjoyed have been constantly on the verge of cancellation (or beyond), while shows where every character is completely unlikeable to the point of my not caring if the entire cast lives or dies are proclaimed the second coming.
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Dang, Davout, that's a hell of a thing. I'm fortunate in that I get along well with my future mother in law, and even with my own mom, this too will pass. Dang. Dang.
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I had bacon this morning, along with eggs over-easy, grits and toast. Whee!
Oddly i cooked bacon last night, along with my speciality scrambled eggs. I say that because the Other Half believes nobody does them
quite like i do. Me i'm not so convinced, but occasionally it's good to bask in a certain glow of culinary artistry.
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...That was 13 years ago. It's been a Cold War since then, but things are starting to get...interesting.
Davout
I'm lucky in that Em's mum, although she has her moments, has always got on well with me and has always been great about us. But I've been there in the past, a then girlfriend's best friend used to resort to emotional blackmail to get her way. I wasn't as lucky as you though, Davout, I relented for my girlfriend's sake. Ended up being one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made....
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Oddly i cooked bacon last night, along with my speciality scrambled eggs. I say that because the Other Half believes nobody does them
quite like i do. Me i'm not so convinced, but occasionally it's good to bask in a certain glow of culinary artistry.
I'm eating eggs over medium, bacon, and hash browns, RIGHT NOW. Lest you envy me too much, I'm also at work.
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I'm eating eggs over medium, bacon, and hash browns, RIGHT NOW. Lest you envy me too much, I'm also at work.
I'm reading this while you're eating bacon! Speaking of true ham, has anyone been to Camo Specs today? The third 'Mech picture made me laugh.
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I take it thats the Elsie equivalent of the Go-Compare Tenor?
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I take it thats the Elsie equivalent of the Go-Compare Tenor?
For the rest of the day I will hate your for exposing me to that and damnation to YouTube also. Is the mustache always the same?
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I gotta join the other in saying: DANG, Davout... :o
I hate to brag*, but my in-laws are awesome, all three of them. I vastly prefer them over my own parents.
*okay, I don't
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Oh, I have plenty of stories almost as bad as that one. Ask me about my son being born....
Honestly, It's gotten worse since my father in law died. He had the ability to look at her and essentially say "Shut up and smile honey" which I can't do with a straight face. My wife and I found out we were having another kid. Financially, it was not a good time for us, and we knew it. My parents happened to be in town visiting the week we found out, and when we told them, my mom paused for a few moments looked at us said "Congratulations. I think the timing is horrible and you're a bit (IE VERY) irresponsible for not taking precautions, but you're already good parents and I know you'll do what you have to to raise a good family. I can't say I am happy for you at this exact moment, I hope you understand." And she hugged my wife and I and we had a good lunch afterwards, and when she left she congratulated my wife again. I know that inside she was a seething cauldron of...well, something, but she never let it show.
But we did understand. From a personal and financial point of view, having our son when we did was just on the right side of insane. Anyways, my mother in law was out of town when we found out. It was odd, my parents left, and she came back on the same day, and we had dinner at her place that night, and my wife said "Mom, I have an announcement to make." And my mom gets this worried look on her face. Her big fear is that my wife or I "will find a job out of town and move the family leaving her all alone", so she's sitting on the couch waiting for that [particular shoe to drop, and my wife says "I'm pregnant, we're having another baby sometime early next year."
And my mother in Laws hand flies to her mouth, she has this look of shock on her face, and she says, "But you're barely making it as it is now!" and it didn't get much better after that.
My son turned two this past February. And yes, it's been a rough couple of years. And she tries to be a good grandmother, and for the most part she succeeds. It's just that every little success is marred by a massive failure on another level.
And she's still never congratulated my wife or I on having him. Even after he spent three weeks in the NICU after he was born.
Yes, I am a bit bitter over that.
Davout
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Man, I can't even imagine what it will be like to be a parent. Probably hellish, I was a little monster, and I only got worse as I got older. Hopefully our hypothetical future offspring (the Melward) will take after her, not me.
In other news, check this (http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/the-times-are-nightfall) out! I spent last night after my doctor's visit adding to the wiki in a fog of pain.
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I get along great with my in-laws, and Lisa has liked my parents the 3 times she's met them. Her father and I have a few similar interests(cigars and alcohol) and he turned me into a ****** fan as part of my cultural assimilation process. And my MIL has been busy with my wife's much younger sister, leaving her less time to meddle in her daughter's life.
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She has her moments, she really does.
And she's trying to be better. My wife says the problem is she is just so set in her ways she doesn't know any better.
Which could be true.
But has been trying more as off late. I *think* my wife had a talk with her after my son was born and laid out a few things, since then shes been a very different person.
Davout
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For the rest of the day I will hate your for exposing me to that and damnation to YouTube also. Is the mustache always the same?
Yes, yes it is... #P
If its any consolation, I'll point you to the Compare the Market meerkat adds which, at least, are pretty funny.
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I mean, seriously, Adrien Brody just banged the creature. Banged it.
Given that my understanding is that movie is supposed to be a metaphor for parenthood, this is very disturbing.
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Given that my understanding is that movie is supposed to be a metaphor for parenthood, this is very disturbing.
It's even worse than you know.
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Over-medium? I didn't even know there was such a thing. Man, you are fussy!
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Over-medium? I didn't even know there was such a thing. Man, you are fussy!
They're amazing. I make no apologies.
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I'm digging the HOGARTH!!! Atlas.
While my in-laws aren't as bad as Davout, they are quite the drama factories. MiL got engaged 4 months after we did, to a man my fiancee didn't like. Upon there first meeting, he insulted Christine for not working enough, going to school full time was "no excuse" and she should just drop out and find a man to take care of her, or go work full time.". He is rude, insulting and a general ass. I met him before he knew who I was and displayed a wonderfully 18th century outlook on the role of a women. They then eloped and got married in June. Then, to top it off, he decided that their reception party be on my fiancee's birthday. That went over like a wet fart in church. To top it off, they are living (and are planning to continue to live) in his house which is under foreclosure--which is how he afforded her $4500 wedding ring and Vegas vacation. He is unemployed and gets "Spousal Support" from his ex-wife till the end of the year... The bright side is MiL's family is upset that Christine is not supporting her mom, which means like half of our wedding may not show up(MiL is Puerto Rican and has the largest family I have ever seen). He is not invited (MiL IS) and if he shows up, I have 2 friends that are Sheriff Deputies and have promised to take care of any problems.
Edward, I am curious as to how this game would work and such.
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I'm eating eggs over medium, bacon, and hash browns, RIGHT NOW. Lest you envy me too much, I'm also at work.
Now that's the sort of dish HP Sauce was invented for!
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Edward, I am curious as to how this game would work and such.
It'd be play by post. I'm running a Weird World War II game on the same lines right now and having a blast. Basically the PCs post their actions and so forth, and I, having the inestimable advantage of knowing the rules, roll dice and so forth for them.
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Over-medium? I didn't even know there was such a thing. Man, you are fussy!
I like mine over hard. No runny yolk for me.
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Now that's the sort of dish HP Sauce was invented for!
The key is to put the eggs on top of the hash browns, then rupture the yolks and then AHM NOM NOM
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I just got back from IHOP, and that's EXACTLY how my wife ate hers. She does prefer to put bacon in the middle, though.
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I just got back from IHOP, and that's EXACTLY how my wife ate hers. She does prefer to put bacon in the middle, though.
Also a good plan.
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I just got back from IHOP, and that's EXACTLY how my wife ate hers. She does prefer to put bacon in the middle, though.
You have yourself an excellent wife there, Weirdo.
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Yes he does. Mine usually feeds me the turkey bacon these days. :'(
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But how many of the shows you consider great are actually considered to be so by the Critics and Studios?
Most of the shows I've enjoyed have been constantly on the verge of cancellation (or beyond), while shows where every character is completely unlikeable to the point of my not caring if the entire cast lives or dies are proclaimed the second coming.
You're talking to a man with a Ron f'n Swanson avatar, you know.
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But how many of the shows you consider great are actually considered to be so by the Critics and Studios?
Most of the shows I've enjoyed have been constantly on the verge of cancellation (or beyond), while shows where every character is completely unlikeable to the point of my not caring if the entire cast lives or dies are proclaimed the second coming.
Off the top of my head: The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones...and that's not even counting the comedies.
If you want good reviews, check out the AV Club. I get the feeling you've been reading the work of shitty critics like Peter Travers.
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Yes he does. Mine usually feeds me the turkey bacon these days. :'(
My sincerest apologies...
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If you want good reviews, check out the AV Club. I get the feeling you've been reading the work of shitty critics like Peter Travers.
Side brag: I know the guy who does their Star Trek reviews, he's a really nice fellow.
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Star Trek is still on?
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Star Trek is always on, on some station somewhere in the world
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Star Trek is still on?
He started out reviewing all the TOS episodes, just in case you'd never seen them and needed to know what someone else thought of them. As I said, he's a nice guy, but I do sort of feel that reviewing TOS is like reviewing the bible; if it's not for you, the quality of the individual components won't matter.
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He started out reviewing all the TOS episodes, just in case you'd never seen them and needed to know what someone else thought of them. As I said, he's a nice guy, but I do sort of feel that reviewing TOS is like reviewing the bible; if it's not for you, the quality of the individual components won't matter.
I believe the plan is to continue reviewing all the series, similar to how the guy reviewing B:TAS plans to move on to Superman and Justice League. He's been in TNG for a while now.
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I believe the plan is to continue reviewing all the series, similar to how the guy reviewing B:TAS plans to move on to Superman and Justice League. He's been in TNG for a while now.
There's no concrete plan, but I know Zack is hoping to get DS9 as well.
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The guy who comments on episodes as "Frakes" is the best part of the STTNG reviews. Case in point:
"I got a little confused when we did that one where Michelle Forbes is invisible. Not invisible -- you can't touch her, right? On that one I remember there was a day where I had just come back from a ninety-proof lunch, and I thought my hand would just, y'know, go THROUGH Michelle if I tried to touch her.
So... You know those contests where a bunch of shit-kickers see how long they can keep their hand on a truck, and the last one standing wins it? OK, so it's me, Stewart, Whoopi and Brian Bonsall, each with a hand on Michelle Forbes. I got the left one. Just so you know.
Three hours go by, four hours... The A.D. is going cocoanuts, Sirtis is off in a corner fuming. It's eventually just me and the little Klingon kid, hanging on for dear life. I told him I'd give him a year's worth of back issues of "Swank" if he'd let go. That did it. Game over. Winner: Frakes.
We had never set any terms or anything though. So we just went back to work. Wait -- did I imagine this?"
OR!
"Alright. Generations. The movie with the Christmas part, is this that one? And they're on the horses for the whole third act? Jesus. Well I cashed the paycheck, so I know I was in it. No wait! OK. I remember now. We got to switch into new pajamas halfway through the movie, so there was that.
Look, what do you want me to say? Around the time we made that flick I was living as a short Filipino woman in the harem of a Saudi Arabian sultan. He SAID he was a sultan... turns out he was a video store clerk and we were in Milwaukee the whole time. Long story. Point is my recollection of making Generations is a little thin, although I can tell you exactly what happened on the night of Dorn's birthday party that year."
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Despite my love for bacon, I suck royally at preparing it myself. Not so with turkey bacon, which inexplicably actually costs less than its less-healthy counterpart, which is evidence enough that bacon is the greatest food ever. Seriously, look at all other foods and their healthier replacement options. The healthy crap ALWAYS costs more than the real stuff. But not with bacon. It's like seeing sunlight for the first time when you eat properly-prepared bacon such as from Denny's. Mmm, Denny's. Fortunately, that's one of the places not hit by the tornado, while the International House of Pancakes fared less well.
I tried to account for all the restaurants taken out by the tornado and lost count after the first couple dozen. Imagine, a city with no more Arby's (both were levelled). I can't handle that, man. Fortunately, there's another a quick jog north or I'd be in a worse funk than usual.
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3CL: So these are reviews in the most literal sense; watch a show that was on forty years ago and offer comment. I didn't know you could do that on the Internet...
Geoff: A town without Arby's is indeed a sad sight. We lost our only Schlotzky's about five years ago (it became a Krispy Kreme, then a Chipotle, blegh) and there's no escaping it's a second-rate town now. We only just got Sonic back this summer after a decade's absence.
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3CL: So these are reviews in the most literal sense; watch a show that was on forty years ago and offer comment. I didn't know you could do that on the Internet...
It and academia are really the only places left you can.
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It's my night off in Baltimore and it's raining like there's a fire hose pouring on the city. Satellite TV has been knocked out too. Internet still works though. I guess that's something.
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3CL: So these are reviews in the most literal sense; watch a show that was on forty years ago and offer comment. I didn't know you could do that on the Internet...
The AV Club going back and reviewing TV I loved when I was younger but didn't have an appropriate critical framework to properly contextualize it in is one of the major reasons I love that site. Also, did that sentence say something or was I just babbling? Even I'm not sure....
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Despite my love for bacon, I suck royally at preparing it myself. Not so with turkey bacon, which inexplicably actually costs less than its less-healthy counterpart, which is evidence enough that bacon is the greatest food ever. Seriously, look at all other foods and their healthier replacement options. The healthy crap ALWAYS costs more than the real stuff. But not with bacon. It's like seeing sunlight for the first time when you eat properly-prepared bacon such as from Denny's. Mmm, Denny's. Fortunately, that's one of the places not hit by the tornado, while the International House of Pancakes fared less well.
I tried to account for all the restaurants taken out by the tornado and lost count after the first couple dozen. Imagine, a city with no more Arby's (both were levelled). I can't handle that, man. Fortunately, there's another a quick jog north or I'd be in a worse funk than usual.
I've beard Denny's bacon is quite good. Never got to try it tho, as I alwahs get lost on my way there.
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It's my night off in Baltimore and it's raining like there's a fire hose pouring on the city. Satellite TV has been knocked out too. Internet still works though. I guess that's something.
What are you doing in Baltimore?
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Work. The company I work for is finally ready to spend some money on infrastructure, but they don't know what they have, so it's inventory time!
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Chunga Across America!
I like my bacon soft. Some call it undercooked or disgusting, I call it delicious!
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Work. The company I work for is finally ready to spend some money on infrastructure, but they don't know what they have, so it's inventory time!
Hey, when did the company buy this case of scotch? Well, gotta count it.
One bottle...
Two bottles...
Three bottles...
Four bottles...
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Three bottles...
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Same here. It was a crowded living room.
Be glad it wasn't an Italian Wedding.....
Craig
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Geoff: A town without Arby's is indeed a sad sight. We lost our only Schlotzky's about five years ago (it became a Krispy Kreme, then a Chipotle, blegh) and there's no escaping it's a second-rate town now. We only just got Sonic back this summer after a decade's absence.
The last time I was at a Schlotzky's was several years ago. It was/might still be a ways away from my parent's place in Minnesota. There's two Arby's in the area where I live. One is on the route to the FLGS in Bremerton.
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Chunga Across America!
I like my bacon soft. Some call it undercooked or disgusting, I call it delicious!
And you, sir, are a wise man.
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Soft bacon is yummy bacon.
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Geoff: A town without Arby's is indeed a sad sight. We lost our only Schlotzky's about five years ago (it became a Krispy Kreme, then a Chipotle, blegh) and there's no escaping it's a second-rate town now. We only just got Sonic back this summer after a decade's absence.
I think we lost at least two Sonics, leaving us with like three. Seriously, I guess being this close to OK means we're gonna have at least as many Sonics as McDonald'ses.
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I like my bacon anywhere from crisp to soft-but-not-chewy. Also Applewood smoked is preferred. Thick cut. Peppered bacon is also very good.
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Soft bacon is yummy bacon.
I like mine black and crispy. One of the fesw foods I will eat when overcooked. All other meats products are towards the medium rare side, cooked to the point of edibility.
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I think we lost at least two Sonics, leaving us with like three. Seriously, I guess being this close to OK means we're gonna have at least as many Sonics as McDonald'ses.
Within a mile of where I live (easy walking distance, to build up an appetite and then burn off the calories), I've got two Subways, a Chick-Fil-A, a Black-Eyed Pea, an Applebee's, a Chipotle, A Ruby Tuesday, A McDonald's, a Taco Bell, a Wendy's, a Carl's Jr, a Schlotzky's, a KFC/A&W combo, Panda Express, a Village Inn and three 7/11s to get 'chain restaurant' food. Sadly no Denny's, Arby's, IHoP or Burger King within three miles.
Almost forgot Sonic, where I had a Sausage Breakfast Toaster and Large Onion Rings for breakfast.
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Arby's within one mile of my house. [rockon]
Also, I'm not picky I like Bacon in all it's cooked forms. Actually, I think I have eaten bacon for lunch three times this week.
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I've never been so hungry that I could eat at Arby's.
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I've never eaten at a Sonic; they're very rare in my area of the country. They tried to build one here in Blacksburg, but the town shot it down out of noise concerns.
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It's a drive-in/thru fast food joint, what noise complaints could there be?
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It's a drive-in/thru fast food joint, what noise complaints could there be?
[stupid]
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Yeah, that was basically the attitude of everyone who had actually been to a Sonic that was involved in the debate as I understand it. Fearmongering won the day though.
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Within a mile of where I live (easy walking distance, to build up an appetite and then burn off the calories), I've got two Subways, a Chick-Fil-A, a Black-Eyed Pea, an Applebee's, a Chipotle, A Ruby Tuesday, A McDonald's, a Taco Bell, a Wendy's, a Carl's Jr, a Schlotzky's, a KFC/A&W combo, Panda Express, a Village Inn and three 7/11s to get 'chain restaurant' food. Sadly no Denny's, Arby's, IHoP or Burger King within three miles.
Almost forgot Sonic, where I had a Sausage Breakfast Toaster and Large Onion Rings for breakfast.
I used to have most of those in multiples, but the tornado pretty well took care of that for the foreseeable future.
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I've never been so hungry that I could eat at Arby's.
Then you really should reserve your comments. It's the best fast food chain out there.
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There's a couple I prefer for other things, but I know of no better roast beef place.
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My wife is a Hokie and is confused by the noise a Sonic could generate versus say...football on Saturday, the Kappa Sigma house (nice jab at her husband), beating Duke at Basketball, or the sound of a parade college students carrying goal posts down the street in celebration.
I'm trying to think what fast food/sit down restaurants aren't around Woodbridge/Potomac Mills. The only we don't have is a high endish steak house.
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Then you really should reserve your comments. It's the best fast food chain out there.
I don't like roast beef, so it has little to offer me, I fear.
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Wow, y'all have been busy while I've been busy earning money!
Am I right that all American bacon is the thin stuff that in the UK we call streaky bacon and you don't get the nice big rashers? I always wonder who gets the nice bits of bacon in the US, a bit like Pratchett's question about pork whisker soup - who's getting the good bit(s)?
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I don't like roast beef, so it has little to offer me, I fear.
I can't think of the last time I had their roast beef. I pretty much only order the Market Fresh sandwiches.
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Wow, y'all have been busy while I've been busy earning money!
Am I right that all American bacon is the thin stuff that in the UK we call streaky bacon and you don't get the nice big rashers? I always wonder who gets the nice bits of bacon in the US, a bit like Pratchett's question about pork whisker soup - who's getting the good bit(s)?
We call that Canadian Bacon and put it on pizza. Or just call it ham and put it on sandwiches.
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Am I right that all American bacon is the thin stuff that in the UK we call streaky bacon and you don't get the nice big rashers? I always wonder who gets the nice bits of bacon in the US, a bit like Pratchett's question about pork whisker soup - who's getting the good bit(s)?
Grocery store bacon is usually pre-packaged, thin-sliced bacon, which is fine. However, you can get thick bacon if you go to the deli counter or to an actual butcher shop and request it (depending on your store/butcher, of course).
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As a Canadian I must mention that good Maple Smoked Canadian Bacon is great for more than just pizza. Its great for breakfast gose, good on burgers and a fine replacement for ham in a Chicken Cordon Bleu.
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Thick cut bacon is so good... And ungodly expensive!
As befits my half-assed Irish background I had corned beef and cabbage every St. Patties Day, then I found out that it's actually supposed to be back bacon and cabbage... I never really thought much as to why the Irish would eat a Jewish staple for one of there more important days...
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MMMM Corned Beef, they don't have that here. Which miffs me immensely as i'm fond as heck of the stuff.
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I haven't had a good corned beef sandwich since I left New York. That's a reason to go back!
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Not even a Reuben? I make those every now and then. DE-licious!
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I've never been so hungry that I could eat at Arby's.
Word.
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I like mine black and crispy. One of the fesw foods I will eat when overcooked. All other meats products are towards the medium rare side, cooked to the point of edibility.
You might want to reconsider that. There's some decent research out there that shows overcooked bacon to be a pretty hardcore carcinogen.
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Grocery store bacon is usually pre-packaged, thin-sliced bacon, which is fine. However, you can get thick bacon if you go to the deli counter or to an actual butcher shop and request it (depending on your store/butcher, of course).
Ever tried Beef Bacon? Wow. It's a religious experience.
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Sounds interesting.
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Ever tried Beef Bacon? Wow. It's a religious experience.
Isn't that pretty much what pastrami is? I know it's nicknamed "steer bacon"
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Pastrami! I'd get it warm on a bun with provolone cheese and mayonnaise at the corner deli. Good times.
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You might want to reconsider that. There's some decent research out there that shows overcooked bacon to be a pretty hardcore carcinogen.
Aren't Burnt Crunchy Bits one of the basic products of cookery?
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Ever tried Beef Bacon? Wow. It's a religious experience.
Particularly for Jewish people, one imagines...
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There are times when i give thanks for my somewhat lapsed religious affiliation, anytime i'm about to eat a meat
derived from Pork....would be one of those moments. Though i admit i got seriously bored as child, of having to
eat fish on fridays.
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You might want to reconsider that. There's some decent research out there that shows overcooked bacon to be a pretty hardcore carcinogen.
What doesn't cause cancer these days.
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To be honest i have my vices, and the hell with the worry about it.
I've not been on here much lately, the whole News of the World scandal has been absorbing a lot of my attention.
Probably best i don't go into the whole messy business, but suffice it to say it's been both fascinating and horrifying. In fact
in the UK, it may be a game changer politically eventually. But i should say no more so as not to invoke any wrath from upon
high.
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Another tidbit from Abbey Road passes into history.
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Hey Ed, is Hearts of Iron II worth getting for 10 bucks? Or Hearts of Iron III for 13 bucks? They're on sale on Steam right now and I've been getting myself quite a few games off there recently, and was considering these as well.
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Hey Ed, is Hearts of Iron II worth getting for 10 bucks? Or Hearts of Iron III for 13 bucks? They're on sale on Steam right now and I've been getting myself quite a few games off there recently, and was considering these as well.
Hearts of Iron II Armageddon, CORE Mod 0.4.1. 4 Lyfe.
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Hearts of Iron II Armageddon, CORE Mod 0.4.1. 4 Lyfe.
I may get this too...
Another tidbit from Abbey Road passes into history.
Oh, I take it not my Abbey Road?! (yes, I do live on a Abbey Road in London, no it isn't that Abbey Road)
I feel very sorry for all of you denied proper bacon on a regular basis - many Brits I know simply leave the streaky bits at breakfast etc
Yesterday (Saturday) at the end of my Night Shift I went for a lovely big breakfast at a local cafe - lots of bacon, sausage, egg, chips etc... and I had had steak before heading off to work - it almost made a shift where I didn't stop for long enough to have a drink for 12 hours, let alone anything else, seem worth it!
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I feel very sorry for all of you denied proper bacon on a regular basis - many Brits I know simply leave the streaky bits at breakfast etc
Whoa, dude, you can't feel sorry for us about our food; you come from England. Speaking from firsthand experience, the English breakfast is a war crime. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only reason the English keep eating their own food is to fortify themselves mentally in case ze Germans attack.
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Two words: breakfast burrito. #P
And for those of you wondering, hotels in the US often advertise "Continental breakfast" (meaning bits of bread and spread only) or "American breakfast" (meaning a feast) but never, ever "English breakfast."
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Whoa, dude, you can't feel sorry for us about our food; you come from England. Speaking from firsthand experience, the English breakfast is a war crime. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only reason the English keep eating their own food is to fortify themselves mentally in case ze Germans attack.
What's sadder than regular Stockholm Syndrome?
When the kidnapper is an incorporeal concept, like a nation's uniformly bad cuisine.
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I can't see that **** written about my nations food, and not feel incredibly angry.
Brevity and my sense of manners, along with the rules of this forum....prevent me from making
my displeasure and anger as clear as i would like.
I just feel sad that people feel that way about it, because it's evident they've not been afforded the
opportunity to eat in my country properly.
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In honor of CSfA's new avatar I'd just like to say, "Super Green!"
In other news, the M-48 thread up in Ground Combat has reached your-so-stupid-I-quit-levels. I'm glad I only lurk up there now.
I've never had British food; I can't comment on it. I like Boddingtons.
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In honor of CSfA's new avatar I'd just like to say, "Super Green!"
In other news, the M-48 thread up in Ground Combat has reached your-so-stupid-I-quit-levels. I'm glad I only lurk up there now.
I've never had British food; I can't comment on it. I like Boddingtons.
The M-48 thread makes me want to wear black clothes and play in traffic at night.
I also don't think I've had English food. I would like to try some. It can't be any worse then my mom made...
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I really liked that movie. And I loved Hudson Hawk. But Die Hard was only so-so for me.
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I really liked that movie. And I loved Hudson Hawk. But Die Hard was only so-so for me.
I did too; it is one of the few movies that I don't mind picking up in the middle and will stop to watch on a lazy day.
Hudson Hawk seemed to go musical too soon.
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I can't see that **** written about my nations food, and not feel incredibly angry.
Brevity and my sense of manners, along with the rules of this forum....prevent me from making
my displeasure and anger as clear as i would like.
I just feel sad that people feel that way about it, because it's evident they've not been afforded the
opportunity to eat in my country properly.
As a Scot, I have no comment.
As an aside, didn't Finland and Italy get in a pissing match about food a few years back? :D
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I really liked that movie. And I loved Hudson Hawk. But Die Hard was only so-so for me.
I also enjoyed it. Other than Sandra Bernhardt.
In honor of CSfA's new avatar I'd just like to say, "Super Green!"
I'd rather say; "Corben. Corben, my man. I aint got no fire!" I occasionally pull that one out on a buddy, for no reason. Its the only line of his I can say and sound good, which makes it all the more amusing.
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I sometimes refer to myself as "fuuuuuuled... like FIRE!"
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I really liked that movie. And I loved Hudson Hawk. But Die Hard was only so-so for me.
I could not, for the life of me, make it through Hudson Hawk, to my eternal shame. I've sat through all of Sextette.
In other news: my first experience with an English breakfast in the UK was not a happy one, but they have sometimes been quite good. I do however, love a nice American breakfast, with thin, crispy bacon; I'm not much of a fan of the thicker bacon (which I've always heard called Irish bacon---I'm happy to blame them for it).
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I can't see that **** written about my nations food, and not feel incredibly angry.
Brevity and my sense of manners, along with the rules of this forum....prevent me from making
my displeasure and anger as clear as i would like.
I just feel sad that people feel that way about it, because it's evident they've not been afforded the
opportunity to eat in my country properly.
It's not all bad -- I love Fish and chips when I was over there, and haven't had Yorkshire pudding in eons......But some things never clicked for me.....
Craig
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I can't see that **** written about my nations food, and not feel incredibly angry.
Brevity and my sense of manners, along with the rules of this forum....prevent me from making
my displeasure and anger as clear as i would like.
I just feel sad that people feel that way about it, because it's evident they've not been afforded the
opportunity to eat in my country properly.
*Comiserating pat on the back*
Remember, Rorke. We may have bad cuisine and bad teeth but they're a bunch of geographically incompetant fat bastards. ;)
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*Comiserating pat on the back*
Remember, Rorke. We may have bad cuisine and bad teeth but they're a bunch of geographically incompetant fat bastards. ;)
I say!
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No no, that's a fair cop. Although thanks to GPS the lot of you will be as topsy-turvy as we any day now.
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It's not like they couldn't fix the problem, but the cuisine still treats New World seasonings like they are worth more than their weight in gold.
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As a fat bastard, I resent the 'geographically incompetent' comment...
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As someone who doesn't even know where he is right now, I resent the-
*looks down*
...never mind.
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And, as a geographically incompetent fat bastard, I resent myself for letting it come to this.
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As someone with the FITREPs to prove it, I'm not geographically incompetent because I always "knows where" I am. Unfortunately, I give “great liver fire supportâ€.
As someone with the official picture to prove it, I resemble a keg with legs.
...it might have been the liver
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As someone who is almost skinny (5'8", 160, you be the judge) and quite accomplished at orienteering, land navigation, map reading, compass reading, solar direction finding, and varius other methods of locating myself and getting where I plan to be next, I resent the above blanket-besmirching of Americans generally. As we Southron are wont to do, I blame the damn Yankees. Especially those from the New York and Boston areas. Though to be fair, they can probably read a street map, even through the grease stains of their latest 'meal' of oysters, sauerkraut, and whatever other unpalatable nonsense the poor saps are forced to eat due to a distinct lack of such delicassies as cornbread, barbecue, home grown tomatoes, and so forth.
....thought my tastebuds are widely considered somewhat off. I do, after all, enjoy Spam.
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Grits. That's all I have to say to that...
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I, on the other hand, resent being lumped in with anyone to the east or south of my respective state borders.
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And with just a little a push back over food, we Americans are fighting amongst ourselves? What would our gals in Germany, with their inspirational victory yesterday, say about that?
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My apologies. When did I ever give the impression I was interested in a united front? I had no intention.
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You haven't had your air war to soften the Brits up for the food fight on the ground. :P Either that, or clearly you need Foxbat's help. ;)
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My apologies. When did I ever give the impression I was interested in a united front? I had no intention.
Well Ruby Rhod, you'll be dragged along whether you like it or not.
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Well Ruby Rhod, you'll be dragged along whether you like it or not.
Screaming all the way no doubt.
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Well Ruby Rhod, you'll be dragged along whether you like it or not.
Good stuff, that.
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Screaming all the way no doubt.
As long as is it funny, sure why not?
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As long as is it funny, sure why not?
I had someone, a big film buff, tell me he liked 5th Element until CSfAChris Tucker showed up, on the basis that they started playing for laughs.
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I had someone, a big film buff, tell me he liked 5th Element until CSfAChris Tucker showed up, on the basis that they started playing for laughs.
And didn't most of us feel that way about the Lyran Commonwealth? I felt the same but Ruby Rhod has grown on me over time while the finale has begun to wear. The denouement is fine though.
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The film doesn't work without him. Also, he appears as a voice-over in the second opening.
I have to drive north a bit to get to the South from where I am. There's a diner a stone's throw from here that serves fairly good grits and passable bagel and lox. But they can't get eggs right somehow.
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I had someone, a big film buff, tell me he liked 5th Element until CSfAChris Tucker showed up, on the basis that they started playing for laughs.
I like him as a parody of media "personalities." He has no discernible talent as far as we see, is an amazingly poor interviewer, and spouts sound-bytes constantly. They took a TV star and radio show host and combined them. One of those things that makes the world seem more realized is that entertainment media is still really omnipresent but isn't totally identical.
Also Chris Tucker wearing a dress.
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I thought it was Tucker's second best role. Still find him funnier as Smokey in Friday, but not as outrageous.
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5'10" and 155lbs as of last weigh in (birthday splurging probably knocked it back up a few pounds), and Geography was a subject I did fairly well at.
Of course no one in those days apparently cared about Africa or large portions of Asia, because those are my weak points. I blame the latter on too many teachers having bad memories about Asia (be it 'Nam for most or Korea for a few).
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Hmm, turned my back for a few hours again and look where you all are now!
While I haven't had any bacon for a few days (holds out trembling hand from DTs) I would say that British food has been improving exponentially in quality over the past few years, probably a trend that started a while ago but has really taken off now
Also, as I cannot claim to be thin/healthy and lost a fight with my SatNav on the way to work (I very very rarely drive to work) on Saturday I shan't get involved in this food fight
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Grits. That's all I have to say to that...
Grits is good...
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Grits is good...
Grits is bad...
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And the sun is cold. 8)
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Grits is bad...
You just haven't had MY grits...
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You just haven't had MY grits...
Whoa whoa whoa
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You just haven't had MY grits...
Let's keep things PG-13 here...
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See I was going to go TV-G and quote Flo from 'Alice'.
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See I was going to go TV-G and quote Flo from 'Alice'.
Since you're back in the Capital of the Free World, I'd have to respond with the Senate Auto Insurance commercial.
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Since you're back in the Capital of the Free World, I'd have to respond with the Senate Auto Insurance commercial.
I had to go to YouTube to run that one down. We DVR too much when we watch TV to pay attention to commercials.
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I don't watch TV, so I don't have to worry about commercials.
OTOH, World Wide Bacon Crisis! (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/124172/)
A rise in bacon prices would mean the end of living high on the hog.
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Please excuse me while I go hoard some bacon!
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There. New Adventure Log posted on Dark Light. It's long winded and full of grammar errors and typos but chalk that up to me posting very late after a very long day at work.
And with that, I'm off to bed....
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Damn Ed, did you do everyone's stats for them?
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Alright, so which of you people are on Google+, now that I've got that set up?
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Damn Ed, did you do everyone's stats for them?
I mean, only one other person's. LF did his own, and quite well, I might add. One other guy did his, but I think he never played before, and I suggested he restat to avoid screwing himself. Great character concept, though.
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Edward: Haven't forgot about you. Dealing with stupid apartment calls. If your shower wouldn't turn off, would you A: Call someone as soon as you could? Or, B: Wait 25 hours till the constantly running water annoyed you?
I have Google+, but looking at some of the privacy concerns I'm unsure about it. ignore the parenthesis: j(period)j(period)mccarthy82 at google mail.
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Edward: Haven't forgot about you. Dealing with stupid apartment calls. If your shower wouldn't turn off, would you A: Call someone as soon as you could? Or, B: Wait 25 hours till the constantly running water annoyed you?
If the water stayed perfectly warm, then B.
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I mean, only one other person's. LF did his own, and quite well, I might add. One other guy did his, but I think he never played before, and I suggested he restat to avoid screwing himself. Great character concept, though.
Well, I heard you did at least one other so I was wondering.
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He did mine. I don't have any of the books---in fact, until last week I'd never heard of this game.
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If the water stayed perfectly warm, then B.
No. Before I knew this had been going on for 25 hours, (i mean, I assumed she called me right away) I told her I was going to leave it running (while it doesn't turn off, its only about 20% flow) till maintenance comes in the am. I really didn't feel like shutting the power off and breaking the wall at 9pm. She asked who was going to pay for the electric bill. I said we would. Then she tripped up and told me how it had been running since last night. No dice on the electric bill, you ma'am are a moron.
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This may be the funniest thing I've seen in quite a while. (http://www.photobasement.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/fatbench.jpg)
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Heh.
I really don't like sandblasting, but it beats the alternative.
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Is today a holiday? It should be; it's Patrick Stewart's birthday. If it's not already one, though, I submit today should be the "International Day of Classiness."
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Heh.
I really don't like sandblasting, but it beats the alternative.
As the guy who had to spend a week scraping and Sanding the inside of a 32' Cutter I feel for you
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Is today a holiday? It should be; it's Patrick Stewart's birthday. If it's not already one, though, I submit today should be the "International Day of Classiness."
I feel classier just knowing today is today.
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Hey fellas. What's been happening the last few days? I'm out at an archaeological dig and haven't had access to the grand ole Internet since arriving up here (it's actually been really nice). I'm having a blast digging around in the dirt and mud though.
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Mancow said today is Harrison Ford's birthday. I think that surely makes it an American holiday.
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Heh speaking of the date, I thought I had an appointment at 2pm on the 14th. I've just checked the card to confirm the time and discovered it was 4pm on the 12th!
Oops. #P
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Mancow said today is Harrison Ford's birthday. I think that surely makes it an American holiday.
Indy Joes/Han Solo/Deckard > Cap'n Picard/Charles Xavier. [notworthy]
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Indy Joes > Cap'n Picard & Charles Xavier. [notworthy]
You could've stopped right there.
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Mancow said today is Harrison Ford's birthday. I think that surely makes it an American holiday.
INTERNATIONAL Day. It's like the Geneva Conventions.
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Got my marriage license.
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Passed the blood test, did you?
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Oh, Neko, you're so 1950s.
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They did ask if we were related, and we did reply in unison "yes". We're bad people.
(We are not related.)
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The better answer is, "How closely related?"
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Nah, they just ask us that in Texas.
Also, they cared little enough that I had barely heard of a blood test whatsoever by the time I got married, and it certainly never came up during the preparations for that.
(We are not related.)
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INTERNATIONAL Day. It's like the Geneva Conventions.
Is that when they hold the Parade Day Parade?
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Patrick Stewart isn't classy, he's from Yorkshire! (although I will say my Dad briefly worked with him in the 1970s)
Also, I will restrict my pre-nuptial abuse of Young Edward to Facebook where his betrothed can see
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Only thing we get from Yorkshire are hams.
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... and ham actors....
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... and ham actors....
I believe that was the implication, yes.
For my money, though, I prefer a nice Montreal ham (http://www.williamshatner.com/).
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Passed the blood test, did you?
More like failed the sanity test...... ;D ;D :)) :))
Seriously, 3CL, congrats! [cheers] [cheers] [cheers] O0
Craig
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I've never eaten at a Sonic; they're very rare in my area of the country. They tried to build one here in Blacksburg, but the town shot it down out of noise concerns.
??? Wait, what? I've not been to the 'Burg in a while, but there used to be a sonic over next to where the Buffalo Wild Wings is now. Plus, if you're really hard up for one, there's a Sonic in Roanoke, Bristol and I think one is in Radford as well. Hell, even Norton has a Sonic now. Me thinks you need to get out and explore some more Klep.
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Sonic is where you go when you like your drinks cold, your burgers colder, and your chili dogs smashed beyond all recognition.
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Oh, Neko, you're so 1950s.
Wait, they don't do that any more? I had to have one the first time I got married back in '96. When did this change?
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Sonic is where you go when you like your drinks cold, your burgers colder, and your chili dogs smashed beyond all recognition.
Never had a problem with the burgers, other than being a little on the small side. Never tried the chili dogs though, that's one thing I've never found particularly enjoyable. A hot dog needs more than just chili to be good. You're going to need some relish, mustard, onions and slaw to really make it good.
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Wait, they don't do that any more? I had to have one the first time I got married back in '96. When did this change?
It varies (http://usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/blood_test_requirements/index.shtml) from state to state.
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So you cant get married if you have an STD in those states? Yikes.
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So you cant get married if you have an STD in those states? Yikes.
I think it's to check for consanguinity.
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I think it's to check for consanguinity.
Gotcha, makes more sense.
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??? Wait, what? I've not been to the 'Burg in a while, but there used to be a sonic over next to where the Buffalo Wild Wings is now. Plus, if you're really hard up for one, there's a Sonic in Roanoke, Bristol and I think one is in Radford as well. Hell, even Norton has a Sonic now. Me thinks you need to get out and explore some more Klep.
I wouldn't say I'm hard up for one. I never have reason to go to Radford or Bristol or any other small town around here. I've seen an abandoned Sonic in Roanoke, though I'm told there's one there still in business somewhere there. I'm sure I'll run into one eventually, but in the meantime there's a good steakhouse 2 minutes from where I live. I pretty much only eat fast food when I travel anyway. At any rate, there definitely isn't one in Blacksburg.
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I believe that was the implication, yes.
For my money, though, I prefer a nice Montreal ham (http://www.williamshatner.com/).
Ah. Yes, well, a week of 18 hour days has made me rather slow. @p?
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I don't do corporate jiujitsu, I prefer to see the look on my opponents face when I knife them, it's much more satisfying.
That said when a project manager I've never met face to face denied my equipment order after I spent three months fixing the technical issues he wanted addressed before he would consider approving it, the military brat in me wanted to go full bore burn the bridges hang the body let the crows pick the pieces apart...instead, in what I hope is an increasingly, good sign of forethought and maturity (which after 37 years my wife says is a sign that yes, I am actually "growing up" complete with finger quotes), I went to my boss and explained the situation, and asked for a few minutes of his time. He's a great boss, I love working for him, and he knows when I come in and shut the door, somethings up. He's also like a 12th level black belt in Corporate Jiujitsu.
My boss, who does not get along with said project supervisor, was quite shocked at my language behind closed doors concerning what happened, and then got the most predatory smile I've seen on a human being in quite some time. My boss made a phone call, and a summons was issued. The bad news is this project manager and I are finally going to meet face to face. The good news is I get to be in the room when my manager rips him a new one for pulling what he did.. Although I may have to be drugged to prevent myself from going off, it will be worth it. I'd sell tickets if I could.
Now, where's my whetstone...
Davout
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I think it's to check for consanguinity.
In Arkansas, you can't get married if you PASS. #P
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Uh oh, Ozark-state rumble!
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I think I'll go make some popcorn...
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In Arkansas, you can't get married if you PASS. #P
Wait, aren't you in Missouri? Like they're any better? At least hill billies can claim to be isolated and not have any choice in the matter, what's your excuse? :P
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It varies (http://usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/blood_test_requirements/index.shtml) from state to state.
How odd, it's changed quite a bit then. Tennessee used to have a required blood test as well.
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I don't do corporate jiujitsu, I prefer to see the look on my opponents face when I knife them, it's much more satisfying.
That said when a project manager I've never met face to face denied my equipment order after I spent three months fixing the technical issues he wanted addressed before he would consider approving it, the military brat in me wanted to go full bore burn the bridges hang the body let the crows pick the pieces apart...instead, in what I hope is an increasingly, good sign of forethought and maturity (which after 37 years my wife says is a sign that yes, I am actually "growing up" complete with finger quotes), I went to my boss and explained the situation, and asked for a few minutes of his time. He's a great boss, I love working for him, and he knows when I come in and shut the door, somethings up. He's also like a 12th level black belt in Corporate Jiujitsu.
My boss, who does not get along with said project supervisor, was quite shocked at my language behind closed doors concerning what happened, and then got the most predatory smile I've seen on a human being in quite some time. My boss made a phone call, and a summons was issued. The bad news is this project manager and I are finally going to meet face to face. The good news is I get to be in the room when my manager rips him a new one for pulling what he did.. Although I may have to be drugged to prevent myself from going off, it will be worth it. I'd sell tickets if I could.
Now, where's my whetstone...
Davout
Enjoy yourself Davout, you sound like you've earned this.
One thing that I will say though is that while I used to think that people did actually "grow up" after a while, I don't think it's so much that as it is that most people discover sneakier ways of getting back at people as they get older. Corporate jiujitsu is one such way, but there are as many other ways as there are people. The actual amount of people who are actually, truly mature is an amazingly small number I suspect and getting smaller all the time. Why this is the case is still a mystery to me, but I've seen it too much to doubt that it's happening.
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In Arkansas, you can't get married if you PASS. #P
Silly Laplander. If you'd checked the link you'd know Arkansas doesn't have a blood test. Of course, this is primarily because in most Arkansas towns it's common knowledge who's related to who. Why draw blood when you can just ask grandma? (note: if both parties are asking the same woman, that's a pretty good indicator that they are in fact related. Ofc, those who didn't already realize that will probably never visit this august site. Or, y'know, learn to read.)
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Silly Laplander. If you'd checked the link you'd know Arkansas doesn't have a blood test. Of course, this is primarily because in most Arkansas towns it's common knowledge who's related to who. Why draw blood when you can just ask grandma? (note: if both parties are asking the same woman, that's a pretty good indicator that they are in fact related. Ofc, those who didn't already realize that will probably never visit this august site. Or, y'know, learn to read.)
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FWIW, I only pick on Arkansas because I have family there. And Texas. And Oklahoma. It's practically a trifecta of inbreeding. The only way to top it would be Mississippi or West Virginia by themselves.
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I am rather surprised that this was a widespread enough problem to necssitate legislative intervention in some places.
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I am rather surprised that this was a widespread enough problem to necssitate legislative intervention in some places.
In short, it is safe to say that, unless specific counter-measures are taken, if something can be done, someone, somewhere will do it. The nature of what can and will be done exceeds anything that man is as yet psychologically or morally prepared to live with.
---Alvin Toffler, Future Shock
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It's illegal to hump animals here, but if I buy a new dog the State doesn't check the theoretical dog already own for signs of humping.
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It's illegal to hump animals here, but if I buy a new dog the State doesn't check the theoretical dog already own for signs of humping.
Well, you and the dog can't have kids. Though if you could, I'm sure they'd be beautiful.
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Few days in and I'm learning some of the foibles of archaeology. The site I'm at is Ameri-Indian site that's been looted pretty heavily by the locals. Over the past few days me and a couple of other students have worked hard getting our test unit hole looking good and going deep. Right now we've excavated about 45cm out of a 1 meter square hole, which doesn't sound like much but we are meticulously scraping away with trowels.
We've found a few things in our unit: some bifaces (what most people would call an "arrowhead") and some large chunks of animal bone. The picking is slim though because of the damage done by the looters. Today, however, as one of the guys working on the unit with me got up to grab a ruler to measure the unit depth I happened to look down at where he was sitting. Lo and behold I see just a little shiny bit sticking out of the ground, and in a couple of seconds I pull up one of the most complete and gorgeous bifaces this crew has seen since starting the excavation. Just sitting there on the surface, no digging required.
It could make you just cry sometimes. ;D
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Well, you and the dog can't have kids. Though if you could, I'm sure they'd be beautiful.
Unfortunately for the dog I am saving myself for someone I can pretend is Christina Hendricks.
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Thought for the day: El Camino SS. O0
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So I felt the wife and I have completed enough of our household move to begin breaking out miniatures and organizing my now significantly reduced hobby space. Given how little I paint and how much my wife would like me to do something with the aforementioned minis I figured a fresh start was in order. My goal was to go to the Woodbridge, VA Game Parlor and pick up something AFFS like, paint it, and maybe use it as a new avatar to engender further work through encouragement or ridicule. My plan has already been derailed. The Game Parlor in Woodbridge has closed; not just moved but closed completely with a sign directing customers to their Chantilly store.
Talk about sucking the life out of my painting inspiration.
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Ouch, man, I feel your pain since I only have one game store in my town and they lack Btech minis.
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I think I pissed someone off, but I swear I don't know how.
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So I felt the wife and I have completed enough of our household move to begin breaking out miniatures and organizing my now significantly reduced hobby space. Given how little I paint and how much my wife would like me to do something with the aforementioned minis I figured a fresh start was in order. My goal was to go to the Woodbridge, VA Game Parlor and pick up something AFFS like, paint it, and maybe use it as a new avatar to engender further work through encouragement or ridicule. My plan has already been derailed. The Game Parlor in Woodbridge has closed; not just moved but closed completely with a sign directing customers to their Chantilly store.
Talk about sucking the life out of my painting inspiration.
Eagle & Empire over on Telegraph Rd. (in Alexandria/Kingstown) has some great painting and hobby supplies, a small stock of BT (and will order whatever you want), and several deep gaming tables. Plus, they know how to actually run a business. It's my store of choice for my mini supplies these days.
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I think I pissed someone off, but I swear I don't know how.
If it was me, you didn't.
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I think I pissed someone off, but I swear I don't know how.
You weren't vague, were you?
Ouch, man, I feel your pain since I only have one game store in my town and they lack Btech minis.
It may be karmic since I refused to patronize the un-FLGS in J-ville because he wouldn't put any new CBT product on te shelves. I did manage to pick up two museum scale Zeus models.
GhostBear, I'll keep Empire & Eagle in mind. I take it you weren't a fan of Game Parlor?
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So I felt the wife and I have completed enough of our household move to begin breaking out miniatures and organizing my now significantly reduced hobby space. Given how little I paint and how much my wife would like me to do something with the aforementioned minis I figured a fresh start was in order. My goal was to go to the Woodbridge, VA Game Parlor and pick up something AFFS like, paint it, and maybe use it as a new avatar to engender further work through encouragement or ridicule. My plan has already been derailed. The Game Parlor in Woodbridge has closed; not just moved but closed completely with a sign directing customers to their Chantilly store.
Talk about sucking the life out of my painting inspiration.
I never got to any of the good NOVA places. :-\ Just the little hobby shop at Turnpike in Fairfax, on Pickett Rd and Main St that would order in BT but at the time did not stock any.
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If it was me, you didn't.
Why should I worry about you? I've got more Stealth!
Anyhow it seems I'm not longer to be an option on any survey, under pain of deletion (of the survey).
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How did that get started anyway, assuming it hasn't been lost to the mists of time?
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GhostBear, I'll keep Empire & Eagle in mind. I take it you weren't a fan of Game Parlor?
No, for many varied reasons.
E&E's website (http://www.eagleandempire.net/), in case you wondered.
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How did that get started anyway, assuming it hasn't been lost to the mists of time?
I have my suspicions, but I believe it stemmed from a poster whose name I never mention, lest they appear.
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Vague recollection it was a combo of Yuri Hikado and Wombat.
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Anyhow it seems I'm not longer to be an option on any survey, under pain of deletion (of the survey).
I mentioned how you dislike it, and have quietly suffered with the meme for a long, long time.
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Quiet suffering is what I do best. But I don't know how to trumpet it.
I'm glad to know; my first thought was that Chunga was miffed at me for some reason.
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I think I pissed someone off, but I swear I don't know how.
That diplomat's daughter was my cousin, you sick puppy.
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Your cousin was Dejah Thoris? Well I'll be a monkey's uncle!
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(Note to self, that monkey was Neko's niece).
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Your cousin was Dejah Thoris? Well I'll be a monkey's uncle!
*Looks at Dejah Thoris painting by Joe Jusko on his wall*
Nice.
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Vague recollection it was a combo of Yuri Hikado and Wombat.
Man, i never get any credit! *grumblemutter*
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Gentlemen, I am proud to say that today in Hearts of Iron II (CORE Mod), British tanks under Montgomery reached Konigsberg in December of 1944, supported by Canadian and Republican Spanish troops, while another British thrust under Crocker and O'Connor liberated Warsaw. Best I've ever done in the land war.
It was basically won in June of '44, when Alan Brooke took six divisions and landed amphibiously behind German troops besieging Spain, and then another twenty British and fifty Spanish divisions came crashing over the border, crushing forty German and Slovak divisions, including almost all of the Nazi armor in France. (The 1st SS Leibstandarte survived long enough to be encircled and crushed by Horrocks' 30 Corps near Lorraine.)
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So the Iron Curtain does not really fall in that campaign, then?
Congrats!
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So the Iron Curtain does not really fall in that campaign, then?
Congrats!
Well, Hungary and Romania. But not Albania! I know you were worried.
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Gentlemen, I am proud to say that today in Hearts of Iron II (CORE Mod), British tanks under Montgomery reached Konigsberg in December of 1944, supported by Canadian and Republican Spanish troops, while another British thrust under Crocker and O'Connor liberated Warsaw. Best I've ever done in the land war.
It was basically won in June of '44, when Alan Brooke took six divisions and landed amphibiously behind German troops besieging Spain, and then another twenty British and fifty Spanish divisions came crashing over the border, crushing forty German and Slovak divisions, including almost all of the Nazi armor in France. (The 1st SS Leibstandarte survived long enough to be encircled and crushed by Horrocks' 30 Corps near Lorraine.)
Well done, sounds fun - I have been meaning to look at it on Steam but am distracted enough at the moment to be potentially missing very important deadlines... and I thought it was XXX Corps?
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and I thought it was XXX Corps?
No no no, it's Armeekorps ja? ;)
Interestingly enough, I've actually got an ancestor listed in that game. Generalmajor Adolf von Schell was part of the family that stayed in Germany, while my part of the family, as near as we can tell, was captured by Washington's troops after he crossed the Delaware in 1776. It's actually kind of odd when you first find out that your family is in a game, especially one like the HoI series.
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No no no, it's Armeekorps ja? ;)
It might be on t'other side but it's a British unit :-\
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I know, I'm just messing with Edward. I swear I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he breaks out in hives at merely being in the presence of spoken German.
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I know, I'm just messing with Edward. I swear I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he breaks out in hives at merely being in the presence of spoken German.
Sorry, suffering M-i-L induced sense of humour failure... but she's just left. Not a problem with her really but I'm just tired and a few of her quirks can drive me nuts unless I'm careful/on my game
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Speaking of inane, and mostly insane, Mothers in Law, mine of almost four years (10 if you count the dating time) has just announced a week long excursion to our new humble abode.
Someone. Please. Kill me now.
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Dav, I could share horror stories with you. She is that crazy.
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Get termites. Then have them come and exterminate them. With that big tent thing. Yes, it will be expensive but is it worth it to avoid the MiL?
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Get termites. Then have them come and exterminate them. With that big tent thing. Yes, it will be expensive but is it worth it to avoid the MiL?
Unfortunately, that would also get rid of the FiL, who both the wife and kid miss terribly when we don't see them.
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Hmm. MiL is here now - which means wife and I can leave the kids and escape. See ya suckers! [rockon]
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I feel guilty. We're having lunch with the *iLs today, and my only downside is that it will interrupt my DropShip-painting...
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I feel guilty. We're having lunch with the *iLs today, and my only downside is that it will interrupt my DropShip-painting...
Is it sad that I begrudge you the fact that you have a Dropship to paint more than the fact that you have less-than-terrible inlaws?
Yes, yes it is.
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Don't worry, it's only a fleetscale Lung Wang. I'll probably get it finished before lunch anyway.
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Don't worry, it's only a fleetscale Lung Wang. I'll probably get it finished before lunch anyway.
Yea, that does make me less green.
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The ship's less green too, since I'm currently painting the machine details over the basecoat.
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Well done, sounds fun - I have been meaning to look at it on Steam but am distracted enough at the moment to be potentially missing very important deadlines... and I thought it was XXX Corps?
It is, I just wanted to avoid potentialities for some wag.
Sorry, suffering M-i-L induced sense of humour failure... but she's just left. Not a problem with her really but I'm just tired and a few of her quirks can drive me nuts unless I'm careful/on my game
I'm fortunate in that I get along quite well with my future M-i-L. I even used to get along well with my mom, until I got engaged.
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I think you might get along better with your mother after the wedding. Although, getting her slightly intoxicated before the ceremony might make her slightly more tolerable.
OTOH, I do now feel a little bad for suggesting drugging relatives into compliance.
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I think you might get along better with your mother after the wedding. Although, getting her slightly intoxicated before the ceremony might make her slightly more tolerable.
No, drink makes her much, much worse. She loses her few remaining filters.
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No, drink makes her much, much worse. She loses her few remaining filters.
Sounds like my wife's aunt, who made a complete *** out of herself at the wedding rehearsal dinner.
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Ah, I can't wait to be an old, cranky lush.
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Ah, I can't wait to be an old, cranky lush.
Surely two out of three is enough?
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Ah, I can't wait to be an old, cranky lush.
Well, I'm old and I'm cranky....never could get the lush part down though.....
Craig
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It is, I just wanted to avoid potentialities for some wag.
Spoilsport. I was waiting to make the "Dirty Corps" joke.
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Surely two out of three is enough?
Frankly no, you need the trifecta, as with "filthy stinking rich."
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Frankly no, you need the trifecta, as with "filthy stinking rich."
If it's all the same to you, I'd be satisfied with "filthy rich".
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I'm fortunate in that I get along quite well with my future M-i-L. I even used to get along well with my mom, until I got engaged.
I had the same problem. Problem is, I haven't resolved it yet.
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So, the wife and I invited the MiL and my parents over for a house re-warming next weekend. I write ‘re-warming’ because we lived here three years ago and they’ve seen it before. Anyway, the MiL is huge into passive-aggressive crap with the wife but responds to me, when authoritative, because she’s worked as a civilian employee around Marines for 40+ years. On the flip side, I don’t need my wife in tears because the MiL has made her upset or that I’ve upset the MiL. Good times.
Did I mention this is awkward to type because the wife is three feet away now that we share a desk?
Also, I've a Step-Monster so she rarely figures into the equation...other than the wedding video where it is obvious she and the MiL disagreed on something that bothered neither the wife and I.
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Also, I've a Step-Monster so she rarely figures into the equation...other than the wedding video where it is obvious she and the MiL disagreed on something that bothered neither the wife and I.
I've come to the conclusion that steps are mostly useless, as I also acquired one a few years ago. She's a pushover compared to the #-in-laws.
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I've come to the conclusion that steps are mostly useless, as I also acquired one a few years ago. She's a pushover compared to the #-in-laws.
Actually, for the last 24 years she's been a tremendous friend and supporter. My use of 'Step-Monster' was a nod towards 'St Elmo's Fire' and a reconciliation I, fortunately, never needed. I've never considered her a push-over as I respect my Father's opinion; she's never figured into the equation because we get along.
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Actually, for the last 24 years she's been a tremendous friend and supporter. My use of 'Step-Monster' was a nod towards 'St Elmo's Fire' and a reconciliation I, fortunately, never needed. I've never considered her a push-over as I respect my Father's opinion; she's never figured into the equation because we get along.
Something tells me we acquired our steps at completely different times and under very different circumstances ???
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I can barely understand a word my MiL even says. It's mostly in Tagalog. :D
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I can barely understand a word my MiL even says. It's mostly in Tagalog. :D
Don't you just have a common-law thing going on, though? It's in the wedding planning that this stuff all comes out.
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Awesome game of battletech tonight!
Scenario:
- your jumpship misjumped and found itself in the sink-hole star system of Charybdis. It's basically an astronomical anomaly that sucks-in all nearby mis-juped ships with no way out. The result is a hodge-podge of techology weilded across the solitary planet. Two main factions are (yet unnamed) descendants of Afrikaaners and Quebecois.
The players represent a 3067 era merc unit, most recently arived via mis-jump, who have been contracted by the Quebecois to steal some nuclear weapons being held by the Afrikaaners, thereby tipping the balance of power.
The nukes are only reachable via aerial insertion, except that the Afrikaaners also have a Castle-Brian style orbital defense laser.
So a plan is concocted: a company of mercs will drop on the nukes compound, while a demi company drops on the orbital laser: both deplyed via"toss drop", wherein the dropship describes a ballistic arc over the planetary horizon and ejects the 'mechs prior to crossing said horizon and coming into the laser's field of fire. The 'mechs complete their trajectory and land at the two sites.
Tonight we gamed the Laser site, wherein the mercs land with several pallets of buckets containing binary epoxy. Those with hand actuators recover the buckets and fight their way to the Laser Silo and use the buckets to glue.the silo bay doors shut. Each bucket has a charge which is used to instantly mix and spread the epoxy. A minimum of 3 buckets is required.
Arrayed against them are 16 low-tech fuel-cell based 'Mechs equipped with BAR:5 commercial grade armor, Heavy rifles, rocket Launchers, MGs, and a ballistic equivalent to a medium laser that we dubbed a chain gun: the 25 ton Istavark, 55 ton Eland Eland, and 70 ton Voortrekker.
The trick is that the merc unit packs a lot of weapons that do more than 5 damage, so each it with those is a crit chance, and the Afrikaaner 'mechs are all ballistically armed, with lots of ammo. Meanwhile, the mercs are taking massed Heavy Rifle fire, and RL 20 barrages at short range.
The pallets and merc 'mechs are scattered all over a 2x3 mapset, and face organized lances of Afrikaaner 'mehs.
In our run-through, the 'mercs barely succeeded, but did so, losing only a Starslayer, hunchback, and, Penetrator. The Afrikaaner force was down to 8. 4 of 8 Voortrekkers, 3 of 4 Eland Elands, and 1 of 4 Istavarks. Additionally, 2 more Voortrekkers were badly crippled, one Istavark had no weapons, and one Eland Eland was missing a leg.
Merc Shd 7M, and Wvr 8k were barely holding together, Ghr 6K badly beaten but in good shape, Tdr 7SE and Mad 5t were all but untouched.
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Ed! Love the new title!
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Just saw that as well. Excellent!
Ed! Love the new title!
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My title has yet to be restored. :/
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MDM, I had a buddy who played a variation of that scenario and then ran it for some guys here.
In his version (and the rules he was basing it on) each player built a force with a specific C-Bill value from any era.
The guys here talked one player into "mastering the awesome power of the Urbanmech." (Made the Tir Na Niops Elves all the funnier to me). This guy had a Company of Urbies vs. a Company of SRM infantry (closest equiv. to LAW rockets at the time). He lost. This was because he was taught that if using a 'mech with Jump Jets you must use them every movement phase. And he would jump into hexes he knew had mines.
He finally won the Darwin award (in game) when his scouts found a water source, and a bonus: lots of dead animals all around the watering hole.
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Ed! Love the new title!
What the...ha!
Sounds like an awesome scenario, MDM.
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Speaking of scenarios, I dig the NPCs. Though I picture LF's character's mother as the Lucille Bluth to LF's GOB.
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GOB is a tool. I never liked the character at all. That, and I don't think that Will Arnett is as funny as some people think he is.
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Speaking of scenarios, I dig the NPCs. Though I picture LF's character's mother as the Lucille Bluth to LF's GOB.
Buster.
I dare say the Capellan Confederation/evil thread has pretty much forever exposed the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the "no they're not!" position for all time; it may be a worse defeat for them than the Fourth War. M. Mecha-Anchovy effectively articulated concepts I only felt. Glorious!
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GOB is a tool. I never liked the character at all. That, and I don't think that Will Arnett is as funny as some people think he is.
I think it's part of the point that he's a tool. Almost every Bluth is.
I really like Will Arnett, with some caveats. I thought his recurring role on 30 Rock was phenomenal.
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There is a great deal of willful intellectual dishonesty required of me to uphold the CC's political system in a serious debate. I don't get why they argue the point; I took great pride in being the bad guy as a Capellan. AH, screw it. I'm in space and space is the place.
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There is a great deal of willful intellectual dishonesty required of me to uphold the CC's political system in a serious debate. I don't get why they argue the point; I took great pride in being the bad guy as a Capellan. AH, screw it. I'm in space and space is the place.
Yeah, I have no problem with playing the bad guys in a game; it's a game. And I guess if you swing that way, there's nothing wrong with getting all Method Acting about it. But some of the people in there are making colossal fools of themselves.
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I abandoned that one fairly early.
LF got a special honor on page 1 of the roll call thread.
But seriously, if you dislike seeing people make fools of themselves, whatever are you doing on the Internet?
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I abandoned that one fairly early.
LF got a special honor on page 1 of the roll call thread.
But seriously, if you dislike seeing people make fools of themselves, whatever are you doing on the Internet?
I imagine I'm the entertainment, rather than a spectator.
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As a dog returneth to his vomit, so the fool to his folly.
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M. Mecha-Anchovy effectively articulated concepts I only felt. Glorious!
Mecha-Anchovy? There were clear moments where his statements were veiled moments of labeling and name-calling.
Yeah, I have no problem with playing the bad guys in a game; it's a game. And I guess if you swing that way, there's nothing wrong with getting all Method Acting about it. But some of the people in there are making colossal fools of themselves.
Call me twisted, but association with the CC for me as a player has nothing to do with intelligently "shopping" for factions, and it also doesn't have anything to do with justifying a cause. The Confederation and its situation just get my blood pumping and raring for a fight, and that's what I like. I just spew words on a thread because it's part of defending what I like.
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Call me twisted, but association with the CC for me as a player has nothing to do with intelligently "shopping" for factions, and it also doesn't have anything to do with justifying a cause. The Confederation and its situation just get my blood pumping and raring for a fight, and that's what I like.
So don't make a fool of yourself trying to rationalize it as somehow a nice place, or even benevolent, and play your heart out on the tabletop.
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Buster.
I dare say the Capellan Confederation/evil thread has pretty much forever exposed the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the "no they're not!" position for all time; it may be a worse defeat for them than the Fourth War. M. Mecha-Anchovy effectively articulated concepts I only felt. Glorious!
So there's no "the joke's on them because they don't realize how little I care for William" moment?
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I strongly disagree with Will on the Confederation (and many other things, I'm sure) but he was always very pleasant to me personally.
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So don't make a fool of yourself trying to rationalize it as somehow a nice place, or even benevolent, and play your heart out on the tabletop.
It's not enough, though. They're just metal miniatures and pieces of paper and dice. I have a need to vent my teenage angst on people I deem in need of it, and the Internet is a safe place to do it.
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I strongly disagree with Will on the Confederation (and many other things, I'm sure) but he was always very pleasant to me personally.
You ought to make more time to hang out with us. We're defiling playing all of your favorite light 'Mechs in the campaign right now!
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It's not enough, though. They're just metal miniatures and pieces of paper and dice. I have a need to vent my teenage angst on people I deem in need of it, and the Internet is a safe place to do it.
Couldn't you have just drank and smoked underage, like everyone else?
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Couldn't you have just drank and smoked underage, like everyone else?
Nope, I was busy climbing an academic ladder to nowhere back then.
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Nope, I was busy climbing an academic ladder to nowhere back then.
Ah.
You know, education in the US is looking rather Capellan nowadays: take a test, place into your caste; if you want into another caste, pay for it yourself and good luck getting placed.
Also, in one respect at least, we Draconians are superior to Capellans and Federales both: we don't need to work up any feelings of indignation before crossing a border to beat down an enemy. Sir Edmund Hillary's reason is reason enough for us.
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You're nothing without your ComStar sherpa.
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Ah.
You know, education in the US is looking rather Capellan nowadays: take a test, place into your caste; if you want into another caste, pay for it yourself and good luck getting placed.
That's not what I meant by "nowhere". I'm not ******. I just had no idea what I wanted to do for a career, even -after- I got into a good school.
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You're nothing without your ComStar sherpa.
I'd say more that they peaked way too early.
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Hell, I'm 5 months from 30 and I still don't know what I wanna do when I grow up...
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Hell, I'm 5 months from 30 and I still don't know what I wanna do when I grow up...
Did you waste forty-five thousand dollars realizing that, though?
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No. But so what? If, at the time you thought it worthwhile, it wasn't wasted. If you live your life trying to avoid second guessing yourself you'll never go anywhere.
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Hell, I'm 16 years into a 20 year career and still haven't figured out what I want to do when I grow up.
No. But so what? If, at the time you thought it worthwhile, it wasn't wasted. If you live your life trying to avoid second guessing yourself you'll never go anywhere.
Hear, hear!
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No. But so what? If, at the time you thought it worthwhile, it wasn't wasted. If you live your life trying to avoid second guessing yourself you'll never go anywhere.
Quite so, quite so.
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No. But so what? If, at the time you thought it worthwhile, it wasn't wasted. If you live your life trying to avoid second guessing yourself you'll never go anywhere.
There wasn't so much money wasted as there was...potential. A few years ago, I used the words "could have" a lot. Something to do with being unsatisfied with past childhood.
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It's obviously not the case now, seeing as I am fairly happily employed now, but the doom-and-gloom feelings come back every once in a while and don't go away for at least half a day.
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I was just making a general social comment. And nowadays we don't say "******," we say "direction-challenged."
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I was just making a general social comment. And nowadays we don't say "******," we say "direction-challenged."
My mistake.
It's obviously not the case now, seeing as I am fairly happily employed now, but the doom-and-gloom feelings come back every once in a while and don't go away for at least half a day.
But yeah, I'm currently working on how to make those feelings do some work for me, and as it is right now the usual way they do it is just make me really hot-headed and excessive and harsh.
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Hardly an hour goes by that I don't 'shoulda woulda coulda' and it kept me in a funk for a long time, perpetuating the cycle. A lot of what happened couldn't be helped and it sucks, but, like you said; make it work for you. I didn't spend 45K on school but I spent a lot of money and 5 long, hard years trying to build a business only to realize the futility of it all and walking away when fate finally forced me out.
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Hardly an hour goes by that I don't 'shoulda woulda coulda' and it kept me in a funk for a long time, perpetuating the cycle. A lot of what happened couldn't be helped and it sucks, but, like you said; make it work for you. I didn't spend 45K on school but I spent a lot of money and 5 long, hard years trying to build a business only to realize the futility of it all and walking away when fate finally forced me out.
I'm glad we can relate. Cheers!
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Autoquote NPA?
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50-post/page is how we roll now. As the Chairman I declared it a while back.
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50-post/page is how we roll now. As the Chairman I declared it a while back.
Motion seconded and passed! So sayeth the Macho King!
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Shouldn't you Snap into a Slim Jim to make it official?
Motion seconded and passed! So sayeth the Macho King!
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50-post/page is how we roll now. As the Chairman I declared it a while back.
Motion seconded and passed! So sayeth the Macho King!
Sorry guys, you're foreign diplomats, so you get no vote here. You're welcome to establish a non-standard posts-per-page for your respective dens if iniquity and dissease, if you so desire. ;)
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You know damn well I have never once been diplomatic.
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In the 19th Century you'd hardly have stood out.
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Eh, you know how fashions are cyclic. He's just ahead of his time.
Me, I'm looking forward to the time when people can be eccentric again, instead of institutionalized.
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In the 19th Century you'd hardly have stood out.
Yes I would have. I'm like 6'3".
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Honest Abe has you beat.
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And did he not stand out?
Normally I would say "checkmate" but instead I will say "Yahtzee."
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My new favorite thing? People who misspell "intelligence".
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Sorry guys, you're foreign diplomats, so you get no vote here. You're welcome to establish a non-standard posts-per-page for your respective dens if iniquity and dissease, if you so desire. ;)
Having done so and setting it at 50 poss/page instead of the rdiculous default of 15, I'm at peace.
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Ed, I have to mea maxima culpa. Eggs "over medium" is awesome.
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My new favorite thing? People who misspell "intelligence".
Ha, that's easy enough. "SMRT" :-X
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And here I called it "SAFE"... :D
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Does anyone know if there's a word for a constant state of fatigue and exasperation? I think that's how I'm feeling today.
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Alive?
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If it's just today, it isn't constant. Check back tomorrow. If it persists, call it ennui.
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Does anyone know if there's a word for a constant state of fatigue and exasperation? I think that's how I'm feeling today.
Off going?
I continued my five-year physical process. So far, so good. Now, I need to go running around for a whole bunch of stuff.
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Just an FYI.
I will be going to GenCon afterall.
Force of Nature IIC will be taken care of at home while I'm there.
Force
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Does anyone know if there's a word for a constant state of fatigue and exasperation? I think that's how I'm feeling today.
Ask Geoff. ;)
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I just call it consciousness.
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Alas, I will now not be going to GenCon. (That's bad!)
However, I will be going on a honeymoon instead (that's good!)
It will be in Saint Paul Minnesota (JESUS CHRIST)
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"The Minnesota contains sodium benzoate..."
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I visited the art museum there, but I don't remember whether I enjoyed it. Strange.
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Alas, I will now not be going to GenCon. (That's bad!)
However, I will be going on a honeymoon instead (that's good!)
It will be in Saint Paul Minnesota (JESUS CHRIST)
If its in Minnesota that means there is only one thing she wants to do. Look on the bright side.
I recommend stocking up on peanuts and Gatorade. You'll need the nutrients.
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And don't forget some bug spray to keep the mosquitoes at bay.
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I've never been to Minnesota, as it is Vikings territory, so remain unaware of the bug situation.
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Does anyone know if there's a word for a constant state of fatigue and exasperation? I think that's how I'm feeling today.
My life.
My car and my house's main AC both died sunday. $1150 (incl. a loan from my parents) and an unexcused work absence later...
Good news is the new mechanic was able to diagnose half the damage to my car as being caused by the former mechanics. As in, when they changed my oil, they cross-threaded the drain plug so it would leak, and eventually fall out causing another repair they could fix. Angry doesn't begin to cover what I'm feeling just now.
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Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence. But I can understand the root of your anger with the situation.
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Does anyone know if there's a word for a constant state of fatigue and exasperation? I think that's how I'm feeling today.
I prefer "blue funk" although Churchill referred to this (in his case depression) as "the black dog"
Alas, I will now not be going to GenCon. (That's bad!)
However, I will be going on a honeymoon instead (that's good!)
It will be in Saint Paul Minnesota (JESUS CHRIST)
wow, you lucky thing, I had to endure my honeymoon being in Barbados...
Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence. But I can understand the root of your anger with the situation.
Something I would live my life by... if I could remember it at opportune moments!
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He'll just need quite a bit of bug spray, but not as much in St. Paul.
DEET: Keeps the bugs away, but it melts plastics.
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Alas, I will now not be going to GenCon.
*sigh* I just told MDM last night that everyone was dropping out at the last minute. That makes it nearly unanimous.
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I'm still going. I'll be very upset if I don't meet at least one of you. >:(
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Worry not, Filtvelt will be represented at the GenCon!
I'm uber-excited. I do fear the gamer funk, however...
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I do fear the gamer funk, however...
And that is why Home Town Hero Nathan Fillion created this public service anoucment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCf9M5GsDSs)
It dose use a naughty word though.
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Too funny.
Thanks fltadm!
Force
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I love Nathan Fillion...
Force, and Klep look me up at the 'Con
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Good one FA! ;D
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Worry not, Filtvelt will be represented at the GenCon!
As the guy doing a lot of the Periphery stuff these days, I don't have much bad to say about the youngest member of the fringe.
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As the guy doing a lot of the Periphery stuff these days, I don't have much bad to say about the youngest member of the fringe.
This makes me happy. They have a lot of room to become an interesting realm. A lot of what we love about the Sun's without a lot of the baggage.
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Alas, I will now not be going to GenCon. (That's bad!)
However, I will be going on a honeymoon instead (that's good!)
It will be in Saint Paul Minnesota (JESUS CHRIST)
DADGUMMIT!
I mean, uh, congrats! :)
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This makes me happy. They have a lot of room to become an interesting realm. A lot of what we love about the Sun's without a lot of the baggage.
As a fan of a realm in the Periphery(MH) and of realms that split off from other realms(FWL), I too plan to keep an eye on Filtvelt. They have a lot of potential there.
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Thats how I feel about the Warrior Cabal. Fun for intrigue/RP and lance-sized skirmishes.
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As a fan of a realm in the Periphery(MH) and of realms that split off from other realms(FWL), I too plan to keep an eye on Filtvelt. They have a lot of potential there.
Unfortunately, that potential is severely diminshed by the 3130s as FC shrinks from the 23 worlds at is inception to the 7 of the DA period.
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I am interested it seeing how the "reconquista" plays out. I'm guessing more of a "this isn't all ponies and rainbows, were heading back" then armed intervention but who knows? And seven worlds still isn't the worst, how many do the Space Romans have, before their conquests of the Ilyians?
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This makes me happy. They have a lot of room to become an interesting realm. A lot of what we love about the Sun's without a lot of the baggage.
Or the quality gradeschool education. ;)
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This makes me happy. They have a lot of room to become an interesting realm. A lot of what we love about the Sun's without a lot of the baggage.
How do they plan on taking other people's stuff without the baggage? ??? :P
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Haven't you seen the Three Kings? Baggage simply doesn't have the thread count and tensile strength you're looking for. Steel shipping containers are where it's at.
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I know I only ever seem to post in this thread to bemoan my life...
My room mate. My best friend of 20 years. Greg died tonight.
I was at work, when a coworker ran up to me, she had a text that there were fire trucks at my house. If only. I ran home, found the dogs locked up, cars here and no one in the house. I called public safety, who confirmed a ambulance call.
He was gone before I made it to the hospital. As I was getting out of my car, two friends that were there came out to meet me with the news.
His parents have been notified, and they are on the way down. (Not sure if they were in Chicago or the QC). His friends have been called or are being called.
I tried to go back to work. A supervisor, one I usually consider somewhat hard to get along with asked "what are you doing here?" when I told him what happened.
Now, I'm sitting here, keeping busy to keep from completely losing it. And to keep from dwelling on whether or not I could have said or done anything differently so my friend would still be here.
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My deepest condolences to you.
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We're here with you, man. I'm sorry for your loss.
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I'm sorry guy. Hang in there.
Davout
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Condolences all around.
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Very sorry to hear that. :(
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Condolences and prayers from here.....
Craig
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You have my sympathies for your loss.
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Sorry for your loss, GreenDragon.
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Thank you everyone. I'm trying to keep going and be strong for Greg's parents. But when I'm by myself and stop keeping busy, I fall apart.
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Thank you everyone. I'm trying to keep going and be strong for Greg's parents. But when I'm by myself and stop keeping busy, I fall apart.
And there isn't a thing wrong with that. Before my Mother passed, in '85, she used to remind us of two things: "this too shall pass" and "the sun will come up tomorrow." It isn't much but along with being there for other folks it can help a little.
S/F
Matt
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Deepest condolences, GreenDragon
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Toughts and prayers! :( :(
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To you and his family: my condolences.
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Um, de donde es Rorke? ???
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Condolences, GD.
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Finlandia
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Finlandia
Everybody's a comedian! :P
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Finlandia
England originally, actually.
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My condolences, GD.
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Well, both Melanie and I will be at GenCon, Saturday-Sunday. Hope to see some of you boys there.
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Well, both Melanie and I will be at GenCon, Saturday-Sunday. Hope to see some of you boys there.
AWESOME! Suddenly things look much rosier!
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Sadly me and Ems probably won't be. Due to the hassle we had getting Emma's boss to give her time off in August we've just not been able to find accommodation, at least accommodation ems was willing to enter without a can of Mace or a hazmat suit. :D The back up plan is New York.
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Well, both Melanie and I will be at GenCon, Saturday-Sunday. Hope to see some of you boys there.
Excellent, looking forward to it.
Sadly me and Ems probably won't be. Due to the hassle we had getting Emma's boss to give her time off in August we've just not been able to find accommodation, at least accommodation ems was willing to enter without a can of Mace or a hazmat suit. :D The back up plan is New York.
:(
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Sadly me and Ems probably won't be. Due to the hassle we had getting Emma's boss to give her time off in August we've just not been able to find accommodation, at least accommodation ems was willing to enter without a can of Mace or a hazmat suit. :D The back up plan is New York.
Ah, dammit!
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We had a wake tonight. Some friends who haven't been by for years stopped over. We sat around and told stories for about 5 hours. Might have gone on longer, but everyone has to get up early for the trip to the funeral.
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Just checking in.
Sorry about your lose Green Dragon.
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Sorry, GD.
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Well, both Melanie and I will be at GenCon, Saturday-Sunday. Hope to see some of you boys there.
Great news! I hope to see all of you there.
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G&D is coming? Dulce!
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So for the uninitiated, what should I be bringing, Battletech-wise, to the con?
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So for the uninitiated, what should I be bringing, Battletech-wise, to the con?
I've not been to a Con for many many years but if you want to stand out from the crowd, try bringing deodorant and an understanding of the concept of "personal space"
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My wife indulges most of my hobbies but draws the line at cons. :'(
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A couple days ago we went to a stage production of the Mirror Universe episode of Trek. And yet a gaming con would get me back to being single as fast as saying "but your sister let me do that to her."
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So for the uninitiated, what should I be bringing, Battletech-wise, to the con?
Bring dice and a pencil. Don't need any other stuff, since it is all provided at the games. As a bonus, without having to haul around all the stuff you think you should bring, you're better set to buy stuff you don't have and take it back to your room.
Wise con-goers bring snacks that fit in a backpack easily, like granola bars and such. Get a bottle of soda or water and refill it at the free water stations scattered about the con rather than go broke on $3 bottles in the con center vending machines. Bring cash for the food runs.
That's about all you really need.
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I've not been to a Con for many many years but if you want to stand out from the crowd, try bringing deodorant and an understanding of the concept of "personal space"
Oh my heavens yes.
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I agree on the pencils, but bringing your own dice to gencon is something like bringing your own sand to the beach.
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I'm going the other way for GenCon, bringing nose-plugs.
And the largest bottle of spray deodorant I can find.
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I'm going the other way for GenCon, bringing nose-plugs.
And the largest bottle of spray deodorant I can find.
/me likes this comment.
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You guys could try and start a Gamers for Personal Hygiene guerrilla campaign by letting off massive amounts of deodorant at the con. :D
Or would that be frowned upon?
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I think security would frown on individuals running and screaming while releasing an aerosol in a crowded convention center,
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Just buy a few hundred travel-size soap bars, and hand them out like a religious group handing out flyers at an airport.
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http://www.classicbattletech.com/index.php?action=products&mode=full&id=365
A little provincial, perhaps, but still something to keep the hands from idling for too long. :)
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Filtvelt? I kind of hope you say no, spending money right now is frowned upon...
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Oh, it's only gonna be like five bucks! :)
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Squeeglee! Soon I'll get my first clear look at the Marians since FM:U, and see what
OctavianCassius has been up to... :)
Hey, are you posting this because you wrote it?
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Oh, it's only gonna be like five bucks! :)
With me absconding to GenCon and our wedding 6 weeks later, the "old lady" has come down on gaming purchases. LIKE. A. TON. OF. BRICKS. If only I could somehow pay cash for it...
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Hey, are you posting this because you wrote it?
But of course! :) I don't schill for just any-ol'-body!
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Filtvelt? I kind of hope you say no, spending money right now is frowned upon...
It occurs to me that I'm gonna owe you some gas money anyway...
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Blah. It can wait. I was more or less complaining about our imposed poverty till post-wedding.
Thank you though.
I do hope someone buys my washer and dryer. And dump truck. That would be greaaatttt...
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I'm going the other way for GenCon, bringing nose-plugs.
And the largest bottle of spray deodorant I can find.
Try the coroner's trick of putting Vick's VapoRub under your nose.
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Blah. It can wait. I was more or less complaining about our imposed poverty till post-wedding.
Thank you though.
I do hope someone buys my washer and dryer. And dump truck. That would be greaaatttt...
Wait, you think the imposed poverty is going to improve after the wedding? ;D
This is probably the most time and money you're going to have from now on out. I was told once by a very wise man that the real problem with growing up, getting married and generally becoming an adult is that of the three deciding factors in life, (Time, Money and Desire) I would only be able to choose two at any one time. Generally though, it really only comes down to two things. If you have time, you don't have the money and if you have the money, you don't have the time. Desire really never comes into the picture unless you spend so much time making the money that you kill the desire.
So here's hoping you sell the dumptruck!
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I still think the 'truck would make a great beater for cruising around the neighborhood.
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I'm hoping for an ice cream truck myself.
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Can anyone recommend a good backpack for a 15.6" laptop? I'm looking for one that I can use as my carryon for the flight to Indy, so ideally it'd have space for clothes, toiletries, etc., to spare me the cost of a checked bag (also, I hope to make an earlier flight, and I have lots of experience with lost baggage). Preferably something I can get from Amazon prime.
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Anything by Swiss Gear should be good. This?
http://www.amazon.com/SwissGear-SA1908-ScanSmart-Backpack-Black/dp/B002OHDIWY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311702069&sr=1-1
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I have a swiss gear backpack/computer bag. Three plus years of abuse and it looks and works great. A lot of pockets and storage space.
Davout
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So, I quit my job yesterday. I'd never really intended to be a cop long term, I just needed a paycheck until I could get a teaching job somewhere. While police work is broadly similar to the military service I'd done previously, it turns out that it isn't enough so for me to like it. It hit me over the weekend that, even on the bad days, I enjoyed the subsitute teaching I'd done before I started working for the PD, whereas every day as a cop was just a matter of "How many more hours 'til we go home? How many days until we get paid?". I decided the pay wasn't worth a job I didn't like. So I'm going back to subbing until a full time teaching position opens up. The pay sucks, but I still live at home with my dad, so it's enough. And the hours are better. And it helps, rather than hinders, the volunteer stuff I do with the district varsity soccer program and my church youth group.
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Good on you, AW. It takes courage to make that kind of decision.
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I still think the 'truck would make a great beater for cruising around the neighborhood.
I can pick up mad chicks here with it. It's all about the chrome exhaust stack. Though it takes a, um, certain kind of man to enjoy ladies like that. Plus side (and I emphasis plus!) you can lift the bed up to help them roll out when your done.
It's also a PITA to park. The reverse is kinda funky and it has more blind spots then Ray Charles.
I'm hoping for an ice cream truck myself.
You buy it, and I'll throw in an ice cream machine.
Anything by Swiss Gear should be good. This?
http://www.amazon.com/SwissGear-SA1908-ScanSmart-Backpack-Black/dp/B002OHDIWY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311702069&sr=1-1
I'm looking for one as well, for my new laptop. Thanks!snip
I agree with Edward here, it's all about being able to look yourself in the mirror. That's why I work PT at a library now. I love it and could hardly look at a lawnmower or skid steer anymore.
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I agree with Edward here, it's all about being able to look yourself in the mirror.
See, if I could only find a good old-fashioned barber that wouldn't be a problem.
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I hate the chaos that hits right when I have plans coming up. Nothing can ever go wrong when I have lots of time to deal with it. Bah!
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Ack, only seven days to Gen-KHANNNNNNNNNNNNN!
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Ran my first game tonight as an official agent! Went pretty well, had 4 players come out so I was pretty happy. Was surprised at how well they played. Had a little Wasp on Wasp kick-boxing going and a Falcon actually get to use it's rear facing MGs. Also had a Panther do a DFA, which slowed down play a bit as I had to double check rules, but a good game and they seemed to enjoy it.
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Man I am behind the curve. You have my sincere condolences GD.
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Ran my first game tonight as an official agent! Went pretty well, had 4 players come out so I was pretty happy. Was surprised at how well they played. Had a little Wasp on Wasp kick-boxing going and a Falcon actually get to use it's rear facing MGs. Also had a Panther do a DFA, which slowed down play a bit as I had to double check rules, but a good game and they seemed to enjoy it.
Nice! Light 'mechs: the best 'mechs.
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It's the same with mayonnaise.
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I figured you for a Miracle Whip kinda guy, Neko. I'll stick to my
mustard medium mechs.
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It's the same with mayonnaise.
No mayonnaise is the best mayonnaise.
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Agreed. No mayo good mayo.
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What about Cinco de Mayo
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*sticks his head in the thread*
Hey fellers!
With GenCon only a few days away now I thought I would come down here and see who all here will be attending?
I should be easy to spot. Geoff can tell ya what to look for. 8)
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Meeeeeeeeeeeere!
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*sticks his head in the thread*
Hey fellers!
With GenCon only a few days away now I thought I would come down here and see who all here will be attending?
I should be easy to spot. Geoff can tell ya what to look for. 8)
My wife and I will be flying in on Friday night.
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One Day, when I make a GenCon, I'm wearing my FedSuns shirt and my Hog Hat, because I can. And because it's one of a very few places where I won't look all that odd.
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I'll be there, wearing jeans and a t-shirt, which I know is terribly helpful.
I remember the time I went to Origins. It was my first gaming con, and I was going to be meeting someone there I'd only known online. I asked him what to look for so I'd know it was him, and he said something to the effect of "I'll be the bearded guy that looks like Jesus."
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THAT DID NOT HELP AT ALL.
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Didnt know he had twins did ya?
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I almost got knocked out by Dancing Jesus at a Rusted Root concert back in 95....
I'll be there, wearing jeans and a t-shirt, which I know is terribly helpful.
I remember the time I went to Origins. It was my first gaming con, and I was going to be meeting someone there I'd only known online. I asked him what to look for so I'd know it was him, and he said something to the effect of "I'll be the bearded guy that looks like Jesus."
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THAT DID NOT HELP AT ALL.
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I almost got knocked out by Dancing Jesus at a Rusted Root concert back in 95....
I wasn't aware Rusted Root had made it out of Pittsburgh in '95. What were you doing in the 'Burgh or were they touring?
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Touring, they were in the ATL then.
I wasn't aware Rusted Root had made it out of Pittsburgh in '95. What were you doing in the 'Burgh or were they touring?
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Touring, they were in the ATL then.
Ah, that makes sense then. "Send Me On My Way", used to make an appearance during Saturday night Random Brother Drinking in my fraternity between '92 and '95.
Since, I've no interest in venturing northward to ask anyone anything, particularly after reading the "Act of War" thread, I was hoping knowledgeable folks would have an answer. What are the big time assault 'Mechs circa 3025 for the AFFS and DCMS? I know the Victor for the former but I'm stumped for the DCMS. The MUL isn't proving useful for reviewing by faction.
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Going by the RATs in 3039, the most common assaults(occupying the 5-9 slots) for Kurita are the Awesome, Stalker, Atlas, Battlemaster, and Thug. For Davion, they're the Stalker, Victor, Battlemaster, Atlas, and Awesome. Those are listed in order, so in each group, the one in the middle would be the most common, with the first and last being the least. Obviously there are more, but I didn't feel like typing out the entire RAT. Also, those are the A-rated charts.
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Ah, that makes sense then. "Send Me On My Way", used to make an appearance during Saturday night Random Brother Drinking in my fraternity between '92 and '95.
Since, I've no interest in venturing northward to ask anyone anything, particularly after reading the "Act of War" thread, I was hoping knowledgeable folks would have an answer. What are the big time assault 'Mechs circa 3025 for the AFFS and DCMS? I know the Victor for the former but I'm stumped for the DCMS. The MUL isn't proving useful for reviewing by faction.
Well, According to Xotl's spreadsheets, Kurita is
Stalker 3F, Awesome 8Q, Banshee 3E, Chargers CGR-1A1, Battlemasters, Atlas, then variants of each afterwards.
Davion is:
Stalker 3F, Longbows (?), Victor, Awesome 8Q, Banshee 3E, Battlemaster, then Atlas.
Davout
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Well, According to Xotl's spreadsheets, Kurita is
Stalker 3F, Awesome 8Q, Banshee 3E, Chargers CGR-1A1, Battlemasters, Atlas, then variants of each afterwards.
Davion is:
Stalker 3F, Longbows (?), Victor, Awesome 8Q, Banshee 3E, Battlemaster, then Atlas.
Davout
Sweet, that paints a better picture than staring at TRO 3039. Of course, I could have checked the "F" column in FM: FS but your notes, via Xotl, confirm it. Thanks for the quick turn.
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Those are the 3028 numbers he compiled.
Still puzzled about the Longbows though...
Davout
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Those are the 3028 numbers he compiled.
Still puzzled about the Longbows though...
Davout
Why so? It's a StarCorps design built on Crofton among other places.
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Geoff Swift IS a great man!
it alll comes down to this line from FR: Periphery:"...while a fairly new upstart company, Coalition Armory Inc., has been supplying
RetroTech ’Mechs as a supplement since 3076." You gave Filtvelt 'mechs!
I love you, man!
Also, while I was typing this, our tornado sirens went off. It's sunny not raining and the radar is clear. I thought it was a glitch. Instead we go this from the NWS:
...FUNNEL CLOUDS POSSIBLE THROUGH 630 THIS EVENING...
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL REPORTS OF FUNNEL CLOUDS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DEKALB. WHILE THERE ARE NO SHOWERS OR THUNDERSTORMS IN THE AREA... THESE FUNNEL CLOUDS APPEAR TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPING CUMULUS CLOUDS. THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE THREAT FOR A TORNADO. THE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TORNADO. THEREFORE...THESE FUNNEL CLOUDS WILL LIKELY NOT REACH THE SURFACE.A friend whose a firefighter on the south side of DeKalb saw one.
I didn't even know that this was possible...
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Love the 3025 Victor. It only does one thing, aye, but it does that one thing well.
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Geoff Swift is very good at Snorta.
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It sounds as though Dr. Swift is very good at many things.
OTOH, I saw "Cowboys & Aliens" today. Not a half bad movie, and the Apache remind me a bit of the good Doctor's character in "The Dark Light of Perverted Science."
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...Dr. Swift is very good at many things.
That's what she said.
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That's what she said.
No, TeamNutmeg is good at doing that. He did it all night, in fact.
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Ah, Snorta, mother jokes, sexual innuendos, uncomfortable silences, reprimands by 3CL's mother for language in the presence of ladies... What a night!
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Totally got married today. Totally.
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Totally got married today. Totally.
There's another way of getting married?? ???
Congrats! [cheers] [cheers] [cheers] [cheers] [cheers] [neko]
Craig
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Congrats.
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Congratulations.
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Totally got married today. Totally.
Way to go Edward!
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Enjoy the aftermath.
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Totally got married today. Totally.
[cheers] Congrats Edward!
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Totally got married today. Totally.
Congrats Ed!
Force
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;)
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Totally got married today. Totally.
Congratulations.
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Congrabulations, Edward!
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Totally got married today. Totally.
Congratulations!
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Congrats O0
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Totally got married today. Totally.
You mean formal contract with a girl? That silly old Foundation tradition?
:D
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Totally got married today. Totally.
Pix (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150265959663513) or (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150327026322526) it didn't happen! (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188265_10150265691113513_535153512_7593608_2012573_n.jpg)
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Pix (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150265959663513) or (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150327026322526) it didn't happen! (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188265_10150265691113513_535153512_7593608_2012573_n.jpg)
Seconded.
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Pix (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150265959663513) or (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150327026322526) it didn't happen! (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188265_10150265691113513_535153512_7593608_2012573_n.jpg)
When is the video from? I must ask.
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On a completely unrelated note, many thanks to MDM for coming through on that special item that will surely bring me a lot of pleasure every time I manage to use it.
And let it be here said that "flocking" is just English for "shmutz."
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On a completely unrelated note, many thanks to MDM for coming through on that special item that will surely bring me a lot of pleasure every time I manage to use it.
And let it be here said that "flocking" is just English for "shmutz."
Entirely my pleasure, sirrah. I am proud for you to own the very best of my work to date.
8)
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Totally got married today. Totally.
Congratulations. Which realm are you invading?
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When is the video from? I must ask.
The post-wedding cookout. Despite appearances, I hadn't had much to drink, though Mrs. 3CL and I polished off a bottle of Dom Perignon '00 that night.
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Congratulations. Which realm are you invading?
Minneapolis.
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Brother, you can have it. ;D
Seriously, I wish you guys all the best.
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Minneapolis.
My sister goes to school in St. Paul. Can I arrange a cushy gov't job in your administration?
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My sister goes to school in St. Paul. Can I arrange a cushy gov't job in your administration?
We'll see. I've made a lot of rash promises.
After Minneapolis, we fly into Indianapolis to take GenCon by storm. Geoff, MDM, Snorta is going up with Jimmy and GreatSarcasmo.
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Congratulations! Glad someone's having a good weekend.
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The post-wedding cookout. Despite appearances, I hadn't had much to drink, though Mrs. 3CL and I polished off a bottle of Dom Perignon '00 that night.
...Where was your suit, then?
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...Where was your suit, then?
I changed out of my tux, I didn't want to get mustard on it.
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Pfft. You're supposed to rock the suit all night.
Well, maybe not all night. Eventually you lose the suit, but only to rock something else.
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Pfft. You're supposed to rock the suit all night.
Well, maybe not all night. Eventually you lose the suit, but only to rock something else.
I WAS going to switch to the seersucker, but the bride made a strong case for casual when we changed.
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Suits are my casual dress, thank you.
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You are probably the most dapper fellow on the boards, then.
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Suits are my casual dress, thank you.
I pity you all the more.
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You are probably the most dapper fellow on the boards, then.
I dunno, TeamNutmeg wore a kilt and general service dress to my wedding. Hard to top that.
I pity you all the more.
Whaaaaaat? Suits are fun! I usually wear one to GenCon, though not this year, we're travelling light.
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The clothes make the man.
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Minneapolis.
You know, it's defended by 10,000 Norwegians with lye-soaked codfish dinners.
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Whaaaaaat? Suits are fun! I usually wear one to GenCon, though not this year, we're travelling light.
Good plan, I have a feeling the Caviler is going to be a wee tight. The Vibe would be even worse. And the Buick? Well it has plenty of room but I don't like it leaving the county, much less the state.
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You know, it's defended by 10,000 Norwegians with lye-soaked codfish dinners.
One Demolisher (Arrow IV), one challenge to meet me like men on the largest clear field we can find, one madman locking them in, one minute of artillery fire?
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Suits are my casual dress, thank you.
You're Barney Stinson now?
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You know, it's defended by 10,000 Norwegians with lye-soaked codfish dinners.
Hooray for Lutefisk!
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You're Barney Stinson now?
Power and money got me crazy cocky.
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Now you're Charlie Sheen?
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I'm not sure you follow. He's Vash.
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Except, of course, when I'm not. Sometimes, you gotta take time to be someone else for a while.
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So you're planning on changing back to Vash if the forums get hacked again?
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Now why would I do something like that?
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It's too hot to do anything else, so my wife is entertaining herself by getting songs from south park stuck in my head.
Help me. :'(
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Go read the Teppo article and comment on it, maybe?
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Suffer, Zuggo. }:)
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Teppo? Why didn't anyone tell me!?
On the upside, they moved on from that, and instead decided to listen to disney cartoon theme songs in various languages. Do you have any idea how many languages they translated the Rescue Rangers?
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50?
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Judging by the looped video she found that plays it over and over again in each language, I think that's about right.
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Ugh, what a day back after the wedding. Though it was packed full of busy-ness, I managed to get a good amount of tasks done. That included two successful battery tests, one more so than the other, and troubleshooting a number of headaches that reared their ugly heads. I hope tomorrow is a little leaner on the headaches, given the evening prep and drive...
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Go read the Teppo article and comment on it, maybe?
Is it written in faux-Top Gear style? If so, no.
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No, it's not. I don't do that all the time.
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Woot! Macho Man for Halloween, the wife as Miss Elizabeth. Freak out, freak out.
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Ooh Yeah! ;)
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Woot! Macho Man for Halloween, the wife as Miss Elizabeth. Freak out, freak out.
I would expect mucho slim-jims.
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Feels like 2001 again up north. Happy Dance for War of Reaving though; richly deserved endings for many.
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GenCon has begun with alcohol-laden festivities. Many good folks are here, but many also could not make it for various reasons. We'll try to muddle through without, but it'd sure be better if we could get the whole band back together.
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GenCon has begun with alcohol-laden festivities. Many good folks are here, but many also could not make it for various reasons. We'll try to muddle through without, but it'd sure be better if we could get the whole band back together.
Watch out for Mastergunz, he's a terror at cons. EVERY SINGLE PLACE he visited in San Diego last year shut down, for what I assume was the horror in finding out he'd not be attending.
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Oddly enough about Todd, he's not as tall as I thought he'd be. Apparently, that's a common observation. Still, I expected a seven-foot giant, not someone a good bit shorter than myself! :)
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Oddly enough about Todd, he's not as tall as I thought he'd be. Apparently, that's a common observation. Still, I expected a seven-foot giant, not someone a good bit shorter than myself! :)
I shudder to think how many short jokes were wasted... Also, you may have wanted to view the MechTalk episode with him in it. :P *I* am the big guy... yet I am the smallest man in my family. :(
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I passed out early last night. Hopeing for a better personal showing tonight...
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I hope I'll be able to track you guys down at some point. I'm otherwise occupied for much of tomorrow, but I should be able to spend some time on Battletech Saturday.
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Any of you lads read any good books on the Arab-Israeli wars? I'd like to look at something new and different.
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Any of you lads read any good books on the Arab-Israeli wars? I'd like to look at something new and different.
Arabs at War, by Kenneth Pollack.
Back home from GenCon and Minnesota. Man, what a week! Good to see Team Davion at my wedding, and then Geoff and MDM again at GC, as well as meeting MasterGunz and hanging with Sarcasmo.
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Six Days of War, by Michael Oren, is very in depth.
If you want a "Ground Eye" view, Heights of Courage is OK. It's written by Avigdor Kahalani, who was a Tank Battalion on the Golan in '73.
I've been looking for an English translation book that tells the story from "The Other Side" as it were, there supposed to be a really good one covering the 56 and Six Day Wars written by a Jordanian, but I can't find it.
Failing those, you can always check out:
http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/index.asp
The CARL is the US Command and General Staff College Combined Arms Library.
Click on Digital Library, which should take you here:
http://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/
There, you'll see a listing of the Collections. You can do a variety of searches, as an example, I searched "Israeli" and found this:
http://bit.ly/riELmg (http://bit.ly/riELmg)
You can add as many repositories as you want, and modify the search's as well.
A Note of warning though, some of the older documents they scanned in can be very hard to read.
I used this all the time when I was neck deep in FoW.
Davout
Any of you lads read any good books on the Arab-Israeli wars? I'd like to look at something new and different.
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Arabs at War, by Kenneth Pollack.
Back home from GenCon and Minnesota. Man, what a week! Good to see Team Davion at my wedding, and then Geoff and MDM again at GC, as well as meeting MasterGunz and hanging with Sarcasmo.
Question: are you still married after GenCon? I would have gone but I assumed I'd return to Portland to find myself single.
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Question: are you still married after GenCon? I would have gone but I assumed I'd return to Portland to find myself single.
I am, although it's safe to say Melanie saw all she ever wanted to see of GenCon, and will not be returning.
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Two Words:
Gaming Prenup.
Davout
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Have you tried telling her that Captain Hammer says "it's better the second time." saying anything about the weird stuff is purely optional.
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This weekend I was crowned the 2011 Dust Tactics World Champion. I even got a trophy.
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Congratulations.... I think.
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This weekend I was crowned the 2011 Dust Tactics World Champion. I even got a trophy.
I feel very strongly you should make it into a belt buckle.
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That. Is. MAGNIFICENT.
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I'm finally back home, where I found the tub in the guest bathroom above mine sprung a big leak. :(
GenCon was awesome though. Didn't get to spend as much time with Battletech as I might have liked due to a friend getting a bunch of Magic cards stolen, but I enjoyed meeting those I did.
I got a couple sweet deals, including the Steiner and Kurita sourcebooks for $8 each, and I also bought the original art for the TR1 Wraith and Contract with 21st Centauri Lancers cards from the CCG.
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GenCon was fun but expensive. I had no idea the original paintings by Chaffee would be there. I bought four of them and will have the credit card bill to show for it later! Field Manual Mercenaries Revised and three of the cards: Panther 10k, Command Circuit and Operations Advisory Council. That I also bought an original (non-BT) painting from a different vendor before I learned of the Chaffee paintings only increased the total con cost! Yipes!
Great to meet MasterGunz and Sarcasmo, as well as great to see so many of the old faces returning once more. :)
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I too am back from GenCon.
I missed 3CL and wife, but that happens.
As for the 12 hours of Clan Burrock vs. Clan Steel Viper game that I played the Vipers in, it was a decisive victory!
Steel Vipers with 139 points vs the Burrocks 62. Total stompage by the Steel Viper team guys.
And a big Congrats to Chunga for being the 2011 Dust Tactics World Champion!!!
Force
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Who's going to explain what that means?
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Who's going to explain what that means?
Chunga did a lot of PCP.
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Breakfast of Champions. 8)
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It appears that is a post WW2 game by FFG. congrats on your World Championship
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I was wondering why the boards have been so quiet the last several days. I'm not used to Gencon being so early in August. Glad you all had good times. Hoped you liberated some innocents for those of us Davvies who couldn't make it.
In other news: My local cops are awesome! (Not.)
This guy spotted the expired tag on my rear plates while traveling the other way down a curved hill at a net speed of 50mph at night. I'm impressed.
He then performed an illegal u-turn, followed me for several blocks until I pulled over to force his hand. Sticker expired a week ago, but enforcement doesn't begin until Sept. 1st, so he generously offered me a warning. And then performed another illegal U-turn to head back the way he came.
My personal favorite comment: "Didn't you used to drive a Cadillac?" Referring to Greg's vehicle, still sitting in front of my house. With Greg's death, the BPD Greg Enforcement Squad are going to have to find some other innocent victim to make bogus charges against at random apparently.
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I believe next year it moves back a touch and starts on Geoff Swift Day.
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I believe next year it moves back a touch and starts on Geoff Swift Day.
Swiftmas!
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I believe next year it moves back a touch and starts on Geoff Swift Day.
Two parties in one!
Everybody I met (well, most everybody) was way more awesome then I already thought them awesome. Geoff and Jonathan were excellent breakfast partners.
Also Geoff, I will be by soon to steal your Panther painting! Thanks!
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I've got a question. What makes it so evident that Flitvelt has Panthers? Is there something I'm missing?
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I am, although it's safe to say Melanie saw all she ever wanted to see of GenCon, and will not be returning.
My wife's sentiments, exactly. Which means I won't be, either.
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Ironically, my wife's experience at her only Gencon to date means that we WILL be returning as soon as finances allow.
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My wife's sentiments, exactly. Which means I won't be, either.
Definitely glad I managed to get your signature on my Wars of Reaving then. I'm greatly enjoying it thus far.
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I've got a question. What makes it so evident that Flitvelt has Panthers?
Nothing. The man just loves Panthers.
I suppose they might have some older Succession War-era salvage that was transferred to the interior as newer machines became available.
My wife's sentiments, exactly. Which means I won't be, either.
Then I'm doubly sad I missed the chance to say hi this year.
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Finally getting back to the CBT fora after Gen Con.
Wow, what a great con!!! Frolicity, my wife, had a great time - running Leviathans demos, learning to knit socks (thanks to the kind intervention of the good Dr. Swift), and hanging out with Melanie. I got to run 16 hours of demos and tournaments non-stop on Thursday, ran the Trial of Bloodright on Friday, played Warbirds in Miniature on Saturday, ran a dnd 3.5 dungeon crawl for an assortment of friends on Sat Night, and then played a really neat game called Airship Troopers with 3CL on Sunday Morning. I think I PLAYED more at this Con than in any other Con - at least more games other than Battletech.
Outside of watching Amanda enjoy gaming, my favorite part was definitely Saturday Night's DnD dungeon crawl. The strange combination of 3CL's pedastrous scottish cleric, Freakin_Ninja's chaotic/stupid/senseless Kobold Sorcerer, and Go For the Throat's mission oriented Dwarven Warrior, the evening was a laugh riot. The whole time, Mastergunz was sayingm, "Is DnD really this fun? I may have to get back into it!" Thanks a lot, guys, for letting me run you through that.
One other anecdote: running the grinder on Thursday night, I started off with a damaged Penetrator 4D that had a $5 Catalyst credit bounty on its head. Despite the bounty, none of the players were coming after each other, so I started talking trash and questioning the manhood of the gamers at the table. One guy in particular took me up on the challenge, one of the players from the Trial of Bloodright earlier that day, and came after me in his Firebee. As soon as it got in range, I vaped it with 6xMPL, and gave him his new record sheet - Hammerhands. He came at me again, and I touched off his ammo - still spouting epithets and challenges at him. So I let him pick his next upgrade, a BHK Ku that he was really excited. Meanwhile, other players finally group fire on me and someone kills my Penny, so I come back with a BRZ C3 - which I promptly point at the BHK KU. 2 rounds and a TSM Hatchet to the back later, the guy goes for his 4th 'Mech - Thunderhawk. I'm STILL mouthing off at him, charging towards him under a fullisade of Gauss. He and I duked it out for the rest of the game, taking turns knocking each other over until I finally cored him in the last round of combat. It was glorious. [rockon]
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The strange combination of 3CL's pedastrous scottish cleric
Never proven!
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My wife's sentiments, exactly. Which means I won't be, either.
Too bad. One more reason to wish I could have made it this year.
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I am, although it's safe to say Melanie saw all she ever wanted to see of GenCon, and will not be returning.
Well, crap. I really enjoyed hanging out with her. I wish we'd had more time to do non-con stuff together...and that I hadn't locked her out of the hotel room and then fallen asleep. :-S
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Well, crap. I really enjoyed hanging out with her. I wish we'd had more time to do non-con stuff together...and that I hadn't locked her out of the hotel room and then fallen asleep. :-S
Aw, she liked you guys; I think, though, that with the wisdom of hindsight, GC was perhaps a bit of gilding the lily by that point. So if it's anyone's fault, it's mine, for letting my enthusiasm overwhelm my judgement. I know she was enthused about the possibility of visiting you guys in STL.
That's good, because I'm owed serious gelato at this point.
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GelatoCon 1 next summer, then?
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Gelato Con Caffe!
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It occurred to me on my drive home that Neko is the Woody Allen humor element of Team Davion. I think I am a combination of Sam Kinison and Dennis Leary.
What?
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My wife's sentiments, exactly. Which means I won't be, either.
Sad news, though understandable. I shall lament.
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It occurred to me on my drive home that Neko is the Woody Allen humor element of Team Davion. I think I am a combination of Sam Kinison and Dennis Leary.
What?
So you're the guy driving the pink Cadillac El Dorado?
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Sweet Beelzebub, what the hell did I say or do in that car? It's all a blur and you've got me scared.
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I don't really see Neko as Woody Allen, but he reminds me a great deal of Wes Anderson's self-parody here (http://youtu.be/rbO3BS0Uzm0).
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Is there much coverage of the rioting in London in the US etc?
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I thought every Wes Anderson film was ipso facto self-parody.
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Is there much coverage of the rioting in London in the US etc?
I don't know. I tend to get my international news from the BBC and they're a bit of a biased source on that front for obvious reasons. The AJC webpage has something on it, though.
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I don't know. I tend to get my international news from the BBC and they're a bit of a biased source on that front for obvious reasons. The AJC webpage has something on it, though.
Oh, ok
the social media and local news are quite interesting on this: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=207192798388318292131.0004aa01af6748773e8f7&msa=0&ll=51.558503%2C-0.055275&spn=0.114195%2C0.298691
and
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/9184207.UPDATE__Riots_spread_to_Colliers_Wood_shopping_centres/ - this is very close to my house!
Plus this which is, if nothing else, quite fun to read http://www.facebook.com/pages/Supporting-the-Met-Police-against-the-London-rioters/152937041453243?sk=wall&filter=2
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Is there much coverage of the rioting in London in the US etc?
I've been following it, my smartphone pulls headlines on it pretty regularly.
I suppose The Smiths are getting pretty heavy airplay right now.
I thought every Wes Anderson film was ipso facto self-parody.
Some more than others. The Royal Tenenbaums always seemed to me to be too real to be parody.
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GelatoCon 1 next summer, then?
Yessss!
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I know she was enthused about the possibility of visiting you guys in STL.
That's good, because I'm owed serious gelato at this point.
You're welcome any time! And yes, we need to settle that debt with you. :)
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the social media and local news are quite interesting on this: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=207192798388318292131.0004aa01af6748773e8f7&msa=0&ll=51.558503%2C-0.055275&spn=0.114195%2C0.298691
Dan,
I had no idea it was that widespread. When I visited the Paris in '08 the riots a year or so before were poo pooed as a one or two street affair. Stay safe my friend.
My wife's sentiments, exactly. Which means I won't be, either.
Ben, I read WoR this weekend: good work! I would think more work like that will drag you to more events.
S/F
Matt
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I've been thinking next year those of us going to GenCon should try to arrange a meet-up. I missed a lot of people because I just didn't know when/where I could find people. I was left just trying to read namebadges for the most part.
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When did this rioting start? I'm normally really up on current events, but with GenCon depriving me with sleep, I'm just now getting all caught up. I need to read about this S&P bit as well.
Klep: Good idea, running into at the CGL booth was nice, but something a little less ad-hoc would be nice.
Also, Gelato is the ****.
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Three days ago. This BBC article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14412752) seems to have a good discussion of what caused it.
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As they used to say, "The issue is not the issue."
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I've kind of gotten that impression. There's been a few things over at the BBC that suggest this the shooting was more in the nature of a spark than the underlying cause.
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Yessss!
I'll wear my banana split costume.
Just kidding.
Or am I?
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Sweet Beelzebub, what the hell did I say or do in that car? It's all a blur and you've got me scared.
It was not intended as an insult! :)
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Please. I've been killing spiders since I was thirty.
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I-wait...
...no, even more disturbing is that I can say the same thing, and do so honestly.
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Please. I've been killing spiders since I was thirty.
William F. Buckley had a Boy Wonder?
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Ok, I've decided to have mercy on all the kibitzers here. If you want to know what the heck we're talking about, put annie hall spider into a google box and watch the youtube clip that turns up first.
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Though I am loathe to do so, I kill spiders frequently. Mostly because they're too stupid to avoid falling into the sink from which they cannot escape, but also because they're damn toxic. They stay out of reach and/or sight, and we're good. Get too close? D-E-D. That's right, deed.
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Funny clip. I like Woody Allen but some of his movies get a *bit* tedious.
The Future Mrs. Great Sarcasmo and I have tentatively decided on a honeymoon destination, Arizona. Her best friend lives down there and we've talked about moving that way a time or 3. I figured I should see what it's like first and what 120 degrees of "dry-heat" feels like. Plus we can see the Grand Canyon and such. We'll be road tripping it, so that will also be fun, I've seen little west of IL except for when I flew to TX 16 years ago.
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The Future Mrs. Great Sarcasmo and I have tentatively decided on a honeymoon destination, Arizona. Her best friend lives down there and we've talked about moving that way a time or 3. I figured I should see what it's like first and what 120 degrees of "dry-heat" feels like. Plus we can see the Grand Canyon and such. We'll be road tripping it, so that will also be fun, I've seen little west of IL except for when I flew to TX 16 years ago.
Nice! I love road trips [when I'm not driving, which given the skill imbalance between me and Mrs. 3CL is almost always] and Mel loved driving to Arizona when she did it before we dated.
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Hey all, nice seeing people back from GenCon. I figured this place would be on hiatus last week for that.
So at work we started a minor act of insanity. Instead of spending every fourth night at work, I now do it every third. On the otherhand, we're sitting pretty with watchstanders, so I now have the faint glimmer of hope of being allowed to leave some duty day.
I can have hope, right?
With spiders, I've got a coworker who uses his Airsoft guns to blow them away. #P
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With spiders, I've got a coworker who uses his Airsoft guns to blow them away. #P
I see that ending badly. Buddy shoots spider, misses, BB ricocies and hits the Chief of the Boat in the aft.
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At home off base.
Because they're afraid of letting the civilian DoD police get outgunned, they (officially) won't let us have anything resembling a real gun on base with out several layers of permissions.
And we don't have much of a bug problem usually. I've seen maybe one insect underway after an extended time on patrol.
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Funny clip. I like Woody Allen but some of his movies get a *bit* tedious.
A 'bit' tedious? I find his films unfunny, for the most part. He's got a handful of films I really like, including the excellent Match Point which I was shocked to find was an Allen directed film, but on the whole I am not a fan.
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At home off base.
Because they're afraid of letting the civilian DoD police get outgunned, they (officially) won't let us have anything resembling a real gun on base with out several layers of permissions.
And we don't have much of a bug problem usually. I've seen maybe one insect underway after an extended time on patrol.
I would comment except
A) Would risk being Political
B) Be So wrong it would not be funny.
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I've never seen any of Woody Allen's movies. His comedy is often played on the local radio station, though, and I often laugh at his material.
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I think Woody Allen was a gifted writer in his youth, but he's a sleazy old creapazoid now, and the sound of his voice---his awful, horrible VOICE---awakens some latent bully deep within me and I want to just lay into him with a wrench until he stops twitching.
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You know, I think I'd pay to see that.
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At home off base.
Because they're afraid of letting the civilian DoD police get outgunned, they (officially) won't let us have anything resembling a real gun on base with out several layers of permissions.
And we don't have much of a bug problem usually. I've seen maybe one insect underway after an extended time on patrol.
Wow, that's pretty crazy. We trust these guys with nukes on duty, but pistols on their off hours? Never!
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Wow, that's pretty crazy. We trust these guys with nukes on duty, but pistols on their off hours? Never!
It's harder to nuke an MP into oblivion when you're lit up off-duty.
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I think it has more to do with where you can safly store it , and to prevent barricks room fights from getting too out of hand. And why I did not think of that a few hours ago I don't know. :-[
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I think Woody Allen was a gifted writer in his youth, but he's a sleazy old creapazoid now, and the sound of his voice---his awful, horrible VOICE---awakens some latent bully deep within me and I want to just lay into him with a wrench until he stops twitching.
I once heard that Frank Sinatra offered to Mia Farrow to have Woody Allen badly beaten when the Soony-Yi scandal broke out. She declined, but I sorta wish she hadn't.
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It was all there at the outset. In Manhattan Allen portrays himself as a kind of monster, perhaps inadvertently.
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I once heard that Frank Sinatra offered to Mia Farrow to have Woody Allen badly beaten when the Soony-Yi scandal broke out. She declined, but I sorta wish she hadn't.
Beaten? I heard he was going to call in certain Italian contacts and have Woody go the way of Jimmy Hoffa.
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Beaten? I heard he was going to call in certain Italian contacts and have Woody go the way of Jimmy Hoffa.
Well, that's urban legends for you.
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So, I was checking in RSVP cards today for my wedding and one of my white trash cousins put "+10" on her card. WHAT?! Who does that?!. It's an adult reception and her children are all grown. If she included her children and their spouses, that's, um, 6 or 7. So who the hell are the extra people? And If I could/wanted to invite them, don't you think I would have? This damn wedding stuff is for the birds. I have always maintained my desire for a courthouse wedding and save the money for a honeymoon (or a house)
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I have always maintained my desire for a courthouse wedding and save the money for a honeymoon (or a house)
Thats what my wife and I did, with a small reception afterwards.
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So this is the thread I need to ask for advice on wedding planning if I should for some reason need it. Although the Capellan Confederation-themed plates might be a bit much...
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I have a card up my sleeve to make sure I don't have to be involved with any of the planning.
Step one: Tell her I want a Green Bay Packers-themed wedding.
That's all. Way I see it, I probably just got myself out of any kind of involvement, and if she says yes then it's actually NOT a mistake.
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I actually said I wanted a World Wrestling Federation wedding. I went on to say that I wanted to dress as Jake 'the Snake' Roberts.
Bingo. No more responsibility. (Apart from taking care of the occasional snafu.)
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Not Randy Savage and Miss Elizabeth?
(Also I would refer to my groomsmen as my "offensive line" since their job is to fight the Bride's family).
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Honestly, despite all the frustration I experienced getting to that point, my wedding was amazing and totally worth it. The bride was heartstoppingly beautiful. The casual reception with hot dogs and hamburgers and beers in a park was really nice too, at least for me. And of course it was excellent to have Team Davion present.
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And as the icing on the cake, I understand nobody pounced on your totally drunk sister?
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Not Randy Savage and Miss Elizabeth?
(Also I would refer to my groomsmen as my "offensive line" since their job is to fight the Bride's family).
Shouldn't that be Defensive Line, since they're defending you from said family?
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Wow, that's pretty crazy. We trust these guys with nukes on duty, but pistols on their off hours? Never!
That USN never has trusted sailors with firearms.
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That USN never has trusted sailors with firearms.
Wise
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Shouldn't that be Defensive Line, since they're defending you from said family?
The family is the defensive line, because their goal is to get past the boys on the O-line and get to me. I think the ushers are maybe the safeties? I'm not sure how they fit in to this.
I DO know the bride is the ball, though.
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Just try not to toss her around too much. Spiking in the end zone is probably also not recommended.
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And as the icing on the cake, I understand nobody pounced on your totally drunk sister?
Well, about 90% of the attendees were blood relatives, so yes, that was definitely a bonus.
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Just try not to toss her around too much. Spiking in the end zone is probably also not recommended.
It's actually customary in my family for relatives to kidnap the bride from the reception and pour a bunch of liquor down her before returning her. Not sure what that is a metaphor for.
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You're Spartan?
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You're Spartan?
You only say that because he walks around wearing a small leather posing pouch and half a bottle of baby oil
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You only say that because he walks around wearing a small leather posing pouch and half a bottle of baby oil
Oh, so he's from Fort Collins.
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That USN never has trusted sailors with firearms.
Marines don't either.
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You only say that because he walks around wearing a small leather posing pouch and half a bottle of baby oil
Well I AM the Khan of Clan Homoerotic Panther. Or at least my porn name is.
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Marines don't either.
Good thing too.
Consider the amount of training the USN is willing to give sailors I'm surprised they ever let them handle firearms.
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Well I AM the Khan of Clan Homoerotic Panther. Or at least my porn name is.
I'm disappointed that didn't make into WoR.
Good thing too.
Consider the amount of training the USN is willing to give sailors I'm surprised they ever let them handle firearms.
Ship handling is unsurpassed but I spent an uncomfortable live fire shoot on the back of DDG-51 with two very dangerous JGs.
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More dangerous to themselves than the enemy, were they?
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Pretty much.
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More dangerous to themselves than the enemy, were they?
Muzzle awareness was not the order of the day.
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Total firearms training at RTC Great
Mistakes Lakes: One day class room/simulator, a single session on the range. Annually, one range day per weapon.
And Officers some how get out of having to clean guns, and portions of the training. We don't arm them anyhow unless something special happens where they NEED to be armed. I'd much rather give the Duty Chief the supervisor's pistol anyway.
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Total firearms training at RTC Great Mistakes Lakes: One day class room/simulator, a single session on the range. Annually, one range day per weapon.
And Officers some how get out of having to clean guns, and portions of the training. We don't arm them anyhow unless something special happens where they NEED to be armed. I'd much rather give the Duty Chief the supervisor's pistol anyway.
Hear, hear said the former (unarmed) Landing Force Officer of the Day (LF OOD).
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Oh, friends, the ballad of Awsum the Elemental shall crush your apprehensions and cure your diseases simply by being waved before your nose.
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Qua?
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Qua?
What he said.
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Oh, so he's from Fort Collins.
HUH? I'm less than 2hours away from Fort collins and I've never heard of that particular culltural phenomenon.
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HUH? I'm less than 2hours away from Fort collins and I've never heard of that particular culltural phenomenon.
I was not particularly impressed with the array of buff quasi-hippie yuppie twentysomethings infesting that town when I visited.
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Must have been some bleed over from the nearby People's Republic of Boulder or the city is an advanced stage of being Californicated.
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24 hours, you guys are slackin'.
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I taught my cat to play fetch today. She's a Siamese and I read that they could do that. And viola! She can. For awhile. then she gets bored and wants to be petted. But hey, it counts!
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I taught my cat to play fetch today. She's a Siamese and I read that they could do that. And viola! She can. For awhile. then she gets bored and wants to be petted. But hey, it counts!
My cat comes when you call his name. Generally. Unless he doesn't want to.
My wife drove me to the train for work today. First time ever! I suspect the novelty's already worn off for her, as I woke her up at five.
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My wife drove me to the train for work today. First time ever! I suspect the novelty's already worn off for her, as I woke her up at five.
I can see where that might be a problem for the ol' enthusiasm.
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I can see where that might be a problem for the ol' enthusiasm.
She's not, to put it mildly, a morning person. I'm not one either, but if I want time to run, I need to get to work early.
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What kind of birds did she study? The ones around here are up at dawn or earlier.
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What kind of birds did she study? The ones around here are up at dawn or earlier.
Shorebirds. Also, the alarm woke her cockatiel, which made absolutely nobody happy.
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The laziest birds of them all. The pelican treats the ocean as an all-day, all-you-can-eat buffet and uses that big pouch for browsing smugly while the other birds work twice as hard. Pity the cormorant, with its lesser pouch and reduced wings.
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The laziest birds of them all. The pelican treats the ocean as an all-day, all-you-can-eat buffet and uses that big pouch for browsing smugly while the other birds work twice as hard. Pity the cormorant, with its lesser pouch and reduced wings.
Melanie has many scars from pelican bites. They're apparently rather aggressive.
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Also, the alarm woke her cockatiel, which made absolutely nobody happy.
What's the cat's opinion on the cockatiel?
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What's the cat's opinion on the cockatiel?
They live in separate houses. The cat's opinion on birds is that they are delicious, except for the lungs, which he leaves on the front step.
The cat will not be transitioning into the marriage with me.
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Melanie has many scars from pelican bites. They're apparently rather aggressive.
Suuuuuuuure........ "Pelicans"
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Has anyone the photochops (I made that up just now, pretty pleased with myself) to turn the sun on my avatar into a sword-and-sunburst?
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Suuuuuuuure........ "Pelicans"
Mayhaps someone got "clumsy"?
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Has anyone the photochops (I made that up just now, pretty pleased with myself) to turn the sun on my avatar into a sword-and-sunburst?
Email me the biggest version you have of it?
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Suuuuuuuure........ "Pelicans"
;D
Great minds think alike MDM.
Tell Frolicity that it was nice meeting her at GenCon.
Force
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*snicker* (http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,9175.new.html#new)
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Thats good news
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*snicker* (http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,9175.new.html#new)
+1 Cookie of Cunning.
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Low hanging fruit, MDM.
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*snicker* (http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,9175.new.html#new)
That's just beyond evil MDM. I approve whole-heartedly! [rockon]
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I'm just trying to ascertain if you are being serious or no. Based on the 'snicker', I'm guessing its entirely false. Either way, it fun watching the scurrying.
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It's not in the book if that's what you're asking. Getting GhostBear to facepalm over it, though... that was good.
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So what's the freaking point of a 'mech-mounted magshot? I can't puzzle it out for the life of me.
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I'm still working on that myself, honestly. For vehicles, which don't have CASE that often, a 2 point hit is frequently a much smaller problem than the ammo explosion from an SRM launcher (and might be even with CASE since it usually blows the armor off the rear location), although the increased frequency of Crew Stunned results and more frequently hit locations probably balances out. Under a TacOps optional rule, if your armor is getting thin or you don't see the Magshots being useful in the next turn, you can also turn them off. I'm not entirely sure but weapon explosions may not be as devastating from the standpoint of salvage.
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So what's the freaking point of a 'mech-mounted magshot? I can't puzzle it out for the life of me.
High tech, slightly longer ranged infantry destruction.
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High tech, slightly longer ranged infantry destruction.
They don't have AI, as far as I can tell. So it's just basically knocking off one guy per hit.
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I'd rather have a few light MGs married to an MG array.
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They are also good for taking up machine gun space when you wont be facing infantry like in a Solaris 7 match.
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So what's the freaking point of a 'mech-mounted magshot? I can't puzzle it out for the life of me.
MG damage (against non Infantry units) at SRM range, with the same mass iirc.
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They're also not vulnerable to AMS...not a big bonus, but it's there.
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I know a little bit of blood goes a long way but this has to be the biggest gusher of a nosebleed i’ve had in a long time.
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I don't see why MagShots shouldn't do burst damage to infantry, especially since AP Gauss do. So a little houserule helps out a bit there.
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I don't see why MagShots shouldn't do burst damage to infantry, especially since AP Gauss do. So a little houserule helps out a bit there.
APGR is intentionally a better weapon than the magshot is why.
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Anyone want a megamek 0.35.24 game? My wife is watching True Blood, so now is an ideal time. Say, 3085ish, Kuritans (me) vs. AFFS (you), light or medium lance, small maps? My gmail addy is my first name dot my last name, IM me there.
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GreatSarcasmo put up a fine game, but with a handicap of 500 BV, he was outgunned and out-tonned. Even so, he gave me a good deal of trouble, but I managed to kill three of his 'mechs and cripple the third, with my Jenner -C2 and Panther -16K crippled. My Wight and Panther teamed up to core his pristine Valkyrie -QT2 in the last round with incredibly lucky CT hits from both a PPC and HPPC. Josh's poor Locust was blown away by a mammoth salvo of SRMs, and his Wolfhound was hit by everything I had two turns running. If the Valk hadn't gone down, I think it and his Fire Javelin could have seriously messed me up.
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That Wight is a sick, sick, sick 'Mech. Possibly my favorite Drac mech to date. [rockon]
Come to think of it, it's basically the Drac take on a Hollander.
Except that it doesn't suck.
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GreatSarcasmo put up a fine game, but with a handicap of 500 BV, he was outgunned and out-tonned. Even so, he gave me a good deal of trouble, but I managed to kill three of his 'mechs and cripple the third, with my Jenner -C2 and Panther -16K crippled. My Wight and Panther teamed up to core his pristine Valkyrie -QT2 in the last round with incredibly lucky CT hits from both a PPC and HPPC. Josh's poor Locust was blown away a salvo of SRMs, and his Wolfhound was hit by everything I had two turns running. If the Valk hadn't gone down, I think it and his Fire Javelin could have seriously messed me up.
Josh, next time take better 'Mechs.
Talon, Specter, Jenner 7D, Garm, or Osiris.
Seriously, there's no excuse for Feddies to go wallowing around with pissant Locusts and Wolfhounds. :P
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That Wight is a sick, sick, sick 'Mech. Possibly my favorite Drac mech to date. [rockon]
Come to think of it, it's basically the Drac take on a Hollander.
Except that it doesn't suck.
The Hollander was designed to put as many Gauss rifles on the field as possible and it DID that. It's like you were expecting something more!
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The Hollander was designed to put as many Gauss rifles on the field as possible and it DID that. It's like you were expecting something more!
I've always sort of liked the Hollander if it knows it's role. My favorite Lyran Light/Medium lance is 2 Blitzkriegs, 1 Hollander and 1 Wolfhound.
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That new Blitzkrieg variant is magificent, I might add. 7/11/7 with a HPPC and C3 slave? YES PLEASE.
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Josh, next time take better 'Mechs.
Talon, Specter, Jenner 7D, Garm, or Osiris.
Seriously, there's no excuse for Feddies to go wallowing around with pissant Locusts and Wolfhounds. :P
What is it with you and Jenners in AFFS service? They're not that common! They use Jenners, we use Osirises. Osirii. Whatever. That or Javelins.
Anyway, since it appears the 3rd Crucis are well and truly dead, I need to strip and repaint my guys again. Who should I go with, the 17th Avalon Hussars, or the 1st Robinson Rangers? I'm willing to take suggestions for other units with a history of enmity with the Combine, I find the Capellans to be dull and lame.
EDIT: Also taking suggestions for DCMS opfor units.
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And you'll notice I listed the Osiris. :P
If you have a hate-on for the dracs, the Robinson Rangers definitely have the prettiest scheme. DMM is a respectable choice too, IMO. Also you have the New Ivaarson Chasseurs, and the 7thCL, Fox's Teeth.
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I would hold off until the new Field Report comes out just to be sure that the Third are definitely staying dead.
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I would hold off until the new Field Report comes out just to be sure that the Third are definitely staying dead.
They're still dead in FR: AFFS. The post-Jihad FR?
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Err, Field Manual. My bad.
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What are you looking for in a Combine opfor?
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What is it with you and Jenners in AFFS service? They're not that common! They use Jenners, we use Osirises. Osirii. Whatever. That or Javelins.
Anyway, since it appears the 3rd Crucis are well and truly dead, I need to strip and repaint my guys again. Who should I go with, the 17th Avalon Hussars, or the 1st Robinson Rangers? I'm willing to take suggestions for other units with a history of enmity with the Combine, I find the Capellans to be dull and lame.
EDIT: Also taking suggestions for DCMS opfor units.
Go for the 17th, a house unit, not tied to a march lord. Plus I think 17th Avalon Hussar would look better as a name than Robinson Ranger. (You have to change your name if you go and change your unit. It's a law we passed, just for you.)
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Obviously you should stay in the Crucis Lancers brigade. If we had to call you 17AH or 1RR those would be much more difficult to pronounce. And really, isn't this all about our convenience? :P
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Go for the 17th, a house unit, not tied to a march lord. Plus I think 17th Avalon Hussar would look better as a name than Robinson Ranger. (You have to change your name if you go and change your unit. It's a law we passed, just for you.)
BOSTY!
"Robinson Ranger" does sound a bit like a 31st century porn nom-de-plume.
I can't change my name, though! I'm moving through the stages of grief slowly.
Obviously you should stay in the Crucis Lancers brigade. If we had to call you 17AH or 1RR those would be much more difficult to pronounce. And really, isn't this all about our convenience? :P
None of the other Lancers regiments really sing to me.
What are you looking for in a Combine opfor?
Probably: not Sword of Light (too high profile), not hard to paint, not stuck will all light 'mechs or all old 'mechs, an appropriate enemy for a Davion force.
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In all seriousness, of the two you mentioned I'd go with the Hussars for the same reason Bostwick mentioned. I just don't trust the March brigades.
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I'm naturally going to tout the values of the Avalon Hussar Brigade, but which RCT is up to you. Everyone knows who I pull for, but I have to admit that the 17th and the 22nd are both solid units as well. Well, if the 22nd is still around that is, I haven't seen any of the post-Jihad books yet so I don't know the Brigade's current list of active units.
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FR:AFFS has the 1st, 2nd, 17th, 22nd, and 42nd Avalon Hussars active in 3079.
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FR:AFFS has the 1st, 2nd, 17th, 22nd, and 42nd Avalon Hussars active in 3079.
Yep, as LCTs (gag), if memory serves.
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What about the New Ivaarsen Chasseurs?
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Yep, as LCTs (gag), if memory serves.
It does indeed. The brigade is the primary test bed for the LCT concept.
What about the New Ivaarsen Chasseurs?
The 1st is still around. The 2nd is not.
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Kestrel Grenadiers 8)
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Well, here's my thinking on opfor:
You don't want any free-floaters, because they're either under-equipped, the Proserpina Hussars (been done), the Genyosha (too Stackpole) or Ryoken (not Stackpole enough).
Addendum: is the Amphigean Light Assault group too obscure for your tastes?
You don't want the Otomo because you'll never see them on a border raid.
You don't want the SoL just because.
It sounds like you're in the market for a Regular unit. If so, I can help you narrow down which one. If not, we can reconsider your constraints and plumb the remaining options.
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Were all of the Hussars downgraded to the LCT formation? I thought I remembered someone saying that there were only a couple of units that were LCTs.
On another note, the 2nd Avalon has a fairly storied history of it's own, as I seem to remember it being the first of the modern RCTs.
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The Avalon Hussars are LCTs while the Ceti Hussars are a pair of RCTs.
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It sounds like you're in the market for a Regular unit. If so, I can help you narrow down which one. If not, we can reconsider your constraints and plumb the remaining options.
I think I am. The major issues are finding a scheme I like (not a fan of white, especially since if I go Avalon Hussars, it blends in with their gray coloration) and most of the units that survived the jihad and have khaki schemes seem to be stationed elsewhere.
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How about the 3rd Proserpina Hussars? They're parked at Niles in the DC/OWA/FS border zone and have a reinforced regiment at about 90% strength. A nice green paint scheme.
The units in the neighborhood of the 2nd Avalon Hussars at Markab are the 1st and 5th Sword of Light, the 7th Ghost, and the Ryuken-san. The Swords of Light use the same flat red for all regiments so they're a fairly generic OPFOR you can also reasonably aim at the Lyrans or Bears from the 7th. The Ryuken-san's charcoal gray may or may not be appealing; the lack of accents could make it a generic Ryuken stand-in for other fronts, though.
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I'm a big fan of the 2nd benjamin regulars paint scheme ..
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Me too, but I believe it's classed a light unit.
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The Avalon Hussars are LCTs while the Ceti Hussars are a pair of RCTs.
So the only two RCTs left are the two which weren't traditional RCTs to begin with? Great, just great.
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So the only two RCTs left are the two which weren't traditional RCTs to begin with? Great, just great.
There are a few others as well.
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And you'll notice I listed the Osiris. :P
If you have a hate-on for the dracs, the Robinson Rangers definitely have the prettiest scheme. DMM is a respectable choice too, IMO. Also you have the New Ivaarson Chasseurs, and the 7thCL, Fox's Teeth.
I really like the Robinson Strikers.
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Well my best idea, the 17th Benjamin, is out because of a light color scheme.
I avoided Dieron entirely since I don't know the disposition of those units after the Jihad.
You need Geoff to weigh in, I think. He'll know more about the current state of DCMS affairs than I will.
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So the only two RCTs left are the two which weren't traditional RCTs to begin with? Great, just great.
Wait, aren't the Crucis Lancers brigade all still RCT's?
Also, I think the Field Report has the 17th of Talcott in the Capellan March of all places...not too good a spot for Drac Raids.
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15th Benjamin Regulars is my DCMS unit of choice. Dk Brown on Tan is pretty easy. I also painted up the Akuma to represent Sgt Duane "Kabukiman" Elliason, DCMS.
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Wait, aren't the Crucis Lancers brigade all still RCT's?
Yeah although the 2nd CL which includes the remains of the 3rd CL is operating as 3 independent LCT style commands. The guards are all still RCTs, As are the Deneb Light Cavalry units, The first Robinson, and the March militias.
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That was it. The force mix seems like a real mess right now with units being reduced in strength or forced into LCT formations. Anyone else want the good old days of full regiments?
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So the only two RCTs left are the two which weren't traditional RCTs to begin with? Great, just great.
To clarify something, that answer was aimed specifically at the two Hussars brigades, not the entire AFFS.
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Frankly I think BattleTech military units are small enough as-is. 108-144 is exactly the right number of 'Mechs not to have to worry about faithful representation of the individual members of a unit.
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That was it. The force mix seems like a real mess right now with units being reduced in strength or forced into LCT formations. Anyone else want the good old days of full regiments?
I actually really like the LCT, especially the emphasis on BA. A regiment of Cavalry mounted BA can put a lot of hurt on a lot of people.
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I think the LCT is an interesting concept - small enough to be reasonably manageable, large enough to still be intimidating - but I'd be happier if they used some of them as bases to rebuild some of the RCTs. Like, say, refounding the 3rd Crucis Lancers as an LCT, then growing it to a reinforced LCT before expanding it out to an RCT over the course of a couple of decades.
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I always like Benjamin District Regulars because you could use them to fight Lyran units as well.
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I agree, and why let the perfect be enemy of the good here? Instead of insisting upon perfect fidelity, paint your figures tan and let them represent whichever particular unit suits your needs. Hell, half the Benjamin Regulars use the same insignia, an upturned dagger.
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Yeah, that was something I tried to emphasize with the suggestions about who was nearby.
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I agree, and why let the perfect be enemy of the good here? Instead of insisting upon perfect fidelity, paint your figures tan and let them represent whichever particular unit suits your needs. Hell, half the Benjamin Regulars use the same insignia, an upturned dagger.
I'm anal-retentive about this stuff, man! It just seems unfair to have the Kuritans at the (still largely hypothetical) first Battletech invitational be some Joe No-names.
Ah well. I'm thinking I may go Federated Suns Lancers for Davions, I've always liked those plucky underdogs, and they have a snappy paint scheme.
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Loophole: according to FMDC, 2nd Benjamin has an assault company and is composed of heavy and light 'Mechs. You could therefore field a heavy battalion-sized force in their colors with the understanding that the remainder are featherweights.
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What about a Ghost Regiment for opfor? Not well-equipped enough? Though really I'd say a Ryuken unit.
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I'm anal-retentive about this stuff, man! It just seems unfair to have the Kuritans at the (still largely hypothetical) first Battletech invitational be some Joe No-names.
Ah well. I'm thinking I may go Federated Suns Lancers for Davions, I've always liked those plucky underdogs, and they have a snappy paint scheme.
LOVE the FS Lancers Paint Scheme.
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Josh, next time take better 'Mechs.
Talon, Specter, Jenner 7D, Garm, or Osiris.
Seriously, there's no excuse for Feddies to go wallowing around with pissant Locusts and Wolfhounds. :P
I was in a bit of a hurry to get the game started, considering my "I'm a ******" inability to get set up on the game.
And if I were picking a Drac mech to use as a salvaged unit, it would be, well, you know what it would be.
Also, the Garm?
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I missed that before. Since when is the Wolfhound a pissant?
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Don't know why, but I always enjoy beating down the snakes. My current monthly game is me playing AFFS against the snakes. Can't wait to introduce the Jags to him. }:)
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Don't know why, but I always enjoy beating down the snakes.
They're handily my favorite CBT foes.
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They're handily my favorite CBT foes.
There's something about them I heavily dislike, as a faction, and its not just DFB. ;) Its not a respect for a strong opponent thing, I really like blazing a trail through their burning, shattered hulks.
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Could it be because they are evil, evil people?
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Could it be because they are evil, evil people?
I played Capellan for years before I switched over to the MOC, and will eventually go Cappy again in order to smack down the ROTS. I have no problem playing as the evil side; somebody has to step up and embrace the darkness. 'The Capellans are NOT evil'? Why the hell not? What happened to them since I left? That's what happens when the revisionists are running things.
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Could it be because they are evil, evil people?
Melissa Steiner: Those Kuritans are peculiar.
Hanse Davion: They're ugly. Ugly, ugly people.
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I'm starting to regret painting ALL my DCMS mechs as SoL, but I would rather not strip and repaint them. Which means? MORE MINIs! My Davion mechs are either FSAC ora lance of Assault and a lance of Heavy Guards (which I regret because there PITAs to paint) .
Also, I like the Garm because I'm a fan of un-optimized stuff, which is why I was scratched my head when the esteemed MDM put it is such respected company.
Speaking of paint schemes I'm really hoping some of the Filtvelt units get basic paint info. I'm told their premier mercenary unit "The Thumpers" have a canon scheme listed in one of the many Mercenary Field Manuals, which I don't own. I doubt after too many years they would keep the scheme of the Filtvelt Academy as under the FedSuns or the CrMM.
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I'm told their premier mercenary unit "The Thumpers" have a canon scheme listed in one of the many Mercenary Field Manuals, which I don't own.
Yellow with black trim. The insignia is a white fist on a purple background. The scheme is described as "highly visible."
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Also, I like the Garm because I'm a fan of un-optimized stuff, which is why I was scratched my head when the esteemed MDM put it is such respected company.
The RAC and plasma rifle variants are solid.
Speaking of paint schemes I'm really hoping some of the Filtvelt units get basic paint info. I'm told their premier mercenary unit "The Thumpers" have a canon scheme listed in one of the many Mercenary Field Manuals, which I don't own.
The Thumpers are a D-rated assault battalion, painted yellow with black trim. Zeuses, Atlases, and Banshees predominate; a third of the 40-mech battalion is not assault-class. They were basically formed by Defiance Industries in 3024 to prove Thomas Hogarth right.
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Thumpers, 3rd MAC and Zeta Btn are correct: assaults rule.
The SoL flat red bores me, and so they get my unwanted and unloved Mechs.
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D-Rated? Nice. I can dig the color scheme on the big-ins and I do love me some HOGARTH!!! wall o' steel.
I'm not a fan of the Plasma rifle, but the RAC Garm is a good unit, I had forgotten about it...
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You need Geoff to weigh in, I think. He'll know more about the current state of DCMS affairs than I will.
My advice would be to wait until the Field Manual comes out. :)
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My advice would be to wait until the Field Manual comes out. :)
I dare not hope! Yet...
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If you're not in a hurry to repaint, it's definitely worth waiting for the FM. After all, the writeup in FR:AFFS specifically mentions a promise by Yvonne to reactivate the destroyed Crucis Lancers regiments. It's entirely possible the 3rd exists again by 3085.
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If you're not in a hurry to repaint, it's definitely worth waiting for the FM. After all, the writeup in FR:AFFS specifically mentions a promise by Yvonne to reactivate the destroyed Crucis Lancers regiments. It's entirely possible the 3rd exists again by 3085.
Somehow I doubt it, but softly softly catchee monkee, I s'pose. Maybe somebody liked my little Blakist conference call riff.
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I assume this is FM:3085 or what have you? Similar set up as FM:U?
Which would get me my paint schemes on the Filtvelt! Yay!
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Somehow I doubt it, but softly softly catchee monkee, I s'pose. Maybe somebody liked my little Blakist conference call riff.
Yvonne, however, dictated they changed paint schemes...
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Yvonne, however, dictated they changed paint schemes...
Everywhere I turn, hot red-headed women are telling me what to do!
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Everywhere I turn, hot red-headed women are telling me what to do!
To be envious of another mans woes...
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To be envious of another mans woes...
Exactly! Be glad your redhead doesn't have combat training Edward, that little jewel makes things around here interesting...
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Everywhere I turn, hot red-headed women are telling me what to do!
And how would that be a problem?
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Everywhere I turn, hot red-headed women are telling me what to do!
Ugh, don't remind me.
You know, if you ever feel like a change of scenery, you could keep the same acronym by signing up with the 3rd Caesar's Legion. It's just an idea.
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Ugh, don't remind me.
You know, if you ever feel like a change of scenery, you could keep the same acronym by signing up with the 3rd Caesar's Legion. It's just an idea.
Gotta level with you: I've always loved the Lyran Guard paint scheme, and the 3rd LG's CO is the brother of the former 3rd CL's CO.
Say, does anyone know if the Fennec is scheduled or funded as a mini?
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Doesn't appear to have been from a quick check of the IWM website and the forums here.
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Gotta level with you: I've always loved the Lyran Guard paint scheme, and the 3rd LG's CO is the brother of the former 3rd CL's CO.
Say, does anyone know if the Fennec is scheduled or funded as a mini?
The Zardettos are kind of a big deal over here. Them and the Vosses.
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I should note that I was replying to Neko's post, who was speaking about DCMS units.
Also, Sarcasmo, I think that FM:U had little if anything regarding color schemes.
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The RAC and plasma rifle variants are solid.
Wait, there's a Plasma Garm? Sweet! The original was useful, the RAC nasty against other lights, but a cheap Plasma-toting light? You Davions are covered as far as anti-combined-arms-units is concerned.
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Cheap... not so much. 6/9 LFE.
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I balance by BV, and that's what I meant by cheap(at least, I hope it is). I don't think I've ever done anything with C-Bills, aside from the rules for incorporating support vees into Chaos Campaign.
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The RAC and plasma rifle variants are solid.
/me likes this comment.
In some ways, the Garm 01C is the Feddie variant of the Wight or Hollander. And the 1A2.....so many other light 'Mechs are going to crumble with that kind of heat being dished out.
As far as the Wolfhound goes. It's Lyran, it's slow for a light 'mech with nothing more for an ERPPC (in its best variant, the 3S) to show for being slow (at least the Garm has a Plasma Rifle or RAC, the Wight has an HPPC, and the Hollander has a Gauss), it doesn't jump, and for the BV/Tonnage you paid for it, you could have had a Talon or a Spector - which have better maneuverability, equivalent armor, and decent payload.
Seriously, your Javelin 10N could hose the Wolfhound 3S in a duel - for a full 5 tons less!
The only reason the Wolfhound gets any cred is because Phelan drove it. And no self-respecting AFFS player should field one. :P
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I think that's far from the only reason. The WLF is also rock-solid in L1 play and has a bank of good will built up from that, for one.
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I should note that I was replying to Neko's post, who was speaking about DCMS units.
>sob<
Wait, there's a Plasma Garm? Sweet! The original was useful, the RAC nasty against other lights, but a cheap Plasma-toting light? You Davions are covered as far as anti-combined-arms-units is concerned.
Ask me about our SNPPC/LMG Javelin!
I think that's far from the only reason. The WLF is also rock-solid in L1 play and has a bank of good will built up from that, for one.
It also has an SFE and can take a beating. The inability to jump is the only strike against it, in my book.
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The WLF-2 is still solid up until the latest and greatest. The 3S is where it started going wrong.
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I don't necessarily mind the 3S, it's just not really... a Wolfhound. Like a Thud without triple mediums on one side and a missile rack on the other.
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I don't necessarily mind the 3S, it's just not really... a Wolfhound. Like a Thud without triple mediums on one side and a missile rack on the other.
I have a hard time trusting a Thud that doesn't have triple mediums and an arm-mounted BFG. The 60-RLA is a mockery meant only for those who would mock a weeping child.
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I have a hard time trusting a Thud that doesn't have triple mediums and an arm-mounted BFG. The 60-RLA is a mockery meant only for those who would mock a weeping child.
/me likes this comment.
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Really, the Wolfhound is a passing fair 'Mech. And yes, in the Introductory ruleset, it's pretty darn good. But Battletech is not about just oldschool Level 1, unless you want to go back to whining about DHS. And on the modern battlefield, the modern WLF just doesn't cut it.
If you're a Lyran player and don't understand how to play a light 'Mech, then sure, maybe. But then you'd be better off with something like a Hollander anyhow. If you're a Davion player, for the love of the Six Liberties and the First Prince, man, take a Javelin, Spector, or Talon over a Wolfhound.
Damn Katherine-ists, the lot of you!
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The Talon is a Lyran design, as is the Spector, Nabroleon Bronaparte.
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Bah, details!
I'm on my high horse here, don't confuse me with facts!!!
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Like the Spector, Talon is too fugly to field, and the Javelin...eh. I'll be happier with a PXH-6D or a Wraith or something.
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Like the Spector, Talon is too fugly to field, and the Javelin...eh. I'll be happier with a PXH-6D or a Wraith or something.
Well, sure, we'd ALL prefer to field Mediums if we had the chance.
Except maybe Edward.
But if you've GOT to take Lights.....
And how can you NOT call the Wolfhound Fuggly? It looks like it came straight out of an early 80s video game, before they had developed the technology to handle curved lines!!!
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I just like light 'mechs because when I inevitably lose them, my teammates are less upset than if they had been heavier designs.
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Interesting. Now if only you could get the enemy to underestimate and perhaps ignore you, there could be some real potential there.
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Interesting. Now if only you could get the enemy to underestimate and perhaps ignore you, there could be some real potential there.
The problem is that they usually exactly estimate my potential, and then safely ignore me.
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Perhaps you could try being worse? Or at any rate, doing things unpredictable?
I've had success with light mechs simply by running around the battlefield stabbing the wounded. Perhaps your role could be to attack the enemy's plan moreso than his mechs.
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In my games, inflicting head trauma is frowned upon.
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Thumpers, 3rd MAC and Zeta Btn are correct: assaults rule.
The SoL flat red bores me, and so they get my unwanted and unloved Mechs.
Dare you forget the Assault Guards in the Davion thread? Blasphemer!
As for the Thumpers, check out Camospecs: http://www.camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=2774 (http://www.camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=2774)
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Dare you forget the Assault Guards in the Davion thread? Blasphemer!
As for the Thumpers, check out Camospecs: http://www.camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=2774 (http://www.camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=2774)
They look like an extreme limeade commercial come to life. Not IK's best work.
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No offense to the artist, but that is quite possibly the most hideous shade of yellow I've ever laid eyes upon.
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No offense to the artist, but that is quite possibly the most hideous shade of yellow I've ever laid eyes upon.
It looks a lot like green to me...
In my head they looked more like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_wasp_white_bg.jpg
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I love the Spector mini. I think it's a great 'Mech...
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I love the Spector mini. I think it's a great 'Mech...
The art is good and the design is fine, but the mini is a bit squat. It's always been of the opinion that fast 'Mechs should look fast.
(http://www.camospecs.com/images/schemes/17_36f.jpg)
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Dare you forget the Assault Guards in the Davion thread? Blasphemer!
And proud of it. Damn the status quo and the conventions!
As for the Thumpers, check out Camospecs: http://www.camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=2774 (http://www.camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=2774)
The Macho Man approves of that shade of neon green. OH YEAAAHHH. [rockon]
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Well, sure, we'd ALL prefer to field Mediums if we had the chance.
Except maybe Edward.
But if you've GOT to take Lights.....
And how can you NOT call the Wolfhound Fuggly? It looks like it came straight out of an early 80s video game, before they had developed the technology to handle curved lines!!!
GOT to take lights? What the hell sort of Battletech do you people play? :P
The WLF is fantastic looking to me. Its the curved Mechs that I dislike, by and large. I like my mechs properly slab-sided.
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I have a hard time trusting a Thud that doesn't have triple mediums and an arm-mounted BFG. The 60-RLA is a mockery meant only for those who would mock a weeping child.
To be fair, the child was weeping *because* of the mockery. There were no tears when it started.
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To be fair, the child was weeping *because* of the mockery. There were no tears when it started.
Very true.
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I balance by BV, and that's what I meant by cheap(at least, I hope it is). I don't think I've ever done anything with C-Bills, aside from the rules for incorporating support vees into Chaos Campaign.
I can see that. My balance tends to come down to fiddling with it, nudging this, removing that, until the forces are about equal, but that's usually in MegaMek, where minor problems like miniature availability, looking things up, the other players getting frustrated and impatient (when Chanman's not helping do it himself, anyway), and other trifles aren't an issue.
Really, the Wolfhound is a passing fair 'Mech. And yes, in the Introductory ruleset, it's pretty darn good. But Battletech is not about just oldschool Level 1, unless you want to go back to whining about DHS. And on the modern battlefield, the modern WLF just doesn't cut it.
It gets the job done for me fairly decently. Of course, until recently, I was looking at throwing a WLF-1 into a mixed Level 1/Level 2 battlefield where it replaced a Commando mainly by being tougher and more likely to be salvageable.
They look like an extreme limeade commercial come to life. Not IK's best work.
It kind of reminds me of those godawful green buses, the ones they made because School Bus Yellow wasn't visible enough.
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I use BV2 to balance, but I also keep track of headcappers on each side and total tonnage and armor factor, as those can skew the result if you don't pay attention. The guys who run events at GenCon track those as well as, IIRC, ECM and jumping, and maybe some other stuff too, which is a smart play.
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To be fair, the child was weeping *because* of the mockery. There were no tears when it started.
And this is why you're the Patron Saint of Team Davion.
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Oh no, it was MDM that done the deed.
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Well, sure, we'd ALL prefer to field Mediums if we had the chance.
Except maybe Edward.
But if you've GOT to take Lights.....
Got to take lights? Me thinks you've been spending too much time in the 1FSAC. Give me a Valkyrie or Javelin any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Oh no, it was MDM that done the deed.
Darn tootin'.
And I whooped pretty loud this year when I shot the same kid's Berzerker out from under him with a Penetrator.
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Darn tootin'.
And I whooped pretty loud this year when I shot the same kid's Berzerker out from under him with a Penetrator.
Wait, what's this now? I haven't heard this story yet.
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In other news, I have STILL not made any headway with regards to the guy who hit my car.
Everyone I talk to claims they're not liable - and I'm still out a car. *grumblemutter*
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In other news, I have STILL not made any headway with regards to the guy who hit my car.
Everyone I talk to claims they're not liable - and I'm still out a car. *grumblemutter*
That sucks, man.
Changing gears, do you want to tell the story of how you CRUSHED a child and made him cry as you trampled his dreams, MDM, or may I?
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That sucks, man.
Changing gears, do you want to tell the story of how you CRUSHED a child and made him cry as you trampled his dreams, MDM, or may I?
Gladly, I was unaware it was being called for.
Actually, no, it'll be fun to hear you tell it.
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It looks a lot like green to me...
In my head they looked more like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_wasp_white_bg.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_wasp_white_bg.jpg)
To be fair, the one in the back of MercSup1 looks more like a school bus.
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Wow. That Atlas looks like one of those hi-vis fire trucks from the late 80s. If I do a lance of them up, I'll stick with a shade of paint with the word 'yellow" in it. Though it will still be way crappier then IKs work.
I chose the WLF-2 because, well, I like it. It's as close to a Panther as I could chose while playing AFFS. The -2 was really a solid design up until the early 3060s, but yes, is now dated.
The Garm I like because everybody says it sucks. It's like a mini-Centurion. I actually like the -B version with the Large Laser better, but all will do. I just have no luck with Plasma Cannons.
Again, I chose what I did because I was in a hurry and those were the first designs that popped in my head. If we do this again, I will have a lance of well-thought out, wholly Davion mechs.
MDM, I had an S-10 totalled by a private snowplow like 9 years ago. There were enough parts left over that I was able to determine it was a late 80's Custom Deluxe K series. The cop took all parts and went on his way. I then found the culprit a few weeks later, called the cops and they did...nothing. Except write me a parking ticket. I only had liability insurance on it, so I was out of a car for a few months. Nothing like being 20 and getting dropped off at work and school by your mom...
I hope the Police and insurance company can get to the bottom of everything for you!
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I bought a REALLY nice house today.
That is all...
Force
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I bought a REALLY nice house today.
That is all...
Force
Hell Yah! Way to go Force!
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I fell off the Earth for a bit, not that i believe I was missed (like missing the pepper on Chicken Alfredo, it's a very subtle loss).
Kimberly, the mother of my children has been frighteningly ill, with some sort of rapid-onset bacterial infection. She's on two different targeted antibiotics, and will be taken to the ER if there's not a notable improvement in the next 12 hours for emergency surgery.
If i come off as off for a bit, that's why. I was over at her place for the last 4 days or so, keeping the wheels on the cart.
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I fell off the Earth for a bit, not that i believe I was missed (like missing the pepper on Chicken Alfredo, it's a very subtle loss).
Kimberly, the mother of my children has been frighteningly ill, with some sort of rapid-onset bacterial infection. She's on two different targeted antibiotics, and will be taken to the ER if there's not a notable improvement in the next 12 hours for emergency surgery.
If i come off as off for a bit, that's why. I was over at her place for the last 4 days or so, keeping the wheels on the cart.
Wow. I hope things improve! Good thoughts your way, sir!
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Mine as well. That's terrible to hear.
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Hope all works out for the best, Chris.
Dave, awesome news! I'm sure you'll want to hold a big CBT housewarming party, right? ...right?
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Hope all works out for the best, Chris.
Dave, awesome news! I'm sure you'll want to hold a big CBT housewarming party, right? ...right?
I hope she recovers quickly from the antibiotics and that surgery is not needed Liofan. My thoughts are with you also.
As for the CBT houswarming party Ed, I have already been planning for one, but first I need to close on the house and then move into it first.
Force
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Hell Yah! Way to go Force!
Thanks greatsarcasmo.
Force
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Isn't the traditional Davion housewarming party to invade the CapCon again or was it any available neighbor? I'd love to see Sarna again, but I'm thinking I could use a nice Tauran Steak about now.
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Welcome to the Homeowners Club, Force.
Hope she gets well soon LF.
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I bought a REALLY nice house today.
That is all...
Force
Awesome. It's another Geoff Swift Day miracle!
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I bought a REALLY nice house today.
That is all...
Force
Doesn't that officially classify you as 'mature' (if not 'old')?
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When I found myself buying a house, I went home and built myself a pillow fort that was actually a machine gun nest.
Maturity, he calls it...bah.
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Awesome. It's another Geoff Swift Day miracle!
Happy Birthday 97jedi.
Force
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Welcome to the Homeowners Club, Force.
Hope she gets well soon LF.
Thanks, but the first house I owned for 14 years and sold this year in three months.
My wife and I have looked at nearly 60 homes in the last two months before finding the one we bought today.
Thank you again though.
Force
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Doesn't that officially classify you as 'mature' (if not 'old')?
Hey, there is no need to spread rumors....
;)
You are only "old" if you act like it and I try not to.
;)
Force
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Happy Birthday 97Jedi
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Liaofan - best wishes for a speedy recovery
Force - congratulations, I'm (hopefully) nearly there with my first house purchase
97jedi - oops, I seem to have missed Swiftmas, you must have given Facebook a false date of birth as it didn't remind me. To me, this means you clearly weren't "born" but perhaps cultured in a lab or Iron Womb?
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I don't know if any of you other that 3CL will care, but today the MND will anounce that Maritime Command, Land Force Command and Air Command will be renamed the Royal Canadian Navy, The Canadian Army, and The Royal Canadian Air Force.
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I don't know if any of you other that 3CL will care, but today the MND will anounce that Maritime Command, Land Force Command and Air Command will be renamed the Royal Canadian Navy, The Canadian Army, and The Royal Canadian Air Force.
I saw, and suffice it to say I'M VERY EXCITED
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I care, but in the opposite way.
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I care, but in the opposite way.
Just one of the many reasons I don't care about you!
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Just one of the many reasons I don't care about you!
Someone needs a hug.
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Is their army not good enough to be Royal like the other branches, or is it full of folks who care in the same way Doug does?
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I don't think the British Army is "Royal" either, being the red-headed stepchild of their force structure for most of it's existence... There are some Royal units, but as a whole... meh?
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Actually the lack of a British Royal Army goes back to the English Civil War IIRC. I may be way off on this one, and if I am I'm sure Edward or one of the other Brits on here will correct me, but after the defeat of Charles I, the Royal Army was disbanded and forbidden to use the "Royal" title any longer. Individual units can and still do use the Royal title, but not the Army itself.
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97jedi - oops, I seem to have missed Swiftmas, you must have given Facebook a false date of birth as it didn't remind me. To me, this means you clearly weren't "born" but perhaps cultured in a lab or Iron Womb?
I don't let Facebook show my personal info.
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For much of history, The Army never exsisted as an entity, but was a colection of Indaviduly rasied regiments, under a commen leader. As time went by thing became much more integrated but tradition remains the same.
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I don't let Facebook show my personal info.
You mean you haven't fully given in to the might of Facebook?! Succomb, it's fun :D
I don't think the British Army is "Royal" either, being the red-headed stepchild of their force structure for most of it's existence... There are some Royal units, but as a whole... meh?
For much of history, The Army never exsisted as an entity, but was a colection of Indaviduly rasied regiments, under a commen leader. As time went by thing became much more integrated but tradition remains the same.
Pretty much, we still don't really have a standing Army - it has to be voted for each year as a separate law as an army loyal to the Crown alone was seen as a tool of oppression (a Royal Navy was a seen as a tool of oppressing other people and hence a Good Thing)
Many of the Regiments and Corps that make up the Army are Royal, like the Royal Artillery and Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, but many are not, such as the Army Air Corps and The Rifles
The Army is still considered a collection of Regiments and Corps rather than a single unified entity in the way that the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force are - a soldier's loyalty to their Regiment is supposed to be far more enduring than that of a sailor to their ship I believe (at least historically)
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In many way, I wish the US Army followed such a philosophy, but nobody does anymore. Even the National Guard units, who are, unless federally mobilized, not even technically a part of the 'Big Army' act as though they're just part of one continuous entity.
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In many way, I wish the US Army followed such a philosophy, but nobody does anymore. Even the National Guard units, who are, unless federally mobilized, not even technically a part of the 'Big Army' act as though they're just part of one continuous entity.
Being a part of something big can be great for people's self esteem etc but my understanding is that a Regiment is more like a family
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Being a part of something big can be great for people's self esteem etc but my understanding is that a Regiment is more like a family
I've been a 10th Marines guy since I was a 2ndLt and can vouch for that sentiment. It can be especially difficult when you're told that you've to shut down a battalion during the next FY. Even worse when you are handing the bulletin that directs the shutdown to one of your best friends regarding his command. We knew it was coming but it still was painful. His leadership, to maintain a focus versus dispondency, has been tremendous.
S/F
Matt
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Wiki has a good write up on the pros and cons of both.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiment
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I don't know if any of you other that 3CL will care, but today the MND will anounce that Maritime Command, Land Force Command and Air Command will be renamed the Royal Canadian Navy, The Canadian Army, and The Royal Canadian Air Force.
I thought they were already the Royal Canadian Navy, The Canadian Army, and The Royal Canadian Air Force...Unless this is New Zealand we're talking about..... ??? ??? ??? ???
Craig
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The names where "put in reserve" when the three services where combined to creat the Canadian Forces in the 1960's
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Kimberly, the mother of my children has been frighteningly ill, with some sort of rapid-onset bacterial infection. She's on two different targeted antibiotics, and will be taken to the ER if there's not a notable improvement in the next 12 hours for emergency surgery.
LF, I wish you only the best.
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I hope things are improving LF.
I fell off the Earth for a bit, not that i believe I was missed (like missing the pepper on Chicken Alfredo, it's a very subtle loss).
Kimberly, the mother of my children has been frighteningly ill, with some sort of rapid-onset bacterial infection. She's on two different targeted antibiotics, and will be taken to the ER if there's not a notable improvement in the next 12 hours for emergency surgery.
If i come off as off for a bit, that's why. I was over at her place for the last 4 days or so, keeping the wheels on the cart.
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I thought they were already the Royal Canadian Navy, The Canadian Army, and The Royal Canadian Air Force...Unless this is New Zealand we're talking about..... ??? ??? ??? ???
Craig
Nope, Combined Forces Command since Pierre Trudeau's day.
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Well all the work was done Pre-Trudeau and was truly implement just months befor he became PM
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So, first Combine company for a very tentative future game:
Light Lance:
Panther
Wight
Jenner
Jenner
Pursuit Lance:
Mad Cat III
Wolverine
Grand Dragon
Wolf Trap
Assault Lance
Charger
Hatamoto-Chi
Sunder
Warhammer
Thoughts?
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I'd swap the Charger for the Panther, unless it's one of the lame, later variants of the Charger that can't move fast. If so, then swap the Panther for the Wolf Trap.
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I'd swap the Charger for the Panther, unless it's one of the lame, later variants of the Charger that can't move fast. If so, then swap the Panther for the Wolf Trap.
It's the -KMZ, which is slow but jumpy.
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The Army is still considered a collection of Regiments and Corps rather than a single unified entity in the way that the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force are - a soldier's loyalty to their Regiment is supposed to be far more enduring than that of a sailor to their ship I believe (at least historically)
Coming from a Naval family tradition, I find that hard to believe.
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I'd swap the Charger for the Panther, unless it's one of the lame, later variants of the Charger that can't move fast. If so, then swap the Panther for the Wolf Trap.
Needs more Panther.
All honesty that looks like a pretty solid DCMS company.
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Honestly, my opinion of the company depends heavily on the specific variants of the 'Mechs in question. But if you list those I can give a much more detailed appraisal.
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Light Lance:
PNT-12K2 Panther
WGT-1LAW/SC Wight
JR7-C2 Jenner
JR7-C3 Jenner
Pursuit Lance:
Mad Cat III
WVR-9K Wolverine
DGR-7K Grand Dragon
WFT-2B Wolf Trap
Assault Lance
CGR-KMZ Charger
HTM-27U Hatamoto-Hi
Sunder E(?)
WHM-8K Warhammer
I'm thinking of dropping the Hatamoto-Hi and Panther for a more capable and a faster 'mech, respectively.
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Yea, that 10K2 Is a bit slow for that lance. I would instead replace the Wights and Jenners with more Panthers. It's the only logical solution.
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Yea, that 10K2 Is a bit slow for that lance. I would instead replace the Wights and Jenners with more Panthers. It's the only logical solution.
I think I'd drop the Panthers from this entirely and use them as the "light" lance in an assault company.
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3CL - do you not want an Akuma or No-Dachi?
Charlie6 - I'm afraid I made reference to you and your BattleTech fire support doctrines in the VotW for the Challenger
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3CL - do you not want an Akuma or No-Dachi?
I do; there are, however, three companies in a battalion.
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I do; there are, however, three companies in a battalion.
I thought it was between 3 to 5 companies depending on structure and role?
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I thought it was between 3 to 5 companies depending on structure and role?
My father's house has many mansions.
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Draconis Combine lights I would replace a Wight with:
(Unless I wanted a machine that wasn't pug-fugly).
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It's a major step up from the new Panther art. On the other hand, so's an animatronic pug after a few hits from the ugly stick.
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It's a major step up from the new Panther art. On the other hand, so's an animatronic pug after a few hits from the ugly stick.
The Panther and he Wolfhound or both bad but nothing is as ugly as the art on the Ebony and the Brahma.
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I steadfastly maintain the Ebony looks suspiciously like a hooded Klansman.
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Shhh! Don't say that so loud! Everyone will want one!
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Shhh! Don't say that so loud! Everyone will want one!
The FRR got the Ghost Bears, the OA got the Snow Ravens, but the MoC was late to the bandwagon and had to take what they could get.
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The FRR got the Ghost Bears, the OA got the Snow Ravens, but the MoC was late to the bandwagon and had to take what they could get.
Sure did and they ended up with the Capellans :)
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The Greater Humanity is still human, cur.
Heh.
It's nice to dust off the old flamethrower, occasionally.
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Yea, that 10K2 Is a bit slow for that lance. I would instead replace the Wights and Jenners with more Panthers. It's the only logical solution.
Wight > Panther
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Wight > <Panther
Mr. Mad Dog, You must have accidentally hit the wrong carrot. I went ahead and fixed it for you! No need to thank me! :)
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The problem with the Wight (and by extension the Panther) is that it's too slow to run away, and to heavily armed to ignore. Many Davion heavies move just as fast as it and can pound it into ground round in a single salvo.
The Valkyrie has a similar problem, but it packs way less of a punch, so it's easier to ignore.
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There you go again, making virtue of vice and vice versa. Are you no longer enamored of C3?
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There you go again, making virtue of vice and vice versa. Are you no longer enamored of C3?
I plan on making one of the three companies a C3 company. They're cumbersome to BV out, even with the MUL tool. When I last ran an AFFS-DCMS battalion game, the C3 network remained up for the whole battle, more or less, but IIRC, the AFFS did not do a good job of disrupting the network or killing master units, as they instead wastefully swung out in a wide flanking manuever.
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My experience against C3 (and C3i) is that you really have to push jammers forward to disrupt the lines of communication, either cutting off spotters, breaking up C3i nets, or getting into the main axis of someone's advance to isolate people from the masters. Without jammers, you need to be pushing hard to get your forces right in someone's face, killing spotters as you go and doing your best to get to the master(s) and kill it(them).
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Push some Pumas out of VTOLs and swarm the C3M carriers, esp if they're vehicles. Nothing like the dismay from a little squad of BA crippling a C3M just by being in the same hex.
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Mr. Mad Dog, You must have accidentally hit the wrong carrot. I went ahead and fixed it for you! No need to thank me! :)
I officially challenge you to a Wight vs. Panther duel.
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I officially challenge you to a Wight vs. Panther duel.
I accept my good man! An epic battle of the ages!
(though slightly odd as we are both Davion players)
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I accept my good man! An epic battle of the ages!
(though slightly odd as we are both Davion players)
Know thy enemy.
I've watched you sleeping.
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Know thy enemy.
I've watched you sleeping.
Errr, umm. Hmm. Well then my imminent victory (say two out of three matches?) will be even more impressive.
Also, was I snoring? I hate when people see me snoring.
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I officially challenge you to a Wight vs. Panther duel.
In broken terrain, I might bet on the PNT.
Know thy enemy.
I've watched you sleeping.
"p.s. you smell nice"
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Errr, umm. Hmm. Well then my imminent victory (say two out of three matches?) will be even more impressive.
Also, was I snoring? I hate when people see me snoring.
Let's just say I didn't know that you and dfb were that close....
Anyhow. I'll take the standard 1LAW/SC and you can have your pick of IS only Panthers from 3076 and before. We just gotta figure out WHEN we can do this. Best of 3 is fine.
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I can bring a Spector to officiate/pick off the winner...
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I can bring a Spector to officiate/pick off the winner...
Or....y'know....not.
Seriously, it'll be hard enough to find time with both Josh and I are free without having to do with a west coaster.
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Let's just say I didn't know that you and dfb were that close....
Anyhow. I'll take the standard 1LAW/SC and you can have your pick of IS only Panthers from 3076 and before. We just gotta figure out WHEN we can do this. Best of 3 is fine.
Oh, you're an ass! You made me laugh, but you're still an ass.
Yea time is... holy **** wait a minute... I might be going through STL on our trip to AZ (if we go...) That could be awesome.
Or just MegaMek some night.
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Know thy enemy.
I've watched you sleeping.
I think there's a song about that. "It's just two men sharing the night/It might seem wrong, but it's just right."
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Oh, you're an ass! You made me laugh, but you're still an ass.
Yea time is... holy **** wait a minute... I might be going through STL on our trip to AZ (if we go...) That could be awesome.
Or just MegaMek some night.
I'm thinking you HAVE to come through STL now.
When?
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I'm thinking you HAVE to come through STL now.
When?
Tentatively the 18th of September.
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Tentatively the 18th of September.
so long as you're here in the afternoon, Sundays are great. If you're here in the evening, you're at the mercy of the weekly DnD game I play in. :P
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You could introduce him to the party as Cousin Oliver, the elf.
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In broken terrain, I might bet on the PNT.
Methinks there should definitely betting involved - if not for real money.
We need an oddsmaker, where's Vash?
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Methinks there should definitely betting involved - if not for real money.
We need an oddsmaker, where's Vash?
I like bets.
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This could be interesting...
I like bets.
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I like big bets, and I cannot lie.... :P
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To make the oddsmakers job a bit easier, I will be running the 10K2. Which is a 239 BV difference. Standard P/G skills? Better or worse?
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To make the oddsmakers job a bit easier, I will be running the 10K2. Which is a 239 BV difference. Standard P/G skills? Better or worse?
That's a solid one, but try and get BV as close as you can, don't handicap yourself. Drill like Rocky! I have potentially a lot riding on this.
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I'm off to work, but when I come home, I'll run some numbers and some MM drills!
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Pantywaist.
Practicing for a game of Battletech? Maybe you DO belong in a Drac 'Mech.
Can I interest you in some Blood Spirit hardware, or maybe a Turkina?
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Pantywaist.
Practicing for a game of Battletech? Maybe you DO belong in a Drac 'Mech.
Can I interest you in some Blood Spirit hardware, or maybe a Turkina?
You should practice too, man. The Wight can't jump, do you even know how ground MPs work?
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Anyhow. I'll take the standard 1LAW/SC and you can have your pick of IS only Panthers from 3076 and before. We just gotta figure out WHEN we can do this. Best of 3 is fine.
Are there any clantech Panthers? I certainly can't recall ever seeing a Panther IIC....
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Are there any clantech Panthers? I certainly can't recall ever seeing a Panther IIC....
Yeah, I couldn't remember if there was a clantech Panther representing early post exodus development, similar to the WHM C.
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MUL: "Signs point to no."
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MUL: "Signs point to no."
/me likes this comment.
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Charlie6 - I'm afraid I made reference to you and your BattleTech fire support doctrines in the VotW for the Challenger
Damn you Dan! Now I have to wander north. Sad.
Matt
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This could be interesting...
I'm betting on the Panther. Don't let me down here amigo.
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Are there any clantech Panthers? I certainly can't recall ever seeing a Panther IIC....
As Moonsword said, I don't think there's an official Panther IIC out there but I do seem to remember a Panther C with a (C) LPL in place of the PPC and a SSRM-4 in the CT. I can't remember exactly where I saw it, but it could have been MFNA or MECH magazine.
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Methinks there should definitely betting involved - if not for real money.
We need an oddsmaker, where's Vash?
Good call; if you're not talking money, then your talking don't matter.
Which PNT is he taking?
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Good call; if you're not talking money, then your talking don't matter.
Which PNT is he taking?
-10K2.
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In flat terrain I would give the Wight something like 5:2 in favor. That HPPC makes it dangerous to have ammo on a light and the compact engine makes it harder to win with a lucky TAC.
Rough terrain, probably 7:4 Panther.
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So, is there any intent to post portions of this exchange up topside?
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Obviously one or both of you will have to liveblog this. Preferably with alcohol involved.
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A pondering, that you chaps might be able to test better than me, given my complete inexperience with C3 networks. How about a C3 force that also stocks up on metric shitloads of ARAD missiles, for quickly neutralizing ECMs?
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I'm insulted that you would think that I would deign to use such a munchkin move as 'clan-tech' (Although, in [fake]reality, I'm surprised the Cats or the Bears haven't made one)I say one open map (favors you), one urban or hilly map (favors me) and a map chosen at random. Perhaps some tweaking to of the P or G numbers to get the BV2 more inline on my part.
Or not.
Now, besides prestige and bragging rights, what shall I get when I win?
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For a week, the loser must bear a userbar of the winner's choice?
(Within forum rules and decency, of course. Gary Busey userbars are just uncivilized.)
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For a week, the loser must bear a userbar of the winner's choice?
(Within forum rules and decency, of course. Gary Busey userbars are just uncivilized.)
Perhaps, but he should be honored to wear a Filtvelt banner!
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That's if you win and manage to cover the spread. If you don't cover the spread it is as good as losing.
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How would we even define what the spread is?
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How would we even define what the spread is?
That's up to Vash.
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I'm insulted that you would think that I would deign to use such a munchkin move as 'clan-tech' (Although, in [fake]reality, I'm surprised the Cats or the Bears haven't made one)I say one open map (favors you), one urban or hilly map (favors me) and a map chosen at random. Perhaps some tweaking to of the P or G numbers to get the BV2 more inline on my part.
Or not.
Now, besides prestige and bragging rights, what shall I get when I win?
The assertion is that the Wight is superior to the Panther. If you need P/G tweaking, you're pretty much admitting the 'Mech's inferiority.
Just sayin'. :P
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That's up to Vash.
On Solaris 7, the point spread is determined either by how much armor the winner has left, or how long the fight takes.
Determining THAT will take me a little more time. I don't think the O/U for rounds will be much more than 8.5 on a standard map, though.
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A pondering, that you chaps might be able to test better than me, given my complete inexperience with C3 networks. How about a C3 force that also stocks up on metric shitloads of ARAD missiles, for quickly neutralizing ECMs?
If you're already going TacOps, might as well just bring lots of your own ECM and switch it to ECCM mode.
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Hence the 'or not'. It's only 200 something points. I really wanna ride in the 9R but that is giving to much away to technology.
The assertion is that the Wight is superior to the Panther. If you need P/G tweaking, you're pretty much admitting the 'Mech's inferiority.
Just sayin'. :P
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Hence the 'or not'. It's only 200 something points. I really wanna ride in the 9R but that is giving to much away to technology.
Hey, pick whichever inferior ride you delusionally think is most likely to carry you to victory.
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If you're already going TacOps, might as well just bring lots of your own ECM and switch it to ECCM mode.
For neutralizing ECM, yes, ECCM. For playing on the fact that people haul ECM around like a mystic charm against C3 units and punishing them for it, I think Weirdo's got quite a nice idea.
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When is this match happening? I want to watch.
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When is this match happening? I want to watch.
Once panther-san and I figure out a date/time, we'll announce the fight proper. :P
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How would we even define what the spread is?
I think only a gamer could have asked this question with a straight face.
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I have a mild and disturbing urge to paint up an infantry squad as the cast of Scooby Doo. What precise figures would you recommend, or will the normal teeny-tiny figures do?
"That's not a Warhammer's leg actuator at all! It's really...Old Man Druthers!"
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I have a mild and disturbing urge to paint up an infantry squad as the cast of Scooby Doo. What precise figures would you recommend, or will the normal teeny-tiny figures do?
"That's not a Warhammer's leg actuator at all! It's really...Old Man Druthers!"
How about a mixed BA squad instead? That lame Lyran quad BA can be Scooby...
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I think the key thing here is to get the Mystery Machine right.
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It goes without saying that the Mystery Machine should be a Pack Rat LRPV.
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Mystery Machine's already spoken for. It's a MWDA Giggins, with the second one in the group destined to be the A-Team van. It's actually what inspired the infantry idea.
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Once panther-san and I figure out a date/time, we'll announce the fight proper. :P
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY! The Beast Released versus the Faster Blaster!
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Well, I'll know more on our travel schedule next week. I would love to do this in person, while drinking some delicious coffee and munching down on some gelato. Maybe we could set up a webcam or something. I dunno. If we don't go on a honeymoon, we will have to do a MegaMek game. Can people watch without playing that?
Anyways, I hope to do it in person, and I'll be painting up a Panther special for this one!
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If we don't go on a honeymoon, we will have to do a MegaMek game. Can people watch without playing that?
Yep, easily.
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Well, I'll know more on our travel schedule next week. I would love to do this in person, while drinking some delicious coffee and munching down on some gelato. Maybe we could set up a webcam or something. I dunno. If we don't go on a honeymoon, we will have to do a MegaMek game. Can people watch without playing that?
Anyways, I hope to do it in person, and I'll be painting up a Panther special for this one!
Dude. Do you really want to have your ass handed to you (by someone other than your wife) on your Honeymoon? I dunno about you, but I think most women conceptualize honeymoons as "away from everyone else but just us two" time.
Make sure you guys have an understanding (wherein you're yielding to her desires) about this before you commit to hanging out in STL.
If she's down, I'm down, but she'll have to pick up the broken, smoldering pieces of your pride when it's all said and done.
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Are you rolling with 4/5 pilots?
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The way God intended.
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Are you rolling with 4/5 pilots?
I was thinking 3/4, myself.
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Eh, we're going to see her friend in AZ (and investigate moving there) so it's not even an issue. She would be totally fine reading her book/playing on computer at a coffee shop while I nerd out. Why would my pride be an issue? It's not like I would lose or anything...
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I was thinking 3/4, myself.
Then yeah, I'm pretty sold on the 8.5 round O/U, assuming you don't use more than one mapsheet.
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Eh, we're going to see her friend in AZ (and investigate moving there) so it's not even an issue. She would be totally fine reading her book/playing on computer at a coffee shop while I nerd out. Why would my pride be an issue? It's not like I would lose or anything...
Well, she could always get together with Mrs. MDM and discuss the care and feeding of Husbands........ ^-^ [skull]
Craig
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Maybe Mrs. MDM could convince her that nerd games are fun.
1 Mapsheet and 3/4 skills are fine by me.
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Why do I get the feeling someone's planning to charge into the Wight's short range to nerf the HPPC?
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Why do I get the feeling someone's planning to charge into the Wight's short range to nerf the HPPC?
Noooooooooo.
I don't really have the speed to keep him at my long and to stay out of his reach.
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I've been toying with the idea of doing two identical mapsheets joined on the longside, and having the two combatants begin in the center of opposite long sides.
Thoughts, Josh?
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I've been toying with the idea of doing two identical mapsheets joined on the longside, and having the two combatants begin in the center of opposite long sides.
Thoughts, Josh?
I have no qualms, good sir.
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I have no qualms, good sir.
OK, Vash - run the odds for that then?
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Also, Josh, I'm thinking we should try to find an evening to MegaMek this. We can definitely play some Battletech when you roll through STL, but it might be fun to have everyone who wants able to spectate.
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We can. I'll double check my online MegaMek skills, Edward can vouch that it takes me a bit to log in. What times/dates work for us and our spectators? Should we do a Poll? I know who we can ask to make one for us! :)
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We can. I'll double check my online MegaMek skills, Edward can vouch that it takes me a bit to log in. What times/dates work for us and our spectators? Should we do a Poll? I know who we can ask to make one for us! :)
Tellya what, look at your schedule for this coming week, and PM me your free times in the evening. We'll go from there.
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Okay, I'm clearly falling blissfully behind on current pop culture; what on/off Earth is jersey shore, and why does it keep getting mentioned in the few Clan threads I browse through?
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Okay, I'm clearly falling blissfully behind on current pop culture; what on/off Earth is jersey shore, and why does it keep getting mentioned in the few Clan threads I browse through?
Depends on who you ask. Most people will call it a show about idiots behaving badly. Imbeciles will call it a great show about cool people. Pretentious people slumming it will call it an anthropological experiment. As for what it's actually about, you're probably better off just consulting Wikipedia.
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South Park also had a good explanation. And introduced us to the creature known as "Snooki."
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From what very little I know, the idea of looking it up on Wikipedia terrifies me. I'm scared, Dave. Will I dream?
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From what very little I know, the idea of looking it up on Wikipedia terrifies me. I'm scared, Dave. Will I dream?
Yes, of orange people.
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Oompa loompas?
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Oompa loompas?
Sure, why not.
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Oompa loompas?
Drunk rude Oompa Loompas who do nothing but curse, fight and procreate.
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Now THAT'S an episode of My Little Pony I'd watch!* :D
*okay, not really
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Now THAT'S an episode of My Little Pony I'd watch!* :D
*okay, not really
I'm not so much blown away that we have a My Little Pony thread on these boards as I am cheapened by its very existence.
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To me, that thread is a lot like the Clan forum.
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Gelato Con Caffe!
Let me know went and where. Sounds like fun.
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Oompa loompas?
No, something far worse
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To me, that thread is a lot like the Clan forum.
I'm not sure, but I think that constitutes an insult to My Little Pony. Being compared to the Clan Forums...
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I'm not sure, but I think that constitutes an insult to My Little Pony. Being compared to the Clan Forums...
Jeez, it's such a close call...
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I'm not so much blown away that we have a My Little Pony thread on these boards as I am cheapened by its very existence.
Isn't My Little Pony what people call Hell's Horses bondsmen beaten/won easily?
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To me, that thread is a lot like the Clan forum.
I thought the mods were supposed to stop trouble, not start it...
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Jersey shore is about the young Italian-American party crowd in the New Jersey area. No, it's not nearly as good as it sounds(not that it sounds good, it's just that bad). Pretty much as if they made a show about frat boys and girls, except that these weren't smart enough to go to college, and like to refer to themselves with Italian-American slurs.
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That just makes me glad I don't have any idea what network this is even on. I don't want to know, either.
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To me, that thread is a lot like the Clan forum.
I thought the mods were supposed to stop trouble, not start it...
Suppose I should clarify..
Much like the Clan forum, the MLP thread holds little to no interest to me, and I'll only venture there through morbid curiosity.
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That just makes me glad I don't have any idea what network this is even on. I don't want to know, either.
The DJs (Mark Goodman, Nina Blackwood, Alan Hunter and Martha Quinn) on XM's 80s Channel wish they didn't know also. Martha recently had to plug a special on a different channel being hosted by one of the Jersey Shore girls and commented on how the original VJs mourn what the channel they created has become.
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I'm contemplating an AFFS fire support company built around four Challenger MBTs, four JES I and four JES II missile carriers. Thoughts?
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Well, the JES I is just a terrible, terrible, utter piece of shit of a tank. With a little reorganization, though, the idea has some promise.
How about this?
Command Lance
Ajax Assault Tank B
Ajax Assault Tank B
Challenger XI MBT
Challenger XI MBT
Fire Lance
JES II Strategic Missile Carrier
JES II Strategic Missile Carrier
JES II Strategic Missile Carrier
JES II Strategic Missile Carrier
Spotter Lance
Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle
Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle
Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle
Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle
Now you've got a full C3 net that can lob an insane amount of missile fire at long range and has four TC-ed gauss rifles to ice the cake. Delicious, delicious cake.
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I like it, but C3 networks are, as I said, a pain to calculate. I was planning on using the 3085 JES I, which is 8/12.
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I wasn't even aware that existed. In that case, how about four Challengers, four NLRM carriers, and four JES Is? Because the JES II is so incredibly slow that if you're not using C3 it's going to be pretty difficult to get good performance out of it.
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I'm contemplating an AFFS fire support company built around four Challenger MBTs, four JES I and four JES II missile carriers. Thoughts?
throw in a lance of Arrow IV Demolishers
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I wasn't even aware that existed. In that case, how about four Challengers, four NLRM carriers, and four JES Is? Because the JES II is so incredibly slow that if you're not using C3 it's going to be pretty difficult to get good performance out of it.
Well, the beautiful thing about LRMs is that the launcher doesn't need to see the target. Of course, the terrible side arcs of the JES IIs MMLs kind of makes them irrelevant.
throw in a lance of Arrow IV Demolishers
For personal reasons, I never use artillery in games I run.
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Don't think of on-map Arrow IV as artillery, just overly complicated mega-Thunderbolts. :P
I can understand (barely) your beef with off-board artillery, but not onboard.
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Bahh, the only way you could have a beef with artillery is if you're not using enough and if you can't blot out the sun with your ToT barrages, you're not using enough.
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Don't think of on-map Arrow IV as artillery, just overly complicated mega-Thunderbolts. :P
I can understand (barely) your beef with off-board artillery, but not onboard.
Artillery seriously unbalanced many early Chicago CBT games, and was a driving force in me becoming a demo agent. Just as in real life, good usage of artillery can win a game before the main bodies meet. It was frustrating for people who'd driven an hour or more (some guys came from Rockford, two hours to the north) to come in and be beaten before their 'mechs got off a shot. My job was to make sure the game was fun, first and foremost.
That's my main reason. Also, I'm not real solid on the rules.
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I feelya, offboard Arty can totally change a game if not handled correctly.
Onboard Arty is just another element, and is fairly balanced in its application.
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I rather liked early uses of it around here. Essentially each side was allowed 1-3 uses (of Arty or Air Support) rules for said were applied by the book, but they had limited use. If used carefully (read: tactically) it could make a difference. If you barraged the enemy at first sight, odds are you didn't take them out (good chance of missing without those fancy Level 2 EW systems), and they could then use theirs at any time.
Often, they didn't get used at all, for fear the other side would use theirs.
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This in new one. From discussions up north on the old board I always got the impression that in-game off board artillery was more a danger to oneself than the opponent and was too time consuming to use. I’m curious as to how someone managed to employ it effectively so as to garner such a reaction. Regardless, I say in that specific case the artillery was potentially handled correctly but certainly not competively. I’d argue the real problem is the small-unit close-combat focus CBT has as opposed to a focus large scale military operations. In a larger operation, those guns (or airstrikes) aren’t going to be available all the time so a usage limitation isn’t far-fetched at all. In-game reasons could a)counter-fire threat forcing displacement, b) targeting priorities, c) commander’s intent for fires, or d) paucity of ammunition.
I’m curious for Interstellar Operations and how that game intends to handle larger forces. The simple constraint of crew rest and aviation sortie generation will play all sorts of games on some folks forces.
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Well, the JES I is just a terrible, terrible, utter piece of shit of a tank. With a little reorganization, though, the idea has some promise.
While the armor's not any better and someone still needs to flog JES's engineers until they figure out why standardizing on one launcher is a good thing, they did fix the speed with the 3082 variant in RS3085 Old is the New New.
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Speaking of air support, today's game should be fun. My group is playing through the Jihad campaign tracks, and today is The Skye is Falling from DotJ, with me assembling the OPFOR. It's been way too long since I dusted off my Shivas... }:)
...literally. :-[
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This in new one. From discussions up north on the old board I always got the impression that in-game off board artillery was more a danger to oneself than the opponent and was too time consuming to use. I’m curious as to how someone managed to employ it effectively so as to garner such a reaction. Regardless, I say in that specific case the artillery was potentially handled correctly but certainly not competively. I’d argue the real problem is the small-unit close-combat focus CBT has as opposed to a focus large scale military operations. In a larger operation, those guns (or airstrikes) aren’t going to be available all the time so a usage limitation isn’t far-fetched at all. In-game reasons could a)counter-fire threat forcing displacement, b) targeting priorities, c) commander’s intent for fires, or d) paucity of ammunition.
I’m curious for Interstellar Operations and how that game intends to handle larger forces. The simple constraint of crew rest and aviation sortie generation will play all sorts of games on some folks forces.
While it's not completely safe now, off-board artillery is much better now than it was when TacOps first came out due to a slight rules errata that dealt with the problem. I'll see if I can find the specific errata, but I'm sure Weirdo knows of it as well considering how much he's into Artillery and Ortillery.
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While it's not completely safe now, off-board artillery is much better now than it was when TacOps first came out due to a slight rules errata that dealt with the problem. I'll see if I can find the specific errata, but I'm sure Weirdo knows of it as well considering how much he's into Artillery and Ortillery.
If I recall it had to do with determining a scatter distance by rolling one too many d6s after determining direction, I think. I'm curious as to how someone pulled off a morale crushing employment technique that's cause two to three long time players to hate it.
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If I recall it had to do with determining a scatter distance by rolling one too many d6s after determining direction, I think. I'm curious as to how someone pulled off a morale crushing employment technique that's cause two to three long time players to hate it.
Two O-Bakeomono's onboard, dropping four rounds a salvo of area-effect AIV. The player in question had been a FASA Marauder and was very good at anticipating where enemy units would be when the rounds hit.
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If you know where the enemy will be two rounds hence, you ought to be rewarded for it.
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If you know where the enemy will be two rounds hence, you ought to be rewarded for it.
No kidding doing 3D artillery adjustments RL is hard enough on a static target. DPICM having a RL burst radius of 100m is helpful though for moving targets.
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It's not that it wasn't impressive, but it didn't make for a fun game. Siting machine guns well is also an impressive feat, but few people want to game the Somme offensive at the tactical level.
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Wasn't that game called Missile Command?
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Wasn't that game called Missile Command?
Yes, and you'll note you don't play as the missiles.
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You want to watch something funny and just a bit sad, bring HE against the bot.
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Yes, and you'll note you don't play as the missiles.
There is such a game, though I haven't played it. Plants v. Zombies, right? You send endless hordes against static defenses.
Anyhow I agree that BattleTech isn't fun if the 'Mechs drop like flies. Too bloody many rolls as they die.
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So, whats red and smooshy?
MDM in his Wight after my Panther DFAs him! Booya!
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So the fight date/time is set! This Monday, August 22 at 7PM CDT, see the battle we've all been waiting for! Princess Greatsarcasmo stands ready defend boldly her claim that the Panther is a superior machine of war!
Squaring off against her, the Bully Gorilla himself, MadDogMaddux, who plans to make Princess Greatsarcasmo cry like a 12 year old boy whose Legacy's head just got shot off!!! Maddux asserts, in a move that seems to many to be completely out of character, that the Wight's faster speed and heavier firepower makes up for a lack of jumping and poor artwork!
Place your bets, ladies and germs, as MadDogMaddux and Princess Greatsarcasmo will square off in three bouts over 2 mapsheets each, one consisting of twinned Battletech1 sheets, one consisting of twinned Battleforce sheets, and one completely randomly generated. We didn't bother naming a third mapsheet, as Princess Greatsarcasmo won't even make it into the third round of combat!!!!
Watch this space for future updates, including the necessary MegaMek version, and IP address wherein you can watch the MadDog break the Princess!!!!
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Will this be a double-blind match as well?
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So the fight date/time is set! This Monday, August 22 at 7PM CDT, see the battle we've all been waiting for! Princess Greatsarcasmo stands ready defend boldly her claim that the Panther is a superior machine of war!
Squaring off against her, the Bully Gorilla himself, MadDogMaddux, who plans to make Princess Greatsarcasmo cry like a 12 year old boy whose Legacy's head just got shot off!!! Maddux asserts, in a move that seems to many to be completely out of character, that the Wight's faster speed and heavier firepower makes up for a lack of jumping and poor artwork!
Place your bets, ladies and germs, as MadDogMaddux and Princess Greatsarcasmo will square off in three bouts over 2 mapsheets each, one consisting of twinned Battletech1 sheets, one consisting of twinned Battleforce sheets, and one completely randomly generated. We didn't bother naming a third mapsheet, as Princess Greatsarcasmo won't even make it into the third round of combat!!!!
Watch this space for future updates, including the necessary MegaMek version, and IP address wherein you can watch the MadDog break the Princess!!!!
Oh, so that's how this is going down...
I see how you are!
Will this be a double-blind match as well?
No on the double blind.
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Place your bets, ladies and germs
Tom: How about this, Ron? Try Snakejuice. If you like it, you got to talk it up all night. If you don't, I'll shave Jean-Ralphio's head.
Ron: Yeah, I'd like to see that. Hit me.
Jean-Ralphio: There's a lot riiiiding on thiiiiis....
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MDM has to win, for if he loses, I get to eat as much gelato as I can. And I can eat A LOT of gelato... O0
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I'm Nerd, and I support MadDogMaddux and his Wight.
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Its his Wight to be wrong...
What, too much?
Davout
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MDM has to win, for if he loses, I get to eat as much gelato as I can. And I can eat A LOT of gelato... O0
I only make bets I can afford to cover, I can cover this one because you have no chance of winning.
Pantywaist.
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I'm Nerd, and I support MadDogMaddux and his Wight.
/me likes this comment.
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Pride goeth before a fall. Or being eaten out of house and home in your case.
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MDM has to win, for if he loses, I get to eat as much gelato as I can. And I can eat A LOT of gelato... O0
Nice! Promise to share. Also, does Ben Rome know about this? IIRC, he designed the Wight.
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Oh, so that's how this is going down...
I see how you are!
Yeah, but if you win he'll never mention it again.
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Yeah, but if you win he'll never mention it again.
If? ???
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Nice! Promise to share. Also, does Ben Rome know about this? IIRC, he designed the Wight.
Share? Who do you think is driving me down there in the lap of luxury? I guess I could try to let Mr. Rome know via Twitter, unless someone else here has a better way (i.e better associated with him) to let him know the goods?
You're either with me or Panther food!
Go Team (Sex) Panther!
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3CL's got him on the book of faces, I saw.
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If? ???
You did choose MegaMek, which defies probability with all the 2s and 12s that get rolled. I'm not a fan of the system.
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You did choose MegaMek, which defies probability with all the 2s and 12s that get rolled. I'm not a fan of the system.
Do you have a log of rolls that shows that? I've been logging the RNG off and on and it seems pretty close to a bell curve.
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Awesome night of DnD last night.
Our 6th level 30 point build party vs a Lich, several zombies/skeletons, and a Necrosis Carnex.
First round of combat, after he's dropped Web on all of us, my Wizard catches him with Baleful transposition - leaving HIM in the web right next to our Knight and Barbarian, while I'm suddenly on the dais from whence he was planning on raining down ranged spells.
Next round, our cleric succeeds with casting Know Vulnerabilities and barks out how we can actually damage him, our bard lights up a righteous guitar riff, and our melee guys get to tearing him a new one. About 3 rounds of that, and he drops the web spell and flees - but not far enough, as I chase him down and hit both him and the Necrosis Carnex with a Sudden Maximized Fireburst. 40 points of fire to the Carnex, which dies after taking its first damage in the game, and 20 to the Lich.
Lich casts spider climb and climbs up the wall into the darkness where we can't see him. Cleric moves into range and readies to cast a spell when he CAN see him. I cast Wall of Light up on the wall where I think he is, which is a Daylight equivalent spell - the cleric casts and succeeds on Dispel Magic against the spider climb, causing the Lich to fall 55 feet right at the feet of our Barbarian and Knight. Whack Whack, and the Cleric steps up with a Holy Smite. Game. Set. Match.
Friggin' Awesome. [rockon]
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Just out of curiosity, who's going to try to make it to the slaughtering of greatsarcasmo tonight?
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Oh, and we'll be using the latest stable version of MM - 0.34.9
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Just out of curiosity, who's going to try to make it to the slaughtering of greatsarcasmo tonight?
I'll do my best. In a perfect world, I'll be eating pizza and watching it, like some kind of hinky pay-per-view.
(NB I also have a lot of model airplanes to primer, as Melanie has forbidden the purchase of further Spitfires until I build the ones I have.)
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I'll be seeing what I can do. It'll be my first time trying to spectate with MM, so I'll probably mess it up.
I assembled some minis for the first time over the weekend. Now I guess I'm going to have to learn how to paint them.
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I assembled some minis for the first time over the weekend. Now I guess I'm going to have to learn how to paint them.
What minis? What paint scheme?
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I have a RAC-Centurion, Atlas, Rifleman, Wolfhound, Battlemaster, and Griffin sitting on my shelf. I'll probably do them up as Heavy Guard since that's both my favorite unit and the scheme looks easy. I also have an Archer and an Enforcer I haven't assembled yet. I'm going to need to get something more delicate than my fingers to deal with the little fiddly bits they have. The Archer also has a protrusion in the socket where the torso and legs come together. I'm going to need to find a way to file that down without damaging the rim.
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I recommend a nail file if you don't have access to a good file set. Works wonders.
Which Davion Guards scheme? The Field Manual "Uncle Sam" one, or the classic blue with red/white stripe? There was a good tutorial for doing a battleworn version of the former for the New Avalon fighting that I found very helpful a while back.
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I'd also like to note that despite the incessant bitching and whining, it seems pretty easy to build a solid Drac company, even without hundreds of gauss boats.
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I recommend a nail file if you don't have access to a good file set. Works wonders.
This was recommended to me, but I don't have one yet.
Which Davion Guards scheme? The Field Manual "Uncle Sam" one, or the classic blue with red/white stripe? There was a good tutorial for doing a battleworn version of the former for the New Avalon fighting that I found very helpful a while back.
The Field Manual one. It looks really difficult to mess up, as paint schemes go, and there's plenty of examples on CamoSpecs to look at for guidance.
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The Field Manual one. It looks really difficult to mess up, as paint schemes go, and there's plenty of examples on CamoSpecs to look at for guidance.
I actually think it's one of the harder schemes out there to attempt from the start, but I'm a notoriously weak painter.
The tips I found helpful were this: paint the white areas light grey and drybrush white over them, paint the blue a dark blue and very lightly drybrush GW Ice Blue over it, and just use a nice deep red. Ink black before drybrushing. The net effect is a very battleworn DG scheme, which worked for what I was doing.
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I'll do my best. In a perfect world, I'll be eating pizza and watching it, like some kind of hinky pay-per-view.
(NB I also have a lot of model airplanes to primer, as Melanie has forbidden the purchase of further Spitfires until I build the ones I have.)
Ack. Your wife and Christine can never be allowed to talk. If she ever got an idea like that...
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Ack. Your wife and Christine can never be allowed to talk. If she ever got an idea like that...
I managed to get a 1/72 Spitfire 24 in under the gun before the ruling was finalized. It's fairly clear which one of us is going to be in charge of the family finances. I take heart, however; beyond my role as breadwinner, I am apparently excellent at putting cookie dough on cookie sheets, which Melanie hates to do. So my masculinity clearly isn't imperiled.
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I managed to get a 1/72 Spitfire 24 in under the gun before the ruling was finalized. It's fairly clear which one of us is going to be in charge of the family finances. I take heart, however; beyond my role as breadwinner, I am apparently excellent at putting cookie dough on cookie sheets, which Melanie hates to do. So my masculinity clearly isn't imperiled.
You're doing the 'baking' and you're saying your masculinity is safe. Think again, it's the mommy who usually bakes the cookies.
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What if you're not the breadwinner, do the cooking, cleaning and are the worst driver? I am still a man, yes?
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You're doing the 'baking' and you're saying your masculinity is safe. Think again, it's the mommy who usually bakes the cookies.
Well, I know who's not going to get any chocolate chip cookies from me.
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I actually think it's one of the harder schemes out there to attempt from the start, but I'm a notoriously weak painter.
The tips I found helpful were this: paint the white areas light grey and drybrush white over them, paint the blue a dark blue and very lightly drybrush GW Ice Blue over it, and just use a nice deep red. Ink black before drybrushing. The net effect is a very battleworn DG scheme, which worked for what I was doing.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try to keep it in mind, though I'm not sure when I'll get around to actually painting.
You're doing the 'baking' and you're saying your masculinity is safe. Think again, it's the mommy who usually bakes the cookies.
Nothing wrong with a good bake. I'm quite proud of my from-scratch pancakes.
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What if you're not the breadwinner, do the cooking, cleaning and are the worst driver? I am still a man, yes?
Fear not, my brother, I too am the worst driver. Although, very excited about the '97 ES300 that I will soon be mishandling.
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Well, I know who's not going to get any chocolate chip cookies from me.
's OK, Chocolate Chip is not my favorite cookie by a longshot. I eat those whne there literally is nothing else
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try to keep it in mind, though I'm not sure when I'll get around to actually painting.
When you do, post pictures!
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I'd also like to note that despite the incessant bitching and whining, it seems pretty easy to build a solid Drac company, even without hundreds of gauss boats.
Lies. Gauss boats are all that matters.
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Lies. Gauss boats are all that matters.
There's one poster who complains about Drac 'mechs---who could I possibly mean?---and I always imagine their posts being read by someone whose voice rises to a shriek about three-quarters of the way through.
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There's one poster who complains about Drac 'mechs---who could I possibly mean?---and I always imagine their posts being read by someone whose voice rises to a shriek about three-quarters of the way through.
The snakes' very own PerkinsC expy? ;D
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There's one poster who complains about Drac 'mechs---who could I possibly mean?---and I always imagine their posts being read by someone whose voice rises to a shriek about three-quarters of the way through.
Yeah. At one point he described the 6/9/9, SnPPC, C3 spotter Phoenix Hawk as "mediocre".
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Yeah. At one point he described the 6/9/9, SnPPC, C3 spotter Phoenix Hawk as "mediocre".
To be fair, I am no fan of it or the 5/8/8 POS PXH the MOC got out of the Jihad, either. I have an unreasonableintense dislike of IJJs however.
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No, you were correct with "unreasonable". IJJs are freakin awesome.
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Heya folks!
I have recentyly sworn off the Wolf thread entirely and for the most part the Clan Chatterweb as well. Seeing as how I actually know some of you guys in here I thought I might make this my new "hangout" spot.
That is if you dont mind a diehard Wolf fan mixing it up with you Davions. :)
On another note I shudder at the thought of painting up a Davion Guards scheme. I swore I would never paint a mech in that scheme again after VG.
I did however finally find a Davion scheme that I liked at GenCon, which is the Kestrel Grenadiers.
I do have a question about mechs though. Any really iconic mechs that I should have in that unit? I know I have a Templar, Chimera, Garm and a few oddball mechs that I could use for the unit and my FedCom unit is now facing the "bath" squad. Im pretty sure I can get a decent amount of mechs, tanks, and BA in the unit.
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To be fair, I am no fan of it or the 5/8/8 POS PXH the MOC got out of the Jihad, either. I have an unreasonableintense dislike of IJJs however.
It's not an exceptional combat machine, but I would be hard pressed to find a better mech to spot for a C3 lance. Near max armor, excellent mobility and weapons that are still in short range outside of ECM range does not a mediocre spotter make.
Welcome Wolf Lancer.
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No, you were correct with "unreasonable". IJJs are freakin awesome.
Bahh, they're an abomination I tells ya. If the Good Lord had intended us to jump further than our Walking MP, we'd all be running around in Airmech Mode constantly. If you want to jump 8 hexes, take a Spider. That's all we had back in the day, and we were glad! [tickedoff]
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Bahh, they're an abomination I tells ya. If the Good Lord had intended us to jump further than our Walking MP, we'd all be running around in Airmech Mode constantly. If you want to jump 8 hexes, take a Spider. That's all we had back in the day, and we were glad! [tickedoff]
[stupid]
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There's one poster who complains about Drac 'mechs---who could I possibly mean?---and I always imagine their posts being read by someone whose voice rises to a shriek about three-quarters of the way through.
Chris Latta? (Of Transformers and G.I. Joe fame) Or Lady Gaga? (oh wait... becomes shreiking 3/4 of the way through. She's out.)
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Not a fan of the IJJs myself. Then again I dont much care for regular JJs.
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Welcome Wolf Lancer! Sorry to hear that chatterweb is no longer enjoyable...
Yea, I'm regretting choosing 2 lances of BoG mechs to paint. I only have 3 in progress, so I might compromise and just trim it down to a lance. I'll have to find another unit to paint up that I like, however. I kinda like the Capellan Dragoons, but that limits who I can play. I'll find something.
Oh, and Go Team (Sex) Panther!
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Wolf Lancer: Off the top of my head: Rifleman, Enforcer III, Rakshasa, Javelin, Centurion, and Osiris are all pretty iconic.
Yeah. At one point he described the 6/9/9, SnPPC, C3 spotter Phoenix Hawk as "mediocre".
It's not the best stand-up, rock-em-sock-em 'mech out there, but it's an awesome Kurita Wraith replacement. Every faction needs their own nigh-unhittable medium jumper.
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Regarding our duel, I thought I would post a poll, to see what the masses think is the better design!
http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,9520.0.html
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Well, surely know that one duel won't be dispositive. That's why people bet, and bet again the next time.
MDM, your weekend sounds like mine, wherein I slew the Grievous Cockroach with a 30-point Can of Raid.
3CL, your wife has already figured out how to help you enjoy your hobbies by rationing their availability. You remember the Twilight Zone where the guy went to hell and found it full of things he enjoyed without limit, thus denying him the pleasure of them, right?
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Regarding our duel, I thought I would post a poll, to see what the masses think is the better design!
http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,9520.0.html
Mexilent!
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Every faction needs their own nigh-unhittable medium jumper.
Blitzkrieg-4F!!!!!!
Best part is, it even has the proper letter suffix for the Ducal Army.
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MDM, your weekend sounds like mine, wherein I slew the Grievous Cockroach with a 30-point Can of Raid.
I have a Calico of Greater Insect Bane for that.
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How are we to learn which IP and port to connect for the big game?
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MDM or I will post it here.
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You remember the Twilight Zone where the guy went to hell and found it full of things he enjoyed without limit, thus denying him the pleasure of them, right?
Was that the one where Homer ate all the donuts in the world?
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Was that the one where Homer ate all the donuts in the world?
ooh! Forbidden Donut! :P
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If you want to jump 8 hexes, take a Spider. That's all we had back in the day, and we were glad!
The OstScout jumped 8 hexes, too.
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Was that the one where Homer ate all the donuts in the world?
I always liked the Treehouse Horror where Homer left the alternate world that the rain was the donuts.
Idiot me joined my brother's fantasy football league which figuring out cost me a Sunday that I could have been painting any number of miniatures; next weekend the wife's birthday. Anyway, I'm thinking of the 2d Crucis Lancers as an easy paint scheme.
Every faction needs their own nigh-unhittable medium jumper.
Is the Stealth the AFFS version of this?
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Geneteically speaking?
Yes.
But how do you feel about showtunes? :D
What if you're not the breadwinner, do the cooking, cleaning and are the worst driver? I am still a man, yes?
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Is the Stealth the AFFS version of this?
We actually have a few options for that department, but the Stealth suits fairly well.
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It BEGINS!
MegaMek Version 34.9
67.53.188.198
Port 2345
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It BEGINS!
MegaMek Version 34.9
67.53.188.198
Port 2345
Come on in for the pregame!
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.....and we're off!
Join in if you wanna watch!
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Turn 2 and we've had multiple misspellings in the peanut gallery.
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"You have been disconnected from the server."
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"You have been disconnected from the server."
I blame you.
You're missing a lot of retrograde advances.
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Can anyone provide an update? I'm spending time with the wife.
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Starting round 8 and MDM has taken the right side off the Panther.
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ROund 12. The Panther is still alive and his gone internal with the SRMs, destroying an ERML on the Wight. The Wight is overheating and tries to run. The Panther misses a DFA by one and falls, critting the gyro.
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Round 13. The Panther stands! But the Wight hits with another ERML and finishes him off, coring the CT.
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Neko, where'd ya go?
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Maybe they should do the best two out of three?
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They are. Game 2 underway.
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They are. Game 2 underway.
Good, skipping the DFA would be good. Less spectacular but good.
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They are. Game 2 underway.
*grrs at the version, goes to get 34.9*
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I saw the decisive elements. Sorry about being absent the chat; was eating dinner.
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I'm suddenly kicked from the server and can't log in. you guys?
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I did a great disservice to the Panther, this day.... :'(
Also, Edward, someone with an accent keeps calling for you?
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Also, Edward, someone with an accent keeps calling for you?
oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit
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I'm suddenly kicked from the server and can't log in. you guys?
I see an MDM in there.
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Let's hear you say it, Josh. "The Wight is a better 'Mech than the Panther."
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I'm suddenly kicked from the server and can't log in. you guys?
Same here. The Vietnamese must be trying to shut down communications so they can more easily get at Josh and Ed.
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Let me know the new IP when we're up again....
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I see an MDM in there.
Hrm, try kicking all the Ghosts?
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Well, the server failed! Probably to save me from further embarrassment..
"The Wight is a better 'Mech than the Panther."
"The Wight is a better 'Mech than the Panther."
"The Wight is a better 'Mech than the Panther."
"The Wight is a better 'Mech than the Panther."
"The Wight is a better 'Mech than the Panther."
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I'mma go eat with my wife. I'll check in after dinner, and maybe we can all have a friendly?
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As am I. Ill check in
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Works for me. I'll probably just spectate though. I'm getting a headache and it feels like it'll be a bad one.
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I'll try too.
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Oy, I didn't know there was a round 2!! [tickedoff]
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I'm game if there's room.
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Cheese and rice! You guys sure do talk a lot. ;D
@3CL
Thanks for the short list there. I actually have about half of those mechs. Went through my minis today to see what I had(you should see my painting table now) and found what I think are several "Davion" mechs. I have a few Ajax tanks but not sure what other tanks the Davions like to use.
I have the following tanks:
Myrmidons
Pilum
Pattons
Striker
Po
Bulldog
Any of those used often? Any other suggestions for tanks?
Im in luck for the BA department. Have some Grenadiers and Cavaliers that I bought a few GCs back.
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Looks like you've got the makings of a decent armor force there. The Striker and Bulldog are both solid AFFS designs and the Patton/Rommel chassis, while a LCAF unit, can also be found in the AFFS ranks due to the alliance.
If you want real AFFS tanks though, Alacorns, Challengers and Behemoths are the way to go for heavy assault armor.
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Ah forget one tank that I had and I "think" its a Challenger. Have to check the TRO right quick.
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Myrmidons
Pilum
Pattons
Striker
Po
Bulldog
Pilums and Strikers are as Davion as they come. Bulldogs and Pattons aren't uncommon.
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Pilums and Strikers are as Davion as they come. Bulldogs and Pattons aren't uncommon.
I thought the Pilum was a DCMS Arrow IV unit, was I thinking of another tank?
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Sweet! Glad that my tank forces now have an actual home. In additino those are indeed Challenger tanks that I have. I also believe that there are four of them in my bins. Combine those with the Ajax tanks I have and a nasty assault tank force is in the works.
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I thought the Pilum was a DCMS Arrow IV unit, was I thinking of another tank?
Pilum's built on Johnsondale by Valiant. It's an AFFS Arrow IV or LRM 15 tank.
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I thought the Pilum was a DCMS Arrow IV unit, was I thinking of another tank?
Schiltron maybe? Pilum is AFFS, and a decent Arrow IV carrier.
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Schiltron maybe? Pilum is AFFS, and a decent Arrow IV carrier.
That's it, I was thinking about the Schiltron. I've got to look into the Pilum then.
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Oy, I didn't know there was a round 2!! [tickedoff]
Aye, and Round 2 went even more quickly!!!
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That's it, I was thinking about the Schiltron. I've got to look into the Pilum then.
Its no Padilla but its got a deeper magazine than the Chaparral. The wheels hurt it less given its range.
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Sweet! Glad that my tank forces now have an actual home. In additino those are indeed Challenger tanks that I have. I also believe that there are four of them in my bins. Combine those with the Ajax tanks I have and a nasty assault tank force is in the works.
Yes, you do. You can design C3 networks out of them if you're feeling cruel.
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I'd also like to note that despite the incessant bitching and whining, it seems pretty easy to build a solid Drac company, even without hundreds of gauss boats.
This is one of those times that I wish this board had a "Like" button, because I would be pressing it over and over again right now. Seriously, if you can't build a modern-era DC force that can go toe-to-toe with any of its neighbors, you aren't trying hard enough.
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Was just youtubing for some clips of Sgt. Plumley from We Were Soldiers - and stumbled on the clip of the final push fight scene.
Damn. I love that movie.
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That is indeed a good movie. Even more so by the fact that Harold Moore said they "got it right." When a guy who was there says a Vietnam movie got it right thats all the credit you need.
I may even pull that movie out and watch it tonight...
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Agreed. This is one of those movies that you just have to watch every few weeks.
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anyone want to join in on a friendly?
We're up at the same IP.
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I'll be there in just a moment.
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I hate We Were Soldiers for the totally tacked on hollywood ending. It one of the worst culpits for faux true story telling I have ever come across. #P
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What version of MM is it?
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MegaMek Version 34.9
67.53.188.198
Port 2345
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Ah. Dont have that version.
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The Firebee is a lethal city fighter.
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Fun fight tonight!
3CL, BlackAce, and Paladin1 (Filthy Brits) vs. me, greatsarcasmo, and Wolflancer4(Damn Yankees)! We each took 2 Light 'Mechs for a total of 2000bv per player, the boosted to 2/3 pilots in a 35x35 map called New Avalon. Big city with a big square in the middle.
My Jenner 7D was the first to go, on a failed charge - proving that it takes a Real Man (TM) to kill a Jenner 7D, so only I could do it. :P
Next were Paladin1's two Mongoosen, Mongeese, um.....yeah. First fell victim to my Wight's snubbie, and the second to Wolflancer4's ArcticFox alpha strike in the rear arc.
Meanwhile, Edward completely screwed up greatsarcasmo's Jackal and waved his hollander's cannon around menacingly. Jay finally arrived at the combat about 4 turns in, just in time to have Roy flank him and vape his Valkery.
I succeeded on a pointless DFA (I couldn't pass it up, had 6s to hit!) on Edward's Hollander, then fell on my can. Managed to regroup a bit, and we focused fire on Edward's Holander and Firebee, rendering both combat ineffective in the last round of the game.
Good times, fellas! I'm off to bed!
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The Firebee is a lethal city fighter.
That Firebee you picked is a HOSS. Love the Plasma/Infernos combo. [rockon]
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I will say I was impressed with the wee wittle Arcitc Fox. Never used it before. I did pretty good picking my mechs considering I didnt really put any thought into them.
Was a fun and great game and thanks for letting me play!
I believe Im going to like it here. :)
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Mongooses. One of those "we have to know" trivia things Greg and I obsessed on a few years back. And amazingly, my steel sieve memory retained it.
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Yeah. At one point he described the 6/9/9, SnPPC, C3 spotter Phoenix Hawk as "mediocre".
He's on crack, if he actually believes that,
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No, you were correct with "unreasonable". IJJs are freakin awesome.
Only on lights/mediums, after that the weight penalty is rather off putting.
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My friend Gerry Swanson made a video parody of Back to the Future. It's pretty funny, and the payoff joke, yeah, it's pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDGaIqk8qM0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDGaIqk8qM0)
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I will say I was impressed with the wee wittle Arcitc Fox. Never used it before. I did pretty good picking my mechs considering I didnt really put any thought into them.
Yeah, you hammered the shit out of us. I've always respected the Arctic Fox, and that configuration was lethal in a city.
I'm going to be watching my wife's birds while she's in Michigan next weekend, so if anyone wants to try a bigger game of MM, I'm up for something Sunday.
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So yeah, the game last night was a blast, even just as a spectator. I have enough on my plate that I'd rarely be able to play such an evening game, but any time some of you guys want a peanut gallery I'll happily join in. The Arctic Fox and the Plasma Rifle on Ed's Firebee both really impressed me. I'd never seen a Plasma Rifle in action before, but it was devastating to that Jackal.
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So yeah, the game last night was a blast, even just as a spectator. I have enough on my plate that I'd rarely be able to play such an evening game, but any time some of you guys want a peanut gallery I'll happily join in. The Arctic Fox and the Plasma Rifle on Ed's Firebee both really impressed me. I'd never seen a Plasma Rifle in action before, but it was devastating to that Jackal.
It was really the inferno SRM salvo that I blasted the Jackal with from my MML launcher, combined with 11 SHS on an ER PPC-toting light 'mech, but yes, the net effect was to ****** the Jackal up mightily. Poor Josh! He probably hates us all now.
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I'd never seen a Plasma Rifle in action before, but Joshwas devastating to that Jackal.
Fixed that for ya. O0
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He probably hates us all now.
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I dunno, ge and I were fb chatting, and he seemed to be having a good time. He's a great guy!
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Fixed that for ya. O0
In fairness to him, the battle was fought in the presence of his mortal enemy, the ground.
He's a great guy!
He absolutely is. Had a great ride home from GenCon with him.
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So yeah, the game last night was a blast, even just as a spectator. I have enough on my plate that I'd rarely be able to play such an evening game, but any time some of you guys want a peanut gallery I'll happily join in. The Arctic Fox and the Plasma Rifle on Ed's Firebee both really impressed me. I'd never seen a Plasma Rifle in action before, but it was devastating to that Jackal.
Sounds like it was fun. Sorry I missed it.
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Yeah, you hammered the shit out of us. I've always respected the Arctic Fox, and that configuration was lethal in a city.
I'm going to be watching my wife's birds while she's in Michigan next weekend, so if anyone wants to try a bigger game of MM, I'm up for something Sunday.
Yeah I was pretty brutal with it. Im actually thinking of getting a mini for it meow. I must be crazy or something. :D
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Yeah I was pretty brutal with it. Im actually thinking of getting a mini for it meow. I must be crazy or something. :D
Perilously close to Wolf-in-Exile territory there, m'man!
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In fairness to him, the battle was fought in the presence of his mortal enemy, the ground.
I'm thinking of taking up Aerotech. He absolutely is. Had a great ride home from GenCon with him.
Aww, y'all made me blush. It was a good time and I always expected the Panther to go up in smoke. Though I hoped it would be a *bit* closer. The initative rolls were killing me.
Also, I notice MDM and I have new titles...
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Also, I notice MDM and I have new titles...
I'm sad MDM's isn't "The Wight Stuff", or "Wight Supremacist".
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I really wanted to bring an Osiris, rather than the Valk, damned design breaking rules revisions! #P
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I really wanted to bring an Osiris, rather than the Valk, damned design breaking rules revisions! #P
We were hurt most by our poor deployment and uncoordinated tactics. Paladin initially gave us an advantage when he smoked MDM's Jenner, but we squandered it two turns later when we didn't all stand off and use our temporary superiority in heavy long ranged guns (the two ER larges in the Mongooses, my LB-10-X, and technically, my plasma rifle) to hammer the enemy at range. We never recovered from losing a third of our force in such quick succession.
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I'm sad MDM's isn't "The Wight Stuff", or "Wight Supremacist".
Hmm, I like them both but I think the latter is pushing up against some rules...
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We were hurt most by our poor deployment and uncoordinated tactics. Paladin initially gave us an advantage when he smoked MDM's Jenner, but we squandered it two turns later when we didn't all stand off and use our temporary superiority in heavy long ranged guns (the two ER larges in the Mongooses, my LB-10-X, and technically, my plasma rifle) to hammer the enemy at range. We never recovered from losing a third of our force in such quick succession.
True, the real kicker was I forgot the wall on that map was six hexes, I thought it was five. Rendered the Valk to pretty much being a spectator for three rounds.
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Perilously close to Wolf-in-Exile territory there, m'man!
Never!
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True, the real kicker was I forgot the wall on that map was six hexes, I thought it was five. Rendered the Valk to pretty much being a spectator for three rounds.
That Valkyrie isn't really a great city fighter anyway. The QD4 would have been a much better choice for that map for a similar BV.
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Yeah it's a little sub optimal but I've had good success with parking it on a roof and shooting down into melees or along streets in the past. Just it's never going to work on THAT map. ;D
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I'm sorry I missed the fight
If such things are going to happen again I'm happy to try to find the relevant version of MM and try to play
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Were playing pretty late UK time, so I hope you're on nights!
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Im up for more games of MM as well. I rarely get a chance to play it. Last night was my second game against another person. I did play a game with Adrian Gideon one time, but with his hectic schedule trying to get a MM game in would be like hearding cats when you cant see. Or hear. With one leg. :D
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Were playing pretty late UK time, so I hope you're on nights!
Yep, hence being on here at this sort of time
Don't think I could get onto MM from work though
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Yep, hence being on here at this sort of time
Don't think I could get onto MM from work though
Course you can! Just have to be very sneaky. ;)
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Evil realization: OGRE miniatures are listed as being in 1/300 scale, and therefore suitable for CBT conversion.
Time to dust off OGREthulhu... [brew]
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Course you can! Just have to be very sneaky. ;)
Work is fairly monolithic and there is also the chance of getting called away at any time :(
On the other hand, I do get nice bits of time off and am, by nature, more nocturnal than "morning person"
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Work is fairly monolithic and there is also the chance of getting called away at any time :(
On the other hand, I do get nice bits of time off and am, by nature, more nocturnal than "morning person"
:P
I cant really say anything though. Would be impossible for me to play MM at work. Course I do construction... #P
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I cant really say anything though. Would be impossible for me to play MM at work. Course I do construction... #P
I'm an Intensive Care doctor, apparently the patients I'm looking after might be poorly! Who'd ha' thunk it?
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So yeah, the game last night was a blast, even just as a spectator. I have enough on my plate that I'd rarely be able to play such an evening game, but any time some of you guys want a peanut gallery I'll happily join in. The Arctic Fox and the Plasma Rifle on Ed's Firebee both really impressed me. I'd never seen a Plasma Rifle in action before, but it was devastating to that Jackal.
I'll gladly second that thought, now that I'm at least partially recovered from dealing with the ass-raping that the Arctic Fox gave my Mongoose. I completely forgot that thing could jump.
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We were hurt most by our poor deployment and uncoordinated tactics. Paladin initially gave us an advantage when he smoked MDM's Jenner, but we squandered it two turns later when we didn't all stand off and use our temporary superiority in heavy long ranged guns (the two ER larges in the Mongooses, my LB-10-X, and technically, my plasma rifle) to hammer the enemy at range. We never recovered from losing a third of our force in such quick succession.
Hey, I did stand off. I just didn't stand off far enough away from MDM's Wight. When that failed, I tried to blend in with the south wall and WL4 pointed out the flaw inherent in my master plan.
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I'm an Intensive Care doctor, apparently the patients I'm looking after might be poorly! Who'd ha' thunk it?
Ah ok. I withdraw my previous statement about playing MM at work. You should NEVER play that at work good sir! What were you thinking? ;)
I'll gladly second that thought, now that I'm at least partially recovered from dealing with the ass-raping that the Arctic Fox gave my Mongoose. I completely forgot that thing could jump.
Look on the bright side. You werent the only guy that suffered the Arctic Fox in the rear arc last night.
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Im up for more games of MM as well. I rarely get a chance to play it. Last night was my second game against another person. I did play a game with Adrian Gideon one time, but with his hectic schedule trying to get a MM game in would be like hearding cats when you cant see. Or hear. With one leg. :D
Same here, last night was my first MM game against a live opponent and I'm ready for another whenever you guys are up for it.
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Same here, last night was my first MM game against a live opponent and I'm ready for another whenever you guys are up for it.
Excellent! Ill bring my Arctic Fox!
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Look on the bright side. You werent the only guy that suffered the Arctic Fox in the rear arc last night.
True, you did get in behind our flanking force once it found the map.
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Excellent! Ill bring my Arctic Fox!
And I'll bring something other than a Mongoose.
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Excellent! Ill bring my Arctic Fox!
Can I bring a Pillager, Devestator and Thunderhawk then?
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And I'll bring something other than a Mongoose.
Might I suggest an assault mech? Hehe!
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Might I suggest an assault mech? Hehe!
Hmm, no, I don't see that happening. Maybe a nice fast medium or something with a LBX of some sort.
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Can I bring a Pillager, Devestator and Thunderhawk then?
I'm pretty sure that 3CL has a Hollander lying around somewhere. It's even still got it's full ammo load. :P
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Hey, I did stand off. I just didn't stand off far enough away from MDM's Wight. When that failed, I tried to blend in with the south wall and WL4 pointed out the flaw inherent in my master plan.
No worries, there was no way you could know the plan that I only had in my head and never mentioned to anyone else; I could have almost as easily moved to support you, too.
Next time we do this, I think skype might not be a bad idea, though then we miss out on a lot of the trash talk.
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No worries, there was no way you could know the plan that I only had in my head and never mentioned to anyone else; I could have almost as easily moved to support you, too.
Next time we do this, I think skype might not be a bad idea, though then we miss out on a lot of the trash talk.
Skype? What, and actually plan out a move beyond "WHEEEEEE IMAFIRINMALAZERS"
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Hmm, no, I don't see that happening. Maybe a nice fast medium or something with a LBX of some sort.
Does the Enfield have an LB?
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No worries, there was no way you could know the plan that I only had in my head and never mentioned to anyone else; I could have almost as easily moved to support you, too.
Next time we do this, I think skype might not be a bad idea, though then we miss out on a lot of the trash talk.
Skype? What, and actually plan out a move beyond "WHEEEEEE IMAFIRINMALAZERS"
Pah, tactics are the last refuge of cowards and those who fail to take the most MunchieTech units on the board
Next you will want to use completely optimised units brought together from all possible factions and time periods rather than using an appropiately tailored time specific faction based formation
Does the Enfield have an LB?
Yes
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Does the Enfield have an LB?
Yeah, but so does the Enforcer and Centurion, plus they don't have the problem with FF that the Enfield does.
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Next you will want to use completely optimised units brought together from all possible factions and time periods rather than using an appropriately tailored time specific faction based formation
Evil DoctorMonkey, get out of my head. Yes, I have an appropriately tailored, time specific, faction based formation. I'm just never going to be able to finish painting it.
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Yeah, but so does the Enforcer and Centurion, plus they don't have the problem with FF that the Enfield does.
Forgive me. I dont really know much about IS mechs. I generally know their basic stats but not battlefield performance.
Random thought....
I am a HUGE fan of the Teal'c school of interrogation.
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If it makes you feel any better, I don't know what he's talking about right there.
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Look on the bright side. You werent the only guy that suffered the Arctic Fox in the rear arc last night.
Revenge shall be had!
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If it makes you feel any better, I don't know what he's talking about right there.
I'm referring to the problems that MM has with certain designs which utilize FF armor. We had a couple of designs last night, the Osiris and Scarabus, that were not able to be used due to the way armor points are calculated under TW-rules.
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Aaaahh, yeah, that one. I tend to just allow illegal designs, then delete the unofficial file.
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Looking to play some MegaMek this afternoon, very happy to play against Team Davion or whoever. I generally prefer the most recent version but I do have 34.9 installed.
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If it makes you feel any better, I don't know what he's talking about right there.
It's a Stargate SG1 reference.
Force
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So, second Combine company idea:
Warhammer IIC 8
No-Dachi (unsure, maybe I want this in the C3 company?)
Daikyu
Wolverine
Grasshopper
BJ2-O Blackjack
Panther
Panther
Akuma
Marauder II
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?
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Gunslinger! Love that Mech. Maybe a Sunder as well.
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Sunder with the AC20 and all the SRM4s is a lot of fun.
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Sunder with the AC20 and all the SRM4s is a lot of fun.
Prime, right? No C3? Maybe I should have that as the first company's Sunder config.
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That final lance absolutely screams for a BNZ-X.
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Have you secured a figure yet?
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Have you secured a figure yet?
A BNZ-X mini? That'd have to be converted. If you mean have I bought any Drac 'mechs, I purchased a company last week.
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A BNZ-X mini? That'd have to be converted. If you mean have I bought any Drac 'mechs, I purchased a company last week.
Lucky bastige ...
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Lucky bastige ...
It's from the last paycheck not subject to stringent congressional oversight. Shortly I can expect funding to be transferred from defense spending to social programs like room and board, and cockatiel feed, which is, it turns out, obscenely expensive.
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It's from the last paycheck not subject to stringent congressional oversight. Shortly I can expect funding to be transferred from defense spending to social programs like room and board, and cockatiel feed, which is, it turns out, obscenely expensive.
Looks as if butter has finally won out over guns in one part of FedSuns' space. ;D
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It's from the last paycheck not subject to stringent congressional oversight. Shortly I can expect funding to be transferred from defense spending to social programs like room and board, and cockatiel feed, which is, it turns out, obscenely expensive.
I believe that in an emergency cockatiel can be turned into a single use cat feed. This may be along the lines of the string of suggestions that any esoteric or roleplay-heavy AFV got in the *otW articles would make a great carbomb!
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I believe that in an emergency cockatiel can be turned into a single use cat feed.
Jellicoe the cat has been inherited by my brother, as I was politely informed that if any harm befell Peaches, it would be the end of my marriage.
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Jellicoe the cat has been inherited by my brother, as I was politely informed that if any harm befell Peaches, it would be the end of my marriage.
Seems to me the cat could be your best friend, then. ;)
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Seems to me the cat could be your best friend, then. ;)
Sure, but miniatures aren't very good at spooning.
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Sure, but miniatures aren't very good at spooning.
He makes an excellent point.
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So you don't have any resculpts then? ;)
Sure, but miniatures aren't very good at spooning.
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So you don't have any resculpts then? ;)
/facepalm
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/facepalm
Have to get used to that type of thing, dealing with Team Davion on a regular basis. ;)
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Oh I thought it was funny. This kind of stuff I can deal with. :)
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Oh I thought it was funny. This kind of stuff I can deal with. :)
Well, it was better than McBain: Let's Get Silly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRNOjFl4bC0&feature=related).
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Sure, but miniatures aren't very good at spooning.
Amanda says the same thing about Glenlivet. Solidarity, brother!
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Amanda says the same thing about Glenlivet. Solidarity, brother!
I can curl around Talisker or Glenmorangie just fine.
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I normally tell our (black) cat not to question which I love more, my laptop or her
Ditto tea versus the cat - she might not like the answers!
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It's funny how cat fur defies the Law of Conservation of Mass. I can always tell when the cats have been fighting as there is more cat fur on the floor than the cats, who show no bare patches, could have had prior to losing any.
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My half-Siberian Husky approves of that comment.
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It's funny how cat fur defies the Law of Conservation of Mass. I can always tell when the cats have been fighting as there is more cat fur on the floor than the cats, who show no bare patches, could have had prior to losing any.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to find out my cat sheds more than her bodyweight every year.
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Y'know, we've been in this house five years and we still find dog hair from the previous owners German Shepherd.
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I can curl around Talisker or Glenmorangie just fine.
at least....that's how you wake up every morning...
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at least....that's how you wake up every morning...
Hey, the bottle never gripes about morning breath.
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That's good enough to be a Merle Haggard lyric.
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That's good enough to be a Merle Haggard lyric.
I believe I know who that is. I need to return to DC immediately, been in the South too long. :(
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I believe I know who that is. I need to return to DC immediately, been in the South too long. :(
Be careful or I'll start sending country YouTube videos to your MSN account.
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Be careful or I'll start sending country YouTube videos to your MSN account.
Do your worst; I don't use that for emails.
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Who said anything about email?
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Who said anything about email?
After 10 years of Panda's links on IRC, I'm not afraid of you.
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I believe I know who that is. I need to return to DC immediately, been in the South too long. :(
My wife had the same reaction without the Merle Haggert mention.
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My wife had the same reaction without the Merle Haggert mention.
'Oh, you're from Scotland?! My family's from Scotland County!' That's after the guessing game(English, Irish, etc) I get when speaking to strangers.
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What's wrong with the South other than the heat, the humidity, and a lot of the people?
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What's wrong with the South other than the heat, the humidity, and a lot of the people?
Like most places, Jacksonville, NC must be experienced to be understood. I saw that having spent eleven years of my life there over four tours of duty (well three of mine and one of my Dad's).
My half-Siberian Husky approves of that comment.
Speaking of my Dad, he's random boxes of mine that I'm certain have portions of two Malemutes in them.
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I'm from the Atlanta area, personally.
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Blah, I like Merle. And country music. We're in Chicago to see the Cubs tonight. Found out after we git here I'm on call. Mea culpa... Had to 'put' Mom in the Hospital as a cover story...
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I'm from the Atlanta area, personally.
And I'm certain ATL is very pleasant...much like anywhere other than J-ville, NC. The South's only sin in my eyes is that J-ville, NC is in it.
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What's wrong with the South other than the heat, the humidity, and a lot of the people?
DC has worse humidity than my part of NC(built on a swamp), its just as hot and the rest of the country sends their ugly peopletourists and idiotspoliticians. Yet somehow, the South is worse.
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Speaking of Atlanta, we're beating them 3-0 in the fourth.
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Speaking of Atlanta, we're beating them 3-0 in the fourth.
The "we" in the previous statement is clearly not the Nats who are losing 4-0 to Arizona at the moment.
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Blah, I like Merle. And country music. We're in Chicago to see the Cubs tonight. Found out after we git here I'm on call. Mea culpa... Had to 'put' Mom in the Hospital as a cover story...
Man I forgot! You should've called, I had to work late, we could have done dinner...you know, if you wanted to drive into the Loop for no good reason.
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We rode the train. Then walked. Then rode a train in the tunnel. I have no idea how we got here, or really 'where' we are. Other then Wrigley.
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We rode the train. Then walked. Then rode a train in the tunnel. I have no idea how we got here, or really 'where' we are. Other then Wrigley.
In that case, you were almost certainly right by me, as I work a mile from both Union and Ogilvy Metra stations.
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Damn! Yes we were! Sucky!
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Damn! Yes we were! Sucky!
Well, now you know for the future!
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Ogilvy confused me. I stepped in and thought, "Where's the train station? On the other side of the shopping mall?"
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Ogilvy confused me. I stepped in and thought, "Where's the train station? On the other side of the shopping mall?"
It certainly feels less like a train station than any of the other major terminuses (terminii?) I've been in. Of course, Union feels like Minos's labyrinth, so of the two I prefer Ogilvy.
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It certainly feels less like a train station than any of the other major terminuses (terminii?) I've been in. Of course, Union feels like Minos's labyrinth, so of the two I prefer Ogilvy.
I never thought of Daedelus' creation operating in three dimensions, but it makes sense, yes.
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What's wrong with the South other than the heat, the humidity, and a lot of the people?
The music and the schools?
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The music and the schools?
Nothing wrong with Southern rock or the blues. Even country has some decent songs.
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The music and the schools?
Johnny Cash
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Okay, how's this?
NGA-3B Naginata
PXH-7K Phoenix Hawk
HTM-27T Hatamoto-Chi
MAL-C Mauler
CP-11-C Cyclops
NDA-2KC No-Dachi
GHR-6K Grasshopper
CRB-C Crab
DRG-9KC Grand Dragon
HM-2 Hitman
OW-1 Owens
TLN-5Z Talon
A C3 company. I worry that it's too light on firepower and too heavy on spotters.
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Needs a Gunslinger C3M. Could use a similar mech to the GRH, that tough, hard to kill bastard that gets right in their face and spots when the small fry can't.
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised to find out my cat sheds more than her bodyweight every year.
Over a year, sure, but this is several times each week.
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Okay, how's this?
NGA-3B Naginata
PXH-7K Phoenix Hawk
HTM-27T Hatamoto-Chi
MAL-C Mauler
CP-11-C Cyclops
NDA-2KC No-Dachi
GHR-6K Grasshopper
CRB-C Crab
DRG-9KC Grand Dragon
HM-2 Hitman
OW-1 Owens
TLN-5Z Talon
A C3 company. I worry that it's too light on firepower and too heavy on spotters.
No Wight? You're fired. :P
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No Wight? You're fired. :P
Indeed. That company should be all Wight.
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That'd be all Wight by me...
I really dig the Ninja-to, too bad it's archived...
Had a good time at the game. I have no idea how people could ride the 'L' all the time. I like my personal space WAY to much...
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Listening to sarcasmo describe the joys of urban life alongside the complaints against Southern rural life is fairly entertaining.
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Over a year, sure, but this is several times each week.
Okay, that's impressive.
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I have no idea how people could ride the 'L' all the time. I like my personal space WAY to much...
I'm not a fan of it myself, but keep in mind that when you ride Chicago public transit to and from Cubs game, you're seeing the system at maximum capacity. Metra's where it's at, though.
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I'm not a fan of it myself, but keep in mind that when you ride Chicago public transit to and from Cubs game, you're seeing the system at maximum capacity. Metra's where it's at, though.
I'll see your Chicago Metra and raise you the London Underground - built since the 1860s it can often be insanely busy but fortunately for getting it to places we live near one end so can essentially always get a seat... getting home again is another story :(
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When I was in Earl's Court, I was pleasantly impressed with the London Underground, and likewise with British Rail on my excursion to Cambridgeshire. Both very nice by US standards.
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When I was in Earl's Court, I was pleasantly impressed with the London Underground, and likewise with British Rail on my excursion to Cambridgeshire. Both very nice by US standards.
Fair enough but just about all of our towns/cities are poorly laid out for driving so it's really swings and roundabouts. The only place in the US where I tried to use public transport was downtown New York... which is practically English with it's small wriggly roads (I felt almost at home around Wall Street)
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Fair enough but just about all of our towns/cities are poorly laid out for driving so it's really swings and roundabouts. The only place in the US where I tried to use public transport was downtown New York... which is practically English with it's small wriggly roads (I felt almost at home around Wall Street)
I rarely drive (until yesterday, only my wife had a car; mine perished earlier this year when the transmission failed), and a roundabout would probably kill me, but I'm an inveterate walker. Anything within five miles is "walking distance", and with my camelback, I'm prepared to go as far as eight or nine.
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I rarely drive (until yesterday, only my wife had a car; mine perished earlier this year when the transmission failed), and a roundabout would probably kill me, but I'm an inveterate walker. Anything within five miles is "walking distance", and with my camelback, I'm prepared to go as far as eight or nine.
I tried walking around Shreveport LA and Salt Lake City UT but often ran out of pavement (side walk) and got odd looks for doing it!
I certainly prefer walking to catching a bus and my usual route to work is about 20mins on the Northern Line and then a 1.4 mile walk... I'm also planning to start cycling (it is only about 7 miles to work) but haven't got around to it yet!
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The worst traffic I've ever encountered was Paris. It's a free-for-all, no cares if you get away with it sort of place. Not good for your stress levels at all!
The french do have a better railway system than us though, so I guess it evens out.
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I. hate. Roundabouts. The road I live off, they wanted to put in a 1.5 million $ round-about. Everybody chastised the county engineer for being an idiot, it's not like we even KNOW how to use one. Also a four way stop only would cost aboy $50K. Soo.....
I don't mind walking, it's just the time involved...
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The worst traffic I've ever encountered was Paris. It's a free-for-all, no cares if you get away with it sort of place. Not good for your stress levels at all! The french do have a better railway system than us though.
My policy is to try like crazy to avoid driving on the Continent. In the US, I couldn't believe how slowly everyone moved off traffic lights etc due to the large heavy cars and automatic gearboxes. Australia was fine until a landtrain came up behind me...
I. hate. Roundabouts. The road I live off, they wanted to put in a 1.5 million $ round-about. Everybody chastised the county engineer for being an idiot, it's not like we even KNOW how to use one. Also a four way stop only would cost aboy $50K. Soo.....
I don't mind walking, it's just the time involved...
I think the problem you have with roundabouts is how slowly your cars accelerate - you would indeed be stuck waiting for ages for a gap large enough to move. We have various roundabouts being turned into junctions and junctions being turned into roundabouts just to keep people confused with new layouts...
Probably the funniest thing I have seen is zebra crossings being turned into pelican crossings (see Wikipedia if you don't understand these things) - outside my school we had a 20 minute or so continuous stream of pupils walking from the train station to the school with the traffic completely unable to move... so they changed the crossing type :)
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Blacksburg here is putting in a roundabout with the more or less explicit goal of keeping people from driving through downtown. Apparently they want the back streets snarled instead.
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I rather enjoy roundabouts, myself. 8)
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Anything within five miles is "walking distance", and with my camelback, I'm prepared to go as far as eight or nine.
OK, so you like to walk because of your camel toe? I mean, that's all I see when I read that.
What?
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OK, so you like to walk because of your camel toe? I mean, that's all I see when I read that.
Geoff needs a woman, exhibit #237 in a series.
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Roundabouts aren't bad in a low traffic situation. There's one in Gordonsville, VA that is actually fairly nice as long as the traffic is light but God help the person who has to try to use it during peak traffic hours.
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Geoff needs a woman, exhibit #237 in a series.
Damn Geoff. You got OWNED!
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Okay, how's this?
NGA-3B Naginata
PXH-7K Phoenix Hawk
HTM-27T Hatamoto-Chi
MAL-C Mauler
CP-11-C Cyclops
NDA-2KC No-Dachi
GHR-6K Grasshopper
CRB-C Crab
DRG-9KC Grand Dragon
HM-2 Hitman
OW-1 Owens
TLN-5Z Talon
A C3 company. I worry that it's too light on firepower and too heavy on spotters.
I think your worry is correct. Here's how I'd tweak it.
NGA-3C Naginata
GUN-2ERD Gunslinger
HTM-28Tr Hatamoto-Chi
MAL-3R Mauler
BLR-K3 BattleMaster
NDA-2KC No-Dachi
GHR-7K Grasshopper
BHKU-OF Black Hawk-KU
DRG-9KC Grand Dragon
PXH-7K Phoenix Hawk
HM-2 Hitman
OW-1 Owens
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Man, that Beemer's a bitch to convert...awww, and you took out my favorite DCMS 'mech, the mighty Mauler-C, or "Mega-Blackjack", as I like to call it.
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What makes that (I assume) Battlemaster so difficult to convert?
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What makes that (I assume) Battlemaster so difficult to convert?
Here's the BLR-K3:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Blr-k3_battlemaster.png
And here's the version the mini's based on:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Blr-4s_battlemaster.jpg
Changelist:
RA hand needs to be removed, torso lasers need removing, shoulder baffles need to be filed off.
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Ah, I was just looking at the record sheet and missed that it lost a hand, so thought it was just about removing some torso lasers.
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Here's the BLR-K3:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Blr-k3_battlemaster.png
And here's the version the mini's based on:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Blr-4s_battlemaster.jpg
Changelist:
RA hand needs to be removed, torso lasers need removing, shoulder baffles need to be filed off.
Somebody call the Waaaaambulance!!!!!!
Seriously, send me the mini and I'll kitbash/paint it for ya. O0
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Somebody call the Waaaaambulance!!!!!!
Seriously, send me the mini and I'll kitbash/paint it for ya. O0
I'd prefer they were all painted to the same low standard. Plus, I actually do enjoy the challenge of converting.
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*grumblemuttertrytohelpoutandjustgetsnubbedmuttermuttergrumble*
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*grumblemuttertrytohelpoutandjustgetsnubbedmuttermuttergrumble*
Not at all, man! I just know that if I set out a battalion of Kuritan 'mechs on the table, and four are MDM paint jobs, and 32 are 3CL paint jobs, the contrast will be awfully severe.
Anyway, I thought you were talking about doing the F-S Lancers?
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Not at all, man! I just know that if I set out a battalion of Kuritan 'mechs on the table, and four are MDM paint jobs, and 32 are 3CL paint jobs, the contrast will be awfully severe.
Anyway, I thought you were talking about doing the F-S Lancers?
Oh, so you're gonna let me?
SWEET!
Alternately, I could do the command 'Mechs for each lance.
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Alternately, I could do the command 'Mechs for each lance.
I like this idea. I ordered the second company of the DCMS, so maybe at some point we should hash out and BV2 up both sides in full so we can plan for the future.
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Actually on the beemer, it looks like you could fill the baffles on the arm and even them out. Between the pictures, the K3 looks like it has some beef on the upper arm.
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Actually on the beemer, it looks like you could fill the baffles on the arm and even them out. Between the pictures, the K3 looks like it has some beef on the upper arm.
Yup.
Just like Ray did on his epic bash for the Jackson Davion (may he rest in exalted peace) Battlemaster.
(http://camospecs.com/images/schemes/19_ArrastiaJDBMaster01.jpg)
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Actually on the beemer, it looks like you could fill the baffles on the arm and even them out. Between the pictures, the K3 looks like it has some beef on the upper arm.
I've done the conversion before, actually, for me it works better to file them off.
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I like this idea. I ordered the second company of the DCMS, so maybe at some point we should hash out and BV2 up both sides in full so we can plan for the future.
That'd actually be ideal. I can only paint 1 'Mech in the time it takes you to do 3 anyhow. :D
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You mean I'm supposed to build and paint these minis and not just continue buying them?! :o No one ever told me! :'(
I've only built a handful of minis since I moved, and have an absurd number that need to be stripped/built/painted.
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You mean I'm supposed to build and paint these minis and not just continue buying them?! :o No one ever told me! :'(
I've only built a handful of minis since I moved, and have an absurd number that need to be stripped/built/painted.
I've had this same problem for four moves over five years. Basically, I suck.
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I've had this same problem for four moves over five years. Basically, I suck.
Hey, you have that whole "Active Duty Marine" thing to account for your time Matt. I've got scads of these buggers laying around, half-finished and don't have an excuse other than "don't feel like getting high from paint stripper tonight".
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I've had this same problem for four moves over five years. Basically, I suck.
Aye, you made it back to civilization before I did. You do suck. :P
On another note, damn the incoming class for plumbing is dumb. I'm not talking about their plumbing knowledge; I'm talking true basics for tradesmen. How the hell can an adult not read a bloody tape rule? Or be able to handle fractions(5-7/8" + 14-3/16" type numbers)? There's no math pre-reqs for the course, as the instructor can teach 'plumber's math' which is all very basic stuff and some of these students are why.
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They can't read a tape? ??? What the hell have these idiots been doing?
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I'm with Paladin1 here.
A few years back, a senior E-5 at my command was talking about how his division's junior guy didn't know what a Phillip's head screwdriver was. Mind you, all mechanical rates in the submarine force (Auxiliary MM's, Torpedomen, Missile Technicans, and god help them, Nuclear MM's) go through a "Tools for Dummies" course as part of the pipeline.
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They can't read a tape? ??? What the hell have these idiots been doing?
Best example is the runt that was in the US Army. Strutting around, all 5'5" of him, running his mouth non-stop. He can't read a tape; he can't use a hammer for anything. And then he asks the big, ex-prison guard good old boy if he should go into the prison system for the sake of busting heads. We're not even two weeks into the semester and I nearly got into it with him once already. Its like a caricature from Jersey Shore, right down to the Sicilian tattoo on his arm.
This isn't all the ex-service guys, or all the students by any means, but easily 5 in the class of 12 I don't see passing.
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I'm with Paladin1 here.
A few years back, a senior E-5 at my command was talking about how his division's junior guy didn't know what a Phillip's head screwdriver was. Mind you, all mechanical rates in the submarine force (Auxiliary MM's, Torpedomen, Missile Technicans, and god help them, Nuclear MM's) go through a "Tools for Dummies" course as part of the pipeline.
The one USN guy that was in knew his stuff, probably the sharpest one in the course overall. He was carrier flight crew.
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Aye, you made it back to civilization before I did. You do suck. :P
Yes, yes I did. Speaking of civilization, Potomac Mills is just across I-95 from me. I spent a good chunk of my free time rebuilding my Lego Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series sets. Very relaxing, even when I then had to take them apart before moving. So, I am looking forward to building the "now available" Super Star Destroyer with my free time.
I still need to paint. For a while I was contemplating a convoluted fan build sponsoring scheme through Sawbones but commissioning someone to paint one or two minis for me and use the rest as payment for the painted minis. The point being, I don't need anymore unpainted minis under my desk or in storage.
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Yes, yes I did. Speaking of civilization, Potomac Mills is just across I-95 from me. I spent a good chunk of my free time rebuilding my Lego Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series sets. Very relaxing, even when I then had to take them apart before moving. So, I am looking forward to building the "now available" Super Star Destroyer with my free time.
I still need to paint. For a while I was contemplating a convoluted fan build sponsoring scheme through Sawbones but commissioning someone to paint one or two minis for me and use the rest as payment for the painted minis. The point being, I don't need anymore unpainted minis under my desk or in storage.
Legos don't do it for me anymore. I think my creative side of things is pretty well dead, as I never cared for building the actual things, just making my own stuff.
The painting for minis ordered is not a bad idea; hit Zuggo if you need Warships, I have about a half-dozen of his. Still have about half my funding money left over, holding out for the Sling and other new infantry/BA before I use it up. Considering funding the Arbiter when it opens back up(unless its already been done, don't think it has).
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I'm with Paladin1 here...
*points to the still smoking scrap heap that used to be 2 Mongoosen*
Nerd, we've got some pretty good evidence here that you're in the worst place possible right about now...
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Legos don't do it for me anymore. I think my creative side of things is pretty well dead, as I never cared for building the actual things, just making my own stuff.
The painting for minis ordered is not a bad idea; hit Zuggo if you need Warships, I have about a half-dozen of his. Still have about half my funding money left over, holding out for the Sling and other new infantry/BA before I use it up. Considering funding the Arbiter when it opens back up(unless its already been done, don't think it has).
I'm more focused on 'Mech, Vehicles, and BA. I liked funding the Prowler tank because it was obscure and overlooked. I would like to support variants (like the G, H, T, of the ENF-6) or other obscure miniatures (Phalanx Amphib tank). Also, I can hear my wife saying, "just how lazy are you?" I need to paint. Maybe this weekend.
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The one USN guy that was in knew his stuff, probably the sharpest one in the course overall. He was carrier flight crew.
Those guys are in a similar get smart or get out situation as submariners.
I'm working in a sandblasting/powdercoating/sanding/painting facility off hull that's also being used by the carrier currently at PSNS. One of the few guys off it I don't think is worthless is one of the flight deck types.
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*points to the still smoking scrap heap that used to be 2 Mongoosen*
Nerd, we've got some pretty good evidence here that you're in the worst place possible right about now...
Hey, that'll be enough outta you! Not my fault they weren't quality Davion machines, I mean really, I had to work with what I had. ;D
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I'm more focused on 'Mech, Vehicles, and BA. I liked funding the Prowler tank because it was obscure and overlooked. I would like to support variants (like the G, H, T, of the ENF-6) or other obscure miniatures (Phalanx Amphib tank). Also, I can hear my wife saying, "just how lazy are you?" I need to paint. Maybe this weekend.
I wouldn't mind a better-sized Enforcer III to start with, its long been my favourite Mech from 3060. The mini is tiny. Its shoulders beg for ball joint arms.
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Best example is the runt that was in the US Army. Strutting around, all 5'5" of him, running his mouth non-stop. He can't read a tape; he can't use a hammer for anything. And then he asks the big, ex-prison guard good old boy if he should go into the prison system for the sake of busting heads. We're not even two weeks into the semester and I nearly got into it with him once already. Its like a caricature from Jersey Shore, right down to the Sicilian tattoo on his arm.
This isn't all the ex-service guys, or all the students by any means, but easily 5 in the class of 12 I don't see passing.
Can't read a tape, can't use a hammer and a walking Jersey Shore caricature? Remind me again why the South is so bad? :P
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Can't read a tape, can't use a hammer and a walking Jersey Shore caricature? Remind me again why the South is so bad? :P
He's from the South; a native Fayettevillain.
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I'm more focused on 'Mech, Vehicles, and BA. I liked funding the Prowler tank because it was obscure and overlooked. I would like to support variants (like the G, H, T, of the ENF-6) or other obscure miniatures (Phalanx Amphib tank). Also, I can hear my wife saying, "just how lazy are you?" I need to paint. Maybe this weekend.
You helped fund the Prowler? I owe you a heart-felt "Thank You" and a beer the next time we game together then, that little baby is one of my favorite tanks.
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He's from the South; a native Fayettevillain.
Oh dear God, that's just not right. He's gotta be a transplant or something then, cause no Southern man would ever admit to being unable to use basic handtools like that.
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Oh dear God, that's just not right. He's gotta be a transplant or something then, cause no Southern man would ever admit to being unable to use basic handtools like that.
He didn't admit it, it was there for everyone to see. ;D
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You helped fund the Prowler? I owe you a heart-felt "Thank You" and a beer the next time we game together then, that little baby is one of my favorite tanks.
Yup, my lone contribution to the CBT universe.
I wouldn't mind a better-sized Enforcer III to start with, its long been my favourite Mech from 3060. The mini is tiny. Its shoulders beg for ball joint arms.
Good point. I also think the G, H, T, would be too easy to have as in-blister mods.
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He didn't admit it, it was there for everyone to see. ;D
Well, you're in luck because in NC, someone being "Too Stupid to Live" is still considered a valid defense for murder.
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Yup, my lone contribution to the CBT universe.Good point. I also think the G, H, T, would be too easy to have as in-blister mods.
Still waiting for the Sling, Theseus BA and some 3085 PBI to be released for mine.
I think an arms sprue for a slightly larger ENF-6M/G/H/T would be awesome. Let's make it happen.
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I just want an Enforcer resculpt that doesn't look like it got hit in the face with a frying pan.
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Still waiting for the Sling, Theseus BA and some 3085 PBI to be released for mine.
I think an arms sprue for a slightly larger ENF-6M/G/H/T would be awesome. Let's make it happen.
I think the biggest problem, aside from fan financing being shut down, is that there isn't any art for them.
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I wouldn't mind a better-sized Enforcer III to start with, its long been my favourite Mech from 3060. The mini is tiny. Its shoulders beg for ball joint arms.
I love the ENF, but the mini looks good and I'm loathe to see a repeat of the Enforcer I resculpt.
I'd want to see either the Morrigan or the Fennec funded, personally. Might look into it if my raise happens.
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I think the biggest problem, aside from fan financing being shut down, is that there isn't any art for them.
Fan Financing is shut down?
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Fan Financing is shut down?
THere's a huge backlog of stuff needing to be sculpted/released. Its a good shutdown.
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Nice!
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He didn't admit it, it was there for everyone to see. ;D
It'd be the same with me if I tried. On the other hand, I never claimed I know how to use one and I'm not studying to be a plumber, either.
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I think the biggest problem, aside from fan financing being shut down, is that there isn't any art for them.
We could bug CGL for it...
I just want an Enforcer resculpt that doesn't look like it got hit in the face with a frying pan.
I love the ENF, but the mini looks good and I'm loathe to see a repeat of the Enforcer I resculpt.
Not especially interested in the 3025 Enforcer; I liked the original except the stupid arm poses. I don't mind the RE, the legs just need some bulk. Actually, I might be better off cutting off the original's arms and using the RE's...
I too like the Enforcer III mini but its tiny and again has a stupid arm pose, which I hate. Its a great mini to paint.
I'd want to see either the Morrigan or the Fennec funded, personally. Might look into it if my raise happens.
I'm not pro-Davion enough to help with those ones, and dislike the Fennec's looks to boot.
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I'm not pro-Davion enough to help with those ones, and dislike the Fennec's looks to boot.
I love the Fennec's looks, but the Morrigan is a Drac/CNC 'mech.
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I love the ENF, but the mini looks good and I'm loathe to see a repeat of the Enforcer I resculpt.
That's why I'm interesting in variants but it would be nice if IWM and Catalyst could tie the art to sculpt a little bit more tightly. I'm not a WYSIWYG person but I do like that aspect of TRO: PP.
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I love the Fennec's looks, but the Morrigan is a Drac/CNC 'mech.
By His Noodly Appendage, the Morrigan is hideous. I'd go for the Cuirass if I was doing anything for the FS, and the Sphinx for the Cats. The snakes can do it without my help! :P But I'm not liking a lot of the recent Mechs, so I seem to be in the minority.
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By His Noodly Appendage, the Morrigan is hideous. I'd go for the Cuirass if I was doing anything for the FS, and the Sphinx for the Cats. The snakes can do it without my help! :P But I'm not liking a lot of the recent Mechs, so I seem to be in the minority.
The Morrigan is awful, it looks like an escapee from early 1990s RIFTS. The Cuirass is dog shit, man.
Personally, I think TRO 3085 is saved from being the worst TRO of the post-FASA era only thanks to TRO: VA.
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The Morrigan is awful, it looks like an escapee from early 1990s RIFTS. The Cuirass is dog shit, man.
Personally, I think TRO 3085 is saved from being the worst TRO of the post-FASA era only thanks to TRO: VA.
The Fennec is a half-assed Ost-wannabe, and if I have to put up with the Ebony, the Parash and all the Crappy Cappy Mechs, you can deal with the Cuirass! Though I wouldn't mind funding a DDC Ti Tsang with arms that don't make it look like it needs a hug. Did the FS ever get that Templar with a C3M made canon?
I think I only opened TRO VA once, when I bought it. After that, haven't seen any need.
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I'm with Paladin1 here.
A few years back, a senior E-5 at my command was talking about how his division's junior guy didn't know what a Phillip's head screwdriver was. Mind you, all mechanical rates in the submarine force (Auxiliary MM's, Torpedomen, Missile Technicans, and god help them, Nuclear MM's) go through a "Tools for Dummies" course as part of the pipeline.
When I went to A school oh so many moons ago we actually had a guy in our class get caught cheating on a quiz of "Name that Tool." I was in one of the first classes to go through the nuclear power specialist A school when things were in Orlando.
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Well I spent most of my day painting on three minis. Two Fire Mandrill mechs, in Mattilla Carol colors, a Warhawk and Shadow Cat. Those guys are a learning experience. First time ever painting in yellow. Fun. :P
The third mini is a Battle Cobra in Steel Viper Alpha Galaxy. Now this mini is rocking! It turned out WAY better than I was hoping for and I am quite proud of the little guy. As a matter of fact he is sitting here on my computer desk next to me.
Hmmmm. Perhaps I should send him to the Chatterweb...
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The Fennec is a half-assed Ost-wannabe, and if I have to put up with the Ebony, the Parash and all the Crappy Cappy Mechs, you can deal with the Cuirass!
The Cuirass artwork is not the problem. The Cuirass stats are the problem. Who would willingly use it?
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The Cuirass artwork is not the problem. The Cuirass stats are the problem. Who would willingly use it?
I would, I don't mind it so much; the SHS are OK given the RAC. The thin rear armour harkens to the ENF-4R. Its a Neko mech, to finish off the wounded.
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I would, I don't mind it so much; the SHS are OK given the RAC. The thin rear armour harkens to the ENF-4R. Its a Neko mech, to finish off the wounded.
We already have the Javelin and Osiris for that, or the Thanatos.
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We already have the Javelin and Osiris for that, or the Thanatos.
When did that ever stop the military-industrial complex? These are the same people that gave you that silly ERLL Myrmidon.
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Just curious but what makes the ERLL Myrmidon silly?
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Just curious but what makes the ERLL Myrmidon silly?
It takes a near-perfect medium tank and turns it into a useless niche machine. 6 LMGs and an ERLL, IIRC? Totally unnecessary.
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Whoa wait. Im not to good on IS stuff but IIRC the Myrmidon has a PPC on it, with some additional weapons maybe, but they exchanged the PPC for an ERLL and some MACHINE GUNS?!?!?
Crazy! :D :P
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Whoa wait. Im not to good on IS stuff but IIRC the Myrmidon has a PPC on it, with some additional weapons maybe, but they exchanged the PPC for an ERLL and some MACHINE GUNS?!?!?
Crazy! :D :P
Because it hurts sales of RAC Manticores or something equally ridiculous.
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Because it hurts sales of RAC Manticores or something equally ridiculous.
*raises eyebrow Teal'c style*
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*raises eyebrow Teal'c style*
I like you...
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LOL! 8)
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Because it hurts sales of RAC Manticores or something equally ridiculous.
Apparently they're both tracked vehicles or somesuch. Every time the CBT writers try and stick in sneaky corporate malfeasance, I get the impression that Inner Sphere IQs have plummeted sharply after three hundred years of incessant war. Elmer Fudd wouldn't fall for this shit.
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Elmer Fudd wouldn't fall for this shit.
Damn. That had me rolling!
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Apparently they're both tracked vehicles or somesuch. Every time the CBT writers try and stick in sneaky corporate malfeasance, I get the impression that Inner Sphere IQs have plummeted sharply after three hundred years of incessant war. Elmer Fudd wouldn't fall for this shit.
Like you need a 10 point holepuncher somewhere when you have a multitude of 5 point hits! Why hasn't Jalastar created the RAC/2 Myrmidon for direct fire support yet?
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I don't know about that, 3CL. Elmer has fallen for things like a rabbit with a Brooklyn accent dressed as a woman. . .
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Like you need a 10 point holepuncher somewhere when you have a multitude of 5 point hits! Why hasn't Jalastar created the RAC/2 Myrmidon for direct fire support yet?
They're worried it might compete with their any tank that has an SRM-6 market niche.
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Damn Geoff. You got OWNED!
Someone repeats something I've said for years and that gets me owned? I think not.
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I found TRO:VA very useful. But then, I
run used to run a lot of MW RPG games. Since my players are still Jihaded out, 4th ed. is awful, and Heavy Metal is both out of date, and (I'm told) doesn't work with Windows 7, its going to be a while before I do so again.
But numerous designs from that book were utilized in my games - either directly, or as a basis for what one could actually find on the streets of random city. As opposed to street cars that have 30+ MPs.
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I haven't had an issue running HMP and HMA on my Win7 machine.
I like TRO:VA but it really needs a price list to be useful. How much does the motorcycle for my PC cost?
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Whoa wait. Im not to good on IS stuff but IIRC the Myrmidon has a PPC on it, with some additional weapons maybe, but they exchanged the PPC for an ERLL and some MACHINE GUNS?!?!?
Crazy! :D :P
Maybe my games are more infantry heavy than yours but I never mind having a few MGs around for smushing the PBIs trying to swarm my line tanks. ESPECIALLY post TRO 3085.
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Infantry?
What are those?
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They are guys who hide inside buildings and make you look stupid, mostly.
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Bankers?
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I haven't had an issue running HMP and HMA on my Win7 machine.
I haven't reinstalled since the new OS, but I did see a post from Rick on the HMP forums about working on a Win7 patch. He indicated there was a compatibility issue. But really, unless you are running a campaign set between 2570 and 3067, and not using WiGEs, Support Vehicles, or any of the other new unit types, Heavy Metal is of limited use. Until he releases the new editions with the new TO equipment and the updated Vehicle construction, compatibility isn't really the problem.
I like TRO:VA but it really needs a price list to be useful. How much does the motorcycle for my PC cost?
Agreed.
MW3 (and aToW) both have prices, but its generic "car" and "motorcycle."
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Bankers?
Mine greet me by bowing at the waist.
/put on suit
/put on championship belt over suit
/be the Million Dollar Man
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Well I spent most of my day painting on three minis. Two Fire Mandrill mechs, in Mattilla Carol colors, a Warhawk and Shadow Cat. Those guys are a learning experience. First time ever painting in yellow. Fun. :P
The third mini is a Battle Cobra in Steel Viper Alpha Galaxy. Now this mini is rocking! It turned out WAY better than I was hoping for and I am quite proud of the little guy. As a matter of fact he is sitting here on my computer desk next to me.
Hmmmm. Perhaps I should send him to the Chatterweb...
Please send a Battle Cobra A over there to clean out the morons.
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They're worried it might compete with their any tank that has an SRM-6 market niche.
I'm not really up on the latest TRO data like I should be, but has anyone thought of replacing the SRM6 on the Myrmidon with an MML of some sort? That would seem like a sensible thing to do for a budget tank that should be able to be a jack of all trades.
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I haven't reinstalled since the new OS, but I did see a post from Rick on the HMP forums about working on a Win7 patch. He indicated there was a compatibility issue. But really, unless you are running a campaign set between 2570 and 3067, and not using WiGEs, Support Vehicles, or any of the other new unit types, Heavy Metal is of limited use. Until he releases the new editions with the new TO equipment and the updated Vehicle construction, compatibility isn't really the problem.
I haven't checked out the HMPro boards in a couple of months now, has there been any progress on getting the new version out or is it still being referred to as "in the pipe"?
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I haven't checked out the HMPro boards in a couple of months now, has there been any progress on getting the new version out or is it still being referred to as "in the pipe"?
I'm pretty sure availability is now "when the stars are right".
Although this post (http://www.heavymetalpro.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=237328#p237328) seems to indicate a possible 2011 release. Made on August 3, so who knows?
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Maybe my games are more infantry heavy than yours but I never mind having a few MGs around for smushing the PBIs trying to swarm my line tanks. ESPECIALLY post TRO 3085.
Sure, nor do I. But SIX LMGs? Why, god, why? The AFFS already has the Ranger and the Fox armored car (which I've taken a shine to), and both can kill infantry and are faster and cheaper. "I bring an ER Large Laser to the party!" is not a thrilling selling point for me, unless the vehicle weighs three tons.
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I wonder how many companies would kill to get the built in audience that HMPro has? and would do a better job of keeping it updated? If I had run my business like that? Yikes is all I can say.
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Well, Rick is a one-man operation who does HMP as a side job to his real day job. Given that he realhas life and had family health concerns (working on memory here), HMP did take a back seat. Throw in the fact that there were four corebooks put out in four years, I don't think it helped him in developing the next iteration of HMP.
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I'm not really up on the latest TRO data like I should be, but has anyone thought of replacing the SRM6 on the Myrmidon with an MML of some sort? That would seem like a sensible thing to do for a budget tank that should be able to be a jack of all trades.
Doesn't work especially well unless you're fussing around with the armor to get the tonnage to carry a second ton of ammo. If you're not going to do that, give me my sixth SRM tube back.
I wonder how many companies would kill to get the built in audience that HMPro has? and would do a better job of keeping it updated? If I had run my business like that? Yikes is all I can say.
At this point, HMPro has very effective competition in SSW. Rick's going to have to work to get his market share back for 'Mechs at this point in the face of a free, high quality competitor that has an advantage in being able to run readily on non-Windows architectures (i.e., markets he can not readily compete in). If HMP6 works well, he could certainly do it, but there's a lot of disgruntled HMP customers who have gotten used to SSW by now.
With HMVee or HMAero, on the other hand, he could easily wipe the floor with the competitors such as they actually exist. The main one that's remotely up to date is MegaMekLab, the vehicle interface for which is annoying enough to me that after trying to deal with it once I settled on Notepad++ as my MegaMek-compatible vehicle design program of choice and go to a certain amount of trouble to cram TW/TO options through HMVee for other purposes.
Well, Rick is a one-man operation who does HMP as a side job to his real day job. Given that he realhas life and had family health concerns (working on memory here), HMP did take a back seat. Throw in the fact that there were four corebooks put out in four years, I don't think it helped him in developing the next iteration of HMP.
Agreed. I can understand and sympathize very readily with what happened to him. That doesn't mean that HMP6 is going to be an automatic purchase for me the way HMV6 or a new HMAero would be.
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Well, I use SSW for 'Mech designing but after looking around at vehicle programmes I very rapidly plumped for HeavyMetal Vee and am very pleased with it... my intermittently playing group are using a lot of vehicles and I said I would help to throw together some custom ride stats and then some custom playing sheets with 4 vees to a page and the key to hit location chart and critical hit chart(s) - I think I did a rather spiffy job if I say so myself but haven't had the definitive opinion from playtesting
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See, I don't know why anyone would WANT HMP back. Sure, HMVee and HMBA, etc are nice - but SSW is SO much nicer for 'Mechs. Especially if you tie it in to the force balancer.
I'm just sayin'.
When Solaris Armor Works, etc. are fully running - I don't see any reason for HeavyMetal to stay in operation.
Granted, I know that Chunga, for one, really doesn't like SSW - so I'm sure there's a crowd out there with strong opinions to counterbalance those who share mine.
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IF HMP6 is a fully integrated design tool, IE it lets you do vehicles, 'mechs, BA, ASF, and support vees, and IF it has the files for all canon designs available, it'd be a must-buy for me. Otherwise? Well, I have the RS PDFs, and a laser printer, so...
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IF HMP6 is a fully integrated design tool, IE it lets you do vehicles, 'mechs, BA, ASF, and support vees, and IF it has the files for all canon designs available, it'd be a must-buy for me. Otherwise? Well, I have the RS PDFs, and a laser printer, so...
This.
In fact, If he does support vehicles, well, then it's a done deal for me to purchase.
I can sympathize with personal issues, and when I ran my business, I had to have another job as well, so I *TOTALLY* understand the stress that entails. I hurt my ankle (there is no 'light duty' when you are a one man show) and my mom got cancer so I had to take care of her, so I did the only thing I could do--sell my business.
No REAL updates after 6 years? Inexcusable. He either needed to bring other people in on the design or sell the company.
But hey, what do I know?
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Please send a Battle Cobra A over there to clean out the morons.
Sadly after some thinking I dont think the SLDF navy is sufficient force to succeed in such an endeavor.
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Sadly after some thinking I dont think the SLDF navy is sufficient force to succeed in such an endeavor.
Even if they "kills it with their battleships"?
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The cockroaches would crawl out, then start arguing over the aesthetic properties of different pieces of rubble.
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So taking the lessons I learned from my epic(ly one-sided) battle with MDM, I have set out to try to improve the Panther. My goals we as follows:
1. Be able to generate a +3TN from jumping (5 minimum jump MP)
2. Take a HPPC hit anywhere (Not possible, so changed to maximum armor)
3. Keep the Panthers Energy weapon SRM pack weapon layout.
4. Mount a HPPC
5. Keep BV and cost close to the Wights.
6. Avoid as much exotic stuff as possible.
I was able to do it all, with using only endo-steel. And adding 5 tons...
My Panther II (Grand Panther?) came in at a BV of 1308 and cost of 3,239,000 as compared to the Wights BV of 1100 and cost 3,389,000
Besides trying to reinvent the wheel here, I think it's a pretty good design, but I Wight be wrong...
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So to beat the Wight you built a 40-ton 'mech? I'd hate to see your solution to the Devastator.
In all seriousness, the problem the Wight and Panther both have is that they're as slow as machines twice their size, with enough firepower to core either of them in a single shot. Wights are very dangerous to light and small medium 'mechs, but the weapon that makes them so dangerous also makes them a prime target. For anything over a lance-sized battle, I'd much rather field a Jenner than a Wight or a Panther, since it can generate higher TMMs and escape from larger foes.
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The Jenner is the best Clan Mech ever.
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So to beat the Wight you built a 40-ton 'mech? I'd hate to see your solution to the Devastator.
I think we now know why the Ares design program started.
In all seriousness, the problem the Wight and Panther both have is that they're as slow as machines twice their size, with enough firepower to core either of them in a single shot. Wights are very dangerous to light and small medium 'mechs, but the weapon that makes them so dangerous also makes them a prime target. For anything over a lance-sized battle, I'd much rather field a Jenner than a Wight or a Panther, since it can generate higher TMMs and escape from larger foes.
That description reminds me a lot of the Cougar, actually.
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That description reminds me a lot of the Cougar, actually.
Yep, I feel the same. The Cougar will blow most light 'mechs away with contemptuous ease; I imagine it's a phenomenal duelist, for those who like that foolishness. A slow, lightly-armored target carrying two large pulse lasers, however, is not something most larger 'mech pilots will hesitate to perforate.
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The Cougar blows away Lyran lights and mediums, and is useful against a fair number of their heavies. Its subpar to most Clan mediums to a substantial degree, and plenty of Clan lights.
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So to beat the Wight you built a 40-ton 'mech? I'd hate to see your solution to the Devastator.
In all seriousness, the problem the Wight and Panther both have is that they're as slow as machines twice their size, with enough firepower to core either of them in a single shot. Wights are very dangerous to light and small medium 'mechs, but the weapon that makes them so dangerous also makes them a prime target. For anything over a lance-sized battle, I'd much rather field a Jenner than a Wight or a Panther, since it can generate higher TMMs and escape from larger foes.
It must be the Lyran in me...
I could have made it 35 tons, but had to use an XL and such--something I was loath to do.
The Panther is just being left in the dust, except for niche roles (I'm looking at you Plasma Rifle...)
I'll just have to see what the retrotech factory on Filtvelt is pumping out and select that as my new favorite underdog...
The Jenner is am awesome design, which is why I can't champion it.
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It must be the Lyran in me...
I could have made it 35 tons, but had to use an XL and such--something I was loath to do.
The Panther is just being left in the dust, except for niche roles (I'm looking at you Plasma Rifle...)
I'll just have to see what the retrotech factory on Filtvelt is pumping out and select that as my new favorite underdog...
The Jenner is am awesome design, which is why I can't champion it.
A plasma rifle Panther would be useful as an infantry support Mech.
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It must be the Lyran in me...
I could have made it 35 tons, but had to use an XL and such--something I was loath to do.
The Panther is just being left in the dust, except for niche roles (I'm looking at you Plasma Rifle...)
I'll just have to see what the retrotech factory on Filtvelt is pumping out and select that as my new favorite underdog...
The Jenner is am awesome design, which is why I can't champion it.
4/6/4, 35 tons, ES, max armor, plasma rifle with two tons of ammo, DHS, MML-3 with 3 tons of ammo (SRM, LRM, Inferno), CASE, ERSL. Bam. BV 969, runs cool, and between the inferno SRMs and the plasma rifle, you can really mess with people. There you go. A man's Panther (Manther).
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A man's Panther (Manther).
I just call it a Wolverine.
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I think we now know why the Ares design program started.
More importantly, I think we now know who started the Ares design program. "Build a better Wight", they said. "Make it harder to kill", they said. Maybe we should just start referring to Josh as "Zeus" from now on...
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IF HMP6 is a fully integrated design tool, IE it lets you do vehicles, 'mechs, BA, ASF, and support vees, and IF it has the files for all canon designs available, it'd be a must-buy for me. Otherwise? Well, I have the RS PDFs, and a laser printer, so...
The only reason that I would go to HMP6 now is, as 3CL has stated, if Rick were to integrate all the new toys as well as vehicles, BA & Infantry, ASF & Spacecraft and Support Vehicles into it and not just leave it as 'Mechs only. I say this as someone who has HMPro as well as HMAero collecting dust because there haven't been any updates in ages.
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The dog claims things are going to get bad; Lisa made bacon(REAL bacon) this morning and Rita did not come to the table to beg for it, even when called.
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The dog claims things are going to get bad; Lisa made bacon(REAL bacon) this morning and Rita did not come to the table to beg for it, even when called.
Irene, earthquake or something else?
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The only reason that I would go to HMP6 now is, as 3CL has stated, if Rick were to integrate all the new toys as well as vehicles, BA & Infantry, ASF & Spacecraft and Support Vehicles into it and not just leave it as 'Mechs only. I say this as someone who has HMPro as well as HMAero collecting dust because there haven't been any updates in ages.
I feel largely the same. I resisted making the change to SSW for a long time but its convenient and up to date. I still use HMpro for older mechs, and prefer the GUI over SSW, though I don't have any problem with SSW's strict function over form, I'm just used to HMpro.
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Irene, earthquake or something else?
Irene. The earthquake sent Rita into the bathtub for 2 hours.
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How about a Jackal 55 against the Wight? Its Panther-ish, and if you go up in weight to 35t, you can upgrade to a larger SRM or SSRM system. Its got speed and range AND a tarcomp over the Wight.
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I feel largely the same. I resisted making the change to SSW for a long time but its convenient and up to date. I still use HMpro for older mechs, and prefer the GUI over SSW, though I don't have any problem with SSW's strict function over form, I'm just used to HMpro.
I'm right there with you on this.
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Do we want to try another MM game tonight? Melanie is going to a family thing, and I'm here with nothing to do.
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Which version are y'all using? Rosie is watching Lost Boys and I'm trying to drink enough water to avoid a hangover
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Which version are y'all using? Rosie is watching Lost Boys and I'm trying to drink enough water to avoid a hangover
34.9. Also, I can't host.
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34.9. Also, I can't host.
Am downloading/unzipping as we speak. Then, once unzipped, I can play BattleTech pantsless (in the American sense at least...)
What's the issue with hosting?
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Am downloading/unzipping as we speak. Then, once unzipped, I can play BattleTech pantsless (in the American sense at least...)
What's the issue with hosting?
I'm behind a restrictive firewall, and I'm housesitting for my in-laws.
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I'm behind a restrictive firewall, and I'm housesitting for my in-laws.
I am a fairy, my name is nuff. Fairy Nuff.
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Steve's 34.9 server:
Site: mechadynamics.net
Port: 2345
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Steve's 34.9 server:
Site: mechadynamics.net
Port: 2345
Blimey, I think I've found you!
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IP?
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mechadynamics.net should resolve as the ip.
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Well, I lost a Loki Prime to heat-induced ammo explosion, and Dan lost a Marauder and an Orion to the same cause, plus a Commando that skidded and blew up. I'd also lost another 'mech in my star and it looked like Dan and Moonsword were going to finish the job, so we called it a night (or early AM for Dan).
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Well, I lost a Loki Prime to heat-induced ammo explosion, and Dan lost a Marauder and an Orion to the same cause, plus a Commando that skidded and blew up. I'd also lost another 'mech in my star and it looked like Dan and Moonsword were going to finish the job, so we called it a night (or early AM for Dan).
Not that early (4am)
And I just remembered why I hate L1 or whatever we are calling it Tech...
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Well, I lost a Loki Prime to heat-induced ammo explosion, and Dan lost a Marauder and an Orion to the same cause, plus a Commando that skidded and blew up. I'd also lost another 'mech in my star and it looked like Dan and Moonsword were going to finish the job, so we called it a night (or early AM for Dan).
Don't forget my Grasshopper that skidded and knocked the pilot out right before you decided that zell was for pansies.
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Back and kinda recovered from my Bachelor party. I've never been shot by so many paintballs in my life...
Had a really good time, went paintballing for a few hours, then grilled and drank and then went to an, um, 'Bible study"....
The 'sisters' there really enjoy 'chastising' the crap out of bachelors. the various 'mortifications of the flesh' that were inflicted upon me were pretty hard to explain to the drunken almost-wife.
Hopefully I can get in on a the next MM game y'all play!
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I love your new title and glad to hear that you survived the ministration of the 'sisters of mercy'
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Back and kinda recovered from my Bachelor party. I've never been shot by so many paintballs in my life...
Had a really good time, went paintballing for a few hours, then grilled and drank and then went to an, um, 'Bible study"....
The 'sisters' there really enjoy 'chastising' the crap out of bachelors. the various 'mortifications of the flesh' that were inflicted upon me were pretty hard to explain to the drunken almost-wife.
Hopefully I can get in on a the next MM game y'all play!
Sorry I missed paintballing, Melanie was leaving for Michigan for a few days, so I helped her pack and run errands. NEXT TIME GADGET.
The Lexus took her inaugural voyage with me at the helm today, picking up glue and depositing checks. Now it's a beautiful sunny day, and I think I may sit outside and read and listen to The Clash.
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We're going to try paintballing at my buddies farm. he has 15 acres of woods so it should be fun, I'll let you know.
Does the Ley-has drive like a golden dream? I've never driven one, but I imagine it being an awesome riding car.
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We're going to try paintballing at my buddies farm. he has 15 acres of woods so it should be fun, I'll let you know.
Does the Ley-has drive like a golden dream? I've never driven one, but I imagine it being an awesome riding car.
She handles very well indeed, wobbles a little around 70-75 mph, but that goes away once you clear 80. There's a squeaking sound it makes at low speeds that worries me, my last car had an exciting fanbelt failure after squeaking, but otherwise pretty great for a 15 year old car.
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At least Sarcasmo seems to have had something like an actual bachelor party.
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At least Sarcasmo seems to have had something like an actual bachelor party.
I've never understood the appeal, honestly.
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I actually would have been just fine hanging out at my buddies and drinking. I'd say play BattleTech, but none of them have ever shown the the slightest inclination. I think we did things that way, simply because that is how most bachelor parties go. And I had a blast, but normally, I'm not a big party-er. Though in my wild youth I did visit the "Sister of Mercy" not infrequently.
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I've never understood the appeal, honestly.
[stupid]
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+1, he had a good bachelor party going until he went to 'bible study'. He had a good day with his best pals doing something he likes. Once he's married and has kids, time for fun with his pals will be at a minimum.
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At least Sarcasmo seems to have had something like an actual bachelor party.
Hardly. No Snorta.
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If I have my way, my Bachelor party will be a quiet night in with a few beers, a pizza and a couple of good DVDs....
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If I have my way, my Bachelor party will be a quiet night in with a few beers, a pizza and a couple of good DVDs....
But what DVDs?! ;)
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I've never understood the appeal, honestly.
Yeah, you kinda made my point for me.
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My own stag night was golf in the AM and a cigar bar in the PM, with (I'm told) excessive drinking, even by my standards.
Anyone up for a game later?
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Maybe. What's the game?
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I could be convinced to blow up some stompy robots...
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Does anyone have any idea what Flitvelt's parade colors will be like? Or even suggestions. I may or may not have a reason for asking.
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A thick coating of mud.
....what? You don't think 31st century country boys take their mechs muddin'?
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Does anyone have any idea what Flitvelt's parade colors will be like? Or even suggestions. I may or may not have a reason for asking.
No. and I really would *LOVE* to find out. Depending on the era, a lot of their machines are from the Malgrotta CrMM, and the Filtvelt Academy Training Battalion has never had colors published.
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I'm sitting on MM at mechadynamics.net, Port 2345, if anyone wants to do some stompy robot shooting.
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Well I started painting my first mini today. Got the base coat down on a Battlemaster and I'm fairly pleased with how it looks so far. Next I'll have to wash and drybrush it.
If you guys are going to be gaming I'll have to get MegaMek on my laptop so I can watch while I play Deus Ex.
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Well I started painting my first mini today. Got the base coat down on a Battlemaster and I'm fairly pleased with how it looks so far. Next I'll have to wash and drybrush it.
If you guys are going to be gaming I'll have to get MegaMek on my laptop so I can watch while I play Deus Ex.
Photos!
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Photos!
I'll try to get one or two up in a bit.
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Well I'm up for a game. Could do with a break from DX. :)
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A thick coating of mud.
....what? You don't think 31st century country boys take their mechs muddin'?
Per TRO:VA (y'know that useless TRO) the Outback (Filtvelt) and SW Trinity worlds both engage in a vehicular activity know as Mudsliding. Basically, deliberately induced skids in muddy terrain. Per the Skoda/Iveco Burro Truck entry.
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I imagine they'd paint their 'mechs flat OD or green drab. If you want to get fancy, they could keep their CrMM scheme but use the Filtvelt colors.
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...did the server die? I can't seem to communicate with it.
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Well this sucks... It booted me and wont let me log on.
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ditto.
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I can't log back in, either.
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Same.
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Let me get Steve to give it a kick.
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Ok. Ill check back in 20
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Okay, there we go. It's back up.
Let's see how long it takes us to break it again...
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The Panther in the Filtvelt banner looks appropriately muddy. ;D
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The Panther in the Filtvelt banner looks appropriately muddy. ;D
Good point!
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No. and I really would *LOVE* to find out. Depending on the era, a lot of their machines are from the Malgrotta CrMM, and the Filtvelt Academy Training Battalion has never had colors published.
All that paint would be awfully expensive. I think bondo and primer would be fitting, no?
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All that paint would be awfully expensive. I think bondo and primer would be fitting, no?
I was thinking solid grey or brown.
"Hey, its not primer its camo!"
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I ws thinking blue w/red trim or Red w/blue trim for the Filtvelters. Of course, it could just be the bland, unimaginative 'appropriate camo' scheme
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Ok, here's (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64633779@N06/6091932910/in/photostream) a photo of what I got done today.
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EXCELLENT basecoating!!!!O0
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Purty. O0
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And in other news,
Team EvilClan Smoke Jaguar defeated the freebirths of the DCMS last night. MVP award to Moonsword's Nova, the toughest Nova I think I've ever seen. BlackAce's sacrificial lambs did well, 4 of his 5 losing limbs, but setting up the Jags for Sarcasmo's stunning flanking maneuver. Sarcasmo nearly turned the tide, as he critted and destroyed my Warhawk's gyro via TACs.
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Aww, you said I was stunning! :) Shame to hear we lost it...
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The quick deaths of the Dragon and Catapult sealed the fate of the DCMS. Not quick as in turns, but in damage absorption. The headcap of the Catapult sealed the deal, as it were.
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Yea, As much fun as the K1 Catapult is, I had totally forgotten it had no jump jets...
Sucks to hear we couldn't pull out the win. Not surprised, I like 12-5 odds when facing Clanners, at least using initial invasion designs.
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12-5 3025 v. Clan, 8-5 3050 v. Clan, and 12-10 3055+ v. Clan are fairly good benchmarks, IMO.
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Ugh. I hate mixed tech fights.
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Ugh. I hate mixed tech fights.
Why's that? I almost always played as IS versus Clan for a many a year.
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My heavy lance was running 3025 only, Jayce's was upgraded but mixed weight. The Jag star was mixed with 3 Stormcrows, a Nova and a Warhawk. It was a good fight, and we did end up getting a few lucky floating crits on the Warhawk, but he managed to hold up my entire lance. 4/6 was just to slow for that flanking maneuver, the Jags did the right thing by ignoring me and tearing apart Jayce, only ( I assume) to come back and face my former lance in full.
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EXCELLENT basecoating!!!!O0
Purty. O0
Thanks, I appreciate it. I don't consider myself to have much of anything in the way of artistic talent, but I guess my patience and ability to focus made up for it here.
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My heavy lance was running 3025 only, Jayce's was upgraded but mixed weight. The Jag star was mixed with 3 Stormcrows, a Nova and a Warhawk. It was a good fight, and we did end up getting a few lucky floating crits on the Warhawk, but he managed to hold up my entire lance. 4/6 was just to slow for that flanking maneuver, the Jags did the right thing by ignoring me and tearing apart Jayce, only ( I assume) to come back and face my former lance in full.
Yes, and then we tore it apart thanks to good numbers. However, for the record, there was only one Stormcrow, a C. The other two 'Mechs were a Shadow Cat Prime and a Cauldron-Born A.
I still don't know how the heck that Nova A survived with literally no armor on the front torso or the head for two rounds of fire.
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Dur. I don't know why I remembered them as Stromcrows? I was fearing the 'Cats Gauss rifle...
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If I had to guess, I'd blame the fact that when I originally rolled the Star of Jaguar 'Mechs on the ER3052 RAT, it came up four Stormcrows and a Timber Wolf.
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If I had to guess, I'd blame the fact that when I originally rolled the Star of Jaguar 'Mechs on the ER3052 RAT, it came up four Stormcrows and a Timber Wolf.
Seems like a good Jag force to me. :)
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Seems like a good Jag force to me. :)
I thought they mostly used Vultures, rather than Mad Cats?
Man, can you imagine what a let down that'd be? "Congrats, Star Colonel! You've murdered four men in your trial of position, now you command the XIVth Jaguar Striker Cluster (Kerensky's Burning Urethra)! Discard that silly old Ryoken, here's your brand new...wait for it...Vulture!"
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Man, can you imagine what a let down that'd be? "Congrats, Star Colonel! You've murdered four men in your trial of position, now you command the XIVth Jaguar Striker Cluster (Kerensky's Burning Urethra)! Discard that silly old Ryoken, here's your brand new...wait for it...Vulture!"
I actually like Mad Dogs, personally, but I can see where someone might be a bit put out by that.
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The Jags used Myst Lynx, Stormcrows, Mad Dogs, Warhawks, and Dire Wolves for the most part. The oddball Timber Wolf wouldnt be to far of a stretch considering they didnt get along with Clan Wolf and shared some worlds with them in the Kerensky cluster. Plus dont forget one of the most famous(infamous?) Jags piloted a Timber Wolf.
And yuck. A Mad Dog for a Stormcrow? Very rarely, if ever, would I go for that trade. Id be declaring a Trial of Refusal ASAP.
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"Kerensky's Burning Urethra" sounds like a plausible oath in Clan space.
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"Kerensky's Burning Urethra" sounds like a plausible oath in Clan space.
"By The Founder's burning urethra", surely.
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"By The Founder's burning urethra", surely.
I was thinking along the same lines... :D
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Why don't we have an equivalent oath? "George Washington's genital warts, I got jury duty again!"
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Even with the purchasing ban now in force, I have the following 1/72 Spitfires to build: MkI, MkIa, MkIIa, MkVb, MkVc, MkVI HF, 2xMkVIII, 2x MkIX, MkXII, 4xMkXIV, F.22, F.24, 2xSeafire IIc, Seafire III, Seafang. Really sad I didn't manage to get a MkXVIII or F.21 before the ban took effect. I also have a Ju88A4, Do17E, Do17Z, Bf109E4, Bf109G6, FW190D9, Mustang III, Typhoon I, Ki43-I, Ki-43-II, A6M2, B5N2, D3A1, Blenheim IV, Martin-Baker MB5, 2xHurricane I, 2xHurricane IIc, 2xHurricane IIb, Mosquito FB.VI, Hudson I, PZL 11c, Martlet II, Wildcat VI, Tarpon II, 2xCorsair II, and Hellcat I.
Why don't we have an equivalent oath? "George Washington's genital warts, I got jury duty again!"
We do now!
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*stares at list*
Sounds familiar to my painting table in my living room actually. What size models are these guys?
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All 1/72.
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Ok if you have that many to build, how many do you have already built?
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Even with the purchasing ban now in force, I have the following 1/72 Spitfires to build: MkI, MkIa, MkIIa, MkVb, MkVc, MkVI HF, 2xMkVIII, 2x MkIX, MkXII, 4xMkXIV, F.22, F.24, 2xSeafire IIc, Seafire III, Seafang. Really sad I didn't manage to get a MkXVIII or F.21 before the ban took effect. I also have a Ju88A4, Do17E, Do17Z, Bf109E4, Bf109G6, FW190D9, Mustang III, Typhoon I, Ki43-I, Ki-43-II, A6M2, B5N2, D3A1, Blenheim IV, Martin-Baker MB5, 2xHurricane I, 2xHurricane IIc, 2xHurricane IIb, Mosquito FB.VI, Hudson I, PZL 11c, Martlet II, Wildcat VI, Tarpon II, 2xCorsair II, and Hellcat I.
We do now!
Hmm.. interesting and nice list of planes. My first plane was an Spit Mk V from Airfix in 1/72. The decals and the cockpit were hellish. If you need any help just ask for it!
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Ok if you have that many to build, how many do you have already built?
Probably more than the RAF had flying.
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Probably more than the RAF had flying.
:D
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I hope the Mossie will be made with authentic balsa wood :D
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Aww, you said I was stunning! :) Shame to hear we lost it...
I hadn't forgotten about you, but had not realised just how far south your Mechs had gotten when they gangbanged the Warhawk. You should be proud of your 'hammer though, it absorbed a crazy amount of damage in one turn: dbl tap from the Ultra 20and laser fire from the Cauldy, then Moonsword's mechs got to work on it. It took maybe 80 points that turn, had 3 locations stripped, the CT down to 2 armour, and lost an arm. But it was still standing.
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Even with the purchasing ban now in force, I have the following 1/72 Spitfires to build: MkI, MkIa, MkIIa, MkVb, MkVc, MkVI HF, 2xMkVIII, 2x MkIX, MkXII, 4xMkXIV, F.22, F.24, 2xSeafire IIc, Seafire III, Seafang. Really sad I didn't manage to get a MkXVIII or F.21 before the ban took effect. I also have a Ju88A4, Do17E, Do17Z, Bf109E4, Bf109G6, FW190D9, Mustang III, Typhoon I, Ki43-I, Ki-43-II, A6M2, B5N2, D3A1, Blenheim IV, Martin-Baker MB5, 2xHurricane I, 2xHurricane IIc, 2xHurricane IIb, Mosquito FB.VI, Hudson I, PZL 11c, Martlet II, Wildcat VI, Tarpon II, 2xCorsair II, and Hellcat I.
Hope you've got a big shelf.
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Hope you've got a big shelf.
From the sound of it he needs an airfield.
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Ok if you have that many to build, how many do you have already built?
Spitfire Vc trop, Spitfire IXc, Spitfire XVIe, Spiteful F.14, Fulmar I, Barracuda II, Firefly FR. I, plus a Spitfire Ia I built for my dad and a Spitfire Ia/II hybrid I built for Melanie ("make me one of your airplanes, a cool one"). A number of the unfinished kits are in various states of assembly as well; some just need decals.
I hope the Mossie will be made with authentic balsa wood :D
I once made a Spitfire and a Focke-Wulf out of balsa wood with my dad when I was small. Then I took a hammer to the FW.
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And in other news, Team EvilClan Smoke Jaguar defeated the freebirths of the DCMS last night. MVP award to Moonsword's Nova, the toughest Nova I think I've ever seen. BlackAce's sacrificial lambs did well, 4 of his 5 losing limbs, but setting up the Jags for Sarcasmo's stunning flanking maneuver. Sarcasmo nearly turned the tide, as he critted and destroyed my Warhawk's gyro via TACs.
Translated: Josh hid behind a big mountain while my Victor and Stalker did the heavy lifting. ;D
I'm just sad the Wolverine got leg-loped before he could really add anything to the party.
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So when's the next game? I'm dying to get back into one again and this one sounds like it was great.
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Here's the ol' workbench a while back.
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That's organized compared to my workbench. I'll take a pic and show it here soonish.
Now as far as the different models of planes are the "variants" noticeable or does it really take someone who knows the changes to recognize them?
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The Mk.I through Mk.IX Spits use exactly the same airframe and fuselage only the equipment (armament, radiators/oil coolers, exaust stubs and propellers) noticably change. The Griffon engined Marks (LF.XII to F.21 are visually different though.
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Now as far as the different models of planes are the "variants" noticeable or does it really take someone who knows the changes to recognize them?
Some are way easier than others. I can tell most of the Merlin-engined Spitfire marks apart, though I'm no expert, and the Mark VIII, Mark IX, and Mark XVI are almost identical externally. The Griffin-engined Spitfires are tougher for me; I can tell a Mark XII or Mark XIV apart, but I have a hard time with the later marks, up until the Mark 22/24, and those two I can't distinguish from each other.
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Some are way easier than others. I can tell most of the Merlin-engined Spitfire marks apart, though I'm no expert, and the Mark VIII, Mark IX, and Mark XVI are almost identical externally. The Griffin-engined Spitfires are tougher for me; I can tell a Mark XII or Mark XIV apart, but I have a hard time with the later marks, up until the Mark 22/24, and those two I can't distinguish from each other.
Ah gotcha. How many marks were there in total during the war?
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So when's the next game? I'm dying to get back into one again and this one sounds like it was great.
Why not tonight?
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Why not tonight?
I could be able to play tonight. Would be the perfect chance to try new mechs Ive never used before.
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Why not tonight?
I might be able to pull that off, but it'd be late. At least 9:30 or 10:00 Eastern.
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Ah gotcha. How many marks were there in total during the war?
Marks I, II, PR. IV, V, VI HF, VII HF, VIII, IX, PR. XI, XII, PR. XIII, XIV, XVI, and F.21 all served, to my knowledge. BlackAce surely knows more than I, though. PR denotes photo-reconnaissance Spits, and HF Spits had pointier wingtips and were optimized for very high altitude combat flights.
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I might be able to pull that off, but it'd be late. At least 9:30 or 10:00 Eastern.
What's that in British Summer Time?
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What's that in British Summer Time?
It's about 3-3.5 hours from now
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-4 GMT I do believe
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Fourteen different versions of the same plane. Hmm and people complain of to many mech variants and new units in Battletech. ::)
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It's about 3-3.5 hours from now
Too late for me :(
-4 GMT I do believe
Thanks
Fourteen different versions of the same plane. Hmm and people complain of to many mech variants and new units in Battletech. ::)
But all cool [rockon]
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Fourteen different versions of the same plane. Hmm and people complain of to many mech variants and new units in Battletech. ::)
And these were developed and fielded in a remarkably short period of time.
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Fourteen different versions of the same plane. Hmm and people complain of to many mech variants and new units in Battletech. ::)
It doesn't even count the versions planned that never made it into action!
Then there's things like the Mark VIII which was was a more advanced Mark IX, but it took a long time to develop, whereas the Mark IX was rushed into service.
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And these were developed and fielded in a remarkably short period of time.
Exactly!
Another example is the Germans and their tanks. Off the top of my head they had the Panzer I, II, III, IV, Panther, Tiger, and King Tiger. Also that little tank from another country they used. Skoda or something? Cant think of it right now and to busy getting record sheets ready for DragonCon to spend time looking for it. Not to mention the different versions of each tank. Then you add on things like anti-tank units...
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Here are, from top to bottom, a Spitfire Ia, Vb (in Free Polish colors), VIII in RAAF colors, IIRC, I think that's Clive "Killer" Caldwell's Spit), a PR XIX (I THINK), and an F.22 or F.24.
(http://www.allinflight.com/aerei/aerim_ww2/spitfire_profiles.gif)
Also that little tank from another country they used. Skoda or something? Cant think of it right now and to busy getting record sheets ready for DragonCon to spend time looking for it. Not to mention the different versions of each tank. Then you add on things like anti-tank units...
Pz. 35(t) and Pz. 38(t). The t was for "tschechisch". They were actually built by Českomoravská Kolben-Daněk, though Skoda had a hand in the Pz.35(t).
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Exactly!
Another example is the Germans and their tanks. Off the top of my head they had the Panzer I, II, III, IV, Panther, Tiger, and King Tiger. Also that little tank from another country they used. Skoda or something? Cant think of it right now and to busy getting record sheets ready for DragonCon to spend time looking for it. Not to mention the different versions of each tank. Then you add on things like anti-tank units...
The problem the Germans had was that they made too many (far too many) different subtle mods of the different AFVs (not that the Allies weren't also doing the same with multiple flavours of Sherman etc) but not enough bulk of one type optimised for mass production
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Pz. 35(t) and Pz. 38(t). The t was for "tschechisch". They were actually built by Českomoravská Kolben-Daněk, though Skoda had a hand in the Pz.35(t).
Thats the one I was thinking of!
The problem the Germans had was that they made too many (far too many) different subtle mods of the different AFVs (not that the Allies weren't also doing the same with multiple flavours of Sherman etc) but not enough bulk of one type optimised for mass production
Yeah they made WAY to many different tanks in the war.
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Yeah they made WAY to many different tanks in the war.
Well, it panned out for the guys who made World of Tanks!
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Well, it panned out for the guys who made World of Tanks!
Speer: Mein Fuhrer, this is just balls, respectfully. We have, like, three different main battle tanks right now, and WHO KNOWS how many subvariants. And we're still producing the Pazer II? Why? Why?
Hitler: Tell him, Guderian.
Guderian: The Fuhrer has a seventy year plan to break into the model and video game industry.
Speer: What are...video...games?
Hitler: That's not important! What IS important is that our National Socialist Banner will be erected upon their ramparts! I forsee entire fortunes being made by those who simply publish video game tours of my chateau at Wolfenstein! Gentlemen! To the 1600x900 Reich!
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[notworthy]
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Speer: Mein Fuhrer, this is just balls, respectfully. We have, like, three different main battle tanks right now, and WHO KNOWS how many subvariants. And we're still producing the Pazer II? Why? Why?
Hitler: Tell him, Guderian.
Guderian: The Fuhrer has a seventy year plan to break into the model and video game industry.
Speer: What are...video...games?
Hitler: That's not important! What IS important is that our National Socialist Banner will be erected upon their ramparts! I forsee entire fortunes being made by those who simply publish video game tours of my chateau at Wolfenstein! Gentlemen! To the 1600x900 Reich!
Wheres a like button when you need one.
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Fourteen different versions of the same plane. Hmm and people complain of to many mech variants and new units in Battletech. ::)
Sure, but BattleTech nations are moribund basket-cases compared to wartime Britain or Germany. More akin those African nations where the steam engines are long gone and now folks get around on human or ox-powered rail cars.
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Sure, but BattleTech nations are moribund basket-cases compared to wartime Britain or Germany. More akin those African nations where the steam engines are long gone and now folks get around on human or ox-powered rail cars.
So, more advanced than [insert place you dislike (eg Yorskhire) here]
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If we're all up for a game later, I'll play.
Speaking of Variants, I'm up to 13 different Shermans and I still dont have em all! #P
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Sure, but BattleTech nations are moribund basket-cases compared to wartime Britain or Germany. More akin those African nations where the steam engines are long gone and now folks get around on human or ox-powered rail cars.
I'm not sure how accurate that really is. While individual worlds did get hit in the Succession Wars and some of them were basically shattered at different points, a lot of worlds were never really affected (Numenor in the Federated Suns, for instance), many were only hit lightly, and the ones that survived had generally begun to recover. What happened to cause most of the decline was infrastructure decay and collapse but even then it seems like the situation had begun to reverse itself. The regrowth in the wake of the Helm Core seems to me to be a lot like the way Europe was pulling itself back to its feet for the recovery of knowledge and growth of trade in the Crusades to lead into the Renaissance.
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I think the best reason behind lostech was the massive loss of transport. I can easily see many colonies and primary world's infrastructure and economy being governed by interstellar trade, only for it to dry up when there's no longer any way to get the goods from the factory to the market.
I can see companies like GM and Ford building luxury sports cars in massive outback factory complexes (were the labour is cheapest and the planetary government offer the best incentives) only to end up storing them by the thousand out in some desert mothball site, waiting for enough jumpships to finally move some and laying off workers in the meantime.
It's only a short push into an economic spiral, with simply not enough Military Industrial work to keep every world afloat and the few worlds still prospering end up propping up the economies of the others.
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Here's something I've wondered: where would modern-day Earth fit on the Inner Sphere's alphabetical development table? I'm guessing it would be pretty high up, since the state of Florida appears to have more colleges and universities than the whole of the Federated Suns. And yet the typical modern man is a peasant farmer or an urban slum-dweller.
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I think you'd have to break it up into continents at least.
That said, I can see many core worlds having a single central hub of Haves and a sprawl of either rural or urban Have-nots. I don't think the innersphere has much in the way of a suburban middle class.
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A thing to remember about those many Spitfires is how long did they serve? BT has mechs that are hundreds of years old. Best case would probably be something like the B52 or the Israelis continuously upgrading things like Shermans and Centurions long after their build dates, or small nations still upgrading M24 or M41 tanks in the 1990s. Fifty to sixty years is a fantastic service life already, to say nothing of the centuries expected out of BattleMechs, which never went out of production, which was continually upgraded with every new bell and whistle...
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Well done Edward!
I would watch if y'all (that sounds creepy) play, but probably not play. I hate leaving a game early.
Me thinks we need a title for the next AFFS incarnation?
Perhaps something with "Wight" in it. The "Wight" stuff perhaps? Perhaps that's the Stockholm Syndrome talking...
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How about AFFS High Command: The Fox is always Wight
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Perhaps something with "Wight" in it. The "Wight" stuff perhaps? Perhaps that's the Stockholm Syndrome talking...
I dunno, none of the rest of us bet our reputations on the Wight---or in your case, wrong---fight.
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Here's something I've wondered: where would modern-day Earth fit on the Inner Sphere's alphabetical development table? I'm guessing it would be pretty high up, since the state of Florida appears to have more colleges and universities than the whole of the Federated Suns.
Technological Sophistication: C or D. Medical is D, microelectronics are C to D, and education leans toward B but doesn't overcome the primitive technologies. The literacy rate is probably better, though.
Industrial Sophistication: An unambiguous C, sliding toward the low end of that scale.
Raw Material Dependence: A with no exports for obvious reasons.
Industrial Output: A or B; my money's on A but again, no exports.
Agricultural Dependence: A or B, leaning toward B but it's difficult to judge since the criteria is exportable surplus.
A thing to remember about those many Spitfires is how long did they serve? BT has mechs that are hundreds of years old. Best case would probably be something like the B52 or the Israelis continuously upgrading things like Shermans and Centurions long after their build dates, or small nations still upgrading M24 or M41 tanks in the 1990s. Fifty to sixty years is a fantastic service life already, to say nothing of the centuries expected out of BattleMechs, which never went out of production, which was continually upgraded with every new bell and whistle...
A detailed treatment of the various Archer variants (probably at the level you'd see in Jane's, not a TRO) is said in TRO3025 to take up a book on its own. That's before most of the variants we know about, too. The Fan Article actually bounced off the character limit.
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How about AFFS High Command: The Fox is always Wight
Blasphemy! Unless you're in the Outback, then merely a forgivable typo.
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I dunno, none of the rest of us bet our reputations on the Wight---or in your case, wrong---fight.
Perhaps.
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Did anybody talk about the Capellan version? We all know that two Wongs can't make a Wight.
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Perhaps.
Inscrutable!
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The Fox is never Panther?
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Ha! At long last! The honor is mine.
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Annnd Neko with the NPA gets to name the new thread.
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Home of Clan Sex Fox
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I was hoping for something with bacon. Or Arby's.
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Quod scripsi scripsi my good man.
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Blasphemy! Unless you're in the Outback, then merely a forgivable typo.
I was making a play on the whole "Wight" thing. :P