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A Restoration 40 Years in the Making (Ogre)
« on: 20 May 2018, 17:26:35 »
Some of you will remember this poor beast.



I found it on eBay last December and managed to win it for about $35 plus shipping. It's an original Martian Metals Ogre Mk. V, released back when the game was still being published by MetaGaming, circa 1978. When it arrived, it looked even worse than in the photo. It had been painted with what appeared to be latex wall paint, it was badly dinged and dented, the tower was ready to snap, and the tracks had been glued on with some sort of horrible cheap epoxy. It was no wonder that I'd gotten it so cheap, despite its rarity and historical value.



It went directly into the acetone. What followed was literally days of soaking and gentle scrubbing with a toothbrush. I couldn't even tell if it was genuine...



...it is. I have to give a shout out to our own Paint it Pink and Steve Jackson (yes, THAT Steve Jackson) for their assistance in identifying this miniature. PiP shared her collection of images - many of which simply don't exist on the internet - and SJ took a picture of his own MM Mk. V. From them, I not only was able to authenticate this particular miniature, but also to see what the missing gun barrels should look like.



I finally got all the paint off...



...followed by the remaining tracks. I repaired the sensor tower by simply cutting the dome off, trimming away the damaged section, and reattaching the dome on top. I did a little reshaping with a file and glued the tracks back on, this time spacing them out further for a "bulldog" stance.



The main batteries were easy. I just used an extra set from a 2000 Steve Jackson Games sculpt. They're not exact matches to the original, but close enough.



The secondary batteries were trickier. I could've modified the miniature to use more spare parts, but I didn't really want to alter it any further. The original Martian Metals sculpt came with ridiculously thin gun barrels - sometimes broken right in the package - so I decided to duplicate them using brass rod. Each is made up of two lengths of rod of different diameters, one inside the other.



It took a while, but I eventually got them all done. I then gave the miniature a coat of Army Painter Desert Tan spray and set it aside to work on other projects.



I decided to get working on it again a few days ago. I added some swathes of Army Painter Leather Brown and washed the whole thing with Army Painter Strong Tone, then set it aside to dry. As you can see, I'd removed the secondary batteries.



I then started highlighting. For the tan sections, I did a heavy drybrush of just Army Painter Desert Tan, followed by a 50/50 mix of that and Army Painter white.



The brown areas also got a heavy drybrush of AP Leather Brown, followed by a mix of 50% that and 25% each while and Desert Tan. I also started adding the first detail color, AP Matt Black.



I decided to improve the secondary batteries before reattaching them. A little green stuff made credible "muzzles."



Here they are installed. Yes, they're a bit oversized and mismatched, but so were the ones on the original sculpt. I then went ahead and painted a lot more black on the piece, then finished up the details today.



...leading to the finished piece, seen here from the front...



...and the rear. Finally, this classic miniature has the paint job it deserves. No, I'm not going to win a Golden Demon sword or the equivalent with my techniques, but when you look at the before and after shot:



I think I'm allowed a touch of pride in the job I did here. This poor tank spent the past four decades neglected, and now it is ready to hit the table again. If you made it this far, thank you!
« Last Edit: 20 May 2018, 22:46:45 by ColBosch »
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Re: A Restoration 40 Years in the Making (Ogre)
« Reply #1 on: 20 May 2018, 20:15:45 »
That was some time and dedication.  Then topped off with a nice paint job.  That is a restoration to be proud of!  8)   And it was a pleasure to read/view your process.  Thank you for that extra detail.  :thumbsup:

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Re: A Restoration 40 Years in the Making (Ogre)
« Reply #2 on: 20 May 2018, 22:42:59 »
It took me 5 1/2 months from when I got it in my hands, but it was a lot of "work on it a while, then do something else, then come back." The initial paint and glue stripping took three days, then another week to repair the worst of the damage and make the secondary gun barrels. I then didn't do anything with it until last week, when I started to paint it. I lost half a week to a personal emergency, but call it four days of painting total. Part of what took me so long to get around to painting was making sure I was feeling really confident in my methods. I painted six other, newer Ogre cybertanks between the repair and painting stages, so I finally trusted my muscle memory to work around my shakes. The last thing I wanted to do was drop this beauty and wreck it - sometimes lead can crack!
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Re: A Restoration 40 Years in the Making (Ogre)
« Reply #3 on: 20 May 2018, 22:45:29 »
...I should note that the repair process involved a drill, a pin vise, a Stanley knife, a screwdriver, and a hammer. :D
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« Reply #4 on: 20 May 2018, 22:52:50 »
That is some impressive restoration work. I couldn't imagine what I would do if I saw that mess arrive in the mail. I probably would have pulled out some nasty solvents, but glad acetone did the trick.

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« Reply #5 on: 21 May 2018, 15:10:47 »
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« Reply #6 on: 21 May 2018, 17:34:09 »
That miniature certainly got a new lease on life! Beautiful work.

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« Reply #7 on: 21 May 2018, 19:15:12 »
In true Ogre fashion, I provide a 21 nuke salute to you!
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Re: A Restoration 40 Years in the Making (Ogre)
« Reply #8 on: 23 May 2018, 08:08:31 »
...I should note that the repair process involved a drill, a pin vise, a Stanley knife, a screwdriver, and a hammer. :D

What did you use the hammer for?
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« Reply #9 on: 23 May 2018, 08:57:10 »
What did you use the hammer for?

I used it to flatten out the "skirts" that the tracks glued to.
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Re: A Restoration 40 Years in the Making (Ogre)
« Reply #10 on: 23 May 2018, 11:22:03 »
I added one final detail, thanks to a suggestion on the Ogre Facebook group.



"Lazarus," indeed.
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« Reply #11 on: 23 May 2018, 13:25:07 »
Very nicely done! It makes me want to dig up and finally paint the Mk. III I've had sitting around for years...
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« Reply #12 on: 23 May 2018, 13:29:52 »
Very nicely done! It makes me want to dig up and finally paint the Mk. III I've had sitting around for years...

It's a good time for it. Ogre is seeing a bit of a rebirth in general lately.
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« Reply #13 on: 23 May 2018, 14:38:33 »
Bravo! A lovely restoration. Why isn't there a show for restoring old minis?

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« Reply #14 on: 23 May 2018, 15:15:29 »
Bravo! A lovely restoration. Why isn't there a show for restoring old minis?

Because we're not pretty enough for Hollywood. ;D
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« Reply #15 on: 23 May 2018, 19:01:00 »
Very nice work on a worthy project.  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #16 on: 24 May 2018, 15:54:30 »
Great transformation. Some of my favorite projects are the ones that bring derelict minis back to life.
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« Reply #17 on: 24 May 2018, 17:33:54 »
I should note that one person - not here, thankfully - took great offense to this entire project and told me, in no uncertain terms, how I had "ruined" this piece by restoring it. He was of the opinion that, once I got the old paint and glue off, if I couldn't perfectly replicate its original looks then I should've not touched it at all. ;D
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« Reply #18 on: 24 May 2018, 17:40:30 »
Awww, jealous much? 

I should note that one person - not here, thankfully - took great offense to this entire project and told me, in no uncertain terms, how I had "ruined" this piece by restoring it. He was of the opinion that, once I got the old paint and glue off, if I couldn't perfectly replicate its original looks then I should've not touched it at all. ;D

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« Reply #19 on: 24 May 2018, 18:56:58 »
I should note that one person - not here, thankfully - took great offense to this entire project and told me, in no uncertain terms, how I had "ruined" this piece by restoring it. He was of the opinion that, once I got the old paint and glue off, if I couldn't perfectly replicate its original looks then I should've not touched it at all. ;D

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« Reply #20 on: 24 May 2018, 19:36:32 »
As a wise man once said, "it's only new once."
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« Reply #21 on: 25 May 2018, 01:08:17 »
I should note that one person - not here, thankfully - took great offense to this entire project and told me, in no uncertain terms, how I had "ruined" this piece by restoring it. He was of the opinion that, once I got the old paint and glue off, if I couldn't perfectly replicate its original looks then I should've not touched it at all. ;D

going by the picture at the start of your first post.. you did that mini a huge favor by stripping it and giving it a proper paintjob.

have you looked into the plastic Ogre mini's sets? the first set SJGames kickstartered is still available for sale on their website, and it would give you two more Ogres (a Mk.III and a Mk.V) and a bunch of the conventional forces.

personally i'm hoping the Set 2 they kickstartered has some for sale eventually.. it changes the Ogre's involved to a Mk.IV (not sure what that one is.. i don't actually play) and a "paneuropean Fencer".. which honestly looks like a great mini for BT's Destrier..
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« Reply #22 on: 25 May 2018, 04:12:59 »
going by the picture at the start of your first post.. you did that mini a huge favor by stripping it and giving it a proper paintjob.

have you looked into the plastic Ogre mini's sets? the first set SJGames kickstartered is still available for sale on their website, and it would give you two more Ogres (a Mk.III and a Mk.V) and a bunch of the conventional forces.

personally i'm hoping the Set 2 they kickstartered has some for sale eventually.. it changes the Ogre's involved to a Mk.IV (not sure what that one is.. i don't actually play) and a "paneuropean Fencer".. which honestly looks like a great mini for BT's Destrier..

I was into the Set 2 Kickstarter for way too much money. Same with the Miniatures Rules campaign that just wrapped up. I've been connected to Ogre since before I was born. :D
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« Reply #23 on: 25 May 2018, 04:59:01 »
That's a fantastic restoration and paint job. 
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« Reply #24 on: 25 May 2018, 05:26:54 »
Beautifully done! :thumbsup:

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« Reply #25 on: 25 May 2018, 09:16:14 »
I was into the Set 2 Kickstarter for way too much money. Same with the Miniatures Rules campaign that just wrapped up. I've been connected to Ogre since before I was born. :D

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« Reply #26 on: 25 May 2018, 12:38:15 »
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