WSotW: Nightlord

[HobbesHurlbut]

I was talking more about how the EU had for years this saw about how ISDs couldn't operate in atmo, it was impossible, they were too big...and then we had Acclamators and Ventators with landing gear and now the ISDs seem quite happy to float around just a kilometer above the ground or even docking with mooring masts.

And it was why the Imperial Navy kept some Victories around in EU; they could operate within atmosphere unlike the bigger, meaner, and modern ISD.

[Ruger]

Yeah, that scene made me itch with just how Hollywood it was. It breaks every rule of space ship fiction we've seen in almost every universe. Big ships don't work in Atmosphere, you can't do an FTL jump in a gravity well and more.

That's also my biggest beef with Star Trek reboot. Building the Enterprise on the ground!!! Seriously...

Star Trek IV had a Bird of Prey enter warp speed in Earth's atmosphere...

Ruger

[HobbesHurlbut]

Star Trek IV had a Bird of Prey enter warp speed in Earth's atmosphere...

Ruger

TOS had Enterprise travel in the atmosphere, at a height where a jet fighter could operate at.

[Welshman]

TOS had Enterprise travel in the atmosphere, at a height where a jet fighter could operate at.

And it was having issues with doing that. Hull heat and hull stresses.

[Sjhernan3060]

Are there any novel or short stories which feature the nightlord?

[Kidd]

Are there any novel or short stories which feature the nightlord?

The CGB's Nightlord (Ursa Major?) appears very briefly at the end of Path of Glory, as the DCMS renegades make their ill-fated attack on Alshain, going like "haha you thought the Leviathan was out of action and the planet undefended, psych!"

then anything with the Emerald Talon

[Wrangler]

Are there any novel or short stories which feature the nightlord?

There exactly four I know of:

• Test of Vengeance
• Flight of the Falcon
• Blood of the Isle
• A Rendering of Falcons

[I am Belch II]

I liked the nightlord Battleship. It was a good update to a warship for the clan, with all its flaws.

[jklantern]

So, I am not an expert on the naval game by ANY stretch of the imagination.  There are few ships where I remember what was distinct about them, there are several ships where I don't remember what they even look like.  Several ships I can't distinguish weapons load, just because I didn't get into the game for the naval setting.  I do love that Warships exist, and wish I was more into them.

That being said, the Nightlord is one of the ships I REALLY like.  Just BECAUSE it is the USS Eminent Domain.

[Sjhernan3060]

If a post reavings HW clan wanted to build a new galaxy or clan flagship would the nightlord be the first choice?

Can nightlords still be built? I know the ravens made them before...

Could  any of the other heavy hitters like the Texas or McKenna still be built new?

[Wrangler]

Depends on the faction. They need to be able to coordinate there resources if they can agree want build some a incredibly expenaive asset. Ghost Bears seem to be only 9ne with the zeal to build one. Though they opt go for built a upgraded Leviathan instead. Which seems to be essentially a upgrade of the Nightlord.

[Kidd]

Well lets look at the options. Clans build only the Fredasa, York, Conqueror, Nightlord or Leviathan. I'll assume the plans
and at least one slip are available one way or another.

They'll build these ships or upgraded variants of them in the best balance between numbers and cost - Leviathan being what it is, maybe it's out of reach, but there are tradeoffs between building say 2 Nightlords versus 4 Yorks etc

That or sink funds into an all new Clan warship class or two, preferably a Castrum-killer that can liven things up a little. I'm sure we'd all like that.

[Wrangler]

Realistically new design would make sense verse something enemies know and having something more functional that meets current day needs of a Warship.  Space superiority and Fire Support.  However, CGL I suspect isn't going make new designs for part of the game which isn't used.

Nightlord would make sense if you had resources to make it.  If you don't have alot stuff, you want make sure the capital size ship you have is tough and can survive.

[Colt Ward]

Well lets look at the options. Clans build only the Fredasa, York, Conqueror, Nightlord or Leviathan. I'll assume the plans
and at least one slip are available one way or another.

They'll build these ships or upgraded variants of them in the best balance between numbers and cost - Leviathan being what it is, maybe it's out of reach, but there are tradeoffs between building say 2 Nightlords versus 4 Yorks etc

That or sink funds into an all new Clan warship class or two, preferably a Castrum-killer that can liven things up a little. I'm sure we'd all like that.

Conquerors were rebuilds of Kimagures of which a few more were around as of the first two the Ravens refit, which means it might be a question if they could be new builds.  The difference between a York and a Conqueror for construction would be on a order of magnitude.  And unlike the Yorks, there would not be any current yards that made new build in Clan space nor would there be one to examine.

[Gaiiten]

Hmm, I think if a Clan decides to build a Nightlord, the clan will find the resources to do this.